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  posted on 2/22/2016 at 12:30 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Live-Francisco-Gregg-Allman-Band/dp/B01BLC0J56/ref= sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1456162188&sr=1-3&keywords=allma n

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Light-Live-Ultrasonic-Studios-1974/dp/B0182RI91E/re f=pd_sim_15_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=51cUUPkKS9L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL1 60_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0ACRTSK3SFFP0JV9M2FG

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Fillmore-East-Last-Nites/dp/B01BVM9LWS/ref=pd_s im_15_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=611n7dISvoL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR1 60%2C160_&refRID=1T3PA6XFV3MNH3R5VGMW

[Edited on 2/22/2016 by WarEagleRK]

 
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  posted on 2/22/2016 at 05:07 PM
Two more:

https://www.spincds.com/curiosities-from-the-san-francisco-underground-1966 -1971-volume-one-3cd-48240

(although there's an incorrect album title in the link above it's a 3CD radio show recorded in 1991 at the Cal Expo Amphitheater in Sacremento; i wonder how long this tittle will be actually offered because it looks like a Kirk West picture on the front cover. So even if it's legal to sell such a radio show outside the USA the use of that picture might still be copyright infringement).

https://www.spincds.com/chicago-31-1-1970-cd

Live from Chicago 31/1/1970 and broadcast by WXRT-FM.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2016 at 08:48 PM
All this stuff has been available on ... t0rrEnt sites for many years. Instead of just saying that,
we now need to talk about silly B&P and vines.

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  posted on 2/26/2016 at 07:53 AM
I'm assuming the ABB set is 6/27 and not 6/26?? The setlist is the one from 6/27. Unfortunately I don't think 6/26 exists.
 

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  posted on 2/26/2016 at 01:05 PM
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All this stuff has been available on ... t0rrEnt sites for many years. Instead of just saying that,
we now need to talk about silly B&P and vines.

You may now resume your regularly scheduled programming.


LOL!! I have caught flack (not flac) on more than one occasion for saying these are not gray anything, just a ripoff of the band. But the ABB has never done anything to stop them (and it's very easy), so if anyone wants to throw away their money for something they can have for free (or close to it), that's fine.

At least the Japanese bootleggers like Mid Valley do some remastering on their recordings. These guys don't do anything.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 12:25 PM
If the band wants to rip themselves off, it is their business.

All these old shows have circulated for decades. All ABB has done is to keep re-releasing the shows they've already released. There is no earthly need to vine anything in 2016. In 1997, maybe.

Let's just keep it real.





 

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  posted on 2/27/2016 at 01:09 PM
Unlikely to get anymore band or management initiated releases so I doubt anyone is monitoring these dubious releases. Is the Chicago show a legitimate date?
 
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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 05:09 AM
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Unlikely to get anymore band or management initiated releases so I doubt anyone is monitoring these dubious releases. Is the Chicago show a legitimate date?


I have been pondering that Chicago show myself ... it is not on my list of known dates of genuine shows ... even though it has been around for a long time as a bootleg ...

IF it is a legitimate radio broadcast then the date cannot be right ... just look at the set list ... only three of the seven tracks listed were being played at that time ... SB / TNM / IMOER ... of the rest ...

SM first appeared in May '70
DKMW didn't feature until around the time of "Atlanta Pop" in July '70
DSW & OWO didn't appear until the Fillmore concerts in '71

So IF this is a genuine radio broadcast then it must be some time in 1971 ... but I suspect that it is a fake show fabricated by the bootleggers using material from another show ... probably the A&R Studios show ...










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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 05:31 AM
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Unlikely to get anymore band or management initiated releases so I doubt anyone is monitoring these dubious releases. Is the Chicago show a legitimate date?


I have been pondering that Chicago show myself ... it is not on my list of known dates of genuine shows ... but it has been around for a long time as a bootleg ... IF it is a legitimate radio broadcast then I guess it must be genuine ... does anyone have a copy of the "boot" to comment on whether it is FM broadcast with radio station introduction up front that would legitimise it?

[Edited on 2/28/2016 by harvey]


I think it's badly mislabeled release which might have been caused by lack of proper research. There's a bootleg in circulation for many years ("Chicago Blues Again") with recording info that is limited only to "Recorded from WXRT, Chicago, IL, 1971 (?)" and they just went with that. But those recordings were made at 'A & R Recording Studios', New York City, 08/26/1971" and have been one of the most circulated recordings from the ABB. I just checked both bootlegs and stage announcements (a.o.) are indeed indentical.
It can be easily checked by listening to the start of "Trouble No More". Also see:

http://abbdiscography.duaneallman.info/cdrchicagobluesagain.htm

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 05:48 AM
LOL ... I had just come to the same conclusion Roger and had edited my post while you were posting your comments ...

 

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  posted on 2/28/2016 at 07:09 AM
LOL...indeed!

 

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  posted on 3/2/2016 at 05:51 PM
I've got that Cal Expo show...seem to recall getting it at Wolfgang's Vault.
 
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