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  posted on 4/11/2019 at 05:03 PM
Julian Assange of Wikileaks was granted asylum by the Ecuadorian Embassy in London and has been there for the past seven years. He sought asylum there rather than be extradited to Sweden to face alleged rape charges as well as the U.S. who wanted him for his activities with Chelsea Manning, which facilitated release of U.S. Department of Defense documents.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47891737

August 2015 - Swedish prosecutors drop their investigation into two allegations - one of sexual molestation and one of unlawful coercion because they have run out of time to question him. But he still faces the more serious accusation of rape.

April 2019 - The Metropolitan Police arrests him for "failing to surrender to the court" over a warrant issued in 2012. He is found guilty and faces up to 12 months in prison, as well as extradition over US charges of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2019/apr/11/wikileaks-founder-julian -assange-arrested-at-the-ecuadorean-embassy-live-updates

The United States has requested the extradition of Assange and charged him with involvement in computer hacking with Chelsea Manning. The Metropolitan police said the arrest was made on behalf of the US authorities.
In reaction to the news, Donald Trump said “I know nothing about WikiLeaks,” adding, “It’s not my thing.” In the final month of the 2016 election, Trump mentioned WikiLeaks 164 times.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/11/the-guardian-view-on- assange-and-extradition-say-no-to-the-us

He says he skipped bail and did not return to court in 2012 over fears of being extradited to the U.S. where he could be tortured.

"As a candidate, Donald Trump declared his love for WikiLeaks when the organisation published emails stolen by Russian state hackers from the Democratic National Committee. But six months later, after WikiLeaks released information on the CIA’s hacking operations, the service’s then director Mike Pompeo declared it a “hostile intelligence service” and the US described arresting Mr Assange as a priority."


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/11/julian-assange-arrested-at- ecuadorian-embassy-wikileaks

At a central London police station, Assange was further arrested at the request of the US seeking his extradition over allegations he conspired with former US military analyst Chelsea Manning to download classified databases in what the US justice department called “one of the largest compromises of classified information in the history of the United States”.

The US accuses Assange of “conspiracy to commit computer intrusion”, alleging that he assisted Manning in cracking a password to help her infiltrate Pentagon computers and download material to share with WikiLeaks. If convicted, Assange faces a maximum sentence of five years .

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/11/everything-you-need-to-know-a bout-julian-assange


 

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  posted on 4/11/2019 at 05:23 PM
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/11/712128612/julian-assange-arrested-in-london

Earlier reports today indicated that he believed the CIA and others were behind his being arrested and Scotland Yard did admit that the US requested he be arrested.

There are so many issues with all of this.

One issue is he wants protection as a reporter, but he is not credentialled press.

He leaked confidential information, some of it classified or previously classified.

He interrupted the functioning of "several nation states".

If countries are so worried that there are dirty deeds that they are responsible for that can be found out, what is the correct thing for them to do? Cover it up or not do dirty deeds in the first place?

Are people supposed to cower in fear when they find out about bad things going on because they fear reprisal if they say anything?

Should a civilian (non-military person) be subject to military tribunals/trials if that person (like Assange) releases un-approved information that makes the military look bad, or politicians? If they are not in the military why should the military have any jurisdiction over them?

Most of us have read some of those cables over the years, which provided an interesting gossipy look at what world leaders really thought about situations and other world leaders. Nothing really came about of it.

The governments all spy on each other, on their civilians, they tried to curtail reporters ability to spy on anything in the military actions in Afghanistan/Iraq by embedding reporters with them, they did not want any more disclosures like what happened in Viet Nam where the massacre at Mei Lei occurred. Just because you do not see it or hear about it, is it okay for governments to be doing these things?

Is Assange a hero, a governmental embarassment of multinational states, a rogue-covert spy who is fed up and wants to expose corruption, misdeeds of many governments or all of the above?

He should seek extradition somewhere that will not deport him if he does not want to answer to US/Swedish, UK authorities and even the Ecuadorians who were not happy with his activities at the embassy (internet usage).



 

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  posted on 4/11/2019 at 05:36 PM
On the campaign trail Trump said he loved Wikileaks & brought it up often. Today he said he didn't know much about Wikileaks & distanced himself.
 

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  posted on 4/11/2019 at 08:39 PM
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On the campaign trail Trump said he loved Wikileaks & brought it up often. Today he said he didn't know much about Wikileaks & distanced himself.


Wait, are you suggesting that Trump lied? No way! Whatever Trump says currently is the truth. No fair going back to what he said in the past. Things he said in the past are just lies from the corrupt liberal media that is the enemy of the American people.

 

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  posted on 4/11/2019 at 11:08 PM
Or we are just taking his words out of context or do not get his humor.

America is going to cough up this hairball.

 

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  posted on 4/12/2019 at 06:15 AM
Here's a good article from Fortune Magazine to refresh Dictator Don's memory problems.


'It's Not My Thing.' Trump Distances Himself From WikiLeaks After Assange Arrest

Donald Trump made no secret during the 2016 campaign that he appreciated WikiLeaks and founder Julian Assange for publishing thousands of hacked Democratic emails, many of them damaging to Hillary Clinton.

“I love WikiLeaks,” he said more than once as the group posted emails stolen by Russian operatives from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s Gmail account.

Once Trump won the presidency, though, the praise gave way to condemnation by top administration officials. His CIA director branded WikiLeaks “a non-state hostile intelligence service,” and his attorney general vowed to see Assange arrested.

By Thursday, that turnabout was complete as Assange was expelled form his long-time hideout in Ecuador’s embassy in London in response to a U.S. extradition request and a criminal indictment. And Trump told reporters in the Oval Office, “I know nothing about WikiLeaks — it’s not my thing.”


That belies the praise he showered on the organization during his presidential campaign, as well as efforts by supporters to encourage its leaks of stolen Democratic documents — which often came at key moments, such as just before the Democratic National Convention and just after the Washington Post released a 2005 audiotape of Trump boasting about sexually assaulting women.

“WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks,” Trump said on Oct. 10, 2016, a few days after it began posting Podesta’s emails.

“I have learned so much from WikiLeaks,” he told Fox News’s Bret Baier later that month. In the weeks leading up to the election, he called the emails it posted “incredible,” “amazing” and a “treasure trove.”

People close to Trump communicated with WikiLeaks in hopes of better weaponizing the hacked materials the group had obtained.

Donald Trump Jr. has acknowledged exchanging several private Twitter messages with WikiLeaks in September 2016, weeks before the organization published hacked emails from the Clinton campaign, which would generate headlines that haunted the Democrat’s campaign through Election Day. In the messages, he mostly answered contacts from WikiLeaks politely or not at all, though he didn’t reject communications with the website.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russia interference in the 2016 campaign touched repeatedly on the role of WikiLeaks and Assange. While the charges against Assange deal only with his helping ex-U.S. Army analyst Chelsea Manning hack into classified government files, federal prosecutors could press him to reveal more about his involvement in the 2016 campaign if he’s eventually extradited to stand trial.


Roger Stone
Trump campaign officials directed a Trump ally, Roger Stone, to contact WikiLeaks during the period when the activist website was publishing the emails, which embarrassed top Democratic officials, including Clinton, according to an indictment against Stone.

Stone’s deadline for filing motions in court to dismiss the charges is Friday. One of his lawyers, Grant Smith, wouldn’t say Thursday which his arguments will make mention of Assange, or the latest developments surrounding him. “Stay tuned,” said Smith, in an email.

Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen testified that he overheard a phone call in which Stone gave Trump advance word that WikiLeaks would soon release hacked Democratic emails. Stone has pleaded not guilty and has denied that he worked with WikiLeaks.

Others working for Trump also embraced Assange. A poster of Assange reading “Dear Hillary, I miss reading your classified emails” hung in the Trump campaign’s workspace at the third presidential debate in 2016.


Approving Tweets
As Trump prepared for his inauguration, the president-elect tweeted approvingly about Assange’s criticism of the U.S. media and of his comments about Podesta falling for a password phishing attempt.

“Julian Assange said ‘a 14 year old could have hacked Podesta’ – why was DNC so careless? Also said Russians did not give him the info!” Trump wrote on Jan. 4, 2017. The next day, he tweeted: “The dishonest media likes saying that I am in Agreement with Julian Assange – wrong. I simply state what he states, it is for the people.”

But by last November the president was telling reporters, “I don’t know anything about him. Really, I don’t know much about him. I really don’t.”


 

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  posted on 4/12/2019 at 12:39 PM
I'm glad he's been brought to justice. I don't condone the crimes that he's revealed by any means, but compromising our national security through his hacking and publication of U.S. secrets, whether criminal or not, is simply not the way to go about it.
 

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  posted on 4/13/2019 at 03:07 PM
At the time of his arrest, Wikileaks said "powerful actors including cia are engaged in a sophisticated effort to dehumanize, delegitamize and imprison Assange". I think that is probably true. I don't know what tidbits he might have been planning to release at this time or in the near future, but there might have been something certain groups did not want to come out.

It is interesting that Trump liked Wikileaks when they were releasing Hillary email info. but now he does not.

I do not condone releasing classified information that is related to military operations but somewhere, some way there should be a non-corrupt way to bring information to the attention of NON CORRUPT people who will not just sweep it under the carpet. Ralph Nader is too old to take this on, but can't we have a group that will deal with corruption. The FBI is full of crooks, the cia is full of crooks and liars, the NSA is full of Deep State spies, this is why people take their info. to the public, because there is not one agency in the govt. that is not corrupt. How sad is that?

 

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