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  posted on 2/26/2019 at 08:20 PM
Esquire Michael Cohen testified today before the Senate Intelligence Committee behind closed doors.

He testifies tomorrow before the House Reform and Oversight Committee which is a public hearing, you can watch that one, at 10:00 A.M. see links below.

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/26/18241180/michael-cohen-house-testimony-what-t ime-how-to-watch

https://oversight.house.gov/


and then on Thursday he testifies behind closed doors before the House Intelligence Committee.


Regarding the testimony before the Oversight Committee Mr. Cohen has already been subjected to a very vicious allegation by Florida House Representative Matt Gaetz on twitter.

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Hey @MichaelCohen212 - Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot..

Comment: This is an offensive and innapropriate accusation for a Congressional member to make. Mr. Cohen has vehemently refuted and denied this allegation.

https://www.vox.com/2019/2/26/18241996/matt-gaetz-michael-cohen-trump-twitt er-threat

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/431744-five-things-to-watch-as -michael-cohen-testifies
Rod Rosenstein is also going to testify next to Cohen.


REMARKS: This whole 3 day event is going to be really ugly with accusations, revelations, and more fuel for the anti-Trump Congressional members. I remember Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook when he had to testify before Congress. Initially it was not that bad, but the more they got into it, it became an ordeal and I felt sorry for Zuckerberg. Mr. Cohen is in a bad situation, he is going to prison, he worked for the man who became President and was of course privvy to many private things which should fall under the category of attorney/client privilege. I thought the whole Stormy Daniels matter had been looked at, dismissed and was over and done with. Reporters say that he will testify about that. We will have to see.


OPENING STATEMENT from this morning
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/watch-michael-cohen-s-testimony-before-co ngress-1449167427972

Transcript of Mr. Cohen's opening statement.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r5wLV4481g
Part 2 from this morning.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/live-coverage-michael-cohens-house-oversight-tes timony-133050501.html



[Edited on 2/27/2019 by gina]

 

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Mr. Cohen is in a bad situation, he is going to prison, he worked for the man who became President and was of course privvy to many private things which should fall under the category of attorney/client privilege.


Just a reminder that when the attorney is participating in the crime, there is no attorney/client privilege. The attorney is no longer acting as such; he's acting as an accomplice.

It's important that the public will see Cohen's testimony and any evidence he brings to prove that he is credible. It's the 1st opportunity we've had to judge for ourselves what it is that Trump did that is criminal. Supposedly, Cohen's going to produce financial statements where Trump inflated the value of his holdings in order to get loans while simultaneously under-reporting their value to pay less or no tax. Both are crimes but are not unheard of by real estate developers.


 

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  posted on 2/27/2019 at 11:51 AM
It's "Capitol".
 

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  posted on 2/27/2019 at 01:43 PM
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This whole 3 day event is going to be really ugly with accusations, revelations, and more fuel for the anti-Trump Congressional members.


Sounds like you wish it wasn't happening.





 

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  posted on 2/27/2019 at 02:36 PM
Cohen seems credible on some points, but clearly not credible on others, IMO. But the big question is, if the Republicans are disgusted with Cohen and his flipping, who are they really angry with? Who hired and brought someone like Cohen to Washington? If you’re disgusted with Cohen, you are actually demonstrating a disgust for Trump for his complete lapse of judgment and inability to judge someone’s character....what a silly fool.

Somewhere Obama is laughing his a$$ off. Great choice for President conservatives....you really proved those libs wrong, lol.



 

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  posted on 2/27/2019 at 02:36 PM
There is an hour recess right now 2:30 to 3:30.

 

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This whole 3 day event is going to be really ugly with accusations, revelations, and more fuel for the anti-Trump Congressional members.


Sounds like you wish it wasn't happening.




We know that people lie in business it happens all the time whether it is a $15 an hour office worker covering for their boss or in Mr. Cohen's case being paid considerably more to lie for his boss when directed to do so. What I think is one of the saddest things is the whole matter related to Stormy Daniels. I read some articles that said that she was a victim of domestic violence shortly before this whole Trump-Cohen payoff issue started. It seems that she wanted to get away from her husband/boyfriend and she had a child as well. Trump may have just wanted to keep his indiscretion with her private and quiet and just directed Cohen to make that happen, but I think a better thing would have been if she could have asked for the help she needed. Cohen and Trump both have enough money to have bought her a modest house where she and her child could live, and rather than just a one time lump sum payment, could have set up an investment where she would get money every month to live on so she did not have to keep degrading herself working as a stripper etc. She probably did not ask, and they probably did not think of this, but that is what should have happened.

I also think it is the height of hypocrisy for Mr. Cohen to be going to jail in part for making the payment to Stormy on behalf of Trump. How many of those people on Capitol Hill have patronized prostitutes, had sex with staffers, had/have mistresses? I heard one report recently which said the only one who is NOT compromised or compromisable on Capitol Hill is Rand Paul. It also said you do not get to that level of power unless you have already been compromised or they know you can be and will be.

Mr. Cohen since he was convicted of felonies has been disbarred and cannot practice law anymore in New York State which is is his livelihood. I know he was convicted of more than just the payment to Stormy, but come on does that rise to the level of a felony? Seriously?

People say that he wants to get a shorter sentence, but I don't think any promises or deals have been made to him. I think he should seek asylum in the Ukraine with his wife who was born in the Ukraine. What kind of life can he have here when he gets out of prison. He could also ask for asylum in Canada, or Norway.



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  posted on 2/27/2019 at 04:01 PM
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But the big question is, if the Republicans are disgusted with Cohen and his flipping, who are they really angry with?


What's pointless is the GOP questioners who pontificate about what a waste of time this is & then go on to ask convoluted questions that they can't even repeat. If it's a waste of time, say that's how you feel & pass. I did like the clap back that Congress is capable of walking & chewing gum simultaneously. Government business is being conducted today; DC hasn't closed because Cohen is testifying. In fact, there is a recess so members could vote on legislation.


 

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The lawyers that are representing him are Bill and Hillary Clinton attorneys, which I thought was interesting.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2019 at 08:09 PM

Enjoy two more days of wild speculation. So far, there is no Russian blackmail, no collusion, no campaign finance violations and he holds the key to nothing. After over two years of investigation this is just a distraction.

 

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  posted on 2/27/2019 at 08:22 PM
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Enjoy two more days of wild speculation. So far, there is no Russian blackmail, no collusion, no campaign finance violations and he holds the key to nothing. After over two years of investigation this is just a distraction.


You parrot the words of KJU's best friend quite well. Me thinks when Mueller & SDNY finish that it may be a bad day for goob.

goob, what did you think of all the defense and pro Trump talk today by Jim Jordan et al?

 

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Enjoy two more days of wild speculation. So far, there is no Russian blackmail, no collusion, no campaign finance violations and he holds the key to nothing. After over two years of investigation this is just a distraction.

 

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  posted on 2/28/2019 at 08:33 AM
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What's pointless is the GOP questioners who pontificate about what a waste of time this is & then go on to ask convoluted questions that they can't even repeat. If it's a waste of time, say that's how you feel & pass.


I literally laughed out loud when I heard one guy say, “Mr. Cohen, you committed multiple acts of bank fraud going back to 2011, you are going to prison for lying to Congress, you’ve been disbarred, and you even lied about delivering your own child. You are nothing but a compulsive liar with zero credibility, and you are wasting all of our time with this circus. Now with that being said, I’d like to ask you some questions.” LOL!!!!!!

 

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What's pointless is the GOP questioners who pontificate about what a waste of time this is & then go on to ask convoluted questions that they can't even repeat. If it's a waste of time, say that's how you feel & pass.


I literally laughed out loud when I heard one guy say, “Mr. Cohen, you committed multiple acts of bank fraud going back to 2011, you are going to prison for lying to Congress, you’ve been disbarred, and you even lied about delivering your own child. You are nothing but a compulsive liar with zero credibility, and you are wasting all of our time with this circus. Now with that being said, I’d like to ask you some questions.” LOL!!!!!!


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The Republicans were very concerned about how embarrassing it was that Cohen would even be allowed to testify in a congressional hearing because he is a known liar and a general scumbag.

Cohen was in cahoots with Trump for ten years of being scumbags together. Trump is a known liar. I saw a clip today of Rick Santorum (a Republican) weirdly trying to show Trump's innocence concerning the Russia investigation by stating that people should not worry about him lying about that because he lies about everything.

How can being a liar disqualify one from testifying in a hearing, but not from being president of the country?

I am not saying that any president has not lied, nor is it my opinion that it is necessarily disqualifying. However, that seemed to be the only Republican angle against Cohen.

Republicans in congress are a COMPLETE JOKE. They are shocked to have a liar in for questioning, but proud to have one as POTUS.


 

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Republicans in congress are a COMPLETE JOKE. They are shocked to have a liar in for questioning, but proud to have one as POTUS


It’s clear that they value the cause over ethics. It’s very troublesome that they demonstrate a complete lack of accountability for how these deeply flawed characters came to Washington. Who condoned it since 2016? Who welcomed it? Who admired them in 2016? Who promoted it? Who supported it? Who voted for it? Enough said.

 

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Enjoy two more days of wild speculation. So far, there is no Russian blackmail, no collusion, no campaign finance violations and he holds the key to nothing. After over two years of investigation this is just a distraction.


I think it's more than wild speculation. In addition, while many of Mr. Cohen's misdeeds were discovered during the Mueller investigation, his congressional testimony is not part of it.

 

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It’s clear that they value the cause over ethics. It’s very troublesome that they demonstrate a complete lack of accountability for how these deeply flawed characters came to Washington. Who condoned it since 2016? Who welcomed it? Who admired them in 2016? Who promoted it? Who supported it? Who voted for it? Enough said.



You're right. Everything Cohen said yesterday was known/said in 2016 while Trump was running. Even Cohen said Trump had been running Catch & Kill, financial misdeeds, tax fraud long before Cohen arrived on the scene - just ask Weisselberg. Trump loved the spectacle of running as one big brand builder & ego boost. Manipulated polls aside, not sure how he even got the nomination except the field was too crowded & he intimidated the rest of them. Old news except it's a lesson the dems should learn. We don't need 99 people diluting the pool. How about 1-2 under the age of 80?

Cummings' closing remarks to "get back to normal" & "civility" were eloquent but too late. The recurring theme I hear re the comparisons to Nixon who resigned at about this point is that 1) his own party & its constituents had enough respect for the constitution to know when the line was crossed and 2) Nixon, awful as he was, had enough dignity to be "disgraced." Not the case here.

 

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I read today that Weisselberg has "immunity" so apparently whatever material he provides he will not get in trouble for.

What is more amazing is that I also read that a sitting president cannot be charged with crimes while in office or perhaps they mean nothing can be done to them about those things until he is out of office. If Congress wanted to try to impeach him that would be their decision.

He may not see it right now, but going to prison for Cohen may actually protect him from the wrath of "Individual 1". He will be under lock and key and nobody from the outside can get at him in there. It is also interesting that they are saying "Individual 1" as though they plan to implicate other people in these things brought up.

Tax evasion and scamming the tax service is how they (the FBI etc) bring down mobsters when they cannot get them on anything else. Cohen testified that Trump deflated the value of 2 golf properties to the state tax departments saying the properties were only worth 5 million dollars, but he inflated the values to $50 million for the real estate value of the properties, loans can be arranged with high real estate values. If it happened just once people could say it was clerical error, but twice, in the same amounts doesn't seem like just a mistake.

 

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Enjoy two more days of wild speculation. So far, there is no Russian blackmail, no collusion, no campaign finance violations and he holds the key to nothing. After over two years of investigation this is just a distraction.


Numerous indictments, several guilty pleas and several convictions, multiple other ongoing investigations begun from Mueller's findings thus far, and the forfeiture of over $45 million dollars by Manifort alone..... All this adds up to "just a distraction?" Wow...


 

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Don't forget that his sham charity foundation can't operate anymore .......
 

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Lets not forget the evidence seized from cohen's office in an FBI raid.
 

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I read today that Weisselberg has "immunity" so apparently whatever material he provides he will not get in trouble for.

What is more amazing is that I also read that a sitting president cannot be charged with crimes while in office or perhaps they mean nothing can be done to them about those things until he is out of office. If Congress wanted to try to impeach him that would be their decision.

He may not see it right now, but going to prison for Cohen may actually protect him from the wrath of "Individual 1". He will be under lock and key and nobody from the outside can get at him in there. It is also interesting that they are saying "Individual 1" as though they plan to implicate other people in these things brought up.

Tax evasion and scamming the tax service is how they (the FBI etc) bring down mobsters when they cannot get them on anything else. Cohen testified that Trump deflated the value of 2 golf properties to the state tax departments saying the properties were only worth 5 million dollars, but he inflated the values to $50 million for the real estate value of the properties, loans can be arranged with high real estate values. If it happened just once people could say it was clerical error, but twice, in the same amounts doesn't seem like just a mistake.




Yet you and goob are Trump's greatest admirers on this site. As has been pointed out in another post in this thread, much of this was know when Trump ran for president, but people still voted for him - some with the belief that he was the lesser of two evils. That in itself is laughable, and I hope that all who voted for Trump are getting what you voted & are proud of your vote for Donald Trump - the same guy who said today that he believed KJU on Otto Warmbier's death after being captured by North Korea. The same pattern in belief Trump has stated about dictators Putin & MBS. Trump's words are very similar on 3 separate occasions about 3 separate dictators. He really likes dictators.

"President Donald Trump on Thursday said he does not hold North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un responsible for Otto Warmbier’s death after Kim denied knowledge of the American student’s maltreatment."

“He felt badly about it. He felt very badly,” Trump said at a news conference after his second summit with Kim, after saying they discussed the matter privately. “He tells me that he didn’t know about it and I will take him at his word.”

 

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What's pointless is the GOP questioners who pontificate about what a waste of time this is & then go on to ask convoluted questions that they can't even repeat. If it's a waste of time, say that's how you feel & pass.


I literally laughed out loud when I heard one guy say, “Mr. Cohen, you committed multiple acts of bank fraud going back to 2011, you are going to prison for lying to Congress, you’ve been disbarred, and you even lied about delivering your own child. You are nothing but a compulsive liar with zero credibility, and you are wasting all of our time with this circus. Now with that being said, I’d like to ask you some questions.” LOL!!!!!!


I'm wondering why, if he's been convicted of lying to Congress, that anyone wants to ask him questions. I mean, don't you wonder if he's lying to you now, and just how much do you trust what he is saying, and if he is saying what someone told him to say?

 

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  posted on 3/4/2019 at 01:57 PM
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I'm wondering why, if he's been convicted of lying to Congress, that anyone wants to ask him questions. I mean, don't you wonder if he's lying to you now, and just how much do you trust what he is saying, and if he is saying what someone told him to say?


Agreed. We have no reason to believe anything he says, so I hope his testimony is investigated for any perjury. It’s too bad Trump brought this mess to the American people.

 
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