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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 08:13 PM
looks like it.

that didn't take long!

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 08:19 PM
Someone cut and paste the Facebook post

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 08:28 PM
From their official facebook page:

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Although the Allman Brothers Band has announced it will stop touring after next month's Beacon dates, the Wanee Festival will carry on with the ABB - and now you know the dates so you can save them on your calendar: April 16, 17 and 18, 2015!


Assuming they didn't mean "with out", this actually doesn't surprise me at all. It's all semantics. The Allmans have been saying for years they'd stop touring and just play regional festivals eventually. The interesting thing is does this include Warren and Derek, who will likely be there with TTB and Mule anyways. Of course, assuming they didn't mean "with out" which is likely, but you think such a big blunder would have been corrected by now...

[Edited on 9/30/2014 by porkchopbob]

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 08:29 PM
According to ABB facebook page,
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Although the Allman Brothers Band has announced it will stop touring after next month's Beacon dates, the Wanee Festival will carry on with the ABB - and now you know the dates so you can save them on your calendar: April 16, 17 and 18, 2015!



This is very odd...ABB provide more info.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 08:34 PM
This does not surprise me. If the ABB owns Wanee and they book the acts that play the festival, why would they not play. Mule and TTB will be there. ABB makes less money if they must hire a headlining act. I would not be surprised if they don't call the band the ABB family band...similar to when Derek was missing one year.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 08:44 PM
If you read the actual article, you would see that the headline is a typo. This is the exact text from the article:


Each year since 2005 the The Allman Brothers Band and Live Nation have hosted the Wanee Festival at the Spirit of the Suwannee Music Park in Live Oak, FL. Even though it appears the Allmans will play the final shows of their 45-year career late next month, Wanee will continue in 2015.

Today fest organizers have announced the dates for next year's event: Thursday, April 16 through Saturday, April 18. A Wanee Wednesday Happy Hour pre-party will take place on April 15. We look forward to seeing what the lineup holds for Wanee '15 since the Allmans have headlined previous installments. Wanee lineups have generally been announced in January and we'll be sure to let you know when the 2015 bill is revealed.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 08:57 PM
GregB86, the quote you listed came from Jambase.com. That did not come from Wanee's facebook page or website. Jambase posted that hours ago. The ABB facebook statement came out less than an hour ago.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 10:36 PM
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GregB86, the quote you listed came from Jambase.com. That did not come from Wanee's facebook page or website. Jambase posted that hours ago. The ABB facebook statement came out less than an hour ago.


It makes the most sense that they meant to say "carry on with out" rather than "carry on with", regardless of what Gregg said at last year's Wanee. I would think that if the Allman Brothers were announcing they would indeed play Wanee, there would be a little more excitement and purpose to such a statement. Maybe they are keeping their options open. Or they are just feking with us because it's pretty easy to edit a facebook post.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2014 at 11:17 PM
Don't think this is too surprising. Quotes from the various band members in the last few months have left much between the lines so this outcome is likely real. As to who will be in the band at that point is anyone's guess.

From a pure business standpoint, the ABB have survived, and typically thrived, for 45 years. There's no reason (at least to the parties involved) to suddenly run their "business" any differently...

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 06:18 AM
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From their official facebook page:

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Although the Allman Brothers Band has announced it will stop touring after next month's Beacon dates, the Wanee Festival will carry on with the ABB - and now you know the dates so you can save them on your calendar: April 16, 17 and 18, 2015!


Assuming they didn't mean "with out", this actually doesn't surprise me at all. It's all semantics. The Allmans have been saying for years they'd stop touring and just play regional festivals eventually. The interesting thing is does this include Warren and Derek, who will likely be there with TTB and Mule anyways. Of course, assuming they didn't mean "with out" which is likely, but you think such a big blunder would have been corrected by now...

[Edited on 9/30/2014 by porkchopbob]


Well, well, well! If this is true, let me offer condolences, sympathy and a few chuckles to all those who took out second mortgages to buy tickets at inflated prices from scalpers, buy airline tickets and book expensive hotels to attend the "final show" next month in NYC. I kinda felt this would happen.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 06:37 AM
Well this has put the band in a no-win situation.

a. If it's a typo and should be "without" then it got some hopes up.

II. If it is correct, then they are playing around with the semantics of "stop touring" and a lot of people who thought they were seeing the final shows in October will be upset.

3. If they are playing Wanee, there is no mention of if Warren, Derek & Oteil will still be working with the band or if it will be with other players.

iv. Either way it's another example of just putting a release out there without any specifics from the PR people with the band to cause all kinds of speculation with no real answers.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 07:22 AM
Not surprised by this. I am sure they will play Peachfest too. I do have to say though I have really soured on the ABB this year.

Not for one minute do I feel they "owe" me as a fan or anything like that. I also realize things are more complicated behind the scenes then they may appear.

The thing is, with all the fumbles, gaffes, lack of statements, tour or special event for "The Final Year" this band really couldn't make their complete lack of interest any more clear short of issuing a black and white press release stating "We absolutely do not care and are simply going through the motions." And you know what? When they are this in my face about the fact that they don't care, I feel a bit insulted being asked to cough up, what?, $100+ per ticket to see them wherever/whenever they play. Not to mention the fact that I'd feel pretty stupid doing so. $100+ for a band that gets up there and goes through the motions like its some kind of chore? Why would I do that?

The only clips I have seen of the band this year were the Mt Jam webcast and while I realize Gregg's health was clearly an issue, that doesn't really explain the fact that Derek and Warren were both FAR better with their own bands that weekend. Far better. The other 2014 clip I have seen is the Jessica from Wannee. I appreciate the fact that they seemed to try to stick to a tight performance but there seemed to be a total lack of interest from all except Warren on that. Small sample size, but not good. Especially when contrasted with how good TTB and Mule have been this year.

Like I said, they don't "owe" me anything and I am grateful for all the great music and times the ABB has given me. I wish them the best.

...but actions speak louder than words and the actions this year have been SCREAMING "We are sick of being in this band and don't have much interest in it." When you announce that you are - to the surprise of no one really - playing Wannee four weeks before what the front page of your website says are the "The Final Shows" that is not just sloppy, that is flat out insulting. I'm saying this as someone who is not even going. (Wonder if this will have any effect on all the StubHub ticket prices? Not!) Throw in all the other lack of events, dates, acknowledgements and contradictory statements and at this point as a fan you start to not only feel insulted, you feel stupid for wanting to even go to a show.

This is not intended to be a hate-fest on the band. I get that I'm not in their shoes and they have every right to handle their business as they wish but as a fan I am grateful for this forum where I can come and express myself and discuss my take with others because it's a nice way to get the through the disappointment as to how this has ended in such a shameful fashion.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 07:38 AM
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The only clips I have seen of the band this year were the Mt Jam webcast and while I realize Gregg's health was clearly an issue, that doesn't really explain the fact that Derek and Warren were both FAR better with their own bands that weekend.



Actually it does. Music is so much about feel and playing off of the energy of the rest of the band, if one person is down it can bring down the performance of others. You don't want the song to fall apart so if one person is a step behind you either have to get them to pick it up or work to their speed.

Having not seen the Mountain Jam webcast for the ABB as I was watching Robert Randolph and Buddy Guy live that night in my hometown, I can't speak as to my opinion on that performance.


However, I do feel your pain in the previous post. This band is horrible at communication to the media and their fan base.

[Edited on 9/30/2014 by WarEagleRK]

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 07:50 AM
WarEagle - I know what you're saying. But check out the Mt Jam webcast. I think you'll agree that Gregg's health can't totally explain the lack of energy from Warren & Derek. Take Revival for example. It was the first song, Gregg did fine and my lasting impression of the jam segment was that it was more like a lullaby than a Revival. I don't think Gregg was the whole story there. Especially when you look at the Mule and TTB sets from the same weekend.


Also - my disappointment isn't just "communication." I think the smoking gun that there is just no interest from the the band at this point (save maybe some still-trying-but-reaching-burn-out from Warren) is the fact that Derek has stated numerous times that he made it clear he was leaving after 2014 YEARS ago. YEARS. And yet this year has not only been a total train wreck, but apparently, a complete surprise to the original members. If that doesn't say "whatever" I don't know what does.

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 07:51 AM
The Facebook post is confusing....However, I could see the ABB playing Wanee and Peachfest next year. I'll be surprised if Derek is a part of the lineup even if TTB is playing either or both festivals.

I will say that the ABB hit the note pretty good at times at Wanee....Gregg's injury probably was the thing that kept it from being really great shows from start to finish. They also nailed their 2 song performance at the Fox a the Gregg Tribute. And I think people are forgetting how good the Beacon shows were, with & without Gregg (I only have video evidence but sounds good to me):

True Gravity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yZBVZgosfU

Blue Sky:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdEPQwaYVS4

Black Hearted Woman (sans Gregg):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LidlNmbQ56k



 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 08:21 AM
seems like a pretty sh*tty thing to do. they could have at least waited until after the final show to announce it wasn't the final show.

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 08:32 AM
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they could have at least waited until after the final show to announce it wasn't the final show.



Hahahahaha!!!!

There are so many reason why this is funny.

It really sums up what a mess the ABB is and how this year has been a train wreck at each and every turn.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 08:37 AM
Axeman, I agree that their communication is very poor, but that doesn't mean they don't care, or are just going through the motions. I think they do care, and haven't made any announcements because they are still figuring things out. They are losing the meat of the band. It's going to take some time to find answers. It seems clear to me the original 3 care very much, hence the motivation to keep going - they are just horrible at communicating to the fans. These are rock stars, not white collar business men. They probably don't even realize they are bad at communicating. But in no way do they just go through the motions musically. If you feel that way then you must not have heard them at Peachfestival.

I wish I knew more too, but I'll gladly sit and wait for definitive details on future shows and lineups and be grateful for whatever they provide. I'll wait to cast judgments after I see the product....if there is one.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 08:46 AM
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It seems clear to me the original 3 care very much, hence the motivation to keep going - they are just horrible at communicating to the fans. These are rock stars, not white collar business men. They probably don't even realize they are bad at communicating.


That's one of the reasons you have management. They are supposed to take care of that kind of stuff.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 08:50 AM
Ironic TTB's last album was entitled Made Up Mind. As a Packers fan, this is all too familiar. I'm thinking they trade Gregg to the Jets, then next year he joins Skynyrd to spite them. Or something.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 08:53 AM
I think Gregg has abandonment issues and is determined to carry on without Derek, Warren and Oteil.
 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 09:01 AM
it has to be a typo

who would combine the words "carry on with"...that doesn't make any sense

it would, "continue with" or "carry on without" ...right?

Love this band so much...but my goodness, 2014...ouch....

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 09:02 AM
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From their official facebook page:

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Although the Allman Brothers Band has announced it will stop touring after next month's Beacon dates, the Wanee Festival will carry on with the ABB - and now you know the dates so you can save them on your calendar: April 16, 17 and 18, 2015!


Assuming they didn't mean "with out", this actually doesn't surprise me at all. It's all semantics. The Allmans have been saying for years they'd stop touring and just play regional festivals eventually. The interesting thing is does this include Warren and Derek, who will likely be there with TTB and Mule anyways. Of course, assuming they didn't mean "with out" which is likely, but you think such a big blunder would have been corrected by now...

[Edited on 9/30/2014 by porkchopbob]


Well, well, well! If this is true, let me offer condolences, sympathy and a few chuckles to all those who took out second mortgages to buy tickets at inflated prices from scalpers, buy airline tickets and book expensive hotels to attend the "final show" next month in NYC. I kinda felt this would happen.


I wouldn't offer condolences Rusty. People going to the Beacon are going to see 6 shows that will be rehearsed for and hopefully put on in a manner fitting of the end of the ABB.

People at Wanee are going to see a sloppy, unrehearsed ABB show that is going on just because all the guys are in the same place at the same time. They'll met in a trailer a hour before show time, scratch out a setlist of tunes that they hope Gregg can remember and hit the stage. Not really the way I want to remember the ABB.

Now if the band plays the Beacon next Spring then you can offer condolences to those going to the Beacon next month and getting hosed by the band.

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 09:11 AM
I don't get too caught up in the Farewell or final shows stuff too much with musicians/bands I like (though I do think the ABB left some serious money on the table this year). If those artists schedule dates that I can go to and I like how the band sounds at that time or who is in the band, I go. If not, I don't.

There are plenty of classic bands who could be playing together that are doing zero shows. I could get mad at the ABB for being poor communicators or having second thoughts about whether to continue or just enjoy the shows they will play if they do any (or chose to pass on them). Meanwhile, Floyd has played exactly 1 brief festival performance in 20 years. The Police did one tour since 1986. In the timeframe since I saw AC/DC last, I've seen a dozen Allman Brothers shows, with most being really good. The list goes on...

Funny aside about the Farewell stuff is all the people who missed the sarcastic humor in the Eagles referring to one of their tours last decade as "Farewell Tour 1." It was a joke that people still don't get even though in interviews they said it was.

 

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  posted on 9/30/2014 at 09:29 AM
Ryan and Tim - I certainly hear where you're both coming from.

This whole, "last show" thing though is a trick or ruse (at best) at the expense (literally!) of the hardest of hard-core fans who want or need to be in the hospital room with the patient when the ventilator finally stops pumping. Like I said - even earlier on, I fully expected something like this.

Defend them by saying that this was a trick on words - "we didn't say we'd stop playing - we only said we'd stop touring!" In all fairness - they stopped touring a while back. When was the last time that they played several cities in succession? A multi-show stay at the Beacon and a few festival stops (where they are but one of a hundred bands) does not (to this hard-core fan) constitute a tour.

But my love for this band is unconditional. If they choose to renege, I'll only roll my eyes with a slight chuckle. After all, this type of (mis)communication is all that we've come to expect from this outfit.

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