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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 11:15 AM
Donald Trump just made an announcement that he will be running for the Presidency of the USA for the Republican Party and when he finished his major announcement there comes Neil Young's "Keep On Rockin' In The Free World" blasting out of the speakers. I guess good old Neil is creating a sh!t storm right now. On the first day of his campaign announcement and Donald's team is already **** in' up (no pun intended). Hard to believe that Neil would agree with this use of his song.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 11:42 AM
Of course, implied in the above is that you are so much smarter than Donald Trump, right?
 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 11:54 AM
Seems pretty funny Trump running in 1st place -- another "H. Ross Perot" type -- yes he has campaign-funds enough to buy it, but, no experience either
money does talk in Wash DC tho -- as it does anywhere, but esp. politics
but those guys, Bernie Sanders etc continue the John Anderson>Lyndon Larouche fringe/colorful candidates -- more power indeed to them
Neil has no right to complain IMO -- surprising he'd raise a bitch about it IMO -- Trump likes the song, as do many

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 12:06 PM
Neil is always upset about something, but this might not make it on his radar.

Not that I think Trump is a good candidate, but I'd rather a good successful business person be in the office than a politician.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 12:10 PM
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Of course, implied in the above is that you are so much smarter than Donald Trump, right?


I don't exactly understand what you mean? In recent years there have been plenty of requests or even legal action by artists that objected that politicians were using their music / lyrics without their approval. I find it hard to believe that Neil knows & approves of this use of his famous song and he is known to put up a fight when something rubs him the wrong way / goes against his principles. So if indeed they used that song without learning from past mistakes of other politicians / campaigners than yes i think that's stupid. But that doesn't make me any smarter .

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 12:20 PM
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Neil is always upset about something, but this might not make it on his radar.

Not that I think Trump is a good candidate, but I'd rather a good successful business person be in the office than a politician.


Agreed, he probably sees Trump as just a misguided fellow w/big $ who likes his (Neil's ) music -- & his own too (Trump's ) -- I'll take Neil's :shaddap :

That was Jimmy Carter's premise too, a successful businessman coming in from the outside etc -- still, Donald Trump occupying the White House makes me nervous...

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 12:30 PM
Neil and Don are pals.


 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 12:42 PM
That says it all bro! -- perfect, thanks for posting

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 01:34 PM
"Rockin' In The Free World"


There's colors on the street
Red, white and blue
People shufflin' their feet
People sleepin' in their shoes
But there's a warnin' sign
on the road ahead
There's a lot of people sayin'
we'd be better off dead
Don't feel like Satan,
but I am to them
So I try to forget it,
any way I can.

Keep on rockin' in the free world,
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world,
Keep on rockin' in the free world.

I see a woman in the night
With a baby in her hand
Under an old street light
Near a garbage can
Now she puts the kid away,
and she's gone to get a hit
She hates her life,
and what she's done to it
There's one more kid
that will never go to school
Never get to fall in love,
never get to be cool.

Keep on rockin' in the free world,
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world,
Keep on rockin' in the free world.

We got a thousand points of light
For the homeless man
We got a kinder, gentler,
Machine gun hand
We got department stores
and toilet paper
Got styrofoam boxes
for the ozone layer
Got a man of the people,
says keep hope alive
Got fuel to burn,
got roads to drive.

Keep on rockin' in the free world,
Keep on rockin' in the free world
Keep on rockin' in the free world,
Keep on rockin' in the free world.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 03:06 PM
I think the irony of the song has escaped Trump and his team.....



 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 03:48 PM
People only hear the chorus anyway... much like Born In The USA.
 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 03:59 PM
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People only hear the chorus anyway... much like Born In The USA.


Or "Every Breath You Take" or "Fortunate Son". I loved when Carnival Cruise used "Lust For Life" on their commercials. But then, politics and advertising aren't about nuance and subtext.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 04:42 PM
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Of course, implied in the above is that you are so much smarter than Donald Trump, right?


To know an implications definition with certainty, I do know someone has to be really smart.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 04:43 PM
When Donald Trump strode on to the stage at Trump Tower on Tuesday to announce that he would enter the Republican race for president, a rock and roll anthem blared: Neil Young’s "Rockin’ in the Free World." It was an odd choice, given that the 1989 song seemed to slam a Republican administration for not giving a damn about the poor. And Young has taken exception to Trump's appropriation of his tune. A statement issued to Mother Jones for Young by his longtime manager Elliot Roberts suggests Young was not pleased by Trump's use of the song:

Donald Trump's use of "Rockin' in the Free World" was not authorized. Mr. Young is a longtime supporter of Bernie Sanders.

In other words, it may be a free world, but you're not free to steal my song.

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 05:25 PM
The basic premise of this thread was correct. Trump was using the song without permission and Neil Young does not support his campaign.

Sounds to me like wearly69 owes ABBDutchFan an apology. In this specific case, ABBDutchFan apparently does know more than Donald Trump.


 
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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 06:37 PM
I think it's a little overplayed IMHO -- no one stole Neil's song, it was just used to kick off the campaign of a political candidate -- maybe Neil feels like he was enlisted into Trumps's campaign because of the use of his song -- still, he doesn't look unhappy in that photo w/Trump --
it's all Americana -- good luck to the candidates

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 06:56 PM
Trump probably had just donated money to the Pono or Lincvolt projects so Neil was happy then.


 

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I don't exactly understand what you mean? In recent years there have been plenty of requests or even legal action by artists that objected that politicians were using their music / lyrics without their approval. I find it hard to believe that Neil knows & approves of this use of his famous song and he is known to put up a fight when something rubs him the wrong way / goes against his principles. So if indeed they used that song without learning from past mistakes of other politicians / campaigners than yes i think that's stupid. But that doesn't make me any smarter .


I wasn't aware of this. I thought they were free to use the song as long as they paid to do so. Just like a NFL team etc... has to pay for playing an artist music at any game or event.

 

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  posted on 6/16/2015 at 11:50 PM
I thought this thread was gonna be about Pono crashing & burning.

 

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  posted on 6/17/2015 at 08:13 AM
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Neil is always upset about something, but this might not make it on his radar.

Not that I think Trump is a good candidate, but I'd rather a good successful business person be in the office than a politician.


Repost when Trump becomes a successful business person. He ruined the Real Estate business his father built, bankrupted his Casino business (talk about taking money from the poor and giving it to he rich) and now makes his money by selling his brand (name).


 

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Neil is always upset about something, but this might not make it on his radar.

Not that I think Trump is a good candidate, but I'd rather a good successful business person be in the office than a politician.


Agreed, he probably sees Trump as just a misguided fellow w/big $ who likes his (Neil's ) music -- & his own too (Trump's ) -- I'll take Neil's :shaddap :

That was Jimmy Carter's premise too, a successful businessman coming in from the outside etc -- still, Donald Trump occupying the White House makes me nervous...



Jimmy Carter was Governer of Georgia, Trump can't even govern his mouth.

 

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  posted on 6/17/2015 at 08:47 AM
Trump is more TV personality than anything now, this is all publicity. He's about as serious about being President as Joe Walsh.

 

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  posted on 6/17/2015 at 08:53 AM
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Neil is always upset about something, but this might not make it on his radar.

Not that I think Trump is a good candidate, but I'd rather a good successful business person be in the office than a politician.


Repost when Trump becomes a successful business person. He ruined the Real Estate business his father built, bankrupted his Casino business (talk about taking money from the poor and giving it to he rich) and now makes his money by selling his brand (name).




Yeah, I knew better than to post in a partially political thread. I know to keep my comments to music and making fun of stuff, but thought just this once... My bad.

[Edited on 6/17/2015 by WarEagleRK]

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/16/neil-young-wants-don ald-trump-to-pick-another-song/?_r=0

Donald Trump wants to rock in the free world, but Neil Young is not having it.

Mr. Trump, the billionaire businessman, drew Mr. Young’s rebuke on Tuesday when he strode across the stage at Trump Tower to declare his presidential candidacy backed by Mr. Young’s song “Rockin’ in the Free World.”

“Donald Trump was not authorized to use ‘Rockin’ in the Free World’ in his presidential candidacy announcement,” the musician’s team said in a statement. “Neil Young, a Canadian citizen, is a supporter of Bernie Sanders for president of the United States of America.”

That Mr. Young would insult The Donald for using his rock anthem and endorse someone more liberal could have been foreseen. After all, the song is famously liberal, having been written as an indictment of the poverty policies of the elder President George Bush’s administration. Mr. Trump is a Republican.

He is not the first presidential candidate to be admonished for using an artist’s song without permission. In April, Senator Marco Rubio declared his candidacy to the electronic tune “Something New,” drawing disapproval from the Swedish duo Axwell and Ingrosso. Mitt Romney was a three-time offender during his 2012 presidential campaign, drawing scorn for using K’naan’s “Wavin’ Flag,” the Silversun Pickups’ “Panic Switch,” and Survivor’s “Eye of the Tiger.”

Nor is Mr. Trump the first conservative to use music with a mismatched message. Ronald Reagan praised Bruce Springsteen’s “message of hope” after The Boss released the album “Born in the U.S.A.” The title song was written to protest broken government, the vast military-industrial complex and the mistreatment of American war veterans, but it has become a patriotic anthem, and politicians of all stripes continue rocking to it.

 

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  posted on 6/17/2015 at 12:17 PM
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having been written as an indictment of the poverty policies of the elder President George Bush’s administration.

But! But!. The incoming prez said this about Herbert..."former President George H.W. Bush "is the most perfect man I've ever met."

 

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