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posted on 5/26/2020 at 11:51 AM |
https://youtu.be/t3ducgxwWA0
This even has Eric Clapton and later Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker getting into the act.
Put together by a Joe fan tired of Joe being called a Gary want to be. Joe can stand toe to toe with ANYONE!!
Be warned. If you are like me, after this if you heard anymore Gibson Les Paul shredding today....you may jump off a bridge! ____________________
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blackey
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posted on 5/26/2020 at 07:25 PM |
Have you ever heard such shredding on Gibson Les Pauls in your life?
Joe may not be a Gary want to be and he is a real clean and fast player...but to me Gary was a couple of steps above Joe.
Those two clips with Gary playing in a trio with Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker. Was that a tour? If so I would have gone to that!! Maybe it didn't come to the U.S. All 3, Gary, Jack and Ginger, have passed over to the other side now.
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CanadianMule
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posted on 5/26/2020 at 11:07 PM |
No knock on Joe as he is a great player and one of the top out there today.
But there is absolutely no comparison. Gary wins after a single vibrato.
Besides music is not a Him vs Him thing - if someone likes Joe more - awesome.
But you are comparing two people who have had careers at different times. Also Gary sounded like Gary. Joe tends to try and sound like what he is shooting for and it is often very easy to pick out his influences or "borrowed" licks. When Joe solos - you can pick the sections apart and see who the lick comes from - usually one part Gary/One part Eric Johnson and one part Page with a touch of the jam band soloing thrown in.
Gary was a guy that others may try to imitate and play the licks. But they don't have the finger strength, dexterity, music theory, speed and most important - feel.
Joe is real good though but charges far too much for tickets. Especially when he puts out live DVDs constantly then it makes it easier to pass on expensive tickets. You make the cash now but you don't create the following that will be there in 30 years.
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blackey
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posted on 5/27/2020 at 11:01 AM |
Joe played my town last year Canadian Mule and my ticket was Eagles prices. But it was a smooth professional show. Reese was on keys and very good and Joe brought a truck load of guitars. Played several real pretty Les Pauls, a Gibson Explorer, A Fender Telecaster and a couple of nice Strats one of which had a very Eric Johnson tone and several acoustics.
I watched an old interview with Joe last night and he said when he was young he was heavily influenced by Gary Moore, Walter Trout and Eric Johnson and they taught him to let go and play the heck out of it when you solo.
I'm not sure Joe reminded me of Walter Trout but I could here Joe do several runs that reminded me of Gary Moore and a Strat solo that was indeed very Eric Johnson.
Yes Joe wears his influences on his sleeve but I also have to say Joe has a very rehearsed and professional show and his guitar playing is very clean and his amps and guitars are well oiled equipment.
But as you say the ticket prices are steep. Prices one likely would expect to pay to see someone much more famous. ____________________
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blackey
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posted on 5/27/2020 at 08:28 PM |
https://youtu.be/KzFtAX7CBQI
Joe Bonamassa or Eddie Van Halen couldn't play this fast! As you get into it, some of these runs are absolutely the fastest electric guitar playing I've seen from ANYBODY!!
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CanadianMule
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posted on 5/29/2020 at 12:50 AM |
Better quality video.
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kevdab
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posted on 5/29/2020 at 07:58 AM |
check this out.
Joe Bonamassa and Eric Gales
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d9eNyWFT64o ____________________
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posted on 5/29/2020 at 12:50 PM |
| to me the main difference is that Gary played with such attitude / anger at times... I think both are great... Warren used to play like that as well... 90's ABB or the first Mule CD... ____________________
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posted on 5/29/2020 at 12:53 PM |
also love the Bruce, Baker & Moore collaboration... sadly all three are now gone...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xxzzKDmOZ8 ____________________
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blackey
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posted on 5/29/2020 at 08:07 PM |
Thanks Redhouse1969. The Baker, Bruce, Moore lineup was extremely strong. I missed it somehow. Maybe they only played in Europe.
Warren is one of my all time favorite guitarists. I too bought the first Govt Mule CD. Mother Earth was my favorite for the first few months of playing it. And Warren was very heavy back then. Dickey was too in the early 90's.
I saw Gary Moore once in the 1980's and Gary was a notch or two stronger than Warren. But that is the case with almost all great guitarist. I use to think Eddie Van Halen and later I saw Steve Via in David Lee Roth's band and thought technically and shredding and whammy bar gone wild, those two couldn't be touched if you like that style. Actually I can't listen to it every day but can Dickey and Duane or Dickey and Warren. But when I saw Gary Moore, he was still in his heavy metal phase and using a red Strat with a whammy bar and I was stunned. Eddie Van Halen use to brag in a couple of interviews the 1970's about how he could blow Jimmy Page off the stage. I went to see Gary with a friend who was into heavy metal and was told Gary could kick butt and man he did. Eddie Van Halen trying to blow Gary Moore off the stage back then would be akin to Eddie Van Halen trying to knock down the Enoire State Building with a baseball bat.
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blackey
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posted on 5/29/2020 at 08:13 PM |
| Yeah kevdab. Joe and Eric Gales are throwing it down. Both are fine players and play intensely. ____________________
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posted on 6/1/2020 at 04:24 PM |
I've been listening to Joe's British Blues Explosion: Live album over the last couple days and have been enjoying it. If I never got into the music Warren and Derek make I'd probably like Joe a lot more.
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blackey
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posted on 6/1/2020 at 07:47 PM |
What music Derek and Warren make? You mean TTB and Govt Mule?
I think the original video on this thread shows Gary Moore as a technical wizard and shredding has an edge on Joe and Joe has an edge on Derek and Warren shredding. But I can't listen to the high octane guitar players everyday. Can listen to Duane and Dickey play Blue Sky every damn day and have since Eat A Peach came out. ____________________
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CanadianMule
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posted on 6/2/2020 at 10:01 PM |
Moments like this make Joe and every other guitarist put theirs down and listen.
Celebration of the Strat - Some poor bastard had to follow this.
Red House
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhmE8gvCsOI
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blackey
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posted on 6/3/2020 at 11:30 AM |
Wow CanadianMule!!!
Gary Moore died 9 years ago at age 58 of excessive drinking (had lethal blood alcohol level ) while on vacation in Spain.
With Gary gone and Eddie Van Halen sick, there are not many left playing electric guitar on that level. My favorite players can't play lead on Gary's level and I usually don't listen to petal to the metal everyday but I do listen to my favorites. Well Gary is kinda a favorite.
Who is still playing at that level? Steve Vai? Joe Satriani? Joe Bonamassa is very close but not on the level of Gary Moore and Eddie Van Halen. That is hard to say because Bonamassa is so close.
Funny thing about Gary Moore...that Billboard top 100 guitar players list a few years ago, with Hendrix 1st, Duane Allman 2nd and Warren, Derek, Dickey and other favorites of mine such as Clapton and the Kings, NONE of them are on Gary Moore's level when you compare technical wizardry and shredding. Playing lightening fast and CLEAN. Playing a run with technical complexity and NO clams. Gary was perhaps only equaled by Eddie Van Halen and Gary Moore DIDN'T MAKE THE LIST!!! Not 80 or 90 or last place...number 100!! That is amazing.
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posted on 6/3/2020 at 12:29 PM |
https://youtu.be/X_YxagjewZ8
OUTSTANDING playing on a big fat tone Les Paul.
It gets intense half way in and some incredible bends and NO clams that I could detect. ____________________
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posted on 6/3/2020 at 03:28 PM |
quote:
. . .absolutely the fastest electric guitar playing I've seen from ANYBODY!!
Then you have never seen Nirvana Bista:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa7sl91w250
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blackey
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posted on 6/3/2020 at 04:04 PM |
BrerRabbit that is fast! With all due respect to the young man, could he play it in the context of a song? I imagine he could.
https://youtu.be/mncLJD1MrHE
I offer this by Gary Moore. There may be a couple of places where Gary is playing that fast. Oh what caught my attention is Gary Moore right at the beginning doing that punch in right hand lick Dickey Betts did a lot. The only other guitar player I've seen do that lick is Warren Haynes on one of his solo shows and first solo album. I imagine it was Warren tipping his hat to Dickey.
[Edited on 6/3/2020 by blackey]
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posted on 6/4/2020 at 07:38 AM |
JETHRO TULL "Locomotive Breath" feat. Joe Bonamassa
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posted on 6/5/2020 at 04:51 PM |
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What music Derek and Warren make? You mean TTB and Govt Mule?
I think the original video on this thread shows Gary Moore as a technical wizard and shredding has an edge on Joe and Joe has an edge on Derek and Warren shredding. But I can't listen to the high octane guitar players everyday. Can listen to Duane and Dickey play Blue Sky every damn day and have since Eat A Peach came out.
Also Derek Trucks Band and Warren solo projects. The point I was trying to make is Joe is a good guitarist but listening to him has not really expanded my listening like Derek and Warren have.
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posted on 6/5/2020 at 05:16 PM |
Got it IPowrie. I thought that is what you meant. Most of the music they played in the ABB was covers or written by Gregg Allman and Dickey Betts. But they did bring some new songs to the ABB.
What about the Gary Moore Joe Bonamassa comparison on the thread header. To me Gary Moore edges out Joe Bonamassa and almost every other guitarist I've heard when you are looking at technical wizardry and shredding. Perhaps Eddie Van Halen and Steve Vai would equal Gary Moore. ____________________
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posted on 6/5/2020 at 10:30 PM |
You always talk as if it is a competition and somehow there is an imaginary score.
Music is about how it makes you feel. Some people like BB King playing one note. Some people like Steve Vai and his whammy tricks, some love Albert Lee and his country licks, etc
If you prefer someone then that doesn't make them "better".
There is no scoreboard and never will be. Gary can bury Van Halen and his tapping because his music theory and use of various scales etc buries EVH. EVH hardly evolved guitar wise after the 1st album. Everything after pretty much is repetition of that album. Not even close soloing but EVH can write a Hit song. Hit songs were not Gary's strength. Who is better? Depends if you want solos or songs and what you prefer.
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blackey
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posted on 6/6/2020 at 05:52 AM |
Actually I agree with you CanadianMule. There is no better or worse. It's all taste. How does a musician or singer move you. Do you enjoy it. Does it make you happy.
The video header on this theme was spliced together as a comparison between two very gifted guitarists, Joe Bonamassa and Gary Moore. Probably because Joe has often mentioned Gary as one of his great influences. Indeed Joe seems to wear his Gary Moore influence on his sleeve as I notice Gary in Joe's style. When putting the two men side by side, the technical wizardry, speed, shredding and doing it clean ( without clams) to me goes to Gary. And you yourself state that Gary Moore could bury Eddie Van Halen.
I apologise if I have stepped on anyone's toes or seemed to have insulted someone's favorite player. ____________________
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posted on 6/6/2020 at 11:31 PM |
No toes or anything and have fun. Don't change because of me. It is just a constant theme for you that someone has to be "better" or win some imaginary competition.
Gary covered a lot more genres than EVH. Some may love the tapping more which is cool. From a music theory standpoint, EVH covered much less as he just taps away at the same scales. Also he had most of the first few albums written before the 1st was released which also accounts for similar solos and style.
As for the Rolling Stone omission, that shows how bad the list was. Joan Jett is clearly better than Gary. ____________________
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posted on 6/7/2020 at 07:15 AM |
Joe is damn good and actually grew up in Utica,Ny not far from where I was from. But I have never been a huge fan of him.
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