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  posted on 9/2/2014 at 02:08 PM
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The Hillary bashing from conservatives is purely based on a legitimate fear that she will win in 2016. If they truly believed that she can't win, they wouldn't waste any time or energy even thinking about her, let alone listing reasons why she isn't qualified. Funny how you don't hear any Republicans bash or mention Biden.


You are correct.

Waiting to hear the name of a Republican that they think can actually beat Hillary if she runs. I only hope Ted Cruz is in the mix. He can fill the void left behind by Palin & Bachmann.

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  posted on 9/2/2014 at 02:27 PM
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We will let you know the names in January after The Republicans take back The Senate.


You make yourself sound like a high powered Republican decision maker. I'm surprised. I took you for a duped, mislead, mouthpiece that parrots unsubstantiated excrement from right wing web sites.

My bad.

 

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  posted on 9/2/2014 at 07:48 PM
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We will let you know the names in January after The Republicans take back The Senate.


You make yourself sound like a high powered Republican decision maker. I'm surprised. I took you for a duped, mislead, mouthpiece that parrots unsubstantiated excrement from right wing web sites.

My bad.


Just ell informed son.
You should try it.

 

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  posted on 9/2/2014 at 08:52 PM
another insightful post
 

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Just ell informed son.
You should try it.


Did you misspell "ill" Boy?

 

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  posted on 9/2/2014 at 09:54 PM
The personal attacks continue and not one of you can justify Obama's failed policies or even his presidency.
No wonder y'all will lose this November.

 

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  posted on 9/2/2014 at 10:44 PM
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The personal attacks continue and not one of you can justify Obama's failed policies or even his presidency.


Because that claim is subjective?

 

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The personal attacks continue and not one of you can justify Obama's failed policies or even his presidency.


My 401K, since June has increased by tens of thousands.

Gas prices are down.

Troops are allegedly out of Iraq. (I don't believe that but I know we are wasting less money over there.)

Bin Laden is dead.

It is accepted to where a tan suit before Labor Day.

I'm getting great medical care and paying about the same for my insurance - a little higher on some co-pays but I think that will even out when I meet my out of pocket maximum.

Bottom line is my financial well being is far better than when Bush was in office.

There is plenty I don't like about the Obama administration. Far more I don't like about this Congress. Far, far more I don't like about the Republican and Democrat parties.

With all I don't like, after the disaster that was Bush/Cheney, I don't think I'll ever vote for a another clown car Republican ticket in my life.

A true anti-war candidate might make me think otherwise.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 09:24 AM
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The personal attacks continue and not one of you can justify Obama's failed policies or even his presidency.


My 401K, since June has increased by tens of thousands.

Gas prices are down.

Troops are allegedly out of Iraq. (I don't believe that but I know we are wasting less money over there.)

Bin Laden is dead.

It is accepted to where a tan suit before Labor Day.

I'm getting great medical care and paying about the same for my insurance - a little higher on some co-pays but I think that will even out when I meet my out of pocket maximum.

Bottom line is my financial well being is far better than when Bush was in office.

There is plenty I don't like about the Obama administration. Far more I don't like about this Congress. Far, far more I don't like about the Republican and Democrat parties.

With all I don't like, after the disaster that was Bush/Cheney, I don't think I'll ever vote for a another clown car Republican ticket in my life.

A true anti-war candidate might make me think otherwise.



1. Imagine where it would be had we experienced anywhere close to a robust recovery.

2. When they've been higher it's not Obama's fault, yet he gets credit when they are lower?

3. The Iraq (and Middle East) that Obama inherited was much more stable than it is today.

4. ISIS (the JV) is very much alive.

5. ?

6. Great medical care was not available until Obama was sworn in.

7. You must be one of the lucky ones that still have a job.

8. When has Congress ever been popular?

9. Nobody would expect you to.

10. We should continue to hollow out the military, take limited action and hope things just work themselves out.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 11:01 AM
"Gas prices are down."

Gas prices have doubled under the Obama administration.
When President Bush left office the national average was $1.82 - $1.84.



 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 11:11 AM
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Imagine how pissed the GOP is going to be when Hillary gets elected.

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Not a chance in hell.
The American people know that hiring Obama (an amateur with no professional experience) as President was a big mistake.
They won't let that happen again.



Amateur with no experience? So, exactly who in the Republican Party has more experience than living in the White House for 8 years, being a U.S. Senator for 8 years, and being Secretary of State?


Living in the WH isn't experience or else every first lady would be qualified to be president by virtue of marriage. Not very feminist. Clinton now has signficant experience. Unfortunately that experience showed her to be in completely over her head. Obama had no relevant experience and should have had the smarts to surround himself with competent experienced people to adivse him.

 

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Imagine how pissed the GOP is going to be when Hillary gets elected.

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The American people know that hiring Obama (an amateur with no professional experience) as President was a big mistake.
They won't let that happen again.



Amateur with no experience? So, exactly who in the Republican Party has more experience than living in the White House for 8 years, being a U.S. Senator for 8 years, and being Secretary of State?


name one major piece of legislation she sponsored. her senate record is abysmal. as for her experience as secretary of state, theres more chaos now than ever. reset with Russia, iran supporting isis. north korea. north Africa. the list goes on and on. she certainly isn't hubby bill


She was woefully unqualified to run the State Department. Really. All other recent presidents have had serious foreign policy thinkers and careerists advising them. I didn't like and agree with them all but never before has the Secretary of State been a job you give to a political rival to placate them. Bush had Colin Powell and then Condi Rice, a phd in international studies. Clinton had Warren Christopher, a career foreign affairs figure and later Madeline Albright, another phd in international affairs. Reagan had George Schultz. Even if some turned out to not be so great all had serious qualifications for the jobs they were given. Obama appoints blowhards hacks and political operatives to the most important posts. It is no surprise the world is in flames and he apears to have no idea what to do. As for Hillary Clinton, in terms of experience she is as qualified as anyone else but I have seen nothing from her that makes me think she would be an effective leader with vision and good judgment. Of course she would be an improvement over Obama. Anyone would. Literally anyone.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 11:28 AM
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Witch hunts against the Clintons and now more wasted tax payer money stupidity by the GOP against Obama. Meanwhile the W Bush administration, the one that should have been heavily investigated for the myriad of trouble they caused were let off the hook. Bottom line is the Republicans can't handle having a Democrat in the White House and will do everything in their power to disrupt and obstruct them when they are. It is so obvious that it boggles the mind.



what are republicans supposed to do? they are supposedly the opposition party. if they had obamas views they'd be progressives


Being the opposition party doesn't mean complete obstruction and foolish and costly law suits and foolishly attempted impeachment against Democrati presidents. If anyone deserved to be impeached it was W Bush but with the state of the country in disaray the newly elected Obama administration took the high road and decided against lengthy and costly investigations of the Bush administration for the better of our country. Why can't the GOP be as respectful towards a democrat administration whether they agree on everything or not. The Republicans just can't handle it when the democrats hold the White House and will act like little cry babies who dropped their binkies every time a Dem is top dog.


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But it DOES mean blocking legislation they disagree with. Politics is the art of the possible and if the president wants legislation passed he needs to knock heads together on both sides and get them to compromise. You can believe until the cows come home that the Republicans will automatically vote against anything he proposes but there is simply no evidence of that. Other presidents have recognized what is possible and have worked with hostile opposition leaders to get things done. Obama's endless arrogance and refusal to even deign to play the game of politics makes such a thing impossible for him. The only politics he plays is the electoral kind. He actually likes the obstruction because it enables him to go to his 300 plus fundraisers evey night and rail against the horrible Republicans. He is MUCH more interested in that than actually improving the lot of the nation by careful compromise.

 

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Witch hunts against the Clintons and now more wasted tax payer money stupidity by the GOP against Obama. Meanwhile the W Bush administration, the one that should have been heavily investigated for the myriad of trouble they caused were let off the hook. Bottom line is the Republicans can't handle having a Democrat in the White House and will do everything in their power to disrupt and obstruct them when they are. It is so obvious that it boggles the mind.



what are republicans supposed to do? they are supposedly the opposition party. if they had obamas views they'd be progressives


Being the opposition party doesn't mean complete obstruction and foolish and costly law suits and foolishly attempted impeachment against Democrati presidents. If anyone deserved to be impeached it was W Bush but with the state of the country in disaray the newly elected Obama administration took the high road and decided against lengthy and costly investigations of the Bush administration for the better of our country. Why can't the GOP be as respectful towards a democrat administration whether they agree on everything or not. The Republicans just can't handle it when the democrats hold the White House and will act like little cry babies who dropped their binkies every time a Dem is top dog.


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But it DOES mean blocking legislation they disagree with. Politics is the art of the possible and if the president wants legislation passed he needs to knock heads together on both sides and get them to compromise. You can believe until the cows come home that the Republicans will automatically vote against anything he proposes but there is simply no evidence of that. Other presidents have recognized what is possible and have worked with hostile opposition leaders to get things done. Obama's endless arrogance and refusal to even deign to play the game of politics makes such a thing impossible for him. The only politics he plays is the electoral kind. He actually likes the obstruction because it enables him to go to his 300 plus fundraisers evey night and rail against the horrible Republicans. He is MUCH more interested in that than actually improving the lot of the nation by careful compromise.


Yeah, problem with your argument is that they have also obstructed and shot down many things that they previously supported which is what makes their obstruction so obvious. They just don't wany him to get positive credit for anything even if it would benefit the American people. Just watch should they retake the White House how many of the new Republican president's ideas look just like Obama's ideas but of course they will say they are different because they were ours. Watch how fast they float infrastructure funding after refusing to sign an infrastructure bill that has been waiting to be passed for years. They won't sign it under Obama because it would create a boatload of jobs lowering the unemployment rate further while stimulating the economy at the same time and God forbid Obama got credit for that. They said it from day one of his presidency. Their one and only goal was to make Obama a one term president. When they failed brutally at that goal they switched to now we block everything so he has as small a legacy as possible. That is their one and only agenda because they have no other ideas.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 01:05 PM
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1. Imagine where it would be had we experienced anywhere close to a robust recovery.



So a Republican, George W. Bush, turned a surplus into the largest deficit in history, nearly destroyed the world's economy and you want me to be angry because that economy was turned around. A Democrat didn't do a good enough job fixing the toxic dump leftover from the Republican - so???

Is that the best you got Alloak? Don't you see the Party you support created the mess? At least it is getting better Dude - not worse like what happened under the Republicans.

God I feel like I'm on a roundabout circus ride with clowns jumping up and shouting non sensical psychedelic catch phrases.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 01:19 PM
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"Gas prices are down."

Gas prices have doubled under the Obama administration.
When President Bush left office the national average was $1.82 - $1.84.

That's because the entire economy was in a complete free fall when Bush left office. Six months before he left office, the U.S. average retail price of regular gasoline reached $4.11 per gallon on July 7, 2008. On an inflation-adjusted basis (expressed in real June 2014 dollars using the Consumer Price Index) the highest monthly average price EVER was $4.43 per gallon in June 2008. Today the ave price for reg is $3.43, down 4.5% from a year ago.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 02:21 PM
I love when people on a music site who never majored in political science or held any job related to politics, believe they are qualified to accurately judge the qualifications and experience of politicians in Washington.
 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 05:14 PM
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1. Imagine where it would be had we experienced anywhere close to a robust recovery.



So a Republican, George W. Bush, turned a surplus into the largest deficit in history, nearly destroyed the world's economy and you want me to be angry because that economy was turned around. A Democrat didn't do a good enough job fixing the toxic dump leftover from the Republican - so???

Is that the best you got Alloak? Don't you see the Party you support created the mess? At least it is getting better Dude - not worse like what happened under the Republicans.

God I feel like I'm on a roundabout circus ride with clowns jumping up and shouting non sensical psychedelic catch phrases.


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Wrong again son.

Obama has added more to the debt is only 5 years than President Bush did, while fighting two wars that were supported by the 'Crats, in eight years.

Do math elude you or just the facts?

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 05:26 PM
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1. Imagine where it would be had we experienced anywhere close to a robust recovery.



So a Republican, George W. Bush, turned a surplus into the largest deficit in history, nearly destroyed the world's economy and you want me to be angry because that economy was turned around. A Democrat didn't do a good enough job fixing the toxic dump leftover from the Republican - so???

Is that the best you got Alloak? Don't you see the Party you support created the mess? At least it is getting better Dude - not worse like what happened under the Republicans.

God I feel like I'm on a roundabout circus ride with clowns jumping up and shouting non sensical psychedelic catch phrases.


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Wrong again son.

Obama has added more to the debt is only 5 years than President Bush did, while fighting two wars that were supported by the 'Crats, in eight years.

Do math elude you or just the facts?



Son, you need to learn the difference between the debt and the deficit if you are going to act like an expert.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 06:07 PM
Eluded and deluded.

 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 08:43 PM
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So a Republican, George W. Bush, turned a surplus into the largest deficit in history, nearly destroyed the world's economy and you want me to be angry because that economy was turned around. A Democrat didn't do a good enough job fixing the toxic dump leftover from the Republican - so???


Not really, no. Check what Reagan did with the toxic dump economy that Carter left. That's what a robust recovery looks like.

BTW, worthless subprime loans almost destroyed the economy, not Bush. Ever heard of the CRA?


 

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  posted on 9/3/2014 at 08:59 PM
Obama owns everything, Bush owned nothing. Got it.

 

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So a Republican, George W. Bush, turned a surplus into the largest deficit in history, nearly destroyed the world's economy and you want me to be angry because that economy was turned around. A Democrat didn't do a good enough job fixing the toxic dump leftover from the Republican - so???


Not really, no. Check what Reagan did with the toxic dump economy that Carter left. That's what a robust recovery looks like.

BTW, worthless subprime loans almost destroyed the economy, not Bush. Ever heard of the CRA?




I love this. Problems with the VA are Obama's problem because he had 6 years to fix it. But problems Bush might have inherited are never his fault, even though he had 6 years to fix them. Got it.

 

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Is that the best you got Alloak? Don't you see the Party you support created the mess?



Oh, you bet!

I'll never forget the likes of Barney Frank and Maxine Waters sounding their repeated warnings, pleading for more stringent GSE oversight, tighter lending standards, factual credit reporting, traditional down payments, all down the line.

Nobody would listen.


Right.

 

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I love this. Problems with the VA are Obama's problem because he had 6 years to fix it. But problems Bush might have inherited are never his fault, even though he had 6 years to fix them. Got it.


Bush should have done what he could to get the subprime loan situation under control. Question is how much he would have been permitted to do about it

Probably not much. I mean, we're talking about a period where credit reports were considered "racist" by the opposing party.

 
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