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  posted on 12/3/2019 at 08:17 PM
I'll be dumbfounded.
Can Americans really be that stupid twice?
Once I can understand but twice is a indictment of the education system.

 

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  posted on 12/3/2019 at 09:15 PM
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I'll be dumbfounded.
Can Americans really be that stupid twice?
Once I can understand but twice is a indictment of the education system.


I do believe he will indeed win again unfortunately, but I don't see it as an issue of intelligence or eduction. I think he won in 2016 because the popular vote is an accurate representation of what America wants. I think he'll receive the same amount of votes from the same states to again win the electoral. Why so many people believe he is worthy of such a position is its own thread.

What will I do? Continue to avoid cable news and Twitter, get back into my waders and tackle box, and focus more on my family and work. Creating distance between yourself and the circus reduces its significance greatly.


 

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  posted on 12/3/2019 at 10:11 PM
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WHAT WILL YOU DO IF DONALD J TRUMP WINS THE ELECTION IN 2020?
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Sh!t a blue brick, head for the border
& leave the country
Only I wonít be able to
Thereís a wall there


[Edited on 12/4/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 12/3/2019 at 10:19 PM
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I'll be dumbfounded.
Can Americans really be that stupid twice?
Once I can understand but twice is a indictment of the education system.


LOL, we elected George Dubya Bush twice so why would Trump getting re-elected again surprise you

 

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  posted on 12/3/2019 at 11:01 PM
If he wins, Iíd offer congrats - w/condemnation heaped on him on a daily basis, he still prevailed
Is the condemnation deservedj? Mostly I donít think so, no re elected president will have endured such scathing hate - it will have proven to be no more than hot air, brainless bluster & an impeachment process that cost million$$ for nothing

The scathing indictment IMO would be of an out of control media that demands to be ignored

Itís not much different from Boston sports teams - the hating they get in some quarters, is shot down by the support they get in road games (Pats/Sox/Bís)

Thatís why I think incumbent Trump has a shot at re election - popular opinion aside, he has more supporters than people think

 

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  posted on 12/3/2019 at 11:16 PM
Same exact thing I have done in response to any election: Nothing.
 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 12:02 AM
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Same exact thing I have done in response to any election: Nothing.


I was just going to post the exact same thing. Potentially support policy, potentially criticize it.

Same thing if Trump is impeached, what am I going to do, nothing. If that is the decision that Congress sees fit, fine. If they don't, fine. It's their job to do it or not to do it, not mine.

We choose the representatives and President. Once they are there, they run the show unless those with power to overrule or remove choose to act as the system allows.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 01:24 AM
I will live my life as I always have, wondering where this country went wrong.
 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 06:00 AM
If Trump is reelected, I will occasionally glance at Canadian real estate listings - wishing that the weather there was just a little warmer during winter months.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 07:55 AM
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Is the condemnation deservedj? Mostly I donít think so, no re elected president will have endured such scathing hate - it will have proven to be no more than hot air, brainless bluster & an impeachment process that cost million$$ for nothing


This is the exact reason why he will win again in 2020, and probably win by an even wider margain than in 2016. There are just as many Stephens as there are Trump haters. The worse he behaves, the more they love him - it's that simple. So there isn't any news that could come out that would make them change their minds. He could openly admit to anything, and none of it would matter. They'd love him more. You guys need to understand this.

On a side note, it's beyond cowardly to position Trump as some victim that has "endured scathing hate" when he attacks other Americans on Twitter everyday looking for a fight - give me a break. There is nothing normal or appropriate about his behavior from day one. The condemnation is more than deserved because he wants it. He craves it, and needs it to survive. Without haters condemning him in the media everyday, he has nothing and his voters would be bored of him.

If Trump all of a sudden became a nice guy, stopped Tweeting, stopped his criticism of Democrats, and followed all the rules, then Trump supporters would abandon him in 2 seconds.


 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 10:17 AM
Itís all very complex - canít grasp the notion of his ďcraving condemnation, b/c w/out it heíd be nothingĒ

The rapes, the accusations of racism, the ongoing effort of reporting things to make him look like a calculating conniving barbaric demonic deranged sniveling skunk - this is what I balk against -

In short I root for the underdog - at this early time thatís what it looks like to me in the election, even w/no viable opponent as yet

[Edited on 12/4/2019 by Stephen]

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 10:53 AM
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. . .calculating conniving barbaric demonic deranged skunk . . .


Yep




 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 12:35 PM
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Is the condemnation deservedj? Mostly I donít think so, no re elected president will have endured such scathing hate - it will have proven to be no more than hot air, brainless bluster & an impeachment process that cost million$$ for nothing


This is the exact reason why he will win again in 2020, and probably win by an even wider margain than in 2016. There are just as many Stephens as there are Trump haters. The worse he behaves, the more they love him - it's that simple. So there isn't any news that could come out that would make them change their minds. He could openly admit to anything, and none of it would matter. They'd love him more. You guys need to understand this.

On a side note, it's beyond cowardly to position Trump as some victim that has "endured scathing hate" when he attacks other Americans on Twitter everyday looking for a fight - give me a break. There is nothing normal or appropriate about his behavior from day one. The condemnation is more than deserved because he wants it. He craves it, and needs it to survive. Without haters condemning him in the media everyday, he has nothing and his voters would be bored of him.

If Trump all of a sudden became a nice guy, stopped Tweeting, stopped his criticism of Democrats, and followed all the rules, then Trump supporters would abandon him in 2 seconds.




His persona is based upon hate & picking a daily fight. The list is endless from gold star parents, to congressmen & women, to civil rights activisits, to members of his own admin who have departed him, and on & on. Just yesterday it was Macron at NATO.

This should be below the dignity of the Office Of Presidency, but he has made it normalized. Nobody blinks because it's just Donald being Donald. What an embarassment we have running the country.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 12:41 PM
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What an embarassment we have ruining the country.


Fixed that for ya!

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 02:36 PM
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canít grasp the notion of his ďcraving condemnation, b/c w/out it heíd be nothingĒ


You don't think he knows it's wrong to bully and harrass Americans everyday on Twitter and television? He's intentionally divisive and hostile, and then thrives on playing the victim card when criticized. Did you read the Helsinki transcript I posted? He's the victim because nobody is looking at Hillary's emails - to put a dysfunctional and reckless mind like that in the office of the presidency, will go down as one of the darkest moments in U.S. history.

 

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Ask that no more illegal surveillance of Americans occurs. The harassment just has to stop. The sabotage and subterfuge has to stop. Millions of Americans are being harassed behind their backs and finding their lives in ruin. I thought that once Comey and Mueller moved on, it would stop, but it has not. I will not get on the soapbox today but that will be something I want to see if Trump wins the election. Maybe I should work on the re-election campaign.

I remember Al Gore saying he wanted an end to harassment and the way he said it, it was clear he understands what that means politically.

America will not be great with the gulog surveillance of people going on, the FBI sending trojan horses into people's computers and breaking into their email. What is worse is now the CIA is actually sending them on assignments for them, they have joined forces. Blackwater was bad enough. Maybe the agencies need to be revamped and separated, before some of them realize they have heeded the call to corruption unknowingly.

Look at Whistleblower, is he just a zealous patriot who felt he had to do something about a perceived wrong, or was he a plant sent in by an oppositional political party to do their bidding, knowingly or compartmentally kept in the dark?



 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 07:41 PM
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Can Americans really be that stupid twice?


They were not foolish enough to place Hillary in the White House.

We'll call it a draw.

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 10:17 PM
To those who think he will be elected again, can I pose a question?

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania do not a have a recent history of going red - Trump was able to flip those states. If he were to get more support in these states, I think he might win again. But I'm of the opinion the voter turnout for the Democrats coupled with some D and I voters that went for Trump who won't do so again now means those states go blue again. You?

If those 3 states went Blue in 2016 Hillary Clinton is President with 278 electoral votes to Trump's 260.

[Edited on 12/5/2019 by nebish]

 

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  posted on 12/4/2019 at 11:10 PM
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Can Americans really be that stupid twice?


They were not foolish enough to place Hillary in the White House.

We'll call it a draw.


The info about 2016 electoral votes in the blue/red states & how it could apply to this election.....

She May Run Yet - sheíll size up the field as it thins out, gauge her own support vs the remaining field, examine if Trump is more vulnerable now than in 2016 -

Like a key 6th man, her entering would change the complexion of the game
Enough to win it this time? Ah but there lies the rub, aka, that friends is why they play the games

If she did, itíd be 3 candidates in their 70s - itíd be a first (maybe)
Bernie tho, I dunno - great man, too old IMHO
Joe B.....a little less elderly.....& possibly, Clinton


 

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To those who think he will be elected again, can I pose a question?

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania do not a have a recent history of going red - Trump was able to flip those states. If he were to get more support in these states, I think he might win again. But I'm of the opinion the voter turnout for the Democrats coupled with some D and I voters that went for Trump who won't do so again now means those states go blue again. You?

If those 3 states went Blue in 2016 Hillary Clinton is President with 278 electoral votes to Trump's 260.

[Edited on 12/5/2019 by nebish]


I view it the same way you do. Unless the Democrats pick somebody so far left that the swing voters can't accept him/her, then I don't see those states going to Trump again. I also don't think we will get another Bernie or Bust situation again, although Democrats do seem to find a way to blow it. The current talk of the Republicans cutting Social Security and Medicare probably won't help them win Florida, with all the retirees they have there, and we all know how close Florida usually is. If Trump wins, I think it will be another case of the Democrats finding a way to blow it more than anything else. Trumps popularity has been steady at right around 40% for most of his presidency, and that doesn't seem to change no matter what good or bad thing happen. I'm going to guess that that 40% is what he will have around election time. No way does he win the popular vote, but all the matters is the vote in a half dozen swing states. I'd say it's possible he can win again, but not likely.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2019 at 02:37 AM
He will likely resign in 2020.
 

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But I'm of the opinion the voter turnout for the Democrats coupled with some D and I voters that went for Trump who won't do so again now means those states go blue again. You?


I donít agree with this. I donít believe Trump flipped states because of the Independent swing voters. If that were the case, then the polls wouldíve shown that. Why were the polls wrong? Because Trump woke up all the politically disillusioned inactive people who feel the same way Stephen and Fujirich feel, who came out in droves to vote for him. I believe voter turnout will be at an all time high, with both sides coming out in droves to vote. And I believe Trump will take the same states as in 2016.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2019 at 10:23 AM
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But I'm of the opinion the voter turnout for the Democrats coupled with some D and I voters that went for Trump who won't do so again now means those states go blue again. You?


I donít agree with this. I donít believe Trump flipped states because of the Independent swing voters. If that were the case, then the polls wouldíve shown that. Why were the polls wrong? Because Trump woke up all the politically disillusioned inactive people who feel the same way Stephen and Fujirich feel, who came out in droves to vote for him. I believe voter turnout will be at an all time high, with both sides coming out in droves to vote. And I believe Trump will take the same states as in 2016.


Trump was elected (didn't say, "won") because the Democrats decided to run the only person in the world unpopular enough to lose to him. I seriously hope they learned from this.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2019 at 10:49 AM
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But I'm of the opinion the voter turnout for the Democrats coupled with some D and I voters that went for Trump who won't do so again now means those states go blue again. You?


I donít agree with this. I donít believe Trump flipped states because of the Independent swing voters. If that were the case, then the polls wouldíve shown that. Why were the polls wrong? Because Trump woke up all the politically disillusioned inactive people who feel the same way Stephen and Fujirich feel, who came out in droves to vote for him. I believe voter turnout will be at an all time high, with both sides coming out in droves to vote. And I believe Trump will take the same states as in 2016.


Trump certainly has his fans, but the election was very close in those states. We know that Trump got some votes in 2016 from voters he won't get in 2020 (just look at nebish right here in this thread). I don't think Trump will pick up many new supporters. Unless a third candidate comes in to split the vote, or unless we have another Bernie or Bust situation again, I can't imagine Trump winning again. Just look at the last election in Pennsylvania, the Democrats picked up districts that have been Republican for decades. Of course I could be wrong.

 

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  posted on 12/5/2019 at 11:59 AM
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WHAT WILL YOU DO IF DONALD J TRUMP WINS THE ELECTION IN 2020?


Shake my head, laugh, get on with my life.

The outcome either way will not surprise me in any way.

 

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