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  posted on 9/26/2018 at 06:55 PM
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  posted on 9/26/2018 at 07:19 PM
Nice. One of my favorite eras of The Dead.

 

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  posted on 9/26/2018 at 11:00 PM
lol Bob Weird. Just couldn't resist a bit of bobbybash could we?

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 12:28 AM
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lol Bob Weird. Just couldn't resist a bit of bobbybash could we?


I’m guilty too. He is one of my favorite artists on the planet but he looks mad, short shorts in 80s, on and on. I’ve heard em and still dig the dude.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 10:10 AM
Oct 1981 Netherlands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIM8aolPPmA
 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 10:17 AM
Couldn't resist this, with all of the shows I've seen (Including the Dead in the 80s and 90s & Jerry in Berkeley) I just don't understand with all of the vocal talent out there, how anyone could listen to that and say those two were even in the neighborhood of being "on key"....To each their own I guess.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 10:21 AM
Sitting in the balcony at Radio City in 1980. That run they did the 3 sets starting out acoustic.
Electric set and Weir breaks a string.
Problem was the road crew member had his back turned to Weir because he was engaged in a conversation with an attractive member of the opposite sex. This might well have been an attempt at felonious dry humping. I couldn't tell exactly.
Weir grabs a flashlight and throws it, hitting said road crew member square in the back of his head.
Staggered the poor guy.
Half the balcony is now roaring with laughter.
That string got changed in record time.
Gotta love Ace.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 10:37 AM
Classic. Zen and the Art of Flashlight Throwing.
 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 10:56 AM
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how anyone could listen to that and say those two were even in the neighborhood of being "on key"


We were all just relieved Phil wasn't singing, and in deep denial when Donna was singing.

How on key do you have to be to go "hah"?

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 11:42 AM
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Sitting in the balcony at Radio City in 1980. That run they did the 3 sets starting out acoustic.
Electric set and Weir breaks a string.
Problem was the road crew member had his back turned to Weir because he was engaged in a conversation with an attractive member of the opposite sex. This might well have been an attempt at felonious dry humping. I couldn't tell exactly.
Weir grabs a flashlight and throws it, hitting said road crew member square in the back of his head.
Staggered the poor guy.
Half the balcony is now roaring with laughter.
That string got changed in record time.
Gotta love Ace.
He's lucky that he wasn't on the Skynyrd road crew in the 70s, w/ Ronnie Van Zant on stage.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 12:07 PM
Me and a friend of mine are putting together an acoustic duo. He's a huge Dead Head and I'm a huge Peach Head. I also love The Band, and suggested we do "Masterpiece". Since he doesn't like The Band much, I was surprised he dug the idea. (Always surprised me since I thought The Band and The Dead had more in common stylistically with their folksy roots, where the Allmans and the Dead were only similar in their approach to performance, the Dead being obviously much more loose).

So we start playing and instead of "pretty little girl from Greece" he sings something about "Botticelli". Ok, whatever, sometimes we hear things wrong.

Then we get to the "Sailed around the world in a dirty gondola..." and he looks at me like I'm crazy. Totally lost, has no idea where these words came from. Turns out he'd only heard the Dead cover the song, and typical Dead fashion, they usually skipped the bridge entirely and jammed for a verse (or 20). Being a Band/Allmans fan, I had no idea the Dead had ever covered the song.

So we spent the next 30 minutes arranging the bridge and a jam verse and I now understood why he looked at me funny when I asked if I should get my accordion out for this one. Well, more funny than one usually looks when an accordion is threatened.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 12:12 PM
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Me and a friend of mine are putting together an acoustic duo. He's a huge Dead Head and I'm a huge Peach Head. I also love The Band, and suggested we do "Masterpiece". Since he doesn't like The Band much, I was surprised he dug the idea. (Always surprised me since I thought The Band and The Dead had more in common stylistically with their folksy roots, where the Allmans and the Dead were only similar in their approach to performance, the Dead being obviously much more loose).

So we start playing and instead of "pretty little girl from Greece" he sings something about "Botticelli". Ok, whatever, sometimes we hear things wrong.

Then we get to the "Sailed around the world in a dirty gondola..." and he looks at me like I'm crazy. Totally lost, has no idea where these words came from. Turns out he'd only heard the Dead cover the song, and typical Dead fashion, they usually skipped the bridge entirely and jammed for a verse (or 20). Being a Band/Allmans fan, I had no idea the Dead had ever covered the song.

So we spent the next 30 minutes arranging the bridge and a jam verse and I now understood why he looked at me funny when I asked if I should get my accordion out for this one. Well, more funny than one usually looks when an accordion is threatened.
Is your friend named Ed?.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 12:14 PM
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Is your friend named Ed?.


Nope. Well, at least, that's not what he tells me his name is.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 12:24 PM
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Nope. Well, at least, that's not what he tells me his name is.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 12:24 PM
The harmony was dialed in on this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naub344xEBE
 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 01:25 PM
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So we start playing and instead of "pretty little girl from Greece" he sings something about "Botticelli". Ok, whatever, sometimes we hear things wrong.


Bob Dylan wrote both versions and Dead sing "Botticelli's niece" . The Band it is "pretty little girl from Greece". Couldn't tell you which came first - my guess is "girl from Greece"
Dylan's website has "Botticelli's niece":

https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/when-i-paint-my-masterpiece/

Both sound great, but gotta say a date with Botticelli's niece would be quite an experience:



Birth of Venus Sandro Botticelli ( ~ 1480's)

She also makes an appearance on the cover of Skeletons From the Closet





 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 01:43 PM
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Bob Dylan wrote both versions and Dead sing "Botticelli's niece" . The Band it is "pretty little girl from Greece". Couldn't tell you which came first - my guess is "girl from Greece"
Dylan's website has "Botticelli's niece":

https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/when-i-paint-my-masterpiece/


The song first appeared on The Band's Cahoots album which uses "girl from Greece". The second version recorded was by Dylan uses the "Botticelli's niece" line, though he uses (rather, SHOUTS) "girl from Greece" on The Band's Rock of Ages. So both are right. I had mostly heard it via The Band and their off shoots (Amy Helm, Emmylou, etc) so had never heard the Botticelli line, just as he'd never heard the other.

 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 01:52 PM
lol, I see, so at the time you were both schooled in different versions - classic wtf are you singing moment.
 

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  posted on 9/27/2018 at 02:17 PM
I first heard and fell for that song on Dozen At The Knick

Cool connection on the album covers BrerRabbit. I don’t know that I’ve ever really looked at the cover of “Skeletons” before and it’s been a constant in my rotation for decades.

 

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  posted on 9/28/2018 at 10:59 AM
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Couldn't resist this, with all of the shows I've seen (Including the Dead in the 80s and 90s & Jerry in Berkeley) I just don't understand with all of the vocal talent out there, how anyone could listen to that and say those two were even in the neighborhood of being "on key"....To each their own I guess.



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  posted on 9/28/2018 at 12:12 PM
Fwiw I always preferred JGB. To GD on this one. Jerry sang it much better than Bob

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  posted on 9/28/2018 at 06:01 PM
Feitelson?
 

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  posted on 9/28/2018 at 06:40 PM
Auto correct
Supposed to be fwiw

 

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  posted on 9/28/2018 at 06:57 PM
lol thought it was some inside Band/Dylan/Dead reference only the inner circle would know. But it was just random autocorrect, which is pretty much the same thing when you look at it.
 

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  posted on 9/28/2018 at 07:25 PM
It is not "Botticelli's Knees" ????? Sheeeet……… I've been effed up for decades. I like it my way!

 

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