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  posted on 3/16/2016 at 02:18 PM
http://www.nhregister.com/general-news/20160316/obama-nominates-federal-app eals-court-judge-merrick-garland-to-supreme-court
 
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  posted on 3/16/2016 at 02:21 PM
Will be interesting to see how it plays out.


"Considered a moderate, Garland is widely respected in the Washington legal community and was also a finalist for the first two Supreme Court vacancies Obama filled.

Seven sitting Republican senators voted to confirm Garland in 1997: Dan Coats of Indiana, Thad Cochran of Mississippi, Susan Collins of Maine, Orrin Hatch of Utah, James M. Inhofe of Oklahoma, John McCain of Arizona and Pat Roberts of Kansas."

 

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Predictably, McConnell wasted no time in flatly rejecting out of hand Obama's nominee and reiterating his stand that the Senate should not even take up the issue, a handful of GOP Senators have broken with that position and will at least meet with him, and I'm proud (though not surprised) to see Maine's Susan Collins among them (confirming why I've voted for her each time she has run).

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These Are The Senate GOPers Willing To Meet With Obama's SCOTUS Pick

Despite Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) flat-out rejecting Obama's Supreme Court nominee, a number of Republican senators said Wednesday that they would meet with Judge Merrick Garland.

Brian Deese, a senior advisor to the President who led the White House's SCOTUS process, highlighted some Republicans' softening their earlier hard-line remarks in a call with reporters.

"I am old enough to remember a few weeks ago when Republicans said uniformly they wouldn't even meet with our nominee," Deese said. "And just in the past hour since the President announced him in the Rose Garden, we've seen more than a handful of Republicans announce that they were willing to meet with our nominee."

Here's a running list of the GOP senators who have said they plan to meet with Garland....

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH)

 

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  posted on 3/16/2016 at 03:53 PM
"The next president may also nominate someone very different. Either way our view is this: give the people a voice in filling this vacancy.”"

The ever bloating Presidential election season distracts some of the public, and apparently some of the Senate, that there is currently a sitting President who has nearly a whole quarter of his term remaining. The people have spoken. I know a lot of this is posturing, can't look weak, but it's not like they are going to hold the Supreme Court to 8 judges for a whole year (it's happened before, but not in a few decades).

[Edited on 3/16/2016 by porkchopbob]

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If the Republicans don't approve this well qualified, older, moderate, I think they will regret it big time. If Clinton or Sanders win, they most certainly will appoint a younger, more liberal justice. Plus, more than likely the GOP will be losing control of the Senate in November. I expect the GOP to be racing to approve him in December during the lame duck session.
 

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Seems like a somewhat middle of the road pick. One thing I heard today is that if Hillary or Bernie wins the election, then the obstructionist GOP Senate will move forward with Garland in November. Don't know if that is GOP Plan B or not.

If Hillary or Bernie wins, and based upon this game Mitch M. is playing, I'd prefer Obama withdraw his nominee in November, and let the incoming president pick preferably a more liberal judge.

 

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Seems like a somewhat middle of the road pick. One thing I heard today is that if Hillary or Bernie wins the election, then the obstructionist GOP Senate will move forward with Garland in November. Don't know if that is GOP Plan B or not.

If Hillary or Bernie wins, and based upon this game Mitch M. is playing, I'd prefer Obama withdraw his nominee in November, and let the incoming president pick preferably a more liberal judge.


Possibly even Obama himself.

 

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I watched Obama announce and introduce the new nominee. The guy seems totally experienced, qualified, compassionate with a strong sense of wanting to do the right thing and make a difference. Obama highlighted things about Merrick Garland that were quite impressive like he gave up a lucrative partnership position to take a fifty per cent salary cut to work as a prosecutor in Washington, DC before moving up the ranks there. He was also involved in the Oklahoma City bombing decisions. The guy seemed very honest, thankful and Obama said "I’ve selected a nominee who is widely recognized not only as one of America’s sharpest legal minds, but someone who brings to his work a spirit of decency, modesty, integrity, even-handedness, and excellence".
That's quite a recommendation.


http://wisconsingazette.com/2016/03/16/transcript-obamas-nomination-of-garl and/

https://twitter.com/SCOTUSnom


I think the dissidents in the Senate need to at least meet the man, evaluate him honestly and put aside the playground politics. If they want to reject him or refuse to nominate him, have a legitamite reason, not 'oh well we won't even consider anyone that Obama sent, because we don't like the messenger'. They are acting like a bunch of bullies on the playground and that does not represent the American people.

 

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Seems like a somewhat middle of the road pick. One thing I heard today is that if Hillary or Bernie wins the election, then the obstructionist GOP Senate will move forward with Garland in November. Don't know if that is GOP Plan B or not.

If Hillary or Bernie wins, and based upon this game Mitch M. is playing, I'd prefer Obama withdraw his nominee in November, and let the incoming president pick preferably a more liberal judge.


Possibly even Obama himself.

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Do you mean like the games The democrats played when they struck down Robert Bork, one of the most qualified nominees in history , for purely ideological reasons?

 

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here is what Orrin Hatch said to Jake Tapper today.......

JAKE TAPPER (HOST): Senator, I want to read you back something you told Newsmax on Friday, quote: "Obama could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man. He probably won't do that because this appointment is about the election. So I'm pretty sure he'll name someone the liberal Democratic base wants." So theoretically you must be thrilled President Obama followed your suggestion.

SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R-UT) Well, you know, it isn't a question of who he's appointed, it's a question of whether you should bring that up during this caustic, toxic presidential election process. It's something that really hasn't been done before, except in the case of in recent years, in the last 75 years, except in the case of Justice Kennedy, who after a long ordeal of Democrats smearing Bork and then going right down the line, everybody was happy to get that over with.

[...]

TAPPER: Senator, in 2010 you actually specifically addressed the possibility that President Obama would nominate Judge Garland. You said there was no question he would win confirmation with bipartisan support.

HATCH: Well, and he did. As a matter of fact, I led that fight for him. You know, he's a fine man. I have no problem with liking, you know, the judge. I mean he's a good judge. Now, I haven't looked at his opinions for 19 years, and we're not talking about a Circuit Court of Appeals judgeship. We're talking about the highest court in the land, the court of final decision making where you -- it's the court of final appeal in this country. So it's a much more serious thing, and I can quote you Democrat after Democrat who when Republicans were in control said you can't do this.

TAPPER: Right.

HATCH: You know, so now that the ox is gored, I mean they of course would like to just be able to run right over you, and the Republicans aren't going to let them do that.
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so let me get this straight.

in 2010 Hatch said about Judge Garland, there was no question he would win confirmation with bipartisan support.

on 3/11/16 Hatch said "Obama could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man."

on 3/16/16 Hatch said " I haven't looked at his opinions for 19 years, and we're not talking about a Circuit Court of Appeals judgeship. We're talking about the highest court in the land, the court of final decision making where you -- it's the court of final appeal in this country."

if Hatch hasn't payed attention to Judge Garland's decisions for almost 20 years how does he even have an opinion one way or the other?

 

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here is what Orrin Hatch said to Jake Tapper today.......

JAKE TAPPER (HOST): Senator, I want to read you back something you told Newsmax on Friday, quote: "Obama could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man. He probably won't do that because this appointment is about the election. So I'm pretty sure he'll name someone the liberal Democratic base wants." So theoretically you must be thrilled President Obama followed your suggestion.

SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R-UT) Well, you know, it isn't a question of who he's appointed, it's a question of whether you should bring that up during this caustic, toxic presidential election process. It's something that really hasn't been done before, except in the case of in recent years, in the last 75 years, except in the case of Justice Kennedy, who after a long ordeal of Democrats smearing Bork and then going right down the line, everybody was happy to get that over with.

[...]

TAPPER: Senator, in 2010 you actually specifically addressed the possibility that President Obama would nominate Judge Garland. You said there was no question he would win confirmation with bipartisan support.

HATCH: Well, and he did. As a matter of fact, I led that fight for him. You know, he's a fine man. I have no problem with liking, you know, the judge. I mean he's a good judge. Now, I haven't looked at his opinions for 19 years, and we're not talking about a Circuit Court of Appeals judgeship. We're talking about the highest court in the land, the court of final decision making where you -- it's the court of final appeal in this country. So it's a much more serious thing, and I can quote you Democrat after Democrat who when Republicans were in control said you can't do this.

TAPPER: Right.

HATCH: You know, so now that the ox is gored, I mean they of course would like to just be able to run right over you, and the Republicans aren't going to let them do that.
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so let me get this straight.

in 2010 Hatch said about Judge Garland, there was no question he would win confirmation with bipartisan support.

on 3/11/16 Hatch said "Obama could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man."

on 3/16/16 Hatch said " I haven't looked at his opinions for 19 years, and we're not talking about a Circuit Court of Appeals judgeship. We're talking about the highest court in the land, the court of final decision making where you -- it's the court of final appeal in this country."

if Hatch hasn't payed attention to Judge Garland's decisions for almost 20 years how does he even have an opinion one way or the other?


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here is what Orrin Hatch said to Jake Tapper today.......

JAKE TAPPER (HOST): Senator, I want to read you back something you told Newsmax on Friday, quote: "Obama could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man. He probably won't do that because this appointment is about the election. So I'm pretty sure he'll name someone the liberal Democratic base wants." So theoretically you must be thrilled President Obama followed your suggestion.

SEN. ORRIN HATCH (R-UT) Well, you know, it isn't a question of who he's appointed, it's a question of whether you should bring that up during this caustic, toxic presidential election process. It's something that really hasn't been done before, except in the case of in recent years, in the last 75 years, except in the case of Justice Kennedy, who after a long ordeal of Democrats smearing Bork and then going right down the line, everybody was happy to get that over with.

[...]

TAPPER: Senator, in 2010 you actually specifically addressed the possibility that President Obama would nominate Judge Garland. You said there was no question he would win confirmation with bipartisan support.

HATCH: Well, and he did. As a matter of fact, I led that fight for him. You know, he's a fine man. I have no problem with liking, you know, the judge. I mean he's a good judge. Now, I haven't looked at his opinions for 19 years, and we're not talking about a Circuit Court of Appeals judgeship. We're talking about the highest court in the land, the court of final decision making where you -- it's the court of final appeal in this country. So it's a much more serious thing, and I can quote you Democrat after Democrat who when Republicans were in control said you can't do this.

TAPPER: Right.

HATCH: You know, so now that the ox is gored, I mean they of course would like to just be able to run right over you, and the Republicans aren't going to let them do that.
____________________________________________________________

so let me get this straight.

in 2010 Hatch said about Judge Garland, there was no question he would win confirmation with bipartisan support.

on 3/11/16 Hatch said "Obama could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man."

on 3/16/16 Hatch said " I haven't looked at his opinions for 19 years, and we're not talking about a Circuit Court of Appeals judgeship. We're talking about the highest court in the land, the court of final decision making where you -- it's the court of final appeal in this country."

if Hatch hasn't payed attention to Judge Garland's decisions for almost 20 years how does he even have an opinion one way or the other?


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Democrats are worried about record conservative turnout in nov on this issue alone, once all the establishment crybabies get on board the trump train.

 

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Predictably, McConnell wasted no time in flatly rejecting out of hand Obama's nominee and reiterating his stand that the Senate should not even take up the issue, a handful of GOP Senators have broken with that position and will at least meet with him, and I'm proud (though not surprised) to see Maine's Susan Collins among them (confirming why I've voted for her each time she has run).

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/republicans-scotus-nom-flake-inhofe-k irk-ayotte

These Are The Senate GOPers Willing To Meet With Obama's SCOTUS Pick

Despite Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) flat-out rejecting Obama's Supreme Court nominee, a number of Republican senators said Wednesday that they would meet with Judge Merrick Garland.

Brian Deese, a senior advisor to the President who led the White House's SCOTUS process, highlighted some Republicans' softening their earlier hard-line remarks in a call with reporters.

"I am old enough to remember a few weeks ago when Republicans said uniformly they wouldn't even meet with our nominee," Deese said. "And just in the past hour since the President announced him in the Rose Garden, we've seen more than a handful of Republicans announce that they were willing to meet with our nominee."

Here's a running list of the GOP senators who have said they plan to meet with Garland....

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH)


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Only one on your list is a member of The Senate Judiciary Committee so the rest do not matter.

These are the actual members that matter:

• Chuck Grassley, Iowa, Chair
• Orrin Hatch, Utah
• Jeff Sessions, Alabama
• Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
• John Cornyn, Texas
• Mike Lee, Utah
• Ted Cruz, Texas
• Jeff Flake, Arizona
• David Vitter, Louisiana
• David Perdue, Georgia
• Thom Tillis, North Carolina

Garland will not be confirmed.

Next

 

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Predictably, McConnell wasted no time in flatly rejecting out of hand Obama's nominee and reiterating his stand that the Senate should not even take up the issue, a handful of GOP Senators have broken with that position and will at least meet with him, and I'm proud (though not surprised) to see Maine's Susan Collins among them (confirming why I've voted for her each time she has run).

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/republicans-scotus-nom-flake-inhofe-k irk-ayotte

These Are The Senate GOPers Willing To Meet With Obama's SCOTUS Pick

Despite Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) flat-out rejecting Obama's Supreme Court nominee, a number of Republican senators said Wednesday that they would meet with Judge Merrick Garland.

Brian Deese, a senior advisor to the President who led the White House's SCOTUS process, highlighted some Republicans' softening their earlier hard-line remarks in a call with reporters.

"I am old enough to remember a few weeks ago when Republicans said uniformly they wouldn't even meet with our nominee," Deese said. "And just in the past hour since the President announced him in the Rose Garden, we've seen more than a handful of Republicans announce that they were willing to meet with our nominee."

Here's a running list of the GOP senators who have said they plan to meet with Garland....

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH)


_________________________________________________________________________

Only one on your list is a member of The Senate Judiciary Committee so the rest do not matter.

These are the actual members that matter:

• Chuck Grassley, Iowa, Chair
• Orrin Hatch, Utah
• Jeff Sessions, Alabama
• Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
• John Cornyn, Texas
• Mike Lee, Utah
• Ted Cruz, Texas
• Jeff Flake, Arizona
• David Vitter, Louisiana
• David Perdue, Georgia
• Thom Tillis, North Carolina

Garland will not be confirmed.

Next



LOL yea....Orrin Hatch who hasn't paid attention to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals in 19 years.

 

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Predictably, McConnell wasted no time in flatly rejecting out of hand Obama's nominee and reiterating his stand that the Senate should not even take up the issue, a handful of GOP Senators have broken with that position and will at least meet with him, and I'm proud (though not surprised) to see Maine's Susan Collins among them (confirming why I've voted for her each time she has run).

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/republicans-scotus-nom-flake-inhofe-k irk-ayotte

These Are The Senate GOPers Willing To Meet With Obama's SCOTUS Pick

Despite Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) flat-out rejecting Obama's Supreme Court nominee, a number of Republican senators said Wednesday that they would meet with Judge Merrick Garland.

Brian Deese, a senior advisor to the President who led the White House's SCOTUS process, highlighted some Republicans' softening their earlier hard-line remarks in a call with reporters.

"I am old enough to remember a few weeks ago when Republicans said uniformly they wouldn't even meet with our nominee," Deese said. "And just in the past hour since the President announced him in the Rose Garden, we've seen more than a handful of Republicans announce that they were willing to meet with our nominee."

Here's a running list of the GOP senators who have said they plan to meet with Garland....

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH)


_________________________________________________________________________

Only one on your list is a member of The Senate Judiciary Committee so the rest do not matter.

These are the actual members that matter:

• Chuck Grassley, Iowa, Chair
• Orrin Hatch, Utah
• Jeff Sessions, Alabama
• Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
• John Cornyn, Texas
• Mike Lee, Utah
• Ted Cruz, Texas
• Jeff Flake, Arizona
• David Vitter, Louisiana
• David Perdue, Georgia
• Thom Tillis, North Carolina

Garland will not be confirmed.

Next



LOL yea....Orrin Hatch who hasn't paid attention to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals in 19 years.

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The Circuit Court of Appeals is a far different gig than the Supreme Court.
Any decision by The Circuit Court of Appeals can be overturned by the Supreme Court.

 

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Garland has a history of giving great deference to federal agencies such as the justice department, the EPA and the IRS all of which have been used by Obama as enforcers of his political agenda while trampling of the citizens constitutional rights.

Garland does not get confirmed.

 

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Democrats are worried about record conservative turnout in nov on this issue alone, once all the establishment crybabies get on board the trump train.


Yes, watch the GOP jump on board "The Trump Hate Train".

Trump - Someone who will never unite the GOP and who is a gift to the Democrats.

 

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Democrats are worried about record conservative turnout in nov on this issue alone, once all the establishment crybabies get on board the trump train.


Yes, watch the GOP jump on board "The Trump Hate Train".

Trump - Someone who will never unite the GOP and who is a gift to the Democrats.



I'm thinking most of the conservatives stay home if their choice is between Trump and Hillary. If Trump is not the nominee, then the Trump supporters are pissed off and don't show up. Either way, Hillary will be the next president, and if Garland isn't confirmed, then the GOP is not going to like what comes next.

 

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Predictably, McConnell wasted no time in flatly rejecting out of hand Obama's nominee and reiterating his stand that the Senate should not even take up the issue, a handful of GOP Senators have broken with that position and will at least meet with him, and I'm proud (though not surprised) to see Maine's Susan Collins among them (confirming why I've voted for her each time she has run).

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/republicans-scotus-nom-flake-inhofe-k irk-ayotte

These Are The Senate GOPers Willing To Meet With Obama's SCOTUS Pick

Despite Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) flat-out rejecting Obama's Supreme Court nominee, a number of Republican senators said Wednesday that they would meet with Judge Merrick Garland.

Brian Deese, a senior advisor to the President who led the White House's SCOTUS process, highlighted some Republicans' softening their earlier hard-line remarks in a call with reporters.

"I am old enough to remember a few weeks ago when Republicans said uniformly they wouldn't even meet with our nominee," Deese said. "And just in the past hour since the President announced him in the Rose Garden, we've seen more than a handful of Republicans announce that they were willing to meet with our nominee."

Here's a running list of the GOP senators who have said they plan to meet with Garland....

Sen. Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH)


_________________________________________________________________________

Only one on your list is a member of The Senate Judiciary Committee so the rest do not matter.

These are the actual members that matter:

• Chuck Grassley, Iowa, Chair
• Orrin Hatch, Utah
• Jeff Sessions, Alabama
• Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
• John Cornyn, Texas
• Mike Lee, Utah
• Ted Cruz, Texas
• Jeff Flake, Arizona
• David Vitter, Louisiana
• David Perdue, Georgia
• Thom Tillis, North Carolina

Garland will not be confirmed.

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As long as he gets hearings and a vote, fine. McConnell intends neither. We'll see.

 

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I looked through the Constitution and nowhere does it say that the voters pick Supreme Court Justices.
 

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Democrats are worried about record conservative turnout in nov on this issue alone, once all the establishment crybabies get on board the trump train.


Yes, watch the GOP jump on board "The Trump Hate Train".

Trump - Someone who will never unite the GOP and who is a gift to the Democrats.



I'm thinking most of the conservatives stay home if their choice is between Trump and Hillary. If Trump is not the nominee, then the Trump supporters are pissed off and don't show up. Either way, Hillary will be the next president, and if Garland isn't confirmed, then the GOP is not going to like what comes next.


X2

It's just a lose lose situation all around for the GOP.

If Trump (the non conservative who is using the GOP name as a means to running for President) does not win the nomination outright, then watch out at the GOP convention. It could get really nasty at the convention especially if the attempt is to give the nomination to someone else in spite of Trumps large lead in delegates. There could be riots at that convention.

If he wins the nomination, many Republicans will stay at home or turn elsewhere. He will lose in large percentage the population sectors needed to win the WH.

If he is turned away by the convention, he could decide to run as an independent. In spite of him taking the silly little oath, expect him to turn independent & take his base with him. He will not win but siphon off enough votes from a real GOP candidate to assure a Hillary or Bernie victory.

Quite frankly, even if Trump is the GOP nominee, he probably cannot defeat a Democrat.

Trump - A lose lose candidate for the GOP.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2016 at 08:06 PM
They should have hearing and there should be a vote.

If Republicans do not like what they are seeing/hearing then they should vote him down.

I agree that if the shoe was on the other foot the Democrats would be fighting tooth and nail to deny a Republican nominee at this stage in the Presidency sunsetting.

But right is right and wrong is wrong. It was wrong for Democrats to deny previous attempts, or say they would, and it is wrong now by the Republicans.

And I agree with previous posts here. The President could've picked someone to make the base happy and score points. Actually I doubt the base is very happy with this choice. And it is true that if Hillary is the next President, Judge Garland will not be her choice, that choice will be something the base is excited about promoting. But politics is politics and so it is what it is.

As to Trump surely losing the general vs Hillary, I still believe that blue collar Democrat crossover for Trump is a real possibility in the general for Trump. Now Hillary will have the liberal base along with the black and hispanic vote. Trump will pull many Republicans (if not almost all due to the establishment thing) and he will win independents and then it is an issue if he can steal enough Democrats from Hillary. The socially conservative blue collar Democrats are not a slam dunk for her I think. But lots of mud slinging to be done between now and then and there is alot of mud to throw Donald's way.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2016 at 08:08 PM
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Democrats are worried about record conservative turnout in nov on this issue alone, once all the establishment crybabies get on board the trump train.


Yes, watch the GOP jump on board "The Trump Hate Train".

Trump - Someone who will never unite the GOP and who is a gift to the Democrats.



I'm thinking most of the conservatives stay home if their choice is between Trump and Hillary. If Trump is not the nominee, then the Trump supporters are pissed off and don't show up. Either way, Hillary will be the next president, and if Garland isn't confirmed, then the GOP is not going to like what comes next.

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Voting, through March 1st, is up 67% for the Republicans and 23% down for the democrats.

Well over a million voters have dumped the democrat party just in the last few months.

Oh yea, The GOP is shaking.
More like laughing after the WP liberals candidate of choice, Bernie Sanders is done and the only thing the left has is a criminal/habitual l liar.

Good luck with that.

 

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  posted on 3/16/2016 at 09:23 PM
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Democrats are worried about record conservative turnout in nov on this issue alone, once all the establishment crybabies get on board the trump train.


Yes, watch the GOP jump on board "The Trump Hate Train".

Trump - Someone who will never unite the GOP and who is a gift to the Democrats.



I'm thinking most of the conservatives stay home if their choice is between Trump and Hillary. If Trump is not the nominee, then the Trump supporters are pissed off and don't show up. Either way, Hillary will be the next president, and if Garland isn't confirmed, then the GOP is not going to like what comes next.

_________________________________________________________________________

Voting, through March 1st, is up 67% for the Republicans and 23% down for the democrats.

Well over a million voters have dumped the democrat party just in the last few months.

Oh yea, The GOP is shaking.
More like laughing after the WP liberals candidate of choice, Bernie Sanders is done and the only thing the left has is a criminal/habitual l liar.

Good luck with that.



You still do not understand how primaries work and who votes in them. But then, you understand virtually nothing about government and politics.

 
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