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  posted on 3/8/2019 at 01:51 PM
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I'm a Huge Outlaws fan. I love Hughie Thomasson and the legacy of music he created. I saw the band as much as I could and even liked his input in Skynyrd. Even after he passed I felt a connection to him and his music through his hand picked guitar partners Chris Anderson and Steve Grisham. I love Chris Anderson and with his recent departure from the Outlaws I will be following his new efforts in the new band Rattlebone. I'm hoping they make a nice run of it in support of their new CD. They are doing some shows in Florida, but I'm hoping it expands across the US. Chris has Johnny Neel among others in the band. Here's link to Rattlebones homepage.

https://rattlebone.net/

I was wondering what happened and why the departure. I won't be supporting this version of the Outlaws as it's getting further away from Hughie with each move Henry Paul makes. I was browsing through Facebook posts and a thread about the topic popped up and didn't really answer the questions I had. It had a link to an article that was depressing. It seems to be a stolen legacy.

https://theangry99percent.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/a-rock-and-roll-tragedy/ ?fbclid=IwAR0GY4GchMW_6tUIRGgg4A-YDl6Qv0I3_Au2FzoeTgLE3sEd_7TZ279QvUQ

I hope Hughie's widow is well provided for as 99% of the Outlaws if not more was his doing and what's right is might.

Any factual input wouild be appreciated, Long Live Hughie's Legacy!


EDIT disregard, no replies needed....

Look like a dead horse issue, Found some old threads (I even posted in), Still wishing the best for the righteous.


http://www.allmanbrothers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&fi le=viewthread&tid=145964#pid3237014

http://www.allmanbrothers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&fi le=viewthread&tid=141328#pid3181730

http://www.allmanbrothers.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&fi le=viewthread&tid=142221#pid
Great video from this one) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClteTvJWJMc





[Edited on 3/8/2019 by Fretsman]

 
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  posted on 3/8/2019 at 10:37 PM
I always liked them and agree that Hughie was a great asset to every band that he played with. I seen him with Skynyrd in 2000 and hated to see him quit. He never got the credit or level of fame that he was worthy of. I wish there was more history on them tho the "History Of Southern Rock" book has a great chapter.

 

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  posted on 3/8/2019 at 10:41 PM
PhotoRon can definitely add some input on this topic.

 

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  posted on 3/9/2019 at 01:33 PM
I last saw the outlaws in 1981, and they were already on a steady decline, drugs[alcohol], ego's and mental illness.Frank O'keefe and Henry were long gone, Monte had been fired, and Harvey quit at that point, and Billy was soon to follow. too bad how it wound up.

Harvey Arnold today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33V1YAPLHM8

https://www.newsobserver.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/on-the-beat-b log/article10198205.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmpGDu0xU0k

https://www.outlawsmusic.com










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  posted on 3/9/2019 at 08:06 PM
They're playing near me in a couple months.
I ain't going.
Might would give them a chance if Chris Anderson & Billy Paul were still in the band.
Them boys can pick.

Glad I got to see the Reunion with both drummers in 2005.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2019 at 04:04 AM
Seeing this thread got me thinking of them, I looked at my massive collection of music in my iTunes library and was shocked to see I only have five songs from them!

I was a fan in the late 70's and bought every album but haven't listened to them in years... I will correct that!

I seen them in the early eighties backing up Sabbath with Dio.... quite a contrast in styles!

I also seen Hughie with Skynyrd during the 25th tour.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2019 at 01:55 PM
I saw them 3rd Row at the Capitol Theatre in NJ mid '80's on a triple bill of Roy Buchanan, Johnny Winter, and the Outlaws, It don't get much better than that.

I searched for prior threads and saw pretty much what there was to see, I edited and added in my initial thread along with Pops Waterhole vid. PhotoRon did chime in there. I love that guy as I believe he sent me the Outtakes disc which gave a sweet peak at early versions and unrealeased gems.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2019 at 03:49 PM
Saw this on FB, Pretty cool, Whether volume or dancing shook the camera is a minor flaw, Nice stuff.

https://www.facebook.com/dougjonesnashville/videos/2581354305212624/?t=54

 

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  posted on 3/10/2019 at 08:37 PM
Huge Outlaws fan. While I miss Chris Anderson, I can tell you the Outlaws are kicking ass and taking names. Not seeing them because of personnel changes may be shortchanging yourself.
 

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  posted on 3/10/2019 at 09:12 PM
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Huge Outlaws fan. While I miss Chris Anderson, I can tell you the Outlaws are kicking ass and taking names. Not seeing them because of personnel changes may be shortchanging yourself.


Completely disagree.

hanky stole the Outlaws brand, band and legacy by being able to afford a better law team than Hughie's widow could.

They don't deserve anyone's support.

 

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  posted on 3/10/2019 at 09:19 PM
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PhotoRon can definitely add some input on this topic.


You think?

I talked to his daughter Constance a couple years back about Once an Outlaw.

She said those who had her father's final recording should be spread it far and wide.

Disgusting that hanky would try to prevent the release.

If you have OaO and hanky's "it's about pride" you'll see so many ways he tried to copy what Hughie had done on his last release.

hank doesn't seem to have much fertile grounds for songwriting, about half of the songs on "pride" are about whiskey or drinking.



 

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  posted on 3/12/2019 at 09:26 PM
Blah blah blah, Anyone wanting to go see a great show with blazing guitars, go see the outlaws. If you're concerned about how wives were treated or not treated don't. Of course you should't see the Allmans either if that's the case.

From the mouth of Chris Anderson, the people who put the money up for HT's last Outlaws record are the ones who own it, not HT's wife. One name mentioned was Charlie Daniels.

 

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  posted on 3/17/2019 at 01:38 AM
Another great show from the Outlaws tonight in NJ. 2 great new songs played from their next CD. Check them out you won'y be disappointed.
 

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  posted on 3/17/2019 at 07:53 AM
Hank Paul is a scam

 

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  posted on 3/17/2019 at 08:44 AM
I'm a Chris Anderson fan. Hughie was great too. Saw Hughie with Skynyrd a couple of times and saw Chris sit in with the ABB in the 90's and Dickey and Gregg seemed to be happy he was there. Dickey even signaled for Chris to take a solo on Blue Sky.

Hope Chris and Johnny have success with the new band. I'm bot sure why Chris left the Outlaws. Anybody know?

 

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I'm also a Chris Anderson fan and part of the reason I started it was the whole Rattlebone emergence then that got me to thinking was CA too much the face of the new version of the band? I'm aware that the best days of this band are behind them certainly the creative output. I avoid artists I don't respect (I won't rehash fools that irk me) and the departure of Mr. Anderson started to influence me. I recall a previous thread and did some searches after my initial post. Hence the EDIT and links to some older threads. One which said Chris left amicably, now I'm not sure if he was just taking the high road and being the consummate Gentleman or if it was truly an amicable split. That's when I started thinking this was beating a dead horse type of thread. I wanted folks to see what Chris is doing in his new band with Johnny Neel and others. I hope it takes off and he starts a tour to get some music lovers associated with them. I've seen a few posts on Facebook that rock!
 

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  posted on 3/17/2019 at 03:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az-QKeJFbTg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lriPSzFm8Yc

Its 2019, if you don't dig the henry paul outlaws, don't go see em. just like skynyrd, marshall tucker, the dead........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfeeeMSsR9U

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I'm also a Chris Anderson fan and part of the reason I started it was the whole Rattlebone emergence then that got me to thinking was CA too much the face of the new version of the band? I'm aware that the best days of this band are behind them certainly the creative output. I avoid artists I don't respect (I won't rehash fools that irk me) and the departure of Mr. Anderson started to influence me. I recall a previous thread and did some searches after my initial post. Hence the EDIT and links to some older threads. One which said Chris left amicably, now I'm not sure if he was just taking the high road and being the consummate Gentleman or if it was truly an amicable split. That's when I started thinking this was beating a dead horse type of thread. I wanted folks to see what Chris is doing in his new band with Johnny Neel and others. I hope it takes off and he starts a tour to get some music lovers associated with them. I've seen a few posts on Facebook that rock!


His facebook post at the time indicated he was fired.

 

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  posted on 3/18/2019 at 02:24 PM
On a rehash I found the post, He definitely took the high road in his response. His Thanx as ALL of theirs (inc Henry) should go to Hughie. Hughie's music Hughie's band. He sings all Hughie's songs as that's the songs fans want to hear. His best vocals were on Knoxville Girl and the highlight is the song is the guitar lead interplay between Billy and Hughie. HP holds a guitar as a prop only. Is it even plugged into an amp? In the Florida Guitar Army Henry was a part time cook who now is wearing medals he didn't earn. Talk about stolen Valor? There are great and talented cover bands that are worth seeing, but you know the material isn't theirs, I have an issue when the music is claimed as your own. Long Live The Music.
 

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I wouldn't pay money to see this version of The Outlaws. Same with Skynyrd, Foghat, Ten Years After, faux-Blackfoot. When it's over it's over.

 

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On a rehash I found the post, He definitely took the high road in his response. His Thanx as ALL of theirs (inc Henry) should go to Hughie. Hughie's music Hughie's band. He sings all Hughie's songs as that's the songs fans want to hear. His best vocals were on Knoxville Girl and the highlight is the song is the guitar lead interplay between Billy and Hughie. HP holds a guitar as a prop only. Is it even plugged into an amp? In the Florida Guitar Army Henry was a part time cook who now is wearing medals he didn't earn. Talk about stolen Valor? There are great and talented cover bands that are worth seeing, but you know the material isn't theirs, I have an issue when the music is claimed as your own. Long Live The Music.
If you want to hear outlaws music live?, this version of whats left is your only option. some will go and dig it, some won't. its almost 50 years since the first outlaws record, time moves on, people pass away, Hughie, Billy and Frank won't be back. Henry and Monty are the last 2 originals left, like Gary Rossington is the last man standing in Skynyrd, its just the way it is.

 

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I wouldn't pay money to see this version of The Outlaws. Same with Skynyrd, Foghat, Ten Years After, faux-Blackfoot. When it's over it's over.


Ditto.

 

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I wouldn't pay money to see this version of The Outlaws. Same with Skynyrd, Foghat, Ten Years After, faux-Blackfoot. When it's over it's over.


I would see Skynyrd. For Gary alone, but with Rickey and Johnnie it's a no brainer. Mr. Rossington is one of my all-time favorite riff masters.

 

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  posted on 3/21/2019 at 07:26 AM
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I wouldn't pay money to see this version of The Outlaws. Same with Skynyrd, Foghat, Ten Years After, faux-Blackfoot. When it's over it's over.

I agree. I am glad a much older friend gave me his Outlaws and Skynyrd records he bought as a teenager in the 1970s.

 

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