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  posted on 4/5/2017 at 10:52 PM
In Syria, the US vs Russia, Iran, China.

In North Korea, the US vs Russia & China

We're fvcked.

 
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  posted on 4/5/2017 at 11:38 PM
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In Syria, the US vs Russia, Iran, China.

In North Korea, the US vs Russia & China

We're fvcked.


We're f##ked, but more because our president has sold out to Russia. We won't go to war with Russia, as they spent a lot of time and effort installing their puppet.

[Edited on 4/6/2017 by 2112]

 

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We're f##ked, but more because our president has sold out to Russia. We won't go to war with Russia, as they spent a lot of time and effort installing their puppet.


If we can look beyond that...

What if the US decides to remove Assad, Russia going to be cool with that?

 

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We're f##ked, but more because our president has sold out to Russia. We won't go to war with Russia, as they spent a lot of time and effort installing their puppet.


If we can look beyond that...

What if the US decides to remove Assad, Russia going to be cool with that?



The US will not remove Assad. Won't happen.

 

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We're f##ked, but more because our president has sold out to Russia. We won't go to war with Russia, as they spent a lot of time and effort installing their puppet.


hahahah. right Trump sold out to Russia. That's why they gave the Clinton foundation 140 million $$

Keep watching CNN
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Don't let your mind worry about what susan rice did. no big deal. nothing to see there

 

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  posted on 4/6/2017 at 07:13 PM
Cant let another generation of norks be conditioned to prep for nuclear war with the west.

 

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  posted on 4/6/2017 at 07:19 PM
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We're f##ked, but more because our president has sold out to Russia. We won't go to war with Russia, as they spent a lot of time and effort installing their puppet.


hahahah. right Trump sold out to Russia. That's why they gave the Clinton foundation 140 million $$

Keep watching CNN
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Don't let your mind worry about what susan rice did. no big deal. nothing to see there




What did she do? Trump made a claim but has produced no evidence. Keep watching Fox News. Remain uninformed.

 

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  posted on 4/6/2017 at 09:56 PM
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The US will not remove Assad. Won't happen.


And the US entered WWI 100 years ago today.

Another can of worms opens up tonight. 59 cruise missiles target Syrian airfield that is believed to have carried out the Tuesday chemical weapon attack. The first US attack against a Syrian military target. Does it stop there? What is Syria's response, Iran's, Russia's?

It is hard to say what Assad's future is, just as it is hard to say whether big picture Assad staying in power is good or bad, or maybe just 'less bad' because we simply do not know what happens if he's gone. Like Libya - maybe it gets worse without him. Guess it depends on who's making such an assessment.

Quoting from Tillerson

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http://thehill.com/policy/international/327660-tillerson-no-role-for-assad- in-syria

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Thursday said the U.S. is considering an "appropriate response" to the Syrian government's apparent use of chemical weapons and that he sees "no role" in the country for President Bashar Assad.

"The process by which Assad would leave is something that requires an international community effort both to first defeat ISIS within Syria, to stabilize the Syrian country to avoid further civil war and then to work collectively with our partners around the world through a political process that would lead to Assad leaving," Tillerson said at a news conference in Palm Beach, Fla.

"Assad’s role in the future is uncertain, clearly, and with the acts that he has taken, it would seem that there would be no role for him to govern the Syrian people," he said.


[Edited on 4/7/2017 by nebish]

 

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  posted on 4/6/2017 at 10:41 PM
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We're f##ked, but more because our president has sold out to Russia. We won't go to war with Russia, as they spent a lot of time and effort installing their puppet.


hahahah. right Trump sold out to Russia. That's why they gave the Clinton foundation 140 million $$

Keep watching CNN
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Don't let your mind worry about what susan rice did. no big deal. nothing to see there




What did she do? Trump made a claim but has produced no evidence. Keep watching Fox News. Remain uninformed.

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The US will not remove Assad. Won't happen.


And the US entered WWI 100 years ago today.

Another can of worms opens up tonight. 59 cruise missiles target Syrian airfield that is believed to have carried out the Tuesday chemical weapon attack. The first US attack against a Syrian military target. Does it stop there? What is Syria's response, Iran's, Russia's?

It is hard to say what Assad's future is, just as it is hard to say whether big picture Assad staying in power is good or bad, or maybe just 'less bad' because we simply do not know what happens if he's gone. Like Libya - maybe it gets worse without him. Guess it depends on who's making such an assessment.

Quoting from Tillerson

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http://thehill.com/policy/international/327660-tillerson-no-role-for-assad- in-syria

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Thursday said the U.S. is considering an "appropriate response" to the Syrian government's apparent use of chemical weapons and that he sees "no role" in the country for President Bashar Assad.

"The process by which Assad would leave is something that requires an international community effort both to first defeat ISIS within Syria, to stabilize the Syrian country to avoid further civil war and then to work collectively with our partners around the world through a political process that would lead to Assad leaving," Tillerson said at a news conference in Palm Beach, Fla.

"Assad’s role in the future is uncertain, clearly, and with the acts that he has taken, it would seem that there would be no role for him to govern the Syrian people," he said.


[Edited on 4/7/2017 by nebish]


The removal of Assad would open the door for another Islamic state. If he has to be removed, it would require a global effort and I don't see that happening. The ball is in his court. If he retaliated with another attack against his own people and Russia remains quiet, the fecal matter will hit the fan.


Remember when Republicans accused Obama of overstepping his bounds when he bombed countries without getting Congressional approval? I expect all Republicans are irate, right?

 

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  posted on 4/6/2017 at 11:23 PM
Man oh man.I always getta laugh, dropping by here once in a blue moon ta read the liberal brain children's inside the know circle of what is really goin on.Continue on Spanky & Theodore

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 08:36 AM
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The removal of Assad would open the door for another Islamic state. If he has to be removed, it would require a global effort and I don't see that happening. The ball is in his court. If he retaliated with another attack against his own people and Russia remains quiet, the fecal matter will hit the fan.


Remember when Republicans accused Obama of overstepping his bounds when he bombed countries without getting Congressional approval? I expect all Republicans are irate, right?


I think while uncomfortable, the middle east needs strong men leaders and by extension the US needs them. We'll never know what we can't know, but things would probably be better with Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were heads of their respective states. Without them we have radical chaos, with them we have corruption or human rights abuses - neither being a optimal choice. Add in the complication of tacit or explicit support for various terrorist groups, these strong men can pose threats to US interests or that of our allies. Having said that, in my opinion, it seems better to manage around all those situations with them in power rather than create the vacuum which creates a bigger and more present threat.

And again, not knowing what we can't know, it is hard to say if an Assad-less Syria will be a net-net "good" situation in terms of US interests. Based on recent history, I don't think so. The concept of Democracy in the middle east or the benefits of an Arab Spring is a joke.

Regarding Congressional approval and President Obama, when Obama authorized military engagement with allies in Libya he did so without Congress signing off at which time both some Democrats and Republicans disapproved of his decision. It seems to me that the aftermath of the fallout in Libya made Obama "gun shy" and he then sought approval from Congress for action in Syria. Not only that, it is one thing for people in Congress to clamor that they needed to give authorization after the President acts, then President Obama says "ok, you tell me then" and all those same people have stage fright because they then become responsible for it as well, or they can't agree on what type of engagement they want to approve. Still I believe at the time, the White House never ruled out military strikes against the Syrian government even without Congressional approval.

And that was following the first chemical weapon attack in 2013. Since then the Syrian government has been accused of carrying out chemical weapon attacks in 2014 and 2015. The '14 and '15 events coming after it was believed that Syrian chemical weapons had been destroyed under a US-Russian 2013 agreement. So much for that. Then we had the attack April 2017.

Everyone has their own "lines" that shouldn't be crossed and what reactions should be used if or when that happens. So far most critics and supporters of the President at home and abroad have seen this military strike as necessary and appropriate. We'll see where things go from here I suppose.

 

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The US will not remove Assad. Won't happen.


And the US entered WWI 100 years ago today.

Another can of worms opens up tonight. 59 cruise missiles target Syrian airfield that is believed to have carried out the Tuesday chemical weapon attack. The first US attack against a Syrian military target. Does it stop there? What is Syria's response, Iran's, Russia's?

It is hard to say what Assad's future is, just as it is hard to say whether big picture Assad staying in power is good or bad, or maybe just 'less bad' because we simply do not know what happens if he's gone. Like Libya - maybe it gets worse without him. Guess it depends on who's making such an assessment.

Quoting from Tillerson

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http://thehill.com/policy/international/327660-tillerson-no-role-for-assad- in-syria

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Thursday said the U.S. is considering an "appropriate response" to the Syrian government's apparent use of chemical weapons and that he sees "no role" in the country for President Bashar Assad.

"The process by which Assad would leave is something that requires an international community effort both to first defeat ISIS within Syria, to stabilize the Syrian country to avoid further civil war and then to work collectively with our partners around the world through a political process that would lead to Assad leaving," Tillerson said at a news conference in Palm Beach, Fla.

"Assad’s role in the future is uncertain, clearly, and with the acts that he has taken, it would seem that there would be no role for him to govern the Syrian people," he said.


[Edited on 4/7/2017 by nebish]


The removal of Assad would open the door for another Islamic state. If he has to be removed, it would require a global effort and I don't see that happening. The ball is in his court. If he retaliated with another attack against his own people and Russia remains quiet, the fecal matter will hit the fan.


Remember when Republicans accused Obama of overstepping his bounds when he bombed countries without getting Congressional approval? I expect all Republicans are irate, right?

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Republicans, Democrats and The World are all applauding President Trump's action last night.
Action that Obama was too much a coward to take.
Remember Obama constantly saying "Assad must go" and then doing nothing?

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 06:52 PM
General Wesley Clerk told ya the countries that would be destabilized. We've hit most of them. There is Biblical prophecy that Damascus will be destroyed and THEN, the war mentioned in Ezekiel will begin with Russia, China, Iran and half of the Arab world against the US.

 

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Lot more to than meet's the eye.Bannon gone,Jarred in numerous high positions,McCain & Graham happy as a pig in the sun,Hillary calling for a strike 4 hrs before it happened,and on the list goes.AND,it wasn't nerve gas.Check into it it if ya think i'm fulla sh*t.Grand Mama once told me,,things aint always what they seem

 

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Lot more to than meet's the eye.Bannon gone,Jarred in numerous high positions,McCain & Graham happy as a pig in the sun,Hillary calling for a strike 4 hrs before it happened,and on the list goes.AND,it wasn't nerve gas.Check into it, if ya think i'm fulla sh*t.The first responder's woulda been killed as well.Grand Mama once told me,,things aint always what they seem.Gina your on spot babe!

 

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General Wesley Clerk told ya the countries that would be destabilized. We've hit most of them. There is Biblical prophecy that Damascus will be destroyed and THEN, the war mentioned in Ezekiel will begin with Russia, China, Iran and half of the Arab world against the US.




Funny, I don't recall China, Russia, or Iran mentioned in the Bible. Must have been a different version than the one I read.

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General Wesley Clerk told ya the countries that would be destabilized. We've hit most of them. There is Biblical prophecy that Damascus will be destroyed and THEN, the war mentioned in Ezekiel will begin with Russia, China, Iran and half of the Arab world against the US.




Funny, I don't recall Cina, Russia, or Iran mentioned in the Bible. Must have been a different version than the one I read.


It is an obscure version that only exists in the heads of those who believe every conspiracy theory.

 

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Still better than if Hillary won the White House .

 

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  posted on 4/7/2017 at 09:25 PM
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Still better than if Hillary won the White House .


Keep beating that drum while the failed Trump administration internally falls apart. In a time of possible wars with two countries, we have an amateur Secretary of State and many State Department positions are not filled. The amateurs are in over their heads.

 

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General Wesley Clerk told ya the countries that would be destabilized. We've hit most of them. There is Biblical prophecy that Damascus will be destroyed and THEN, the war mentioned in Ezekiel will begin with Russia, China, Iran and half of the Arab world against the US.




Funny, I don't recall China, Russia, or Iran mentioned in the Bible. Must have been a different version than the one I read.

[Edited on 4/8/2017 by 2112]

Best look a little closer! The BEAR shall come down from the mountain's NORTH of Israel to war against them with the other nations.LAND OF NOD=Chinese .Iran+BABYLON.Ya want the chapter's and verse's? Look em up yourself. Or maybe ask Barack Hussein,,,,LMFAO! He is a Bible expert.And one helluva moral upstanding POS as well.

 

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Still better than if Hillary won the White House .


Keep beating that drum while the failed Trump administration internally falls apart. In a time of possible wars with two countries, we have an amateur Secretary of State and many State Department positions are not filled. The amateurs are in over their heads.

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More talk of "regime change" in Syria. God help us.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-haley-idUSKBN17B026

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U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said in an interview that she sees regime change in Syria as one of the Trump administration's priorities in the country wracked by civil war.

Defeating Islamic State, pushing Iranian influence out of Syria, and the ouster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad are priorities for Washington, Haley said in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union” which will air in full on Sunday.

"We don’t see a peaceful Syria with Assad in there," Haley said.



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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson seemed to take a more patient stance in regard to Assad, saying on Saturday that Washington's first priority is the defeat of Islamic State.

Once the threat from Islamic State has been reduced or eliminated, “I think we can turn our attention directly to stabilizing the situation in Syria,” Tillerson said in excerpts from an interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” that will air in full on Sunday.

Tillerson said the United States is hopeful it can help bring parties together to begin the process of hammering out a political solution.

"If we can achieve ceasefires in zones of stabilization in Syria, then I believe - we hope we will have the conditions to begin a useful political process,” Tillerson said.

 

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North Korea said on Saturday U.S. missile strikes against a Syrian airfield on Friday were "an unforgivable act of aggression" that showed its decision to develop nuclear weapons was "the right choice a million times over".

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-northkorea-idUSKBN17 A0H4



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A U.S. Navy strike group will be moving toward the western Pacific Ocean near the Korean peninsula as a show of force, a U.S. official told Reuters on Saturday, as concerns grow about North Korea's advancing weapons program.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-navy-korea-idUSKBN17A0V5?il=0



Any chance the US preemptively strikes N Korea? Doubtful. But, any chance that N Korea sees what happened in Syria, now a cluster of US Navy ships group off their shores, any chance they act first? Hopefully doubtful. Who the fvck can know at this point.

 
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