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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 08:10 AM
Manchester Arena terror attack: 22 dead, 59 injured in explosion at Ariana Grande gig

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manches ter-arena-terror-attack-19-13075943


 
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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 12:08 PM
I'll just save everyone time. Mule is going to use the terrorist attack and the victims to somehow blame Obama and liberals, blah blah blah.
 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 12:20 PM
How can this be? Trump said he would defeat ISIS in his first 30 days.
 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 12:41 PM
after the Brussels bombing

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RUDY GIULIANI: But just to get relevant to what is going on right now, it's outrageous that the president of the United States is not in the situation room right now, planning to destroy ISIS.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 01:50 PM
Absolute evil is not restricted to any religion or political affiliation. Think of Oklahoma City, Atlanta (Olympic Park) and others. We must be vigilant and aware of our surroundings. Expect pat-downs and restrictions on backpacks, camera bags and large purses at future concerts. For now, keep prayers and thoughts for the most recent victims and families.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 04:16 PM
First off, I am not endorsing the attacks, but I want you to understand the ideology behind them.

Al Qaida's core belief was that we are in a holy war, a war of secularism vs. God's law as interpreted and given to the Muslims. The belief behind suicide attacks (and this goes back even to when Hamas kept doing those bus stop bombings in Israel) is that if a person gives their live, as a suicide bomber, and takes more lives than just his own, they have reduced the number of disbelievers. If everyone got involved, eventually the Muslims would prevail because there would be less other people to oppose Islamic law. The Quran directs that in jihad, everyone cannot go out to fight, some must stay home so that if all those who go out are killed, the religion will survive via those left who keep the faith and teach it to the children and remaining people.

Martyrdom is also considered a noble act. To sacrifice one's life so that their religion can prevail, even if that day is not now, but at some later point; this is why they do it.

They are not waiting for the anti-Christ to try to assert his one world order and one world rule, and then begin to fight, they believe things are bad enough right now.

This is divergence on the permissibility of suicide attacks among Islamic groups, but one thing is certain, that day, 9/11/01 where Muslims were accused of being at war with America, changed the world and the way things are done. That opened a door that will not be closed till Judgment Day.

This particular thread deals with the attacks in Manchester, but I will tell you I came across something much worse than this, and it is believed this worse fate will be unleashed on America. I'll put that up in my thread.

We can all feel condolences for those whose lives were cut short in England; I will not go into the larger issues at this time.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/manchester-heartbreak-never -grasped-what-big-pop-gigs-for-daughters-eyes

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/manchester-arena-attacker-n amed-salman-abedi-suicide-attack-ariana-grande




[Edited on 5/23/2017 by gina]

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 04:22 PM
If ISIS considers this a war then they should attack military or government facilities - not a bunch of teeny-bopper little girls at a music show. At best, I'd call label this attack as a case of misplaced aggression - laced with a strong dose of cowardice.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 04:29 PM
How sad.

To understand how some, as the Islamic Extremist Terrorists, are so consumed and owned by hate that they exhibit no compassion empathy or sympathy for the innocent victims, especially the children simply read the first three above.

God Bless The Innocent.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 04:33 PM
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First off, I am not endorsing the attacks, but I want you to understand the ideology behind them.



Stop right there. There is no civilized ideology that allows for the mass bombing of innocent people. Any person or group that finds this to be any kind of tactic for any purpose must be eradicated.

I didn't read the rest of your post. It was probably sickening.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 04:46 PM
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First off, I am not endorsing the attacks, but I want you to understand the ideology behind them.



Stop right there. There is no civilized ideology that allows for the mass bombing of innocent people. Any person or group that finds this to be any kind of tactic for any purpose must be eradicated.

I didn't read the rest of your post. It was probably sickening.


Depends on how you define innocence, which are part of culture and beliefs held by groups of people. Some music promotes values that are in opposition to what God gave to the Jews, Christians and Muslims. Heavy metal music for example is full of anger, violence, and Satanic invocation. If young people were attending a heavy metal concert, would they still be considered innocents or future initiates in a God-less activities. All music is not good or acceptable. Some of it leads to ruin. Music by the way, opens the crown of the head, allowing access to the chakras - spiritual centers of a person- which is why Satan uses music to get inside people to entice them. Praying opens the chakras also, as does chanting.

By the way, man has no need to eradicate anyone, it is God's right to punish. Life and death are in his hands. He told everyone that vengeance was his. He also told man not to kill, and that the only permissible time they could was if they were being attacked or if their religion was being attacked. The Islamists feel their way of life is being attacked by the Godless nature and cultures prevalent in the world today. They want to change the world's culture and rule from what it is now, to what they believe it should be. Other groups want to institute changes, but they are less violent and demanding than Isis.









[Edited on 5/23/2017 by gina]

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 05:01 PM
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If ISIS considers this a war then they should attack military or government facilities - not a bunch of teeny-bopper little girls at a music show. At best, I'd call label this attack as a case of misplaced aggression - laced with a strong dose of cowardice.


If they had an army I'm sure they would attack military and government facilities.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 06:04 PM
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First off, I am not endorsing the attacks, but I want you to understand the ideology behind them.



Stop right there. There is no civilized ideology that allows for the mass bombing of innocent people. Any person or group that finds this to be any kind of tactic for any purpose must be eradicated.

I didn't read the rest of your post. It was probably sickening.


Depends on how you define innocence, which are part of culture and beliefs held by groups of people. Some music promotes values that are in opposition to what God gave to the Jews, Christians and Muslims. Heavy metal music for example is full of anger, violence, and Satanic invocation. If young people were attending a heavy metal concert, would they still be considered innocents or future initiates in a God-less activities. All music is not good or acceptable. Some of it leads to ruin. Music by the way, opens the crown of the head, allowing access to the chakras - spiritual centers of a person- which is why Satan uses music to get inside people to entice them. Praying opens the chakras also, as does chanting.

By the way, man has no need to eradicate anyone, it is God's right to punish. Life and death are in his hands. He told everyone that vengeance was his. He also told man not to kill, and that the only permissible time they could was if they were being attacked or if their religion was being attacked. The Islamists feel their way of life is being attacked by the Godless nature and cultures prevalent in the world today. They want to change the world's culture and rule from what it is now, to what they believe it should be. Other groups want to institute changes, but they are less violent and demanding than Isis.











[Edited on 5/23/2017 by gina]


You disgust me. Seriously, you have no heart and no soul.

 

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If ISIS considers this a war then they should attack military or government facilities - not a bunch of teeny-bopper little girls at a music show. At best, I'd call label this attack as a case of misplaced aggression - laced with a strong dose of cowardice.


If they had an army I'm sure they would attack military and government facilities.


They have an army. They hide behind civilians in Iraq.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 06:13 PM
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To understand how some, as the Islamic Extremist Terrorists, are so consumed and owned by hate that they exhibit no compassion empathy or sympathy for the innocent victims, especially the children simply read the first three above.


You misplaced your comma - it should've been placed after the word "children".

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 07:42 PM

The liberal networks were still hyperventilating about Russia while people were screaming

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Cuts to Fake WaPo Russia Story as Manchester Victims Scream in Background

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/msnbcs-chris-matthews-cuts-fake-wap o-russia-story-manchester-victims-scream-background-video/

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12 victims under the age of 16. Horrific.

 

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  posted on 5/23/2017 at 08:25 PM

REMEMBER HILLLARY WANTED TO INCREASE MUSLIM REFUGEES BY

500 PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

 

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REMEMBER HILLLARY WANTED TO INCREASE MUSLIM REFUGEES BY

500 PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


2 things, Goob. It is pretty low to politicize this, and the bomber was born in Manchester. He didn't emigrate.

 

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REMEMBER HILLLARY WANTED TO INCREASE MUSLIM REFUGEES BY

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And? Do you have a point?

 

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  posted on 5/24/2017 at 07:20 AM
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REMEMBER HILLLARY WANTED TO INCREASE MUSLIM REFUGEES BY

500 PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Hold on a second.

In another thread, you said this:

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This is good, we cant have all Muslim nations despising us and lets see where this good start takes us with helping Trump move his agenda forward.


You have a thing against Muslims or not? Or is that conditional for when you situationally feel the need to speak up for the Red Team?

 

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  posted on 5/24/2017 at 07:41 AM
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Absolute evil is not restricted to any religion or political affiliation. Think of Oklahoma City, Atlanta (Olympic Park) and others. We must be vigilant and aware of our surroundings. Expect pat-downs and restrictions on backpacks, camera bags and large purses at future concerts. For now, keep prayers and thoughts for the most recent victims and families.


This is true.

However, outside of isolated horrific events in recent history in the name of a different religion or belief or movement - there is only one persistent basis for so many attacks around the globe and that is radicalized islamic terrorism. By comparing this movement and the frequency of these events to other non-islamic motivated attacks serves to ignore the seriousness of the threat from a small, but unfortunately powerful movement in that religion.

Yes, security will be increased and new restrictions may be enacted. Some would say "then the terrorists win". I disagree. The terrorists only win when they execute a 'successful' attack, that is it. If our way of life is inconvenienced or more scrutinized or has normalities disrupted that is not a 'win' for them. What wins for them is expanding the radical message they espouse and killing infidels.

Europe is full of these radicals who have traveled to places in the middle east to learn and train and pray with radical islamic groups and leaders. So much so that Europe is in serious danger of continuing to see attacks in their nations.

 

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  posted on 5/24/2017 at 10:19 AM
Uh oh Bhawk - don't go blowing his cover like that. He was hoping nobody would notice he's just a troll. Oops.
 

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  posted on 5/24/2017 at 06:56 PM
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REMEMBER HILLLARY WANTED TO INCREASE MUSLIM REFUGEES BY

500 PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


You know why don't you? It's not because she wants to fulfill one of Osama's dreams to see the day when the United States of America becomes the United States of Islam, no. She knows they will do in the US, what they did in Syria, and if our current government is taken down, then guess what will eventually be put into place? The New World Order. Use the Muslims to take down the current regime, then obliterate them, then hand us over lock, stock and barrel to the one world govt.

 

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2 things, Goob. It is pretty low to politicize this, and the bomber was born in Manchester. He didn't emigrate.


I read something that said recently 850 UK citizens went to Syria, only 450 have returned so far. The others may be getting training and planning for future attacks.

 

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  posted on 5/24/2017 at 07:06 PM
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How sad.

To understand how some, as the Islamic Extremist Terrorists, are so consumed and owned by hate that they exhibit no compassion empathy or sympathy for the innocent victims, especially the children simply read the first three above.

God Bless The Innocent.



They do not perceive them as innocent when they are involved in activities that go against the ways of life God gave as example of how people are to live. The children are young, some were 8 and 12 years old. Remember Britney Spears when she was a young performer, then look what happened after the music industry got a hold of her. That is what can happen to young children.

From soda pop singer to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-DQzsHk114&list=PLr1T02YoM3U8ahJi3eHl5 kWC_IAS2Ee9G

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt8VYOfr8To

Is that the future for the 8 and 12 year olds because of music?

 

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