Thread: New Original 6 pic

Jack - 10/6/2009 at 06:22 PM

Found this today at the Les Paul Forum , looks like about 1970-71 to me. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to location and who the 7th. man on stage is ? Looks a little cramped eh?


Haisija - 10/6/2009 at 06:22 PM

Nice one Jack.


BIGV - 10/6/2009 at 06:24 PM

Sweet, . . .always love to see these "new" old shots.


moemoe6434 - 10/6/2009 at 06:26 PM

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Found this today at the Les Paul Forum , looks like about 1970-71 to me. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to location and who the 7th. man on stage is ? Looks a little cramped eh?



LMAO.... WOW, that stage is REALLY cramped!


bluedad - 10/6/2009 at 06:28 PM

Nice Pic....

Looks like a High School Gym ....


rainy - 10/6/2009 at 06:32 PM

Oh MY... Love it.. Thanks for sharing...


TonyTyler - 10/6/2009 at 06:33 PM

Is the second guy Tom Douchette?


bluedad - 10/6/2009 at 06:35 PM

The amp line must be outside


Russvergara - 10/6/2009 at 06:35 PM

Love it !


Haisija - 10/6/2009 at 06:36 PM

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The amp line must be outside

Its hanging by a wire on the wall isn't it ?


SantaCruzBluz - 10/6/2009 at 06:39 PM

Looks like they're in Greece.

That is a tiny stage. The other guy isn't playing anything. Maybe that is the only place he had to stand.


JimSheridan - 10/6/2009 at 06:42 PM

The banner says "Collegii Muskingumensis - Novae Concordiae - Sigillum" - if you google that, you find one result, a company that sells pottery, and you can get a mug with that same message on it. That gets me nowhere. The pottery is called Hull, and there is a Hull University in England, but were the ABB in England with Duane?


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 06:43 PM

The seal above the stage is that of Muskingum University in New Concord, Ohio.


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 06:44 PM

quote:
The banner says "Collegii Muskingumensis - Novae Concordiae - Sigillum" - if you google that, you find one result, a company that sells pottery, and you can get a mug with that same message on it. That gets me nowhere. The pottery is called Hull, and there is a Hull University in England, but were the ABB in England with Duane?


I got that far, then Googled universities founded in 1837. That took a while!


Buppalo1 - 10/6/2009 at 06:44 PM

This is what Duane and these guys did. This is how they made known the new kind of music they created. There weren't that many clubs in those days, especially in the deep south. So much of the area was "dry." So Duane and his band took to the road, playing high school and college gyms, national guard armories, parks. He coulda' stayed in California, done things Liberty's way, coulda' stayed in the studio, helping make stars of others, laying back, getting regular checks. This is the path he chose. The band and the roadies made it happen. Nothing was given to them, there was no luck involved.


JimSheridan - 10/6/2009 at 06:52 PM

Muskingum University! freaking great


oldcoot - 10/6/2009 at 06:57 PM

Look at the banner behind the band. The latin (or possibly greek) phrases.

I googled the words and was first lead to a Hull College in the U.K. A site was selling a coffee mug with the exact wording on the banner.


Hull College Mug
Hull Ovenproof House n Garden Mirror Brown 3 1/2" mug has applied goldtone emblem reading "Collegii Muskingumensis - Novae Concordiae - Sigillum - Omni Tirium Perfectum - 1837"

However, since the original lineup didn't tour outside the U.S., further searches find a "James M. Hull College of Business" of the Augusta State University in Augusta, Georgia. That business school originally became an official branch of ASU in 1972. Obviously, Duane was gone by then.

It's possible that the concert could have been there prior to the business school becoming an official separately named entity.

May not have anything to do with it at all, but, tracking it to Augusta, GA makes one wonder if that isn't a solid connection.




oldcoot - 10/6/2009 at 07:00 PM

Wow, quite a few sleuths posted while I was working on mine.


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 07:02 PM

The motto of Muskingum University is "Omne Trinum Perfectum," which is in the triangle of that seal.

Then, of course, we have the word "Muskingumensis."

The Latin suffix "sis" is frequently used to describe the name of a university on a seal.


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 07:04 PM

Looks like New Concord is about exactly halfway between Columbus and Pittsburgh on I-70.


bluedad - 10/6/2009 at 07:06 PM

quote:
Look at the banner behind the band. The latin (or possibly greek) phrases.

I googled the words and was first lead to a Hull College in the U.K. A site was selling a coffee mug with the exact wording on the banner.


Hull College Mug
Hull Ovenproof House n Garden Mirror Brown 3 1/2" mug has applied goldtone emblem reading "Collegii Muskingumensis - Novae Concordiae - Sigillum - Omni Tirium Perfectum - 1837"

However, since the original lineup didn't tour outside the U.S., further searches find a "James M. Hull College of Business" of the Augusta State University in Augusta, Georgia. That business school originally became an official branch of ASU in 1972. Obviously, Duane was gone by then.

It's possible that the concert could have been there prior to the business school becoming an official separately named entity.

May not have anything to do with it at all, but, tracking it to Augusta, GA makes one wonder if that isn't a solid connection.






Interesting.....very interesting.

I need to check around with some of my older friends who live in the area. It is plausible since Augusta is two hours away from Macon....


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 07:09 PM

The set list database says they played two shows in Dayton in February 1970, that's also off I-70...


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 07:12 PM

BTW, "Hull" describes the type of pottery style that mug is made in...

I am a GOOGLING GOD!


oldcoot - 10/6/2009 at 07:12 PM

A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 07:13 PM

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A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Compellingly speaking, yes.


hughduty - 10/6/2009 at 07:19 PM

Very cool pic.,thanks for sharing....


BigDaveOnBass - 10/6/2009 at 07:25 PM

That would be cool if it was an Augusta, GA show, but from what I have read, it does sound more like it was one of the OH shows.

SWEET photo. Love the O6 the most.


oldcoot - 10/6/2009 at 07:26 PM

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A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Compellingly speaking, yes.


I recall a college yearbook photo or two, from Marietta College in Marietta, Ohio, where Luther Allison jammed with the Bros.. That was 10/16/71, one of Duane's last shows. They played Pittsburgh the night before. It's possible that the photo could be from a show right around this timeframe perhaps.


Bhawk - 10/6/2009 at 07:28 PM

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A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Compellingly speaking, yes.


I recall a college yearbook photo or two, from Marietta College in Marietta, Ohio, where Luther Allison jammed with the Bros.. That was 10/16/71, one of Duane's last shows. They played Pittsburgh the night before. It's possible that the photo could be from a show right around this timeframe perhaps.



Hmmm. Marietta is one hour south of New Concord on I-77. Hmmmm.


moemoe6434 - 10/6/2009 at 07:37 PM

I love how everyone back then sat down on the floor at shows....


skypup - 10/6/2009 at 07:51 PM

Ohio was guess too. There's probably some shows that aren't in the live show database. I know of one that was in Huntington,WV back around 1980. I was at the Huntington show, but I never could find it on the database.


DanaVClouser - 10/6/2009 at 08:44 PM

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The set list database says they played two shows in Dayton in February 1970, that's also off I-70...


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Those two shows here in Dayton were at Pappalaski's I believe.....could have hit Muskingham coming or going I 'spose. The 1971 Dayton appearrance--my first show--was here at Hara Arena on Sept. 18th, '71. The SUNY show was the next nite I believe....so they would have headed that direction potentially thru New Concorde but woulda been tuff to get a show in the middle seems to me. I'm trying to track down an old friend who went to Muskingham altho' it would have been in the late '70s....will advise.


SantaCruzBluz - 10/6/2009 at 09:00 PM

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Ohio was guess too. There's probably some shows that aren't in the live show database. I know of one that was in Huntington,WV back around 1980. I was at the Huntington show, but I never could find it on the database.


If you can figure out pretty close to when it was, PM Rowland and ask him about it. He has access to info that he can't publish until someone asks about it. I don't know why. But you should check.


DanaVClouser - 10/6/2009 at 09:02 PM

As I look at that picture...that doesn't seem a '71 shot.....certainly a late '71 anyway. At the Sept. '71 Dayton show....Dickey had his hair cut very short for one thing. It wouldn't have grown that long even in a month! Their 'garb' as such--and Duane's haircut--looks earlier than '71....just an opinion.

There are open dates in the database BEFORE the Feb. '70 Pappalaski's shows--4 to be exact and they come up from South Carolina....thus feasible for New Concorde. Also,perhaps more likely...they left Dayton with 3 open dates towards NYC and gigs at the Fillmore. Other Ohio options could have been around the Ludlow date(s) in early April of '70 and also in early May '70 when they hit the Northern part of the state. I sure tho't they played more than one 'stint' at the Ludlow/Cincy but only one go'round seems to be listed....that's a bit odd......

That latin on the logo above the stage to say essentially both Muskingham and New Concorde is pretty strong to consider another location.

[Edited on 10/6/2009 by DanaVClouser]


SantaCruzBluz - 10/6/2009 at 09:03 PM

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This is what Duane and these guys did. This is how they made known the new kind of music they created. There weren't that many clubs in those days, especially in the deep south. So much of the area was "dry." So Duane and his band took to the road, playing high school and college gyms, national guard armories, parks. He coulda' stayed in California, done things Liberty's way, coulda' stayed in the studio, helping make stars of others, laying back, getting regular checks. This is the path he chose. The band and the roadies made it happen. Nothing was given to them, there was no luck involved.


Thanks for posting that, Randy. Living around Macon in the early 70s, it was common knowledge that the original band played anywhere and everywhere they would let them. That's was long before any internet message boards, and everyone knew about them setting up in Central City Park on Sundays and playing for free.


SantaCruzBluz - 10/6/2009 at 09:05 PM

Looks like Bhawk nailed it down.

The extra person in the picture appears to be sitting down, with his hands folded. I bet he's the student that set the gig up. He got the best seat in the house.


KWidgeon - 10/6/2009 at 09:08 PM

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A lot of compelling info that it could be in Ohio.


Compellingly speaking, yes.


I recall a college yearbook photo or two, from Marietta College in Marietta, Ohio, where Luther Allison jammed with the Bros.. That was 10/16/71, one of Duane's last shows. They played Pittsburgh the night before. It's possible that the photo could be from a show right around this timeframe perhaps.


Wow! I would have LOVED to have seen that!


TanDan - 10/6/2009 at 09:13 PM

Butch would know where this show was, he reportedly has never missed a single show in the 40 years! My God, that is a record in anyone's book.

Butch would know.


SantaCruzBluz - 10/6/2009 at 09:17 PM

If anyone lives near Mansfield, Ohio, they have a copy of the 1970 Muskingum College yearbook at the Ohio Genealogical Society Library there. Too bad it isn't online.


BIGV - 10/6/2009 at 09:24 PM

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Butch would know where this show was, he reportedly has never missed a single show in the 40 years! My God, that is a record in anyone's book.

Butch would know.


Or, we could ask Randy. He's quite the detective!


Russvergara - 10/7/2009 at 01:34 AM

Hull Pottery is made in Ohio around Roseville. It was made there from the teens to the early twenties and may stll making it there.


DerekFromCincinnati - 10/7/2009 at 05:13 AM

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That would be cool if it was an Augusta, GA show, but from what I have read, it does sound more like it was one of the OH shows.



I agree. Ohio was big for the band, from the Ludlow Garage north.

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I know of one that was in Huntington,WV back around 1980. I was at the Huntington show, but I never could find it on the database.


I vaguely remember that gig in my old hometown. Where was it, Sky, in the old Fieldhouse across from Stewarts on 5th and 25th???? In 1980 I believe we made the bolt north to the infamous outdoor festival lineup Legend Valley gig near Columbus instead.


DanaVClouser - 10/7/2009 at 01:01 PM

Check this out boys & girls.....From the Public Relations office at Muskingam University in Ohio....

Dana, you have eagle eyes there....that is indeed the seal for Muskingum
College (now Muskingum University, note that the spelling has no h). I will
forward this to some other folks on campus. Thanks for sending the photo.
That's venue is the John Glenn (yes, named for our alumnus, the astronaut)
Gymnasium. In the 1980s, a new gym was built.

I'll do some research to see if I can find anything in a yearbook or other
archival document.

Thanks.

Janice McCloud
Office of Public Relations
Muskingum University

-----Original Message-----
From: Brodana@aol.com [mailto:Brodana@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:33 PM
To: jtucker
Subject: Historical event at Muskingham U.

Please refer to the e-mail header for the date and time of this request.

IP Address of sending computer: 64.12.117.70

Referring URL:
http://www.muskingum.edu/home/source/emailform/emailform.html

Name: Dana V. Clouser
E-mail: Brodana@aol.com
Subject: Historical event at Muskingham U.

Text of Message: Greetings:

I have stumbled across an historic 'mystery' very likely involving
Muskingham University. I am a dedicated fan of the legendary band--Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame members--The Allman Brothers Band. On their
website--Allmanbrothersband.com--a photo has been posted of a band
performance in the early 70's. The location of the photo is in debate. In
the performance photo, at the back of the stage in an auditorium, a banner
appears very clearly with a circular logo that reads in latin "Collegii Mus
k
ingumensis--Novae Concordiae--Sigillum". I enclose the link to this website
and the specific photo. (Copy/Paste)

http://allmanbrothers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=v iewthread
&fid=126&tid=98670&page=1&orderdate=

Can you verify if this is Muskingham's logo and/or if the photo perhaps
clearly depicts a university location where concerts may have been held in
the early 70's? Most fans feel altho' possibly a 1969 photo...very likely
1970 or perhaps early '71.

In addition, are there any records--dates, advertisements, etc.,--in regards
to the possible performance that you could find and share?

Allman Brothers Band fans--both young and old--(I'm 54!!!) are a dedicated
bunch of people and we can get a bit obsessed with the history of our
favorite band! I'm sure your office is a very busy one...but if someone
could give this a 'look--see'....you might be surprised what it could do for
'public relations' with the fans of this great American band!

Thank you for you time!

Dana Clouser
Kettering, Ohio








Peachypetewi - 10/7/2009 at 01:04 PM

When I saw original 6 I thought this was an NHL thread


BigDaveOnBass - 10/7/2009 at 01:07 PM

Nice work there, Dana!


curry - 10/7/2009 at 01:39 PM

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I love how everyone back then sat down on the floor at shows....


was this common in the 70's shows??

Dickey's stance looks soooo like Duane (Betts) in this pic.

[Edited on 10/7/2009 by curry]


Russvergara - 10/7/2009 at 01:40 PM

As were wippets and wine bags and............


DanaVClouser - 10/7/2009 at 01:41 PM

I had forgotten that John Glenn was from New Concorde....thus the Gym's name.


Haisija - 10/7/2009 at 01:46 PM

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was this common in the 70's shows??




It was at Cowtown Ballroom in Kansas City.


heineken515 - 10/7/2009 at 01:48 PM

I realize this is just one show and an anomaly probably on the stage "space" but I find it amusing that Dickey is in the back.

I won't say most, but ALOT of bands, the bass player is routinely relegated to "the back," certainly not front and center.

This just goes to show:

A. what Berry meant to this band
B. what a selfless individual Dickey was, not clamoring for the limelight

Or

C. all of my stupid ideas are WAY off and they flipped a coin or something.


hoochiecoochiegirl - 10/7/2009 at 02:40 PM

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Hull Pottery is made in Ohio around Roseville. It was made there from the teens to the early twenties and may stll making it there.


Both Hull Pottery and Roseville pottery are worth big bucks - check the bottom of your grandma's old vases - I was using one as a change jar when it got busted - later found out it worth like $700!!! Hull is usually brown like the pic - Roseville is floral and has raised flowers and handles a lot of time.


Russvergara - 10/7/2009 at 02:50 PM

I've got a hundred or so pieces of Roseville. I've been a collector of clay for a long time. Actually most Hull pieces are pastel blue and pink on an ivory background. Got any more of grandma's pottery? Just kidding.


Stephen - 10/7/2009 at 02:54 PM

Nice going Dana! Wow that's a cool photo -- what a treat


IPowrie - 10/7/2009 at 02:56 PM

Great pic


Rodess - 10/7/2009 at 02:57 PM

Dickey looks like Duane (Betts) here !


leftyblues - 10/7/2009 at 05:18 PM

holy crap...i am coming here in the future for ALL of my dectective needs..


rainy - 10/7/2009 at 05:24 PM

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Dickey looks like Duane (Betts) here !



Or Duane ( Betts ) looks like Dickey.... he really does, when I see them together, I do a double take.. No mistaken Dickey is the Daddy....


leftyblues - 10/7/2009 at 05:28 PM

by the way, if i am not mistaken the guy on the stage is Chuck Rickli..


PeachNutt - 10/7/2009 at 05:36 PM

could the 7th person be Bobby Caldwell?? Looks like a snare drum in front of him....


PeachNutt - 10/7/2009 at 05:37 PM

BTW - Great great find!!


PauliG - 10/7/2009 at 05:47 PM

quote:
I realize this is just one show and an anomaly probably on the stage "space" but I find it amusing that Dickey is in the back.

I won't say most, but ALOT of bands, the bass player is routinely relegated to "the back," certainly not front and center.

This just goes to show:

A. what Berry meant to this band
B. what a selfless individual Dickey was, not clamoring for the limelight

Or

C. all of my stupid ideas are WAY off and they flipped a coin or something.


I don't think there's anything behind that decision other than practicality. This pic looks (to me) to be earlier rather than later. Dickey didn't really sing with this band earlier on and Berry did. So Berry stood up front to access the mic. Duane did stage announcements so he was up by the mic (plus he sang on "Dimples"), Dickey didn't sing, so he stood in back.... I feel confident that the decision was based on something like that...


rainy - 10/7/2009 at 05:51 PM

HMMMMM... I have seen picture or pictures of Duane in the back... what did that mean... I am not a musician , but the space looks very tight and the sound is different to them on stage I would think .. so moving around alittle here and there maybe helps..

Hey we have lots of musicians on here.. what do you think ???

i know carpet helps with the sound.. sometimes wearing NO shoes....


BIGV - 10/7/2009 at 06:02 PM

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was this common in the 70's shows??




It was at Cowtown Ballroom in Kansas City.


At Winterland & the Cow Palace in S.F. as well, at least 'til the music started when everyone stood and pushed to the front. Back in those days it was referred to as "Festival" seating.


musicmann - 10/7/2009 at 06:07 PM

nice pic. Thanks for posting it


sunkel - 10/8/2009 at 12:09 AM

I think this was probably a 1970 show . New Concord , Ohio
is right on Interstate 70 , so if the band was headed for NYC ,
it's very possible they stopped here , along the way .
I live in the same county as Muskingum College (now Univ.)
and the school has hosted some decent concerts over the
years , for such a small school . In the 1970's , things in
this part of Ohio were fairly progressive , so I could definately
see a campus organization booking the Allmans to play the gym .
Great photo ! I'll bet they blasted away from that little stage !


jersey_devil - 10/8/2009 at 01:28 AM

I lived in New Concord OH from '78 to '80, worked for
NCR in nearby Cambridge. Then South Carolina in '80 and
Atlanta in '82. Remember visiting the library at Muskingum.


jersey_devil - 10/8/2009 at 04:05 PM

Or as I called it at the time

New Corncob


FootPattin - 10/8/2009 at 05:37 PM

That 7th guy looks a lot like Bobby Whitlock.


rainy - 10/8/2009 at 06:07 PM

quote:
Found this today at the Les Paul Forum , looks like about 1970-71 to me. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to location and who the 7th. man on stage is ? Looks a little cramped eh?




This is such a great find.... Elizabeth who is a dear and long time friend of Willie Perkins ( he also dedicated his book to her and his mom ) might know... she doesn't log in as much these days and she was a photo journalist and did alot of the picture research for Willie's book , No Saints, No Saviors .. I will send to her and maybe she can find out... who the guy is on stage...


mmertens - 10/8/2009 at 11:59 PM

Great picture and a great read. This is the type of thread that makes this place so fun to come to. Nice detective work!


fallscity48 - 8/16/2012 at 06:46 AM

Newbie to this great site & forum ... but very old ABB fan.
Sorry to dig up this old thread but while I was going thru the huge amount of info on this site, I ran across the photo & did a little exploring.
It "appears" the photo is from a April, 1970 gig at at tiny Muskingum College in Central Ohio.
See links below:

http://www.inthestudio.net/online-on-demand/allman-brothers-band-3/

http://www.west-fly-fishing.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Numb er=412242

In checking the concert database, I would assume the show would be in early April, around the time of the Ludlow Garage April 4th & 5th dates.
Hope this helps a little in dating the photo.

BTW, I'm going to be in Macon in mid September to see the Big House, Rose Hill Cemetery, H & H etc for this 1st time. Any other recommendations are most welcome!


njpaulc - 8/16/2012 at 12:52 PM

quote:
Newbie to this great site & forum ... but very old ABB fan.
Sorry to dig up this old thread but while I was going thru the huge amount of info on this site, I ran across the photo & did a little exploring.
It "appears" the photo is from a April, 1970 gig at at tiny Muskingum College in Central Ohio.
See links below:

http://www.inthestudio.net/online-on-demand/allman-brothers-band-3/

http://www.west-fly-fishing.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Numb er=412242


In checking the concert database, I would assume the show would be in early April, around the time of the Ludlow Garage April 4th & 5th dates.
Hope this helps a little in dating the photo.

BTW, I'm going to be in Macon in mid September to see the Big House, Rose Hill Cemetery, H & H etc for this 1st time. Any other recommendations are most welcome!





Boy those fly fishing know how to have a good time!!!


mistersnappy - 8/16/2012 at 07:59 PM

Equipment can be a good way to tell what time period this is:

Dickey is playing the goldtop Les Paul, which he began using exclusively at least as early as New Years Eve 1970, where he's shown at The Warehouse with it. Duane is still using the sunburst Les Paul with the Kluson tuners, so it is before the final Fillmore shows. The April '71 date seems likely because there are minimal (none?) leaves on the trees in the window= Spring in Ohio.

Re: Dickey's location on stage- he frequently stood behind/between the drummers in those days: you can see it on the Love Valley and ABC TV footage. They should have always had the drummers up front instead of hidden behind all the amps, but thats a whole other kettle of fish...

[Edited on 8/16/2012 by mistersnappy]


mistersnappy - 8/21/2012 at 02:49 PM

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Equipment can be a good way to tell what time period this is:

Dickey is playing the goldtop Les Paul, which he began using exclusively at least as early as New Years Eve 1970, where he's shown at The Warehouse with it. Duane is still using the sunburst Les Paul with the Kluson tuners, so it is before the final Fillmore shows. The April '71 date seems likely because there are minimal (none?) leaves on the trees in the window= Spring in Ohio.

Re: Dickey's location on stage- he frequently stood behind/between the drummers in those days: you can see it on the Love Valley and ABC TV footage. They should have always had the drummers up front instead of hidden behind all the amps, but thats a whole other kettle of fish...

[Edited on 8/16/2012 by mistersnappy]


Also--the length of Dickey's hair. Was his hair that long in April 1970? I thought it wasn't longer until 1971, but I could be wrong. Now I don't feel so certain that we have the date correct...which means the location could be wrong as well..



Dickey's hair got progressively longer -no way is that 1970. Look even at the Sept '70 Fillmore footage- his hair is even shorter than this. I would love to know, however, when and where he got that Darkback Goldtop.

More equipment trivia: in '69 and thru most of '70, they used quite an array of Fender amps and cabs in addition to the Marshalls. By '71, they had pared all that down to the classic, in my opinion, two 100watt Marshall heads with two 4x12 cabs for Dickey and the two 50watt heads and one 4x12 cab for Duane.

From the College:
http://www.muskingum.edu/~bandm/108_24/seal.html "A scroll over some of the light rays reads 1837, recording the year the college was founded. Encircling these symbols is the Latin words "Sigillum Collegii Muskingumensis Novae Concordiae" which translates as "Sign of Muskingum College at New Concord""


The_Newt - 12/26/2016 at 11:15 PM

This pic was posted on facebook today in an Allmans group, we were trying to figure out what the date is or who took it. Does anyone here know?


ladymule - 12/27/2016 at 05:22 AM

@Jack...miss you Bro. RIP. <3

http://www.dragbike.com/person-of-the-week-jack-learment/



[Edited on 12/27/2016 by ladymule]


CanadianMule - 12/27/2016 at 02:23 PM

The first thing I noticed when coming to the forum today was Jack's name. Great picture - thanks very much. Such a great guy, really miss him.


ladymule - 12/27/2016 at 08:13 PM

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The first thing I noticed when coming to the forum today was Jack's name. Great picture - thanks very much. Such a great guy, really miss him.


From the dragbike article on Jack: "Heroes: My father Don Learment , Elmer Trett & Duane Allman."




Lee - 12/27/2016 at 08:22 PM

I really miss Jack. I remember meeting him for the first time at an ABB show outside of Detroit. I think the last time several of us saw him was at the Niagara Falls shows in 2006.

Great guy. Very wonderful soul.


relsberg - 4/3/2020 at 01:10 PM

sorry to be late to the party here. But I was a student at Muskingum College in 1971 and went to the concert that you see in the picture. There may have been 700 Students there. Everyone was in some make-shift bleachers set up in the gym for the concert. And we came and set on the floor. Once the band started to play people started to migrate to the floor as you can see in the picture. At the first break, Leon (the guy that booked them for $7K to play) took us to the back door where they were hanging outside and we got to meet them. The concert was a life-changing experience. really unbelievable. peace.


Rusty - 4/3/2020 at 08:45 PM

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sorry to be late to the party here. But I was a student at Muskingum College in 1971 and went to the concert that you see in the picture. There may have been 700 Students there. Everyone was in some make-shift bleachers set up in the gym for the concert. And we came and set on the floor. Once the band started to play people started to migrate to the floor as you can see in the picture. At the first break, Leon (the guy that booked them for $7K to play) took us to the back door where they were hanging outside and we got to meet them. The concert was a life-changing experience. really unbelievable. peace.


Thanks for sharing and for resurrecting this thread! Reading back and seeing those posts from a few that are now gone. Sweet stuff.


BIGV - 4/3/2020 at 09:08 PM

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There may have been 700 Students there


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the guy that booked them for $7K to play


Semantics, I know.....But the numbers do not add up. What was the average ticket price for an ABB show in 1970?..$3?

Do the math.


piacere - 4/3/2020 at 11:12 PM

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There may have been 700 Students there


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the guy that booked them for $7K to play


Semantics, I know.....But the numbers do not add up. What was the average ticket price for an ABB show in 1970?..$3?

Do the math.



I'm pretty sure at colleges/universities its free for the students, et al. The money to pay the band comes from student activity fees and such.

[Edited on 4/3/2020 by piacere]


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