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  posted on 1/4/2013 at 08:15 PM
I remember hearing rumors about this 2011 release but I must have crawled under a rock because I just discovered that it came out! Does anyone have this set? I'm looking for the dates of the recordings on the "In Concert" portion of the release, namely the bonus tracks. Are the bonus tracks the same versions from Live at the Fillmore (yes, I know they're all from the same series of Fillmore East shows). Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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  posted on 1/4/2013 at 08:21 PM
Haha...thread title should read Layla & OALA
 

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  posted on 1/4/2013 at 10:53 PM
None of the live songs on Layla deluxe edition are from the Filmore concerts.

They are from performances on the Johnny Cash TV show. Most of the bonus materials is either outtakes, or alternate versions. Bobby Whitlock did add vocals to complete the studio version of Got To Get Better In A Little While.

[Edited on 1/5/2013 by CB]

 

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  posted on 1/5/2013 at 04:43 AM
In case you are refering to the super deluxe boxset instead of the regular deluxe 2cd re-release:

"The album was previously remixed and reissued in 1990 with two discs of bonus material, but how does this new edition stack up against that set? Hit the jump to find out! The Layla Sessions box set included a disc of jams and another CD of outtakes. Only one of those outtakes, “Mean Old World,” is duplicated on the new deluxe edition. The bonus disc kicks off with some genuine rarities, namely both sides of a rare non-LP single produced by Phil Spector and the band’s complete performance on The Johnny Cash Show from November 1970 (featuring guest appearances from Cash and Carl Perkins on Perkins’ own “Matchbox”). The rest of the disc is devoted to sessions from the group’s aborted second LP, nearly all of which were previously released on the iconic Crossroads box set back in 1988. (Those outtakes are newly remixed for this box set.)

The super-deluxe box adds another set of nice treats for fans: the album on double vinyl, a DVD featuring 5.1 surround remixes of the album (plus “Mean Old World”), and another two discs encapsulating the band’s stand at The Fillmore East in the fall of 1970. (The original double album from these dates, 1973?s In Concert, form the groundwork for this part of the set, and each disc is augmented with four bonus songs first released on Live at The Fillmore, a 1994 live set that took different performances from those concerts.) The whole set will be housed in a box featuring pop-up artwork, reproduced swag and a new hardcover book."

Derek & The Dominos, Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs: 40th Anniversary Edition (Polydor/UMe, 2011) Disc 1: Original LP (originally released as Polydor 2625 005 (U.K.)/Atco SD 2-704 (U.S.), 1970)
1.I Looked Away
2.Bell Bottom Blues
3.Keep on Growing
4.Nobody Knows You When You’re Down and Out
5.I Am Yours
6.Anyday
7.Key to the Highway
8.Tell the Truth
9.Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?
10.Have You Ever Loved a Woman
11.Little Wing
12.It’s Too Late
13.Layla
14.Thorn Tree in the Garden

Disc 2: Bonus material (deluxe and super-deluxe editions only)
1.Mean Old World
2.Roll It Over
3.Tell the Truth
4.It’s Too Late (Live on “The Johnny Cash Show” – 11/5/1970) *
5.Got to Get Better in a Little While (Live on “The Johnny Cash Show” – 11/5/1970) *
6.Matchbox (with Johnny Cash & Carl Perkins) (Live on “The Johnny Cash Show” – 11/5/1970) *
7.Blues Power (Live on “The Johnny Cash Show” – 11/5/1970) *
8.Snake Lake Blues (New Mix) **
9.Evil (New Mix) **
10.Mean Old Frisco (New Mix) **
11.One More Chance (New Mix) **
12.Got to Get Better in a Little While (Jam) *
13.Got to Get Better in a Little While (New Mix) **

* previously unreleased recording ** newly remixed recording
Disc 2, Track 1 from The Layla Sessions (Polydor 847 083-2, 1990)
Disc 2, Tracks 2-3 from Atco single 45-6780 (U.K.), 1970
Disc 2, Tracks 8-11 and 13 originally released on Crossroads (Polydor 835 261-1, 1988)

Disc 3: DVD (super-deluxe edition only)
•DTS 5.1 and Dolby Surround Sound 5.1 mixes of the original LP plus “Mean Old World”

Discs 4-5: In Concert (originally released as RSO 2659 020 (U.K.)/SO 2-8800 (U.S.), 1973) (super-deluxe edition only)
1.Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad?
2.Got to Get Better in a Little While
3.Let It Rain
4.Presence of the Lord
5.Key to the Highway *
6.Nobody Knows You When You’re Down and Out *
1.Tell the Truth
2.Bottle of Red Wine
3.Roll It Over
4.Blues Power
5.Have You Ever Loved a Woman
6.Little Wing *
7.Crossroads *

* subsequently released on Live at The Fillmore (Polydor 521 682-2, 1994)

LPs 1-2: Original album (available separately or in super-deluxe edition)

 

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  posted on 1/5/2013 at 04:52 AM
Some extra warning applies to the above info regarding the boxset:

it got rather bad publicity and lot's of consumer complaints which i don't know if they have been fully resolved by now. My first impression is that it's not been resolved. I think Amazon hasn't it been carrying in stock anymore. The complaints are about the housing of the cds which results in easily damaged discs, memorablia missing from the packages, missing discs and dissapointments regarding the remixing/mastering.

 

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  posted on 1/5/2013 at 10:25 AM
ABBDutchFan, your response answers my question. Thanks for that! I was curious to know if the four "bonus" tracks on Discs 4 and 5 were from Live at the Fillmore, or if they were previously unreleased versions from that 1970 Fillmore East run.

Too bad about the packaging complaints. The packaging must be pretty dern bad if it's deterred folks from buying what appears to be a very cool box set. I'm still very interested to hear the material on disc 2 of the deluxe/superdeluxe set.

 

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  posted on 1/5/2013 at 10:59 AM
Wait a minute, am I reading that right? The supposed "Deluxe" version of Layla does NOT contain the amazing jams that were featured on the 20th anniversary Layla box set?

If so, that is really messed up. That is some of the best, most worthy bonus material ever issued on a re-release. The fact that the Johnny Cash show stuff is on there, and those jams aren't, is indefensible.

BabaOrion, if I were you I'd try to track down a copy of the 20th Anniversary Layla box, plus the extended version of Live At The Fillmore with the extra tracks. That would be a better investment than this set.

 
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  posted on 1/5/2013 at 12:18 PM
I like my vinyl Layla and the subsequent D&D In Concert although I do have the CD's with the other assorted stuff. I like the original mix typically. "Remix" too often involves a sound engineer who was not even alive back in 70 mixing it to what they think it "should" have sounded like by today standards. The mid range gets sucked down, with bass pumped up and the wonderful guitar, vocals, piano, etc sufferering. Sometimes I wonder if the artists even listen to these new mixes.

I highly recommend the In Concert on vinyl, even without Duane, it is a gem.

 

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  posted on 1/6/2013 at 03:53 AM
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Wait a minute, am I reading that right? The supposed "Deluxe" version of Layla does NOT contain the amazing jams that were featured on the 20th anniversary Layla box set?

If so, that is really messed up. That is some of the best, most worthy bonus material ever issued on a re-release. The fact that the Johnny Cash show stuff is on there, and those jams aren't, is indefensible.

BabaOrion, if I were you I'd try to track down a copy of the 20th Anniversary Layla box, plus the extended version of Live At The Fillmore with the extra tracks. That would be a better investment than this set.


I guess you are right about that. Especially for those looking for ABB content the previous boxset
(20th anniversary) is much more interesting. But it was (from a commercial viewpoint) "clever"
to give the new boxset other content but it failed in execution. In case cds / dvds are stored in a way that they are easily sratched and damaged can be easily resolved by storing them in those paper/plastic cd envelopes but it is more the complaints regarding missing memorablia etc. that kept me from buying the newer set.

 

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  posted on 1/6/2013 at 12:07 PM
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Wait a minute, am I reading that right? The supposed "Deluxe" version of Layla does NOT contain the amazing jams that were featured on the 20th anniversary Layla box set?

If so, that is really messed up. That is some of the best, most worthy bonus material ever issued on a re-release. The fact that the Johnny Cash show stuff is on there, and those jams aren't, is indefensible.

BabaOrion, if I were you I'd try to track down a copy of the 20th Anniversary Layla box, plus the extended version of Live At The Fillmore with the extra tracks. That would be a better investment than this set.


Thanks, Rob. I already have the 20th Anniversary Edition w/ the jams disc, as well as Live at the Fillmore. Live at the Fillmore (1994) is essentially an extended version of In Concert (1973).

 

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  posted on 1/6/2013 at 10:00 PM
Thanks Duane, for 'Layla'.

 

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  posted on 1/7/2013 at 02:58 AM
i have the 2 cd version. never wanted to pony up all the money for the big boxset and now glad i didn't since people say there were lots of problems with it
 

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  posted on 1/7/2013 at 02:08 PM
I have the deluxe double cd set and it's worth the money. I was thinking of of buying the super deluxe box but changed my mind after reading all of the bad reviews.

Last year I did luck up on a 1st pressing of the studio album at a local record store in great condition. I also picked up the In Concert record as well.

 

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  posted on 1/7/2013 at 08:37 PM
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Thanks, Rob. I already have the 20th Anniversary Edition w/ the jams disc, as well as Live at the Fillmore. Live at the Fillmore (1994) is essentially an extended version of In Concert (1973).


The In Concert and Live at The Fillmore discs are from different shows, so the performances differ (slightly but noticeably).

The jams from the 20th Anniversary are great, but probably didn't need to be included in place of newly available material (why rip off the consumers). Is the 20th Anniversary edition still in print?



 

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Thanks, Rob. I already have the 20th Anniversary Edition w/ the jams disc, as well as Live at the Fillmore. Live at the Fillmore (1994) is essentially an extended version of In Concert (1973).


The In Concert and Live at The Fillmore discs are from different shows, so the performances differ (slightly but noticeably).

The jams from the 20th Anniversary are great, but probably didn't need to be included in place of newly available material (why rip off the consumers). Is the 20th Anniversary edition still in print?





I guess it's not in print anymore but there are still (online) stores who carry it in stock and / or have second hand copies. I've seen it offered regularly and for a very decent price. Well worth to pick it up for those who don't own it yet.

 

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  posted on 1/10/2013 at 10:24 PM
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None of the live songs on Layla deluxe edition are from the Filmore concerts.

They are from performances on the Johnny Cash TV show. Most of the bonus materials is either outtakes, or alternate versions. Bobby Whitlock did add vocals to complete the studio version of Got To Get Better In A Little While.


Interesting. I've seen the video of "It's Too Late" & "Matchbox" (I love Carl Perkins rocking his pointy littlle boots on that version), but I never knew they also played "Got To Get Better" & and "Blues Power" that night also. Are those videos circulating anywhere?

 

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  posted on 1/10/2013 at 10:39 PM
For anyone still reading this thread, this wiki article pretty clearly breaks down the difference between the songs on In Concert (1973) and Live at the Fillmore (1994). Same concerts, just a few songs are different versions. I sure would love to hear the versions of Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad, Let It Rain, and Tell the Truth from In Concert if anyone feel like floating this seemingly out of print album my way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Concert_(Derek_and_the_Dominos_album)

 

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  posted on 1/11/2013 at 10:18 AM
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For anyone still reading this thread, this wiki article pretty clearly breaks down the difference between the songs on In Concert (1973) and Live at the Fillmore (1994). Same concerts, just a few songs are different versions. I sure would love to hear the versions of Why Does Love Got to Be So Sad, Let It Rain, and Tell the Truth from In Concert if anyone feel like floating this seemingly out of print album my way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Concert_(Derek_and_the_Dominos_album)


I haven't been there in a few years, but wolfgangsvault (if you're not morally opposed to it) has both shows. People have always said the In Concert version of Why Does Love is the "definitive" version. I don't know, maybe because I had the Fillmore East album for 15 years before I heard the In Concert version, but I prefer the Fillmore album. The wah opening is sublime.

Actually, Eric's wah work on the Fillmore album is great throughout.

ACTUALLY, Fillmore is my favorite live Eric of any era. His solo on Presence of the Lord is the most beautiful rock guitar I've ever heard.

 
 


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