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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 02:19 PM
Very cool pic.,thanks for sharing....

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 02:25 PM
That would be cool if it was an Augusta, GA show, but from what I have read, it does sound more like it was one of the OH shows.

SWEET photo. Love the O6 the most.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 02:26 PM
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A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Compellingly speaking, yes.


I recall a college yearbook photo or two, from Marietta College in Marietta, Ohio, where Luther Allison jammed with the Bros.. That was 10/16/71, one of Duane's last shows. They played Pittsburgh the night before. It's possible that the photo could be from a show right around this timeframe perhaps.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 02:28 PM
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A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Compellingly speaking, yes.


I recall a college yearbook photo or two, from Marietta College in Marietta, Ohio, where Luther Allison jammed with the Bros.. That was 10/16/71, one of Duane's last shows. They played Pittsburgh the night before. It's possible that the photo could be from a show right around this timeframe perhaps.



Hmmm. Marietta is one hour south of New Concord on I-77. Hmmmm.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 02:37 PM
I love how everyone back then sat down on the floor at shows....

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 02:51 PM
Ohio was guess too. There's probably some shows that aren't in the live show database. I know of one that was in Huntington,WV back around 1980. I was at the Huntington show, but I never could find it on the database.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 03:44 PM
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The set list database says they played two shows in Dayton in February 1970, that's also off I-70...


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Those two shows here in Dayton were at Pappalaski's I believe.....could have hit Muskingham coming or going I 'spose. The 1971 Dayton appearrance--my first show--was here at Hara Arena on Sept. 18th, '71. The SUNY show was the next nite I believe....so they would have headed that direction potentially thru New Concorde but woulda been tuff to get a show in the middle seems to me. I'm trying to track down an old friend who went to Muskingham altho' it would have been in the late '70s....will advise.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:00 PM
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Ohio was guess too. There's probably some shows that aren't in the live show database. I know of one that was in Huntington,WV back around 1980. I was at the Huntington show, but I never could find it on the database.


If you can figure out pretty close to when it was, PM Rowland and ask him about it. He has access to info that he can't publish until someone asks about it. I don't know why. But you should check.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:02 PM
As I look at that picture...that doesn't seem a '71 shot.....certainly a late '71 anyway. At the Sept. '71 Dayton show....Dickey had his hair cut very short for one thing. It wouldn't have grown that long even in a month! Their 'garb' as such--and Duane's haircut--looks earlier than '71....just an opinion.

There are open dates in the database BEFORE the Feb. '70 Pappalaski's shows--4 to be exact and they come up from South Carolina....thus feasible for New Concorde. Also,perhaps more likely...they left Dayton with 3 open dates towards NYC and gigs at the Fillmore. Other Ohio options could have been around the Ludlow date(s) in early April of '70 and also in early May '70 when they hit the Northern part of the state. I sure tho't they played more than one 'stint' at the Ludlow/Cincy but only one go'round seems to be listed....that's a bit odd......

That latin on the logo above the stage to say essentially both Muskingham and New Concorde is pretty strong to consider another location.

[Edited on 10/6/2009 by DanaVClouser]

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:03 PM
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This is what Duane and these guys did. This is how they made known the new kind of music they created. There weren't that many clubs in those days, especially in the deep south. So much of the area was "dry." So Duane and his band took to the road, playing high school and college gyms, national guard armories, parks. He coulda' stayed in California, done things Liberty's way, coulda' stayed in the studio, helping make stars of others, laying back, getting regular checks. This is the path he chose. The band and the roadies made it happen. Nothing was given to them, there was no luck involved.


Thanks for posting that, Randy. Living around Macon in the early 70s, it was common knowledge that the original band played anywhere and everywhere they would let them. That's was long before any internet message boards, and everyone knew about them setting up in Central City Park on Sundays and playing for free.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:05 PM
Looks like Bhawk nailed it down.

The extra person in the picture appears to be sitting down, with his hands folded. I bet he's the student that set the gig up. He got the best seat in the house.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:08 PM
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A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Compellingly speaking, yes.


I recall a college yearbook photo or two, from Marietta College in Marietta, Ohio, where Luther Allison jammed with the Bros.. That was 10/16/71, one of Duane's last shows. They played Pittsburgh the night before. It's possible that the photo could be from a show right around this timeframe perhaps.


Wow! I would have LOVED to have seen that!

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:13 PM
Butch would know where this show was, he reportedly has never missed a single show in the 40 years! My God, that is a record in anyone's book.

Butch would know.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:17 PM
If anyone lives near Mansfield, Ohio, they have a copy of the 1970 Muskingum College yearbook at the Ohio Genealogical Society Library there. Too bad it isn't online.

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 04:24 PM
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Butch would know where this show was, he reportedly has never missed a single show in the 40 years! My God, that is a record in anyone's book.

Butch would know.


Or, we could ask Randy. He's quite the detective!

 

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  posted on 10/6/2009 at 08:34 PM
Hull Pottery is made in Ohio around Roseville. It was made there from the teens to the early twenties and may stll making it there.
 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 12:13 AM
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That would be cool if it was an Augusta, GA show, but from what I have read, it does sound more like it was one of the OH shows.



I agree. Ohio was big for the band, from the Ludlow Garage north.

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I know of one that was in Huntington,WV back around 1980. I was at the Huntington show, but I never could find it on the database.


I vaguely remember that gig in my old hometown. Where was it, Sky, in the old Fieldhouse across from Stewarts on 5th and 25th???? In 1980 I believe we made the bolt north to the infamous outdoor festival lineup Legend Valley gig near Columbus instead.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:01 AM
Check this out boys & girls.....From the Public Relations office at Muskingam University in Ohio....

Dana, you have eagle eyes there....that is indeed the seal for Muskingum
College (now Muskingum University, note that the spelling has no h). I will
forward this to some other folks on campus. Thanks for sending the photo.
That's venue is the John Glenn (yes, named for our alumnus, the astronaut)
Gymnasium. In the 1980s, a new gym was built.

I'll do some research to see if I can find anything in a yearbook or other
archival document.

Thanks.

Janice McCloud
Office of Public Relations
Muskingum University

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From: Brodana@aol.com [mailto:Brodana@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:33 PM
To: jtucker
Subject: Historical event at Muskingham U.

Please refer to the e-mail header for the date and time of this request.

IP Address of sending computer: 64.12.117.70

Referring URL:
http://www.muskingum.edu/home/source/emailform/emailform.html

Name: Dana V. Clouser
E-mail: Brodana@aol.com
Subject: Historical event at Muskingham U.

Text of Message: Greetings:

I have stumbled across an historic 'mystery' very likely involving
Muskingham University. I am a dedicated fan of the legendary band--Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame members--The Allman Brothers Band. On their
website--Allmanbrothersband.com--a photo has been posted of a band
performance in the early 70's. The location of the photo is in debate. In
the performance photo, at the back of the stage in an auditorium, a banner
appears very clearly with a circular logo that reads in latin "Collegii Mus
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ingumensis--Novae Concordiae--Sigillum". I enclose the link to this website
and the specific photo. (Copy/Paste)

http://allmanbrothers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread
&fid=126&tid=98670&page=1&orderdate=

Can you verify if this is Muskingham's logo and/or if the photo perhaps
clearly depicts a university location where concerts may have been held in
the early 70's? Most fans feel altho' possibly a 1969 photo...very likely
1970 or perhaps early '71.

In addition, are there any records--dates, advertisements, etc.,--in regards
to the possible performance that you could find and share?

Allman Brothers Band fans--both young and old--(I'm 54!!!) are a dedicated
bunch of people and we can get a bit obsessed with the history of our
favorite band! I'm sure your office is a very busy one...but if someone
could give this a 'look--see'....you might be surprised what it could do for
'public relations' with the fans of this great American band!

Thank you for you time!

Dana Clouser
Kettering, Ohio







 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:04 AM
When I saw original 6 I thought this was an NHL thread

 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:07 AM
Nice work there, Dana!

 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:39 AM
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I love how everyone back then sat down on the floor at shows....


was this common in the 70's shows??

Dickey's stance looks soooo like Duane (Betts) in this pic.

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:40 AM
As were wippets and wine bags and............
 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:41 AM
I had forgotten that John Glenn was from New Concorde....thus the Gym's name.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:46 AM
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was this common in the 70's shows??




It was at Cowtown Ballroom in Kansas City.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2009 at 08:48 AM
I realize this is just one show and an anomaly probably on the stage "space" but I find it amusing that Dickey is in the back.

I won't say most, but ALOT of bands, the bass player is routinely relegated to "the back," certainly not front and center.

This just goes to show:

A. what Berry meant to this band
B. what a selfless individual Dickey was, not clamoring for the limelight

Or

C. all of my stupid ideas are WAY off and they flipped a coin or something.

 

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