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  posted on 9/6/2014 at 12:34 AM
Oh, and Muleman - you might make note of what alloak did there. He posted evidence to back up a point. That is how you are suppose to make a point and have people take you seriously around here. He didn't just say I've researched it but I'm too busy to post evidence to back up what I say. Alloak and I disagree in a lot of things, but at least he backs up his arguements and provides you with something to think about.
 

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Hey Alloak - Why do you think the Washington DC area is doing economically well while the rest of the country suffers?

 

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Hey Alloak - Why do you think the Washington DC area is doing economically well while the rest of the country suffers?


Because government is about the only growth industry we have left. (with the possible exception of firearms and porn)

 

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Ironically, I bet the conservatives here are the ones that wish Muleman would go away the most. He's the Cliven Bundy of Hitten The Note.
 

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So Alloak - Since government is the backbone of a good economy, don't you think the Republican Congress should pass an all encompassing infrastructure bill that puts people back to work re-building our country?

Shouldn't they build a desalination plant in California? Heck we funded Israel's desalination plant, built a major hydro electric dam in Iraq, completely re-built Bhagdad's infrastructure...

Private industry isn't going to do anything for the country's infrastructure. Isn't it time the Republicans did something more than upstruct?

 

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  posted on 9/6/2014 at 11:16 AM
Here is another article on the southern red states that has a little more to it.... it's long, but interesting.... sorry that the topics change so much in this thread.... :-)

8 Disturbing trends that reveal the South's battered pysche

Across red-state America, especially in the Deep South, recent statistics—such as these Huffington Post graphics—show that the cycle of poverty, in its many manifestations, is unchanged and holding firm. Why is this?

(Editor’s note: This piece has been updated to credit some underlying source material published in the Huffington Post by Business Editor Emily Cohn.)
It’s easy to say this is how Republicans like to run states—cutting budgets, not raising the minimum wage, opposing labor unions. They let the poor and working class stew in their hardscrabble juices. Meanwhile, they distract voters by accusing liberals of waging war on the few sources of personal power in Southerners’ difficult lives: their religious beliefs and owning guns. But go back several decades when segregationist Democrats ruled; for the most part, they weren’t very different from today’s Republicans.

So what is it that perpetuates decades of poverty in the Deep South? What follows are eight bundles of statistics tracking this latest cycle of poverty. Could it be that people who historically have been treated badly, who have little money in their pockets but look to the sky and pray, expect less from others—including the public and private sector? Does that explain why red-staters cling to God, gun ownership and a “leave-me-alone” ferocity? They expect politicians to defend their values and their pride and little more?

What’s going on here isn’t entirely political, even if it is used by red-state Republicans in their personal drive for power and influence. Look at what the following statistics reveal about red-staters trapped in deep cycles of poverty. What is the thread that connects lousy governance, bad health, evangelical religion and firearms fervor?

1. Southern states have the most poor people.

Looking through the widest lense, one sees that America’s sunbelt contains the poorest states. This is not just because it costs less to live in a warmer climate. The Department of Agriculture, which measures poverty, found that every red state in a 2,500-mile stretch from Arizona to South Carolina along the southern tier had the highest poverty rates in the U.S. in 2011, between 17.9 and 22.8 percent.



From west to east, that poverty belt includes Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Georgia and South Carolina. As many as one in four Southern children live in poverty, the Children’s Defense Fund reported earlier this year, compared to the national average of one in five.

As you would expect, the vast majority of people falling under the poverty line in the poorest states do not have white faces—although there are poor whites. The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation compiles state poverty rates by race. In the poorest states, whites account for 15 percent to 20 percent of the poor.

2. Deep South states have no minimum wage.

People work hard, but that doesn’t mean they’re well paid—Southern business elites and politicians like it that way. Five states have no state minimum wage, meaning that the federal minimum of $7.25 an hour and $2.13 for tipped workers is the standard. While other states have raised these floors, that’s not so for Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee and South Carolina. These states also are hostile to organized labor, like the entire South. The result is the 10 states with the lowest average household incomes are mostly southern. Starting at rock bottom, they are Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, Kentucky, New Mexico, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma.

3. Deep South has lowest economic mobility.

Politicans love to talk about the American Dream, which of course, is that hard work will result in a steady climb up the economic ladder. That promise is least likely across the South, according to the Equality of Economic Opportunity Project. It mapped economic mobility county by county across the U.S., and created this map showing that the South was where children born into poor homes were least likely to climb the economic ladder. The region’s businesses and business models overwhelmingly rely on low-wage work.

4. South has lowest per capita spending by state government.

Given these private-sector proclivities, one might expect state and local governments to pick up the slack. While that may be true for education spending compared to other issue areas, at least as measured by high school graduation rates, the states that spend the least for their residents are mostly red states in the South and mountain west.

According to the Kaiser Foundation, per capita expenditures by states in 2011 averaged $5,385. At the very bottom were Nevada ($3,150), Florida ($3,482), Missouri ($3,858), Texas ($3,796), Georgia ($4,176), Idaho ($4,212), Alabama ($4,398), Tennessee ($4,743), and South Carolina ($4,797). Three Deep South states—Mississippi, Arkansas and Louisiana—spend more than the national average, as did West Virginia.

5. Forget about decent preventative healthcare.

When it comes to helping low-income households get access to healthcare, almost all red states, including most of the Deep South, have refused to do this under Obamacare. The U.S. Supreme Court gave states the option to open enrollment into state-run Medicaid programs for the uninsured. Red-state Republicans have declined, although federal funds pay for more than 90 percent of this, with the feds paying the entire bill for the first few years. The Urban Institute mapped counties with the most uninsured people locked out of Obamacare. The result looks like a tornado track that starts in Oklahoma and Texas and goes into Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and North Carolina.

6. One result: people self-medicate in response.

Human nature is human nature, regardless of geography. People will find ways to cope with life’s challenges. But public health statistics show the personal response in the poorest states produces some bad results. The Deep South has the country’s highest obesity rates, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The region has the most cigarette smokers. It has the highest teen birth rates. Now, other areas of the country take the trophy for other vices. But according to Gallup, the pollsters, the states with the most unhappy people are in that Deep South-Midwest swath: Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio and West Virginia.

7. Forget the lottery, just pray to Jesus.

Unlike Brandy Clarke’s new song, “Pray to Jesus, Play the Lotto,” Southerners do not spend the most on lottery tickets. Massachusetts takes that honor. But the South (and Utah) has the most evangelical Christians. In Alabama, the third most Christian state (56 percent of residents) and the second most religious state, according to the Pew Research Center, Republicans recently proposed a state constitutional amendment to put the Ten Commandments in public buildings. Rep. DuWayne Bridges said school shootings and violent crime was “due to the Ten Commandments not being displayed.”

Whether politicians like Bridges believe that nonsense is not the point. He is promoting that pious view because he knows most Alabamans are likely to have more faith in God than in man, because they are very religious. That is a consequence of poverty. When people are poor and struggling and they can’t do too much about it, they seek escapes—overeating, smoking, doing drugs. Some look for answers in religion. People hold onto what they can control, such as their beliefs.

It’s no surprise that the poorest states are the most religious. Pew ranked the importance of religion, and found the 10 most religious states were, in descending order, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Georgia and Kentucky. But there other ways people who are battered by society try to feel personally powerful, which brings us to firearms.

8. And hold onto that gun!

The poorest states, which are the most religious, also have the most gun violence. That’s a sad consequence of a widespread gun-owning culture that goes beyond rural traditions of hunting. Southerners don’t trust government because Republicans tell them not to, allowing the GOP to do little to help people live better. Democrats who ruled the South during segregation drove the same point home. So it’s no surprise that the poorest states have some of the highest gun ownership rates and highest rates of gun-related violence.

The 10 states with the most gun violence, based on federal statistics, are, in descending order, Louisiana, Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Mississippi, South Carolina, New Mexico, Missouri, Arkansas and Georgia. People who don’t have much power in the world know that guns are powerful. Like their religious beliefs, guns steel people against a hard life. Unfortunately, when people emotionally snap and grab a gun, the result can be deadly.

Breaking the Cycle?

It’s not that difficult to understand the dynamics of voters in the poorest states electing Republicans who share their religious values and love of guns—but who won’t do much else to rebalance their state economies. Old habits are hard to break. If you are used to being treated poorly, that expectation can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If red-state voters demanded more from their politicians, their employers and the institutions that perpetuate poverty, the status quo would begin to unwind and start to shift. Until then, reams of statistics will keep finding that America’s poorest regions are the same red states, run by white Republicans, and filled with people who have the blues.


http://www.salon.com/2014/03/12/8_disturbing_trends_that_reveal_the_souths_ battered_psyche_partner/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

 

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  posted on 9/6/2014 at 07:52 PM
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So Alloak - Since government is the backbone of a good economy, don't you think the Republican Congress should pass an all encompassing infrastructure bill that puts people back to work re-building our country?

Shouldn't they build a desalination plant in California? Heck we funded Israel's desalination plant, built a major hydro electric dam in Iraq, completely re-built Bhagdad's infrastructure...

Private industry isn't going to do anything for the country's infrastructure. Isn't it time the Republicans did something more than upstruct?


As I recall, the infrastructure parts of the Stimulus were supported by many Republicans. Problem is, not much work got done.

Aside from that, yes, if I was serving in the House I would push for an infrastructure bill as long as the only focus was to upgrade the infrastructure and nothing else. No politics involved. No greasing unions, no rewarding this group or that group or any of the other normal shenanigans.

 

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  posted on 9/6/2014 at 11:46 PM
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So Alloak - Since government is the backbone of a good economy, don't you think the Republican Congress should pass an all encompassing infrastructure bill that puts people back to work re-building our country?

Shouldn't they build a desalination plant in California? Heck we funded Israel's desalination plant, built a major hydro electric dam in Iraq, completely re-built Bhagdad's infrastructure...

Private industry isn't going to do anything for the country's infrastructure. Isn't it time the Republicans did something more than upstruct?


what do you call the 800 billion dollars of stimulus? the next time some progressive says the house won't pass an infrastructure bill have them read this. no. it's not long term but the way dc acts what do you expect?

http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/index.php?q=bill/hr-5021-the-high way-and-transportation-funding-act-of-2014

 

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  posted on 9/7/2014 at 09:48 AM
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Here is another article on the southern red states that has a little more to it.... it's long, but interesting.... sorry that the topics change so much in this thread.... :-)

8 Disturbing trends that reveal the South's battered pysche

Across red-state America, especially in the Deep South, recent statistics—such as these Huffington Post graphics—show that the cycle of poverty, in its many manifestations, is unchanged and holding firm. Why is this?

(Editor’s note: This piece has been updated to credit some underlying source material published in the Huffington Post by Business Editor Emily Cohn.)
It’s easy to say this is how Republicans like to run states—cutting budgets, not raising the minimum wage, opposing labor unions. They let the poor and working class stew in their hardscrabble juices. Meanwhile, they distract voters by accusing liberals of waging war on the few sources of personal power in Southerners’ difficult lives: their religious beliefs and owning guns. But go back several decades when segregationist Democrats ruled; for the most part, they weren’t very different from today’s Republicans.

So what is it that perpetuates decades of poverty in the Deep South? What follows are eight bundles of statistics tracking this latest cycle of poverty. Could it be that people who historically have been treated badly, who have little money in their pockets but look to the sky and pray, expect less from others—including the public and private sector? Does that explain why red-staters cling to God, gun ownership and a “leave-me-alone” ferocity? They expect politicians to defend their values and their pride and little more?

What’s going on here isn’t entirely political, even if it is used by red-state Republicans in their personal drive for power and influence. Look at what the following statistics reveal about red-staters trapped in deep cycles of poverty. What is the thread that connects lousy governance, bad health, evangelical religion and firearms fervor?

1. Southern states have the most poor people.

Looking through the widest lense, one sees that America’s sunbelt contains the poorest states. This is not just because it costs less to live in a warmer climate. The Department of Agriculture, which measures poverty, found that every red state in a 2,500-mile stretch from Arizona to South Carolina along the southern tier had the highest poverty rates in the U.S. in 2011, between 17.9 and 22.8 percent.



From west to east, that poverty belt includes Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Georgia and South Carolina. As many as one in four Southern children live in poverty, the Children’s Defense Fund reported earlier this year, compared to the national average of one in five.

As you would expect, the vast majority of people falling under the poverty line in the poorest states do not have white faces—although there are poor whites. The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation compiles state poverty rates by race. In the poorest states, whites account for 15 percent to 20 percent of the poor.

2. Deep South states have no minimum wage.

People work hard, but that doesn’t mean they’re well paid—Southern business elites and politicians like it that way. Five states have no state minimum wage, meaning that the federal minimum of $7.25 an hour and $2.13 for tipped workers is the standard. While other states have raised these floors, that’s not so for Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee and South Carolina. These states also are hostile to organized labor, like the entire South. The result is the 10 states with the lowest average household incomes are mostly southern. Starting at rock bottom, they are Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, Kentucky, New Mexico, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma.

3. Deep South has lowest economic mobility.

Politicans love to talk about the American Dream, which of course, is that hard work will result in a steady climb up the economic ladder. That promise is least likely across the South, according to the Equality of Economic Opportunity Project. It mapped economic mobility county by county across the U.S., and created this map showing that the South was where children born into poor homes were least likely to climb the economic ladder. The region’s businesses and business models overwhelmingly rely on low-wage work.

4. South has lowest per capita spending by state government.

Given these private-sector proclivities, one might expect state and local governments to pick up the slack. While that may be true for education spending compared to other issue areas, at least as measured by high school graduation rates, the states that spend the least for their residents are mostly red states in the South and mountain west.

According to the Kaiser Foundation, per capita expenditures by states in 2011 averaged $5,385. At the very bottom were Nevada ($3,150), Florida ($3,482), Missouri ($3,858), Texas ($3,796), Georgia ($4,176), Idaho ($4,212), Alabama ($4,398), Tennessee ($4,743), and South Carolina ($4,797). Three Deep South states—Mississippi, Arkansas and Louisiana—spend more than the national average, as did West Virginia.

5. Forget about decent preventative healthcare.

When it comes to helping low-income households get access to healthcare, almost all red states, including most of the Deep South, have refused to do this under Obamacare. The U.S. Supreme Court gave states the option to open enrollment into state-run Medicaid programs for the uninsured. Red-state Republicans have declined, although federal funds pay for more than 90 percent of this, with the feds paying the entire bill for the first few years. The Urban Institute mapped counties with the most uninsured people locked out of Obamacare. The result looks like a tornado track that starts in Oklahoma and Texas and goes into Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and North Carolina.

6. One result: people self-medicate in response.

Human nature is human nature, regardless of geography. People will find ways to cope with life’s challenges. But public health statistics show the personal response in the poorest states produces some bad results. The Deep South has the country’s highest obesity rates, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The region has the most cigarette smokers. It has the highest teen birth rates. Now, other areas of the country take the trophy for other vices. But according to Gallup, the pollsters, the states with the most unhappy people are in that Deep South-Midwest swath: Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio and West Virginia.

7. Forget the lottery, just pray to Jesus.

Unlike Brandy Clarke’s new song, “Pray to Jesus, Play the Lotto,” Southerners do not spend the most on lottery tickets. Massachusetts takes that honor. But the South (and Utah) has the most evangelical Christians. In Alabama, the third most Christian state (56 percent of residents) and the second most religious state, according to the Pew Research Center, Republicans recently proposed a state constitutional amendment to put the Ten Commandments in public buildings. Rep. DuWayne Bridges said school shootings and violent crime was “due to the Ten Commandments not being displayed.”

Whether politicians like Bridges believe that nonsense is not the point. He is promoting that pious view because he knows most Alabamans are likely to have more faith in God than in man, because they are very religious. That is a consequence of poverty. When people are poor and struggling and they can’t do too much about it, they seek escapes—overeating, smoking, doing drugs. Some look for answers in religion. People hold onto what they can control, such as their beliefs.

It’s no surprise that the poorest states are the most religious. Pew ranked the importance of religion, and found the 10 most religious states were, in descending order, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Georgia and Kentucky. But there other ways people who are battered by society try to feel personally powerful, which brings us to firearms.

8. And hold onto that gun!

The poorest states, which are the most religious, also have the most gun violence. That’s a sad consequence of a widespread gun-owning culture that goes beyond rural traditions of hunting. Southerners don’t trust government because Republicans tell them not to, allowing the GOP to do little to help people live better. Democrats who ruled the South during segregation drove the same point home. So it’s no surprise that the poorest states have some of the highest gun ownership rates and highest rates of gun-related violence.

The 10 states with the most gun violence, based on federal statistics, are, in descending order, Louisiana, Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Mississippi, South Carolina, New Mexico, Missouri, Arkansas and Georgia. People who don’t have much power in the world know that guns are powerful. Like their religious beliefs, guns steel people against a hard life. Unfortunately, when people emotionally snap and grab a gun, the result can be deadly.

Breaking the Cycle?

It’s not that difficult to understand the dynamics of voters in the poorest states electing Republicans who share their religious values and love of guns—but who won’t do much else to rebalance their state economies. Old habits are hard to break. If you are used to being treated poorly, that expectation can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If red-state voters demanded more from their politicians, their employers and the institutions that perpetuate poverty, the status quo would begin to unwind and start to shift. Until then, reams of statistics will keep finding that America’s poorest regions are the same red states, run by white Republicans, and filled with people who have the blues.


http://www.salon.com/2014/03/12/8_disturbing_trends_that_reveal_the_souths_ battered_psyche_partner/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow


About what you would expect from Salon, a "lets look down on the South because they vote for Republicans" piece of garbage.

Gun ownership and religion lead to poverty? How exactly? Hint: it's not religious rednecks causing the gun violence pointed out in the article.

The larger question, if it's so bad in the South, why are so many people choosing to move here? The county in which I live has been booming for the past 20 years, as have many destinations in the South. But post a picture of the Rebel Flag, mix in guns and religion, talk about "poverty" and presto - it's some kind of living hell. Wrong.

If it chose to, Snoblon could find negative statistics and/or negative stereotypes to make any region look bad.

I'm sure that someone will counter with the "South takes more from the Treasury than it contributes" canard. OK then, lets put all the military bases, retirees, illegal immigrants, agriculture (subsidies) in the Northeast and revisit that statistic.

 

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So Alloak - Since government is the backbone of a good economy, don't you think the Republican Congress should pass an all encompassing infrastructure bill that puts people back to work re-building our country?

Shouldn't they build a desalination plant in California? Heck we funded Israel's desalination plant, built a major hydro electric dam in Iraq, completely re-built Bhagdad's infrastructure...

Private industry isn't going to do anything for the country's infrastructure. Isn't it time the Republicans did something more than upstruct?


what do you call the 800 billion dollars of stimulus? the next time some progressive says the house won't pass an infrastructure bill have them read this. no. it's not long term but the way dc acts what do you expect?

http://democrats.energycommerce.house.gov/index.php?q=bill/hr-5021-the-high way-and-transportation-funding-act-of-2014


That would have worked out well, except that the funds didn't usually get used for what they were intended to.
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  posted on 9/7/2014 at 01:29 PM
About what you would expect from Salon, a "lets look down on the South because they vote for Republicans" piece of garbage.

Gun ownership and religion lead to poverty? How exactly? Hint: it's not religious rednecks causing the gun violence pointed out in the article.

The larger question, if it's so bad in the South, why are so many people choosing to move here? The county in which I live has been booming for the past 20 years, as have many destinations in the South. But post a picture of the Rebel Flag, mix in guns and religion, talk about "poverty" and presto - it's some kind of living hell. Wrong.

If it chose to, Snoblon could find negative statistics and/or negative stereotypes to make any region look bad.

I'm sure that someone will counter with the "South takes more from the Treasury than it contributes" canard. OK then, lets put all the military bases, retirees, illegal immigrants, agriculture (subsidies) in the Northeast and revisit that statistic.

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How true.

Yes, Salon loves to spread hate.

We do love our guns down South because we actually hunt. Know how to cook our kills too.
Can you imagine some yankee liberal having to survive without a grocery store?

We fly the Confederate Flag because it is a symbol of our history and has nothing to do with slavery or racism. The hate groups such as the NCCAP, Southern Poverty Law Center, Jackson and Sharpton claim it is a symbol of slavery because that is their industry; keeping hate alive.
The democrats ran the South during the slavery era. It was a Republican President that freed the slaves. It was The Republicans that brought The Civil Rights Act while the democrat’s filibustered against it.
BTW – chain gangs started in Philadelphia.

The South is now run mostly be Republicans and those States are doing better every day. People are flocking to The South because of lower taxes, less fees, a lower cost of living, respect for your neighbor and states’ rights. People in The South go to church.
Our food is better too!

We do have our problems especially in the big cities. Black violence is dominate in Atlanta, Charlotte, Houston, New Orleans and a few others. That is a self-inflicted problem which is taking care of itself. Those cities are run by black democrats but we all have to pay the cost.
As we say in my home state of Georgia “There is the Great State of Georgia and then there is Atlanta”.

We do invite the Yankees to come on down for vacation. Spend your money and then get the hell out.
A little "Southern Hospitality".


 

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About what you would expect from Salon, a "lets look down on the South because they vote for Republicans" piece of garbage.

Gun ownership and religion lead to poverty? How exactly? Hint: it's not religious rednecks causing the gun violence pointed out in the article.

The larger question, if it's so bad in the South, why are so many people choosing to move here? The county in which I live has been booming for the past 20 years, as have many destinations in the South. But post a picture of the Rebel Flag, mix in guns and religion, talk about "poverty" and presto - it's some kind of living hell. Wrong.

If it chose to, Snoblon could find negative statistics and/or negative stereotypes to make any region look bad.

I'm sure that someone will counter with the "South takes more from the Treasury than it contributes" canard. OK then, lets put all the military bases, retirees, illegal immigrants, agriculture (subsidies) in the Northeast and revisit that statistic.

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How true.

Yes, Salon loves to spread hate.

We do love our guns down South because we actually hunt. Know how to cook our kills too.
Can you imagine some yankee liberal having to survive without a grocery store?

We fly the Confederate Flag because it is a symbol of our history and has nothing to do with slavery or racism. The hate groups such as the NCCAP, Southern Poverty Law Center, Jackson and Sharpton claim it is a symbol of slavery because that is their industry; keeping hate alive.
The democrats ran the South during the slavery era. It was a Republican President that freed the slaves. It was The Republicans that brought The Civil Rights Act while the democrat’s filibustered against it.
BTW – chain gangs started in Philadelphia.

The South is now run mostly be Republicans and those States are doing better every day. People are flocking to The South because of lower taxes, less fees, a lower cost of living, respect for your neighbor and states’ rights. People in The South go to church.
Our food is better too!

We do have our problems especially in the big cities. Black violence is dominate in Atlanta, Charlotte, Houston, New Orleans and a few others. That is a self-inflicted problem which is taking care of itself. Those cities are run by black democrats but we all have to pay the cost.
As we say in my home state of Georgia “There is the Great State of Georgia and then there is Atlanta”.

We do invite the Yankees to come on down for vacation. Spend your money and then get the hell out.
A little "Southern Hospitality".




Black cities, black Democrats... Interesting.


Son, you live in Maryland. Maryland was not part of the Confederacy. The closest state border to you is a state the seceded from the CSA. You are a Yankee. Deal with it.

 

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Black cities, black Democrats... Interesting.


Son, you live in Maryland. Maryland was not part of the Confederacy. The closest state border to you is a state the seceded from the CSA. You are a Yankee. Deal with it.
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I was born in Georgia and lived in Virginia for 96% of my life. I am a true Southerner.
I live in Maryland now to take care of my elderly parents. its a Southern thing.

On black cities, black democrats: the facts hurt don't they?
The violence, rarely reported by the left-wing media, is nearing out of control.
A back man is most likely to die at the hands of another black man.
Major cities are dying such as Detroit because of corrupt democrat mayors (mostly black), union demands (approved my democrats) and the people living there.
40 square miles of Detroit ghetto have to be bulldozed.
White people have nothing to do with it.

Almost all of my associates and friends that are black tell me that they are embarrassed by "that" group" of their race.

The Democrats continue their "programs" and handouts to that group mostly to buy their votes but just enough to keep 'em down.

The Republicans was all people to have a good paying job negating the need for the entitlement society.








 

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  posted on 9/7/2014 at 03:29 PM
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Black cities, black Democrats... Interesting.


Son, you live in Maryland. Maryland was not part of the Confederacy. The closest state border to you is a state the seceded from the CSA. You are a Yankee. Deal with it.
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I was born in Georgia and lived in Virginia for 96% of my life. I am a true Southerner.
I live in Maryland now to take care of my elderly parents. its a Southern thing.

On black cities, black democrats: the facts hurt don't they?
The violence, rarely reported by the left-wing media, is nearing out of control.
A back man is most likely to die at the hands of another black man.
Major cities are dying such as Detroit because of corrupt democrat mayors (mostly black), union demands (approved my democrats) and the people living there.
40 square miles of Detroit ghetto have to be bulldozed.
White people have nothing to do with it.

Almost all of my associates and friends that are black tell me that they are embarrassed by "that" group" of their race.

The Democrats continue their "programs" and handouts to that group mostly to buy their votes but just enough to keep 'em down.

The Republicans was all people to have a good paying job negating the need for the entitlement society.










Thank you for that response. It makes it very clear who you are and what you believe. BTW, you still do not live in the former Confederacy. Apparently your parent abandoned the mother country as well, son.

 

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Thank you for that response. It makes it very clear who you are and what you believe. BTW, you still do not live in the former Confederacy. Apparently your parent abandoned the mother country as well, son.
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Attack my parents?
You are a typical liberal piece of **** .

 

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  posted on 9/7/2014 at 03:53 PM
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Thank you for that response. It makes it very clear who you are and what you believe. BTW, you still do not live in the former Confederacy. Apparently your parent abandoned the mother country as well, son.
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Attack my parents?
You are a typical liberal piece of **** .


I did not attack your parents, son. I merely repeated what you said. Thanks for the personal attack. Once again, it is ok when you do it. Got it, son.

 

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  posted on 9/7/2014 at 04:37 PM
Still the liberals have no answers.

How do you explain Obama’s inability to create jobs? The unemployment rate for black men should be an embarrassment for you but…

How do you explain that more people have slipped into poverty under the Obama administration?

How do you explain the fact that only democrats are invited to join the congressional black caucus and black democrats are intentionally excluded?

Why do democrats call black republicans “uncle-toms” and race traitors?

Why do democrat party operatives throw oreo cookies at black conservative speakers?

Why do democrats use race as a wedge issue in politics but never seem to actually help black people.

Black people have suffered under the Obama administration and nothing seems to be coming to help them other than political rhetoric.

When incapable of helping the black people the liberals usual answer is attack the republicans.

Devoid of any intellectual argument, Obama and the democrats continue to fail.


 

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  posted on 9/7/2014 at 06:06 PM
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Are you foghorn leghorn or carl childers, mule man? or a bit of both??.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8TQZBHszI4

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Still the liberals have no answers.

 

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Are you foghorn leghorn or carl childers, mule man? or a bit of both??.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8TQZBHszI4

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Still the liberals have no answers.

 

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quote:
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Are you foghorn leghorn or carl childers, mule man? or a bit of both??.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8TQZBHszI4

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Still the liberals have no answers.

Go back to your trailer in maryland and learn some facts son. maybe educate yourself [after you learn to read of course]


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typical liberal response.
When not able to defend their failed president, ignore the fact and attack the messenger.

BTW - see the new Washington Post/ABC News poll (Sept. 7th)?
The nation deems Obama a failure.

 

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  posted on 9/9/2014 at 12:43 PM



quote:
Black cities, black Democrats... Interesting.


Son, you live in Maryland. Maryland was not part of the Confederacy. The closest state border to you is a state the seceded from the CSA. You are a Yankee. Deal with it.
________________________________________________________________________
I was born in Georgia and lived in Virginia for 96% of my life. I am a true Southerner.
I live in Maryland now to take care of my elderly parents. its a Southern thing.

On black cities, black democrats: the facts hurt don't they?
The violence, rarely reported by the left-wing media, is nearing out of control.
A back man is most likely to die at the hands of another black man.
Major cities are dying such as Detroit because of corrupt democrat mayors (mostly black), union demands (approved my democrats) and the people living there.
40 square miles of Detroit ghetto have to be bulldozed.
White people have nothing to do with it.

Almost all of my associates and friends that are black tell me that they are embarrassed by "that" group" of their race.

The Democrats continue their "programs" and handouts to that group mostly to buy their votes but just enough to keep 'em down.

The Republicans was all people to have a good paying job negating the need for the entitlement society.





Unbelievable that I am posting in this thread, but now I feel I must! On behalf of everyone that was born in Georgia, especially those of us that were then mostly raised in Virginia, I feel I must apologize to everyone here for Muleman's comments...he is obviously a complete j@ckass, please ignore him!

BTW, I'll guess that he could have actually been born in Georgia, possibly while his parents were driving back to NOVA (i.e. Northern Virginia [aka DC suburbs]) from vacation(?) - NOVA is NOT 'the South' in any way, shape or form! Regardless of what he states, he is NOT representative of a 'true Southerner' (as I'm sure many of you already know)...otherwise he wouldn't be showing his @ss, even after debating with some of you D@mn Yankees for so long!

Y'all should quit responding to him and hopefully he will go away!

Peace!

 

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