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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 08:37 AM
We say the drone was in international waters, I've heard as much as "21 miles" outside of Iranian airspace. The Iranians say it was in their airspace, and no surprise, so do the Russians.

I think the President made the right decision to call off the retaliatory air strike. Might end up being the best decision of his time in office. Because it wouldn't stop there. Iran (or their affiliates) strike back, we strike back, and it's just a mess.

I would be quite happy is this is as close as this thing gets and everything cools down from here.

 
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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 11:26 AM
I agree that he did the right thing as well and I think he did it for the right reason. I also think that Iran wants us to attack and that they will provoke us to do so eventually. The restraint we showed will allow us to respond appropriately IF that does happen. Have mercy on them if it does.

We gave them one chance by writing of the drone as a possible mistake. The next one will likely have severe consequences. I hope it doesn't happen. Trump doesn't want war with Iran but he WILL do it if he has too.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 12:29 PM
Yet another Trump created mess he can't get himself out of.....The guy is simply a tool of the Hawks in and out of Congress, the Israeli's, and the Saudi Royal family.

He should have never pulled out of the treaty, but of course the aforementioned interests wanted him to do so. And so here we are.....

The only relatively bright thing he did was blink and not engage with our military....I assume that's because the Pentagon were the last people to speak with him and not John Bolton, or Netty, or the Royal Prince ...

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 12:38 PM
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The only relatively bright thing he did was blink and not engage with our military
Sounds like this was hard for you to say. BTW it totally contradicts this..
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The guy is simply a tool of the Hawks in and out of Congress, the Israeli's, and the Saudi Royal family

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 12:59 PM
Just shows how behind the times Iran is that they called Trump the "r-word."
 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 01:37 PM
This is a crisis created by trump. Like an idiot who starts a dumpster fire, pisses on it, then crows about himself being a hero.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 08:13 PM
This sums it up nicely for me, a recent quote about Trump:

QUOOTE Kissinger, Dec. 18, 2016: Donald Trump is a phenomenon that foreign countries havenít seen.

So it is a shocking experience to them that he came into office, at the same time, extraordinary opportunity. And I believe he has the possibility of going down in history as a very considerable president, because every country now has two things to consider, one, their perception that the previous president or the outgoing president basically withdrew America from international politics, so that they had to make their own assessment of their necessities, and, secondly, that here is a new president who is asking a lot of unfamiliar questions.

And because of the combination of the partial vacuum and the new questions, one could imagine that something remarkable and new emerges out of it. Iím not saying it will. Iím saying itís an extraordinary opportunity.UNQUOTE

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 08:22 PM
Trump is the first US president to be called "an idiot" "dotard" & "mentally retarded". By his own cabinet appointees and foreign leaders.
 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 08:24 PM
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Trump is the first US president to be called "an idiot" "dotard" & "mentally retarded". By his own cabinet appointees and foreign leaders.


...and somehow he managed to outfox the Clinton machine and send Hillary home !!!!!

 

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Trump is the first US president to be called "an idiot" "dotard" & "mentally retarded". By his own cabinet appointees and foreign leaders.


...and somehow he managed to outfox the Clinton machine and send Hillary home !!!!!
By **** ting and conning a bunch of gullible and stupid people, how many will fall for it again?.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 08:40 PM

The democrats have it locked up this year. No one is voting for Trump. I saw a recent poll Elizabeth Warren would come out on top in Texas. Continue to bash the Orange man and compare detention centers to concentration camps. Just promise free stuff. This strategy is working.


https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/early-presidential-poll-shows-that-te xas-may-be-in-play-in-2020/

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 08:50 PM
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Trump is the first US president to be called "an idiot" "dotard" & "mentally retarded". By his own cabinet appointees and foreign leaders.


...and somehow he managed to outfox the Clinton machine and send Hillary home !!!!!


I'll bet you're proud of the Helsinki moment & Trump boasting of love letters from KJU. Those are actions that make Trump such a force on the world stage? What Americans would take pride in his actions such as these?

 

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I think Nebish was looking for more substance than "pissing in a dumpster"

back to Iran- What do average Americans really know about this country? Not much. I can remember Carters inability to get a deal, Regan basically saying "I have a bigger button than you and I am not afraid to use it" Other than that, hearing about numerous small uprisings, "Death to America" chants, Israel hatred. and oil price spikes.

When Obama was POTUS Iran embarassed the US with their capture and humiliation of Navy soldiers. This kind of Iranian action is clearly no longer going to be tolerated. Keep the pressure on economically. The EU is no longer their lifeline. This is due to Trump leadership.

 

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I think Nebish was looking for more substance than "pissing in a dumpster"

back to Iran- What do average Americans really know about this country? Not much. I can remember Carters inability to get a deal, Regan basically saying "I have a bigger button than you and I am not afraid to use it" Other than that, hearing about numerous small uprisings, "Death to America" chants, Israel hatred. and oil price spikes.

When Obama was POTUS Iran embarassed the US with their capture and humiliation of Navy soldiers. This kind of Iranian action is clearly no longer going to be tolerated. Keep the pressure on economically. The EU is no longer their lifeline. This is due to Trump leadership.
I guess a simple to understand analogy goes way over your head "no surprise" there was no crisis with Iran, trump created it.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 09:21 PM
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Trump is the first US president to be called "an idiot" "dotard" & "mentally retarded". By his own cabinet appointees and foreign leaders.


...and somehow he managed to outfox the Clinton machine and send Hillary home !!!!!


I'll bet you're proud of the Helsinki moment & Trump boasting of love letters from KJU. Those are actions that make Trump such a force on the world stage? What Americans would take pride in his actions such as these?


None of that matters to me at all.

 

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I think Nebish was looking for more substance than "pissing in a dumpster"

back to Iran- What do average Americans really know about this country? Not much. I can remember Carters inability to get a deal, Regan basically saying "I have a bigger button than you and I am not afraid to use it" Other than that, hearing about numerous small uprisings, "Death to America" chants, Israel hatred. and oil price spikes.

When Obama was POTUS Iran embarassed the US with their capture and humiliation of Navy soldiers. This kind of Iranian action is clearly no longer going to be tolerated. Keep the pressure on economically. The EU is no longer their lifeline. This is due to Trump leadership.


I have a totally different memory of Reagan's policy toward Iran. I seem to remember Reagan illegally selling Iran arms and deverting the funds to terrorists in Central America. Maybe I am remembering that wrong, but I don't think so.

So Iran is now enriching uranium again now that the US has pulled out of the nuclear agreement. This is all on Trump. Maybe you can explain to me exactly this is a win for the US? The US was holding on to frozen Iranian funds, which we use as a bargaining chip to get Iran to comply with the agreement and submit to inspections. Now they have their money and they get to go back to enriching uranium again. Talk about a win win for Iran. Both Iran and North Korea have played Trump like a fiddle.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 09:41 PM
I ran
I ran so far away
I just ran
I ran all night and day
I couldn't get away

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 09:58 PM
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Trump is the first US president to be called "an idiot" "dotard" & "mentally retarded". By his own cabinet appointees and foreign leaders.


...and somehow he managed to outfox the Clinton machine and send Hillary home !!!!!


I'll bet you're proud of the Helsinki moment & Trump boasting of love letters from KJU. Those are actions that make Trump such a force on the world stage? What Americans would take pride in his actions such as these?


None of that matters to me at all.


Not surprising. Afterall the Russians and North Koreans have replaced our allies in Trump world, and Trump's swallowers are along for the ride. This is the "new patriotism of MAGA" - sucking up to dictators and murderers.

 

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  posted on 6/26/2019 at 10:23 PM
I can kind of see the angle with North Korea, abandon your nuclear ambitions and join the global economy. Be....the next Vietnam. That's a future.

With Iran, totally different situation, their motivations for what they do in the region and the world are impossible for us to try get them to abandon. It's who they are, or atleast who their leadership is.

There is absolutely no future in any hypothetical Trump - Iran negotiation. Best we can do is try to manage and contain Iran. Was the JCPOA the best method of doing that or are these sanctions the better alternative for doing that? Iran is much worse off under the sanctions than the JCPOA, but as we see, that is very agitating to them and causing them to lash out.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2019 at 01:34 AM
Iran is a piece of sh*t bass-ackwards country.

I say stand up to them or be prepared to pay the price.

They shot down our drone over international waters.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2019 at 02:35 AM
This has Gulf of Tonkin written all over it.

Its a frekin drone, a toy. Nobody got hurt, except maybe the geek pilot experienced a little stress and spilled his coffee on the keyboard and choked on his donut. Not worth killing over. Prove it wasnt in Irans airspace then bill em for it. WTF ever, get over it.

Maybe or maybe not this time, but the US screws around in Iranian territorial waters all the time. The US got off easy in 1988 when the USS Vincennes entered Iranian waters and downed Iran Air Flight 655, the Airbus out of Tehran, killing 290 civilians. If Iran shot down a US civilian airliner like that we would pound them into dust.

How quickly we forget.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655



[Edited on 6/27/2019 by BrerRabbit]

 

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  posted on 6/27/2019 at 03:34 PM
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Iran is a piece of sh*t bass-ackwards country.

I say stand up to them or be prepared to pay the price.

They shot down our drone over international waters.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


Didn't you read the coordinates from Javid Zarif where the plane was shot down? It was in Iranian airspace. There is more but it gets dirtier than that. Guess it's time for a wtf post on Iran in Terrorism Updates.

 

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  posted on 6/27/2019 at 05:51 PM
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Iran is a piece of sh*t bass-ackwards country.


Not sure why folks dont like Iran. Other than they smoke a slightly different brand of hardline Judaeo-Christianity, their society is a wet dream for hardcore American conservatives. Total subjugation of women, prison or death for gays, dissenters, and other disruptive elements, religion and nationalist doctrine taught in schools, militant isolationism, total police state. Pretty much Alabama with a turban.

 

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Total subjugation of women, prison or death for gays, dissenters, and other disruptive elements, religion and nationalist doctrine taught in schools, militant isolationism, total police state.


Sounds like a community Dems would despise. Pretty bass-acwards place

 

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Sounds like a community Dems would despise.


Exactly

 
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