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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 09:42 AM
50th Anniversary retrospective, now we see why the music biz is pushing a show - to promote an album (no to sound jaded, it probably would have happened but maybe without such a huge push).

Nothing really of interest for most of us fans who already have all of these songs in other formats EXCEPT "Mountain Jam" from Watkins Glen! Just give us the whole show!

Also nice nuggets - "I'm Not Crying" from the Jack Pearson years and nice that they included a Jimmy Herring-era track.

https://music.apple.com/us/album/1491246992?app=itunes&cId=none&ign -itscg=30440&ign-itsct=catchall_p3&ign-mpt=uo%3D4&lId=1802210&a mp;sr=3&src=Linkfire

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 10:27 AM
A post-Dickey "Blue Sky"? Why?
 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 10:49 AM
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A post-Dickey "Blue Sky"? Why?



would you know if there was a guest on that version? the regular studio version is also on the set.


I am hype for this release. can anyone name the live releases the live tracks are from?

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 10:54 AM
10 LP's or 5 CDs

http://allmanbrothersband.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file =article&sid=1034&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Amazon has the CD set at $60 and the LP set at $500.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 11:09 AM
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A post-Dickey "Blue Sky"? Why?

Yeah, that's a curious choice. I really like those "Blue Sky" from that period, but you'd expect something that represents Warren & Derek era like "44 Blues" or something. Also, missed opportunity for a 1999 Dicky & Derek track that might wipe way the stink of the rougher 2000 Beacon shows.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 12:14 PM
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A post-Dickey "Blue Sky"? Why?

Yeah, that's a curious choice. I really like those "Blue Sky" from that period, but you'd expect something that represents Warren & Derek era like "44 Blues" or something. Also, missed opportunity for a 1999 Dicky & Derek track that might wipe way the stink of the rougher 2000 Beacon shows.


is the last track on disc 4 after dickey left?

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 12:18 PM
Like most on here - I've got much of this stuff already - but will enjoy getting the previously unreleased material. The bigger takeaway here for me is that there is evidently release worthy quality recordings of the Jack Pearson year, the Jimmy Herring year, and the 2005 Beacon Run. I am very, very thirsty for some full show releases of all of those things.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 12:39 PM
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A post-Dickey "Blue Sky"? Why?

Yeah, that's a curious choice. I really like those "Blue Sky" from that period, but you'd expect something that represents Warren & Derek era like "44 Blues" or something. Also, missed opportunity for a 1999 Dicky & Derek track that might wipe way the stink of the rougher 2000 Beacon shows.

It's one of their biggest songs and casual fans have probably never heard Gregg sing it. That's going to be more interesting to some people than a cover of a blues classic. He and the band sounded great at that time, too. Looking at the track list, the Black Hearted Woman from 3/26/09 is absolutely outstanding. They also could have included the beautiful Little Martha > Blue Sky > Little Martha jam from that run.

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 12:43 PM
From what I'm reading the first track is a 1969 rehearsal, never before released, Trouble No More. And the last track is Trouble No More at the Beacon 2014..last song the band played or will ever play as it pointed out the March MSG show is not billed as The Allman Brothers Band but The Brothers. But what the heck. It's The Rolling Stones or The Stones. Okay maybe the official name is The Stones if they played after Mick Jagger retired. I get the difference. The Dead is not OFFICIALLY The Grateful Dead.

Berry Oakley was singing Trouble No More when they were playing as an unnamed band at Second Coming shows. Be neat if it's one of those and Reese would be on keys. Rest of band was Duane, Dickey, Butch and Jaimoe.

The band and Dickey were hot in 1997 when Jack first joined. Hot in 1999 when Derek first joined Dickey and hot in 2000 when Jimmy was subbing for Dickey. A good live show from those 3 lineups would interest me .

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 12:47 PM
That 2005 was first year they did blue sky with that line up except once in 10-04 it’s pretty refreshing they moved it back to the key of E too:::::: I like it

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 01:00 PM
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From what I'm reading the first track is a 1969 rehearsal, never before released, Trouble No More.

Not a rehearsal, a demo. It's faster than the ABB album version and has some other minor differences arrangement-wise. You can listen here: You can hear it here: https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/trouble-no-more-box-set-marks-allman-br others-bands-50th-anniversary/

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That 2005 was first year they did blue sky with that line up except once in 10-04 it’s pretty refreshing they moved it back to the key of E too:::::: I like it

They did it a handful of times in late September and October that year. They started playing it again because they agreed to do a live recreation of the album for Sirius XM, which is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQXYl7YLGtA

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 01:17 PM
Here's the CD track list with 7 unreleased tracks noted:

5CD/DIGITAL TRACK LIST
The Capricorn Years 1969 – 1979 Part I / CD1
1 Trouble No More (Demo)*
2 Don’t Want You No More
3 It’ Not My Cross To Bear
4 Dreams
5 Whipping Post
6 I’m Gonna Move To The Outskirts Of Town (Live at Ludlow Garage)
7 Midnight Rider
8 Revival
9 Don’t Keep Me Wonderin’
10 Hoochie Coochie Man
11 Please Call Home
12 Statesboro Blues (Live at Fillmore East)
13 Stormy Monday (Live at Fillmore East)
14 In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (Live at Fillmore East)

The Capricorn Years 1969 – 1979 Part II / CD2
1 One Way Out (Live at Fillmore East)
2 You Don’t Love Me / Soul Serenade (Live at A&R Studios)
3 Hot ‘Lanta (Live at A&R Studios)
4 Stand Back
5 Melissa
6 Blue Sky
7 Ain’t Wastin’ Time No More (Live at Mar y Sol)
8 Wasted Words
9 Ramblin’ Man
10 Southbound
11 Jessica
12 Early Morning Blues (Outtake)

The Capricorn Years 1969 – 1979 Part III / The Arista Years 1980 – 1981 / CD3
1 Come And Go Blues (Live at Watkins Glen)
2 Mountain Jam (Live at Watkins Glen)*
3 Can’t Lose What You Never Had
4 Win, Lose Or Draw
5 High Falls
6 Crazy Love
7 Can’t Take It With You
8 Pegasus
9 Just Ain’t Easy (Live at Merriweather Post Pavilion)
10 Hell & High Water
11 Angeline
12 Leavin’
13 Never Knew How Much (I Needed You)

The Epic Years 1990 – 2000 / CD4
1 Good Clean Fun
2 Seven Turns
3 Gambler’s Roll
4 End Of The Line
5 Nobody Knows
6 Low Down Dirty Mean (Live at the Beacon Theatre)
7 Come On Into My Kitchen (Live at Radio & Records Convention)
8 Sailin’ ‘Cross The Devil’s Sea
9 Back Where It All Begins
10 Soulshine
11 No One To Run With
12 I’m Not Crying (Live at the Beacon Theatre)*

The Peach Years 2000 – 2014 / CD5
1 Loan Me A Dime (Live at World Music Theatre)*
2 Desdemona (Live at the Beacon Theatre)*
3 High Cost Of Low Living
4 Old Before My Time
5 Blue Sky (Live at the Beacon Theatre)*
6 Little Martha (Live at the Beacon Theatre)*
7 Black Hearted Woman (Live at the Beacon Theatre)
8 The Sky Is Crying (Live at the Beacon Theatre)
9 “Farewell” speeches (Live at the Beacon Theatre)
10 Trouble No More (Live at the Beacon Theatre)

* Previously unreleased

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 01:31 PM
My first reaction: I'm actually underwhelmed. Only 7 previously unreleased tracks? Back in 1989 the "Dreams" boxset was a real treasure trove of unreleased ABB and solo recordings. The CD format was only launched a few years earlier and together with all the unreleased material the reason for it's critically aclaimed success. I guess most of the unreleased live songs of this new boxset have already been in trade circles for many years (or even from Instant Live / Munchmix releases?). In the last few years most of the ABB cds and all the lps have been re-released. The vinyl separate and as part of the massive Peach crate. Recently yet another re-release of 5 albums on coloured vinyl. Also plenty of other deluxe / live releases. I also think the vinyl boxset is extremely overpriced. Maybe that price will come down, but 50 bucks for each slab of vinyl? Dedicated / hardcore fans already spent lot's of money "upgrading" their peachy collection in recent years and probably are reluctant on duplicating 90% of this content once again and "new fans" probably think a 5CD box or a 500 bucks 10LP box is too extensive and /or expensive.

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 04:56 PM
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That 2005 was first year they did blue sky with that line up except once in 10-04 it’s pretty refreshing they moved it back to the key of E too:::::: I like it



Marley, correct me if I'm wrong because I know you were there too but I think the first time they did Blue Sky was 9/25/04 at the Fox in Atlanta. It was the Saturday night show, the second of three and I recall Gregg saying something along the lines of "We get a lot of requests for this one". The place went nuts and I thought Gregg pulled it off very well.

Get the Fox Box if you don't have it. I think it costs more now than what I paid for the Instant Lives all three nights.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 05:11 PM
And regarding the lack of new unreleased material, I am with some of you. Vinyl? That would be really cool but I'm not paying $500 for it. So I guess I'll pay 60 bucks for the seven new songs. Not to sound like a grumpy old man but if this stuff exists, it would be nice if it was released in a better fashion rather than some things being put out in fits and starts.

Remember when Mycology was released and one unreleased song was on it? I think Every Hungry Woman.

As was mentioned, the Dreams Box Set is so amazing. They did a great job with that.



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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 05:59 PM
I agree with Lee, Dreams box was very well done.

I'll probably pass on this, $60 for seven "new" songs doesn't make it worthwhile for me.

As for no Derek/Dickey from 99, I've listened many times to that show from Syracuse, first ABB show for two of my kids and Lucinda Williams was an amazing opener.

The guitar interplay wasn't very good at that point and Dickey's setlist just sucked.


 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 07:23 PM
Just read the post Dickey Blue Sky has Gregg singing and Chuck Leavell playing.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 08:36 PM
Then I believe that Blue Sky is from 3/21/05 and it is really good.

That 3/21/05 is one of my all-time favorite Allman Brothers shows of any era of the band. The extended the original Beacon run by two shows. 3/21 and 3/22, the latter being a Big House benefit show. Chuck & others had shown up a day early and Chuck got a lot of stage time and it was always a treat when he played with the final version of the ABB.

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 08:44 PM
I might have considered this set on vinyl but $500 for a 10LP set? They have to be kidding. I purchased the recent Jimi Hendrix Band of Gypsys Fillmore LP box set for 1/5 that price and that was for Holy Grail unreleased Hendrix.

Who is setting these absurd prices and what is so special about the vinyl they think it is worth that cost?

 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 08:48 PM
Perhaps this reveals that the cupboard of release quality archives is much barer than hoped. I anticipate this will delay future releases of more unfamiliar material. Still waiting on 5/2/70 (assuming a decent source exists) and 3/20/98.
 
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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 11:07 PM
Never thought I'd use the phrase 'cash grab,' but his might be the exception...
 

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  posted on 1/14/2020 at 11:56 PM
Like that TNMore - & like it even more that they end the box set with it commensurate to the band’s career - Mr. Allman sings it w/love at the 2009 Gilford show - masterful - joyous, mischievous, anything like that

hearing a good version of the WtknsGln Mtn Jam will be real nice - have heard only crummy sounding boots before & assume this will be the same source as C&GBlues, from WTWCTODGas -

Cool that they’ve titled their three box sets after three of their all time greatest songs - Dreams, One Way Out, now Trouble Mo More

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  posted on 1/15/2020 at 01:03 AM
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Cool that they’ve titled their three box sets after three of their all time greatest songs - Dreams, One Way Out, now Trouble Mo More




Which Allman Brothers' box is One Way Out?

 

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  posted on 1/15/2020 at 06:27 AM
My bad, it’s Stand Back, not One Way Out
One Way Out is the name of their Beacon release
Stand Back: The Anthology is the name of their 2 CD box set from 2004
So 15-year intervals, basically, between the three box-set releases

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  posted on 1/15/2020 at 06:58 AM
Ok, I was thinking how did I miss out on a box set?
 
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