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  posted on 9/27/2013 at 11:04 PM
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Right on the heels of his upcoming expanded Unplugged 2CD/DVD set comes a 6 (yep, SIX) disc set from 1974/75.

DISC 1: 461 OCEAN BLVD expanded with 8 bonus tracks...4 of which have not been released previously.

DISC 2: THERE'S ONE IN EVERY CROWD expanded with 5 bonus tracks...2 of which have not been previously released, AND, both sides of the non-album single, "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" & "Someone Like You".

DISC 3: E.C. WAS HERE remixed & expanded to 9 tracks...4 of which have not been previously released (all from either the July 19 or 20, 1974 Long Beach Arena shows).

DISC 4: E.C. WAS HERE further expanded to a 2nd disc of 7 live tracks tracks from various places in '74 & '75.

DISC 5: THE FREDDIE KING CRITERIA SESSIONS 4 tracks, one never before released and 1 track released for the first time in its full-length, 20+ minutes) version.

DISC 6:
Chapter 1: (Blu-Ray DVD) 461 OCEAN BLVD 5.1 Surround Mix (previously unreleased Eliot Scheiner mix)

Chapter 2: 461 OCEAN BLVD original 4.0 Quadrophonic mix

Chapter 3: THERE'S ONE IN EVERY CROWD original 4.0 Quadrophonic mix


Looks like it's going to be a Slowhand Christmas at the chiliD house!

 
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  posted on 9/28/2013 at 02:34 AM
A bit like Van Morrison's five-disc Moondance re-release...

Nobody has to buy them but their biggest fans will and have to buy a lot of music they already have just to get a few unreleased tracks, remixes and alternate versions.

Sometimes what was originally released as intended is all you need.





 

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  posted on 9/28/2013 at 02:49 AM
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A bit like Van Morrison's five-disc Moondance re-release...

Nobody has to buy them but their biggest fans will and have to buy a lot of music they already have just to get a few unreleased tracks, remixes and alternate versions.

Sometimes what was originally released as intended is all you need.







this is nothing like the new moondance set thats just several discs of alternate takes from the moondance sessions

 

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  posted on 9/28/2013 at 09:48 AM
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Sometimes what was originally released as intended is all you need.





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  posted on 9/28/2013 at 11:18 AM
The only thing that really peaks my interest here is the expanded E.C. Was Here discs because I love that record . I'd buy it for sure.............IF I was Larry Ellison.

 

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  posted on 9/28/2013 at 04:10 PM
Hey honey my birthdays the 29th how bout this instead of that 5.99 flannel shirt that's on sale!
 

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  posted on 9/29/2013 at 01:38 AM
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A bit like Van Morrison's five-disc Moondance re-release...

Nobody has to buy them but their biggest fans will and have to buy a lot of music they already have just to get a few unreleased tracks, remixes and alternate versions.

Sometimes what was originally released as intended is all you need.







this is nothing like the new moondance set thats just several discs of alternate takes from the moondance sessions


Always gotta be contrary and get the last word in. So juvenile.....and boring.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2013 at 04:17 AM
Eric Clapton
Give Me Strength, The 1974 / 1975 Boxset

Label: Universal Music
Release: 25 November 2013
Full Tracklisting:

DISC ONE – 461 OCEAN BOULEVARD expanded version
1 MOTHERLESS CHILDREN
2 GIVE ME STRENGTH
3 WILLIE AND THE HAND JIVE
4 GET READY
5 I SHOT THE SHERIFF
6 I CAN’T HOLD OUT
7 PLEASE BE WITH ME
8 LET IT GROW
9 STEADY ROLLIN’ MAN
10 MAINLINE FLORIDA
Session out-takes:

11 AIN’T THAT LOVIN’ YOU
12 MEET ME (DOWN AT THE BOTTOM)
13 LONESOME ROAD BLUES (WALKIN’ DOWN THE ROAD)
14 GETTING ACQUAINTED (previously unreleased)
15 GETTING ACQUAINTED 2 (TOO LATE) (previously unreleased)
16 ERIC AFTER HOURS BLUES
17 PLEASE BE WITH ME (ACOUSTIC) (previously unreleased)
18 GIVE ME STRENGTH (DOBRO 1) (previously unreleased)

DISC TWO – THERE’S ONE IN EVERY CROWD expanded version
1 WE’VE BEEN TOLD (JESUS IS COMING SOON)
2 SWING LOW SWEET CHARIOT
3 LITTLE RACHEL
4 DON’T BLAME ME
5 THE SKY IS CRYING
6 SINGIN’ THE BLUES
7 BETTER MAKE IT THROUGH TODAY
8 PRETTY BLUE EYES
9 HIGH
10 OPPOSITES
Session out-takes:

11 BURIAL (previously unreleased)
12 WHAT’CHA GONNA DO
13 I FOUND A LOVE
14 (WHEN THINGS GO WRONG) IT HURTS ME TOO
15 FOOLS LIKE ME (previously unreleased)
Non-album single release:

16 KNOCKIN’ ON HEAVEN’S DOOR
17 SOMEONE LIKE YOU

DISC THREE – E.C. WAS HERE remixed and expanded version
1 SMILE (Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
2 HAVE YOU EVER LOVED A WOMAN (Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 19, 1974)
3 PRESENCE OF THE LORD (Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
4 CROSSROADS (previously unreleased -Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
5 I SHOT THE SHERIFF (previously unreleased – Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
6 LAYLA (previously unreleased – Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
7 LITTLE WING (previously unreleased – Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
8 CAN’T FIND MY WAY HOME (Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
9 DRIFTIN’ BLUES / RAMBLIN’ ON MY MIND (Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)

DISC FOUR – E.C. WAS HERE remixed and expanded version
1 RAMBLIN’ ON MY MIND / HAVE YOU EVER LOVED A WOMAN (Recorded at the Hammersmith Odeon, London, December 4, 1974)
2 WILLIE AND THE HAND JIVE / GET READY (Recorded at Long Beach Arena, Long Beach, California, July 20, 1974)
3 THE SKY IS CRYING / HAVE YOU EVER LOVED A WOMAN / RAMBLIN’ ON MY MIND (Recorded at the Hammersmith Odeon, London, December 5, 1974)
4 BADGE (Recorded at Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale New York, June 28, 1975)
5 DRIFTIN’ BLUES (Recorded at Providence Civic Center, Providence, Rhode Island, June 25, 1975)
6 EYESIGHT TO THE BLIND / WHY DOES LOVE GOT TO BE SO SAD (Recorded at Providence Civic Center Providence, Rhode Island, June 25, 1975)
7 FURTHER ON UP THE ROAD (Recorded at Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale New York, June 28, 1975)

DISC FIVE – THE FREDDIE KING CRITERIA STUDIOS SESSIONS
1 SUGAR SWEET
2 TV MAMA
3 BOOGIE FUNK (previously unreleased)
4 GAMBLING WOMAN BLUES (previously unreleased full length version)

DISC SIX – (BLU-RAY AUDIO)
1. 461 OCEAN BOULEVARD Elliot Scheiner 5.1 Surround Sound mix (previously unreleased). 5.1 Surround Mix by Elliot Scheiner at The Eyeball.
2. 461 OCEAN BOULEVARD original quadraphonic mix. Mixed by Tom Dowd at Criteria Recording Studios, Miami, Florida, January 1975.
3. THERE’S ONE IN EVERY CROWD original quadraphonic mix. Mixed by Tom Dowd at Criteria Recording Studios, Miami, Florida, January 1975.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2013 at 05:05 AM
I believe HTN Editor, John Lynskey, is writing the liner notes for this boxset!

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  posted on 9/29/2013 at 05:05 AM
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A bit like Van Morrison's five-disc Moondance re-release...

Nobody has to buy them but their biggest fans will and have to buy a lot of music they already have just to get a few unreleased tracks, remixes and alternate versions.

Sometimes what was originally released as intended is all you need.







this is nothing like the new moondance set thats just several discs of alternate takes from the moondance sessions


Always gotta be contrary and get the last word in. So juvenile.....and boring.


so please explain to me other than containing cd's and a blu ray audio, which almost every boxset contains now, how this boxset covering several albums from several years is the same as a boxset covering the sessions of single album? this clapton boxset is more like the recent dylan bootleg volume 10 while the van morrison boxset is more like the recent band live at the academy or ABB brothers and sisters boxsets that focus on 1 specific album.

 

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  posted on 9/29/2013 at 10:50 AM
Being a Clapton guy, I'm sure I'll get this, but I was hoping for more of a Crossroads 3 release with more live stuff.
 

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so please explain to me other than containing cd's and a blu ray audio, which almost every boxset contains now, how this boxset covering several albums from several years is the same as a boxset covering the sessions of single album? this clapton boxset is more like the recent dylan bootleg volume 10 while the van morrison boxset is more like the recent band live at the academy or ABB brothers and sisters boxsets that focus on 1 specific album.


Clearly, I didn't mean that it was literally the same concept as Moondance x 5.

If you read the rest of my post, my point was about the amount of previously released material an ardent fan - the most likely market - would have to buy to obtain some unreleased/remixed/ alternate versions.

This type of release is a bit in vogue these days exploiting, you could say, the Grey Dollar/ Pound etc. You could even include the B & S re-release under this genre, although the percentage of unreleased content was much higher than on this Clapton.

PS I haven't actually researched that final fact, so pleased don't take me literally....





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  posted on 9/29/2013 at 12:41 PM
the van morrison set though had 3 cd's worth of unreleased material. this clapton set looks to have a total of 2 cd worth of unreleased stuff spread over several cd's. it is a bit of a ripoff
 

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  posted on 10/15/2013 at 01:28 PM
As I've only got 461 on CD as originally released and I've never replaced Crowd that I had on vinyl or had EC was here, this order has already been placed.

Agree that some of these box sets are not good value to the dedicated fans - The Who's Quadrophenia, Tommy and Live at Leeds Super deluxe versions are ones that I've passed on despite The Who being my all-time fave band and Tommy my all time fave album.

The Bands Live at the Academy is one that I had a good think about - and despite a lot of duplication, extremely happy with that especially to get the full Hogmanay concert as it was performed and the other discs sound even better than the remaster of rock of ages with a better (but not perfect) running order.

B&S was a good example of how to do a Deluxe release, as was Springsteen's Darkness with the live stuff from that era on both. Darkness is probably the best of these sets so far - but was spoiled a bit by the release of the out-takes CD and documentary DVD separately later.

Just enjoying the Deluxe version of Clapton Unplugged at the moment.... Was "off" Clapton when it came out so really appreciating it properly now.

 

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  posted on 10/15/2013 at 01:42 PM
I heard Chuck Leavell at one time was going to get more money for the unplugged sessions if it sold well. I was wondering with the new release of unplugged if Chuck and Eric made up or if he is getting compinsated for his part. What I heard Chuck had a verbel agreement with Eric.
 

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  posted on 10/15/2013 at 08:17 PM
461 OB is a fine record...but I've already bought
1) the original vinyl version
2) a cassette tape version
3) The original CD version
4) The deluxe CD version

Now, I guess he wants me to help pay for his great, great, grandchildren's college education.
God knows he and his record company have enough of my money over the past 40 yrs.

And I'll still be tempted to buy this whole set...hopefully a used version at a reduced price

 

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I think box sets are kinda a thing of the past ,IMHO. When most of this stuff is out there in some form and with media like this being available digitally, why waste your money. Just download the songs you dont have. Does a majority of the listening comuunity care about the quad mixes? Does the artist have anything to gain financially from this when consumers are more into digital downloads and cd sales are low? I guess the hard core fans will buy this which is fine.

I just dont seeing putting my money into these anymmore. It would have to be something never out there and heard before for me to purchase it.

 

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I think box sets are kinda a thing of the past ,IMHO. When most of this stuff is out there in some form and with media like this being available digitally, why waste your money. Just download the songs you dont have. Does a majority of the listening comuunity care about the quad mixes? Does the artist have anything to gain financially from this when consumers are more into digital downloads and cd sales are low? I guess the hard core fans will buy this which is fine.

I just dont seeing putting my money into these anymmore. It would have to be something never out there and heard before for me to purchase it.

 

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I think box sets are kinda a thing of the past ,IMHO. When most of this stuff is out there in some form and with media like this being available digitally, why waste your money. Just download the songs you dont have. Does a majority of the listening comuunity care about the quad mixes? Does the artist have anything to gain financially from this when consumers are more into digital downloads and cd sales are low? I guess the hard core fans will buy this which is fine.

I just dont seeing putting my money into these anymmore. It would have to be something never out there and heard before for me to purchase it.


Totally disagree...the sound quality alone is often worth it to me...the recent box sets-Dylan,The Band,ABB B&S,Skydog...all box sets with excellent sound,unique cuts,alt cuts,outtakes,live shows,etc....if you consider Gregg's Anthology as a Boxset the experience musically would be similarly outstanding...also,I have little interest in joining the technological bandwagon....thus individual songs are nice to hear,but complete albums and their conceptual base are of greater interest....we each have different tastes in music and how we like to listen!

 

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Now, I guess he wants me to help pay for his great, great, grandchildren's college education.


I think it's more a case of added revenue for his Crossroads Center in Antigua. Seems as though EVERYTHING he does these days goes toward that.

 
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I think box sets are kinda a thing of the past ,IMHO. When most of this stuff is out there in some form and with media like this being available digitally, why waste your money. Just download the songs you dont have. Does a majority of the listening comuunity care about the quad mixes? Does the artist have anything to gain financially from this when consumers are more into digital downloads and cd sales are low? I guess the hard core fans will buy this which is fine.

I just dont seeing putting my money into these anymmore. It would have to be something never out there and heard before for me to purchase it.



Agree 100% Scott. And let me ask you: If the bonus tracks are as good as the original records, why weren't they released in the 70's?

 

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I think box sets are kinda a thing of the past ,IMHO. When most of this stuff is out there in some form and with media like this being available digitally, why waste your money. Just download the songs you dont have. Does a majority of the listening comuunity care about the quad mixes? Does the artist have anything to gain financially from this when consumers are more into digital downloads and cd sales are low? I guess the hard core fans will buy this which is fine.

I just dont seeing putting my money into these anymmore. It would have to be something never out there and heard before for me to purchase it.



Agree 100% Scott. And let me ask you: If the bonus tracks are as good as the original records, why weren't they released in the 70's?


thats not exactly fair. some songs were cut from albums due to time limitations. other times songs were cut because they sounded too similar to another song on the album. other times they are cut because the band felt it wasn't finished at the time. why is the rolling stones album tattoo you made up of mostly stuff cut from previous albums? i could say why did the band release "start me up" in 1981 when it wasn't good enough for the mid 70's.i believe in this case the song was put on hold because keith thought the riff was borrowed from another source.

look at how many great songs are on the dylan bootleg series that went unreleased for decades.

 

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  posted on 10/17/2013 at 04:04 AM
One thing I would say is that a lot of record production is influenced by what is in vogue at the time - phasing in the 60s, disco beat in the 70s, orchestral arrangements etc and it is sometimes instructive to hear songs in a demo or rehearsal form where you can hear them stripped of frippery.

Or, in a more macabre way, hearing all the recorded work of a deceased artist. This has rather more more value, I think, than a living artist tossing us scraps from the editing-room floor to squeeze a little more $$$ out of a stalled career.




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I think box sets are kinda a thing of the past ,IMHO. When most of this stuff is out there in some form and with media like this being available digitally, why waste your money. Just download the songs you dont have. Does a majority of the listening comuunity care about the quad mixes? Does the artist have anything to gain financially from this when consumers are more into digital downloads and cd sales are low? I guess the hard core fans will buy this which is fine.

I just dont seeing putting my money into these anymmore. It would have to be something never out there and heard before for me to purchase it.



Agree 100% Scott. And let me ask you: If the bonus tracks are as good as the original records, why weren't they released in the 70's?


thats not exactly fair. some songs were cut from albums due to time limitations. other times songs were cut because they sounded too similar to another song on the album. other times they are cut because the band felt it wasn't finished at the time. why is the rolling stones album tattoo you made up of mostly stuff cut from previous albums? i could say why did the band release "start me up" in 1981 when it wasn't good enough for the mid 70's.i believe in this case the song was put on hold because keith thought the riff was borrowed from another source.

look at how many great songs are on the dylan bootleg series that went unreleased for decades.


Agree totally with Matt here....the Dylan bootleg series has been,for the most part affordable and has had a ton of excellent unreleased songs or alt cuts.Thered be no Blind Willie Mctell without the bootleg series...yes,the prices,the decorative books are a bit much,but there has been plenty of good music...reread the box sets I mention in my post above and add to that EC crossroads 2 Boxset and many more....

 

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  posted on 10/17/2013 at 09:48 AM
The sad thing is that these artists are not releasing any noteworthy new material (The Band, Jimi, and Duane are excused).

It's clearly profitable for the record labels, since all there are no studio or production costs- just some engineering time to remaster old recordings. How else can they squeeze more sales out of Brothers & Sisters.

I presume these box sets are targeted to old farts like us who appreciate the unreleased material and are willing to spend the money, compared to the younger folks who seem content to watch Youtube videos or stream their music from Pandora.

I just see this all as evidence of the continuing decline in the quality of new music.

 

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