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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 07:31 PM
How many of you eraser head's are gonna take up for,make excuses,and support Hussein for what he just did to ISRAEL?
I'd say probably 98.7%.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 07:38 PM
Purty quiet round here these daze.Guess the majority are goin to therapy session's still over Killary gettin her as* handed to her on a greazy paper plate.And no i don't mean greasy,,,i mean GREAZZZZZY!

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 08:33 PM
Everyone will say that being anti-Israel is not being anti-Semitic.

This is true - but BO is an anti-Semite - despite having huge support from the Jewish Left. A sneaky underhanded move that he didn't have the balls to take before the election

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 08:49 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 09:23 PM
The question re: the settlements is a long and complicated one that we surely would not reach a consensus on here.

I am merely talking about Obama's clandestine manipulation of the situation and reversal of US-Israeli relationships. According to Israeli intelligence Obama not only abstained but spearheaded the proposal behind the scenes. He didn't have the guts to come out and state this is my opinion.

The US stance on the Israeli/Palestine conflict has always been not to recognize/back Palestine until Palestine accepts the existence of Israel. The theory being that it is impossible for Israel to negotiate with the Palestinians unless the Palestinians acknowledge that Israel is a country

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 10:01 PM
Will Israel be giving that $38 billion back?

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 10:40 PM
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Will Israel be giving that $38 billion back?


EGG ZAKK LEE!!!

israel needs to lose the idea that we owe them squat.

They are NOT the 51st US state.

F&%k them.

And while we're at it, luke, F$#k you too.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 10:55 PM
Be sure to watch Kerry try to worm his was out of this fiasco during his "major speech" tomorrow.

Kerry is trying hard to catch up with Hillary Clinton as the most unaccomplished Sec. of State in U.S. history.
Some folks will notice tomorrow that his boss, obama the failure, will not be standing by Kerry's side.

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 11:40 PM
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The question re: the settlements is a long and complicated one that we surely would not reach a consensus on here.


There is nothing complicated here. Israel is colonizing the West Bank and this is objected to by the entire United Nations.

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I am merely talking about Obama's clandestine manipulation of the situation and reversal of US-Israeli relationships.


This is nonsense and an attempt to rewrite history to conform with how Netanyahu sees it.

The position of every US president since Carter is that the settlements are the issue and Israel keeps thumbing its nose at the US and keeps building them. That is what happened here and the Israelis have not stopped building.

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According to Israeli intelligence Obama not only abstained but spearheaded the proposal behind the scenes. He didn't have the guts to come out and state this is my opinion.


The document appeared on an Egyptian website and the US disputes its contents.

You probably should do some research before spouting off on here about who has balls.

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The US stance on the Israeli/Palestine conflict has always been not to recognize/back Palestine until Palestine accepts the existence of Israel. The theory being that it is impossible for Israel to negotiate with the Palestinians unless the Palestinians acknowledge that Israel is a country


The Palestinians recognized Israel in 1993.

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Many commentators, including this author, have carefully picked apart the myriad problems involved with Israel's new demand that the Palestinians formally recognize it as a "Jewish state." But at least one of its most problematic aspects has been significantly under-examined and underappreciated. The new demand negates, both in effect and intention, the greatest of Palestinian concessions, their 1993 recognition of the State of Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.579701

 

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  posted on 12/27/2016 at 11:51 PM
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Be sure to watch Kerry try to worm his was out of this fiasco during his "major speech" tomorrow.

Kerry is trying hard to catch up with Hillary Clinton as the most unaccomplished Sec. of State in U.S. history.
Some folks will notice tomorrow that his boss, obama the failure, will not be standing by Kerry's side.



You do know that a sizeable percentage of Palestinians are Christian and they live on land that they have occupied since the time of Jesus? One can say that what the Romans started the Republicans will finish and totally destroy the Christian presence in the Holy Land.

And what did Jesus say about the new billionaires you are now worshipping getting into heaven?


 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 12:44 AM
Don't worry. Trump will be Netanyahu's lap dog in just a month's time and we can go back to the Israel can do no wrong policy.
 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 08:58 AM
Under Israeli law, West Bank settlements must meet specific criteria to be legal.[113] In 2009, there were approximately 100[89] small communities that did not meet these criteria and are referred to as illegal outposts.


By Israeli law, privately owned land can not be part of a settlement, unless the land in question has been confiscated for military purposes.[113] In 2006 Peace Now acquired a report, which it claims was leaked from the Israeli Government's Civil Administration, indicating that up to 40 percent of the land Israel plans to retain in the West Bank is privately owned by Palestinians.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 09:39 AM
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Be sure to watch Kerry try to worm his was out of this fiasco during his "major speech" tomorrow.

Kerry is trying hard to catch up with Hillary Clinton as the most unaccomplished Sec. of State in U.S. history.
Some folks will notice tomorrow that his boss, obama the failure, will not be standing by Kerry's side.



You do know that a sizeable percentage of Palestinians are Christian and they live on land that they have occupied since the time of Jesus? One can say that what the Romans started the Republicans will finish and totally destroy the Christian presence in the Holy Land.

And what did Jesus say about the new billionaires you are now worshipping getting into heaven?



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The genocide committed against Christians in the Middle East is perpetrated by Islamic Extremist Terrorist and often while obama refused to help.

Jesus never said anything about billionaires as they did not exist in His time.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 11:00 AM
The current administration hates Israel so much that they sold them F-35 stealth fighter jets.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/middleeast/israel-f-35-jets/

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 12:20 PM
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Don't worry. Trump will be Netanyahu's lap dog in just a month's time and we can go back to the Israel can do no wrong policy.


"True dat", but the bigger question is whose lap will Trump prefer - Netanyahu or Putin. Maybe Trump will tweet us the answer in January.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 12:31 PM
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Be sure to watch Kerry try to worm his was out of this fiasco during his "major speech" tomorrow.

Kerry is trying hard to catch up with Hillary Clinton as the most unaccomplished Sec. of State in U.S. history.
Some folks will notice tomorrow that his boss, obama the failure, will not be standing by Kerry's side.



You do know that a sizeable percentage of Palestinians are Christian and they live on land that they have occupied since the time of Jesus? One can say that what the Romans started the Republicans will finish and totally destroy the Christian presence in the Holy Land.

And what did Jesus say about the new billionaires you are now worshipping getting into heaven?



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The genocide committed against Christians in the Middle East is perpetrated by Islamic Extremist Terrorist and often while obama refused to help.

Jesus never said anything about billionaires as they did not exist in His time.



There may be some basis for the first statement but there are Christians through out the Middle East, including a very large population among Palestinians both in Palestine and in exile. You seem to only care about using Christians for political purposes against Obama. That's very selective.

I am sure the Angels at the Pearly Gates will have the intelligence to be able see billionaires as rich men.




 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 12:53 PM
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Be sure to watch Kerry try to worm his was out of this fiasco during his "major speech" tomorrow.

Kerry is trying hard to catch up with Hillary Clinton as the most unaccomplished Sec. of State in U.S. history.
Some folks will notice tomorrow that his boss, obama the failure, will not be standing by Kerry's side.



You do know that a sizeable percentage of Palestinians are Christian and they live on land that they have occupied since the time of Jesus? One can say that what the Romans started the Republicans will finish and totally destroy the Christian presence in the Holy Land.

And what did Jesus say about the new billionaires you are now worshipping getting into heaven?



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The genocide committed against Christians in the Middle East is perpetrated by Islamic Extremist Terrorist and often while obama refused to help.

Jesus never said anything about billionaires as they did not exist in His time.



There may be some basis for the first statement but there are Christians through out the Middle East, including a very large population among Palestinians both in Palestine and in exile. You seem to only care about using Christians for political purposes against Obama. That's very selective.

I am sure the Angels at the Pearly Gates will have the intelligence to be able see billionaires as rich men.





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The genocide against Christians in the Middle East is perpetrated by Islamic Extremist Terrorists with obama's support.

Now you have changed your statement about billionaires to "rich men". A statement that evolves discredits the statement.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 04:07 PM
Kerry rips ‘settler agenda’ in speech defending UN vote, Israeli PM fires back
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/28/kerry-defends-us-role-in-uns-isr ael-censure-amid-backlash.html

This Two State Solution will never work as long as one side is sworn to destroy the other.

The Palestinian government refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist.

End of the discussion.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 04:17 PM
$38 Billion in direct military aid, the largest amount of any United States administration......Obama hates Netanyahu, not Israel.
 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 04:21 PM
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Kerry rips ‘settler agenda’ in speech defending UN vote, Israeli PM fires back
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/28/kerry-defends-us-role-in-uns-isr ael-censure-amid-backlash.html

This Two State Solution will never work as long as one side is sworn to destroy the other.

The Palestinian government refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist.

End of the discussion.



The State of Palestine recognized Israel in 1993. Israel has not recognized the State of Palestine.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 04:26 PM
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Kerry rips ‘settler agenda’ in speech defending UN vote, Israeli PM fires back
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/28/kerry-defends-us-role-in-uns-isr ael-censure-amid-backlash.html

This Two State Solution will never work as long as one side is sworn to destroy the other.

The Palestinian government refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist.

End of the discussion.



The State of Palestine recognized Israel in 1993. Israel has not recognized the State of Palestine.

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Wrong.
The Palestinian government refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist.

 

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The State of Palestine recognized Israel in 1993. Israel has not recognized the State of Palestine.

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The Palestinian government refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist.



Nope. They recognized it in 1993, days prior to the Oslo Accords.

What you are referring to is Israel's more recent demand to be recognized as a "Jewish State", which Netanyahu insisted that Israel be recognized as in 2009. It may seem like semantics, but to Palestinian refugees, it could mean giving up their claim for their homeland. For Palestinian citizens of Israel, it could potentially justify removal. It would all be very silly if it weren't all so tragic.

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 05:48 PM
With regards to the last post and the response to mine above it is more than semantics.

Israel was for a two state solution in 1948. It was refused. Since the Sinai war in 67 it has been almost 50 years of aggression against Israel followed by Israel returning land. Not all I agree. So Israel has increased somewhat in size in response to wars started not by that country. The US annexed large parts of its territory by starting its own hostilities.

There needs to be bilateral negotiation in the mid east. Seems that there is a difference as to which side is the impediment.

Yeah; the US gives Israel money,. It is the only democracy in the Mid East. The only ally we can trust.

So plan a trip to all the countries in the Mid East. Walk down the street and say "F88k you your mother and your government." Guarantee you that only after returning from Israel will you still have the need for a hat

 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 05:52 PM
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The State of Palestine recognized Israel in 1993. Israel has not recognized the State of Palestine.

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The Palestinian government refuses to recognize Israel’s right to exist.



Nope. They recognized it in 1993, days prior to the Oslo Accords.

What you are referring to is Israel's more recent demand to be recognized as a "Jewish State", which Netanyahu insisted that Israel be recognized as in 2009. It may seem like semantics, but to Palestinian refugees, it could mean giving up their claim for their homeland. For Palestinian citizens of Israel, it could potentially justify removal. It would all be very silly if it weren't all so tragic.

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Crap.
In 1993 they recognized Israel under PLO conditions, interpretations and borders.
And then of course launched thousands of rockets in to Israel.


 

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  posted on 12/28/2016 at 07:03 PM
would peace come to the borders of israel with a 2 state solution? would peace and the start of a 2 state solution start with settlements? would israel be easier to strike with a stronger palestine? would israel be safer taking over the disputed territory?

i understand the questions and have watched for as many years as the rest of you.

this is still way below my pay grade.....that full scale war is not happening with current circumstances......is a good thing.

i'll let the experts go back at it now

 

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