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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 08:20 AM
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasnít been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still


Couldn't you see this happening between CNN and Fox News after 9/11? I hope you aren't just realizing this now because Trump is tweeting about it. More importantly, it's quite easy to avoid fake news - it's easy to spot, and easy to find legit news outlets. It's a personal choice to pay attention to the tabloids. It's only an issue today because fighting and drama is what a large portion of our country wants. They don't want non-biased reporting of facts. The good news, is that these folks who eat it up, make competition in the workforce a lot easier.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 02:02 PM
"Fake News" is fake news. A disinfo buzzword that operates in much the same way as "conspiracy theory". A post-hypnotic trigger word to shut down all thought process related to the question. Highly effective voluntary self-induced mind control tactic.
 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 02:06 PM
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasnít been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still


It then becomes up to us to find the right answers.

Anyone who wants to follow politics right now, you don't need CNN or Fox or MSNBC. Check this list...

Trump's twitter feed
White House webpage - Speeches and press releases
C-SPAN
thomas.gov (the Congressional Record)

...and all the answers are there.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 02:10 PM
Exactly man, catch the turds while they are fresh and steamin from the presidential fanus.
 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 02:28 PM
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasnít been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still


It then becomes up to us to find the right answers.

Anyone who wants to follow politics right now, you don't need CNN or Fox or MSNBC. Check this list...

Trump's twitter feed
White House webpage - Speeches and press releases
C-SPAN
thomas.gov (the Congressional Record)

...and all the answers are there.


Agreed 100%, CSpan. also the WSJournal - hearing direct communiques from the White House via his tweets, while wrong to some, Iím all for - havenít been to the WHouse webpage or Thomas.gov - thx!

 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 03:37 PM
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasnít been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still


It then becomes up to us to find the right answers.

Anyone who wants to follow politics right now, you don't need CNN or Fox or MSNBC. Check this list...

Trump's twitter feed
White House webpage - Speeches and press releases
C-SPAN
thomas.gov (the Congressional Record)

...and all the answers are there.


You forgot the official White House briefings...except they no longer exist. The latest press secretary, Stephanie Grisham has held zero I believe. But she has plenty of time to run to FOX. Hopefully when we get a new president, normalcy in briefings will begin again following Spicer, Sanders, and invisible Grisham.

"White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has yet to hold a briefing with reporters, but finds time for Fox News"

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/11/media/stephanie-grisham-briefings-fox/index. html


 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 05:20 PM
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White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham has yet to hold a briefing with reporters . . .


All other admins had daily briefings. Going on a year since this White House had one. They've gone rogue. Slammed the door in our face - who here is good with that?

Oh wait, that's right the snowflake dictator didn't allow no sass or lip, couldn't handle a simple press briefing wehhh-wehhhh snivel gripe grunt the reporters were meanies, why, why they actually wanted to know what we was up to ! The nerve!!! How we sposed to tell em what we are doing IF WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE DOING? To hell with Fake News, let's just NOT TELL EM A DAMN THING!!!



 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 08:32 PM
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So the president is fined $2 million dollars for stealing from a charity, and it hardly makes the news and nobody seems to care. Meanwhile Trump and his cult members continue to complain about how unfair the media is to him. Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!


I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.


Thanks for the links BrerRabbit and 2112.

 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 09:41 PM
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I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.

Old news. This goes back to the dissolution of The Trump Foundation in 2018 for funneling $ to his campaign, paying off TO debts, & buying a portrait for his club = stealing aka misappropriation. Despite vowing to fight the charges, Trump ADMITTED WRONGDOING & settled the case last month and was approved by a judge last week. The $2mm in damages is in addition to whatever was left in the Fund & will be paid to 7 non-profits unrelated to any of the Trumps.

The concession from the NYS AG was that Trump isn't barred from ever running a non-profit again & the 3 Ivana kids are allowed to serve on non-profit boards after taking "training."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/nyregion/trump-charities-new-york.html?s earchResultPosition=1

 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 10:09 PM
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Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

JFK assassination - that was the point of no return

IMO it all went horribly wrong in Vietnam. Daily lies to the public became the norm. Worse, less than 20 years after the end of the war (58,000+ died), the US lifted its ban on tourism there (1992). Luxury tour operators have been making $$$$ with 2019 expect to perform even better than 2018. Marriott has a luxury island hotel w/butler for each room & daily champagne breakfasts. Why were we there again?

1968 was when things went off the rails - MLK, RFK assassinations, Chicago Dem Convention, Columbia Univ protests - culminating in Nixon's win.


 

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  posted on 11/11/2019 at 10:43 PM
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Worse, less than 20 years after the end of the war (58,000+ died), the US lifted its ban on tourism there (1992)


???? I don't get this at all! Am headed there next year, #1 on bucket list - been saving looking forward to it for 20 years. Great place, good people, beautiful landscapes, good food, love the music, literature, fascinating history - even learning a bit of the language. Interested to hear why you think Americans should not be allowed to travel to Viet Nam?

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 07:30 PM
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Where did we go wrong? This is truly madness!

JFK assassination - that was the point of no return

IMO it all went horribly wrong in Vietnam. Daily lies to the public became the norm. Worse, less than 20 years after the end of the war (58,000+ died), the US lifted its ban on tourism there (1992). Luxury tour operators have been making $$$$ with 2019 expect to perform even better than 2018. Marriott has a luxury island hotel w/butler for each room & daily champagne breakfasts. Why were we there again?

1968 was when things went off the rails - MLK, RFK assassinations, Chicago Dem Convention, Columbia Univ protests - culminating in Nixon's win.



Not to forget Dan Rather being pummeled and pushed to the ground at the Dem convention.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 08:06 PM
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Interested to hear why you think Americans should not be allowed to travel to Viet Nam?

It's a perfectly fine place to travel.

My point - in response to "where did it all go wrong question" - is that Vietnam ripped the country apart (sort of MAGA v. Dems x 100), 3-4 prez lied to the US as to why we were there & that we were "winning," & vets were treated like lesser mortals upon return. 15 or so years later, it's like "Turns out saving South Vietnam WASN'T so important to global democracy that we needed to stay there until hell froze over; let's go over there & party down because there are all kinds of biz opportunities."

Now - 50 years later - it's just another tourist destination.


 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 08:29 PM
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I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.

Old news. This goes back to the dissolution of The Trump Foundation in 2018 for funneling $ to his campaign, paying off TO debts, & buying a portrait for his club = stealing aka misappropriation. Despite vowing to fight the charges, Trump ADMITTED WRONGDOING & settled the case last month and was approved by a judge last week. The $2mm in damages is in addition to whatever was left in the Fund & will be paid to 7 non-profits unrelated to any of the Trumps.

The concession from the NYS AG was that Trump isn't barred from ever running a non-profit again & the 3 Ivana kids are allowed to serve on non-profit boards after taking "training."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/nyregion/trump-charities-new-york.html?s earchResultPosition=1


You'd think this alone would be enough to sway many people not to vote for him, but instead it's just a normalcy of what is expected from Trump along with racism, subverting our intel agencies & the DOJ, playing up to Russia, the shenanigans in Ukraine, closing down the government, trade tariffs, etc.

All good actions and all fine with his supporters.

 

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  posted on 11/12/2019 at 08:50 PM
It's a perfectly fine place to travel.

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My point - in response to "where did it all go wrong question" - is that Vietnam ripped the country apart (sort of MAGA v. Dems x 100), 3-4 prez lied to the US as to why we were there & that we were "winning," & vets were treated like lesser mortals upon return. 15 or so years later, it's like "Turns out saving South Vietnam WASN'T so important to global democracy that we needed to stay there until hell froze over; let's go over there & party down because there are all kinds of biz opportunities."

Now - 50 years later - it's just another tourist destination.


I get your angle now - good points.

 

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Despite vowing to fight the charges, Trump ADMITTED WRONGDOING & settled the case last month and was approved by a judge last week.

You'd think this alone would be enough to sway many people not to vote for him, but instead it's just a normalcy of what is expected from Trump along with racism, subverting our intel agencies & the DOJ, playing up to Russia, the shenanigans in Ukraine, closing down the government, trade tariffs, etc.

All good actions and all fine with his supporters.


Trump knows his base - he could shoot a gun on 5th Ave & he'd be praised. [I suppose he'll change that line to Worth Ave now that he's moved to FL.]

What's truly maddening - saying this as a lifelong Dem - is that even if an "anyone but Hillary" voter was willing to vote against him, the Dems haven't come up w/a palatable candidate. I refused to pay any attention to the 2020 election until Nov. 2019 because it's boring (to me) to watch a string of people prance & implode until someone there's someone legit. Now that the time is here, I'm going to have to postpone my attention to August & the convention to prevent brain damage.




 

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  posted on 11/13/2019 at 11:36 AM
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The advent of numerous news outlets hasnít been helpful - they have to compete for higher ratings than the others & in that ongoing quest for viewers/listeners & $$$$, information becomes slanted, skewed, sensationalized & ultimately inaccurate IMO - not always but too often still


Couldn't you see this happening between CNN and Fox News after 9/11? I hope you aren't just realizing this now because Trump is tweeting about it. More importantly, it's quite easy to avoid fake news - it's easy to spot, and easy to find legit news outlets. It's a personal choice to pay attention to the tabloids. It's only an issue today because fighting and drama is what a large portion of our country wants. They don't want non-biased reporting of facts. The good news, is that these folks who eat it up, make competition in the workforce a lot easier.



You canít miss the tabloids standing in the checkout line, theyíre always good for a chuckle - recent copy showed an upset garish looking Joan Collins, headline ďJoan To Sue Plastic Surgeon After Botched Facelift,Ē w/tears coming down a face that looked like a billy goat had chewed on it

Theyíve always thrived, but yes, these are strange times we live in



 

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  posted on 11/14/2019 at 12:47 AM
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I haven't seen anything on the news, so I'd like to find out which charity he allegedly) stole from. Please post link.

Old news. This goes back to the dissolution of The Trump Foundation in 2018 for funneling $ to his campaign, paying off TO debts, & buying a portrait for his club = stealing aka misappropriation. Despite vowing to fight the charges, Trump ADMITTED WRONGDOING & settled the case last month and was approved by a judge last week. The $2mm in damages is in addition to whatever was left in the Fund & will be paid to 7 non-profits unrelated to any of the Trumps.

The concession from the NYS AG was that Trump isn't barred from ever running a non-profit again & the 3 Ivana kids are allowed to serve on non-profit boards after taking "training."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/nyregion/trump-charities-new-york.html?s earchResultPosition=1


You'd think this alone would be enough to sway many people not to vote for him, but instead it's just a normalcy of what is expected from Trump along with racism, subverting our intel agencies & the DOJ, playing up to Russia, the shenanigans in Ukraine, closing down the government, trade tariffs, etc.

All good actions and all fine with his supporters.
I think a second Great Depression may convince some of these idiot maga morons, but I'm not counting on it.

 
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