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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 12:53 PM
Foreign Policy




Environment



Women's rights

as


Church and State




Job opportunities for people of color




Free public transportation to jobsite




Free housing for the gainfully employed




Law and Order




Illegal Immigration



Homeless, gay, dissident, defective, etc....




The Middle East



 
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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 01:24 PM
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The Middle East





Fine with me.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:05 PM
LOL...a few of those are a little over the top.

But I have to admit that after all the fear mongering at the RNC last week, when Trump declared "I alone can fix it" and "I am your voice" it left me a little uneasy. I'm not saying Trump would be a dictator but his speech sounded like what you'd expect a dictator to say.

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:12 PM
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Fine with me.

Really? Then Trump is your man.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:15 PM
You are all so wrong, but if you want to see the rest of your Constitution and your rights under that ignored, destroyed, by all means vote Democratic. If you like the corruption that has been rampant in more than one agency under the Democratic guidance (scrubbed emails on a private server of a high level government official who is then exonerated, even though 333 emails were deleted before the FBI could look at them), by all means vote Democratic.

If you want to see us stay in Syria and covertly help Isis because they promise to take out Assad, by all means vote Democratic. If you want to see more American jobs go abroad while people here cannot even find one or get downsized, by all means vote Democratic.

If you like the health care initiatiave whereby you are FORCED to buy coverage that charges you a minimal 5,000 deductible before they pay out 60% of the usual customary fee on the fees you have been charged and you have to pay the rest, by all means vote Democratic, they think this is wonderful and want to continue this policy.

If you don't care that people in this country cannot afford their out of pocket fees under the Medicare coverage, vote Democratic, too bad for senior Americans.

If you don't care that they raid the Social Security trust fund to pay for proxy wars in other countries, vote Democratic. They'll keep doing it.

If you think it is perfectly fine for the US to go anywhere in the world and assassinate anyone with drones and then after the fact inform the other country that we have helped them out, VOTE Democratic. That is part of our foreign policy.

I could go on but you get the idea.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:28 PM
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You are all so wrong, but if you want to see the rest of your Constitution and your rights under that ignored, destroyed, by all means vote Democratic. If you like the corruption that has been rampant in more than one agency under the Democratic guidance (scrubbed emails on a private server of a high level government official who is then exonerated, even though 333 emails were deleted before the FBI could look at them), by all means vote Democratic.

If you want to see us stay in Syria and covertly help Isis because they promise to take out Assad, by all means vote Democratic. If you want to see more American jobs go abroad while people here cannot even find one or get downsized, by all means vote Democratic.

If you like the health care initiatiave whereby you are FORCED to buy coverage that charges you a minimal 5,000 deductible before they pay out 60% of the usual customary fee on the fees you have been charged and you have to pay the rest, by all means vote Democratic, they think this is wonderful and want to continue this policy.

If you don't care that people in this country cannot afford their out of pocket fees under the Medicare coverage, vote Democratic, too bad for senior Americans.

If you don't care that they raid the Social Security trust fund to pay for proxy wars in other countries, vote Democratic. They'll keep doing it.

If you think it is perfectly fine for the US to go anywhere in the world and assassinate anyone with drones and then after the fact inform the other country that we have helped them out, VOTE Democratic. That is part of our foreign policy.

I could go on but you get the idea.


"You are all so wrong"...so Gina, does that mean that you are so right?

I assume you respect and agree with the degrading and disgusting things he has said about your fellow women? I don't get how any woman with self respect could consider voting for Trump.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:31 PM
"Some reasons to think twice before you vote for this clown"

Dammit!...I thought this was going to be a Hillary thread....

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:35 PM
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Fine with me.


This is maybe the foulest, most vile, most stupid, most shameful post I've seen on this site. And that's saying something. To be fine with the annihilation of a region filled overwhelmingly with people who have nothing to do with the terrorism, who just want to make it through from morning to night with their children safe, but have the unforgivable misfortune to have been born in another part of the world under a different delusion of religion (albeit no different than any other fundamentalist nonsense) and with darker skin shows you to be … I don't even have descriptors.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:38 PM
As to being so right, the facts are the facts - I stated what changes occurred under the Democratic party leadership over their reign in office. I do not agree with those policies.

As to Trump, I don't understand why he has reportedly said some of the things he has said about women, but I know other women who have come forth and given testimonials that he has done wonderful things for them (in their lives).

There are good and bad people in the world, I think he has met people like that from both sides. Perhaps the remarks he has made regarding women (the bad remarks) were referring to women who were low life skanks. If he mistreated all women, he would not have a super model wife, an adoring daughter, many women in his organization who work for him and are loyal to him. I did hear the exchange between him and Megyn Kelly during the early Presidential debates and I did not like it, I did not think it was appropriate, I think it just came out that way. He could have said, look Megyn, why are you ragging on me, are you bleeding with cramps, is that what your problem is and you are taking it out on me? But he said it in a different way. Should he have said that? No.

Is he always politically correct? No, he speaks his mind, he is not a politician, he is a strategist and A superb Administrative Executive and that is what America needs.



[Edited on 7/23/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:43 PM
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The Middle East



You should see what the war dept of our govt. plans. If we go to war with Iran, they estimated 28 MILLION people Mostly in Iran,( but I ain't liking the fallout on the Afghans)would be killed in ONE day and that was okay with them. They estimate the Iranians could kill 200,000 - 800,000 Israelis, but with our help on Israel's behalf we would kill 28,000,000 (MILLION) Iranians and others.


"Consider “Persian”ethnic strike option; send clear message cannot strike at Israel and survive.
–Inflict 16,000,000 to 28,000,000 prompt to 21-day dead; long term death rate cannot be calculated.
–Israeli recovery theoreticallypossible in population and economic terms."

https://csis-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/legacy_files/files/media/csi s/pubs/071119_iran.is%26nuclearwar.pdf





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[Edited on 7/23/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:56 PM
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As to being so right, the facts are the facts - I stated what changes occurred under the Democratic party leadership over their reign in office. I do not agree with those policies.

As to Trump, I don't understand why he has reportedly said some of the things he has said about women, but I know other women who have come forth and given testimonials that he has done wonderful things for them (in their lives).

There are good and bad people in the world, I think he has met people like that from both sides. Perhaps the remarks he has made regarding women (the bad remarks) were referring to women who were low life skanks. If he mistreated all women, he would not have a super model wife, an adoring daughter, many women in his organization who work for him and are loyal to him. I did hear the exchange between him and Megyn Kelly during the early Presidential debates and I did not like it, I did not think it was appropriate, I think it just came out that way. He could have said, look Megyn, why are you ragging on me, are you bleeding with cramps, is that what your problem is and you are taking it out on me? But he said it in a different way. Should he have said that? No.

Is he always politically correct? No, he speaks his mind, he is not a politician, he is a strategist and A superb Administrative Executive and that is what America needs.



[Edited on 7/23/2016 by gina]


That's quite the round about way of giving him cover. You really need to read up a bit more on his statements about woman. There's quite a list. Why does someone have to make so many disgusting statements about women? You've provided a great job of rationalizations, justifications, and excuses for the ego driven misogynist.

The fact that you even make a statement such as, "He could have said, look Megyn, why are you ragging on me, are you bleeding with cramps, is that what your problem is and you are taking it out on me?" shows me all I need to know. Very nice...great substitute wording..."bleeding cramps" puts you in the playpen right along with Trump.






 

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Trump and Clinton are equally hawkish on the Middle East. Trump will support Israel same as any president, Democrat or Republican, it is US policy, has zero to do with party politics.

I don't know how you get this idea that Trump is not going to support Israel. He seems more likely to start a big war than Clinton, and possibly just nuke Iran.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 03:08 PM
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You've provided a great job of rationalizations, justifications, and excuses for the ego driven misogynist.


The funny thing is, people like Gina are better protected by tolerant and liberal humanist policies. Gina would last about half a day in the political religious and cultural world of extremely strict conservative Sharia law that (s)he admires so much. A complicated creature. It appears to rise and fall with the estrogen injections.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 03:10 PM
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As to being so right, the facts are the facts - I stated what changes occurred under the Democratic party leadership over their reign in office. I do not agree with those policies.

As to Trump, I don't understand why he has reportedly said some of the things he has said about women, but I know other women who have come forth and given testimonials that he has done wonderful things for them (in their lives).

There are good and bad people in the world, I think he has met people like that from both sides. Perhaps the remarks he has made regarding women (the bad remarks) were referring to women who were low life skanks. If he mistreated all women, he would not have a super model wife, an adoring daughter, many women in his organization who work for him and are loyal to him. I did hear the exchange between him and Megyn Kelly during the early Presidential debates and I did not like it, I did not think it was appropriate, I think it just came out that way. He could have said, look Megyn, why are you ragging on me, are you bleeding with cramps, is that what your problem is and you are taking it out on me? But he said it in a different way. Should he have said that? No.

Is he always politically correct? No, he speaks his mind, he is not a politician, he is a strategist and A superb Administrative Executive and that is what America needs.



[Edited on 7/23/2016 by gina]


That's quite the round about way of giving him cover. You really need to read up a bit more on his statements about woman. There's quite a list. Why does someone have to make so many disgusting statements about women? You've provided a great job of rationalizations, justifications, and excuses for the ego driven misogynist.

The fact that you even make a statement such as, "He could have said, look Megyn, why are you ragging on me, are you bleeding with cramps, is that what your problem is and you are taking it out on me?" shows me all I need to know. Very nice...great substitute wording..."bleeding cramps" puts you in the playpen right along with Trump.

I remember him saying he did not know why she was being harsh with him, I remember him saying 'Megyn I've been very nice to you, I don't know why you are treating me like this' then he went on to say those things trying to find a reason why he was being attacked because he did not start an argument with her, but he was getting aggravated. In a way he was even saying, that if she had a physical reason he could understand it and cut her some slack. He just wanted her to know he was not going to be mistreated all night long.

But if you have a bunch of comments of terrible things he has said, put them up, put them up in full context if possible because anyone can take one liners or half one liners and then say he meant something that he did NOT actually mean. My perception of him from seeing him speak is that he is passionate, can be fierce when necessary, is smart, persistent, and gets things done. He is effective, has integrity, and sacrificed a nice lifestyle to do something for everyone else, to fix the country and the problems. Hey the job doesn't pay more than makes at his current job as CEO of the Trump Organization, he doesn't need to pal around with Washington people to feel important, he could have already been doing that if that's what he wanted. No, this time, this is for America, to do what no one else has the balls to do. Stand up to the status quo, call things what they are, fix them and restore America. Stop ripping the Constitution and taking people's rights away and giving them to the govt. This is one of the greatest times in history and he realizes how serious the times are, that is why he ran for office. Someone has to fix it, He Will.





 

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As to being so right, the facts are the facts - I stated what changes occurred under the Democratic party leadership over their reign in office. I do not agree with those policies.

As to Trump, I don't understand why he has reportedly said some of the things he has said about women, but I know other women who have come forth and given testimonials that he has done wonderful things for them (in their lives).

There are good and bad people in the world, I think he has met people like that from both sides. Perhaps the remarks he has made regarding women (the bad remarks) were referring to women who were low life skanks. If he mistreated all women, he would not have a super model wife, an adoring daughter, many women in his organization who work for him and are loyal to him. I did hear the exchange between him and Megyn Kelly during the early Presidential debates and I did not like it, I did not think it was appropriate, I think it just came out that way. He could have said, look Megyn, why are you ragging on me, are you bleeding with cramps, is that what your problem is and you are taking it out on me? But he said it in a different way. Should he have said that? No.

Is he always politically correct? No, he speaks his mind, he is not a politician, he is a strategist and A superb Administrative Executive and that is what America needs.



[Edited on 7/23/2016 by gina]


That's quite the round about way of giving him cover. You really need to read up a bit more on his statements about woman. There's quite a list. Why does someone have to make so many disgusting statements about women? You've provided a great job of rationalizations, justifications, and excuses for the ego driven misogynist.

The fact that you even make a statement such as, "He could have said, look Megyn, why are you ragging on me, are you bleeding with cramps, is that what your problem is and you are taking it out on me?" shows me all I need to know. Very nice...great substitute wording..."bleeding cramps" puts you in the playpen right along with Trump.

I remember him saying he did not know why she was being harsh with him, I remember him saying 'Megyn I've been very nice to you, I don't know why you are treating me like this' then he went on to say those things trying to find a reason why he was being attacked because he did not start an argument with her, but he was getting aggravated. In a way he was even saying, that if she had a physical reason he could understand it and cut her some slack. He just wanted her to know he was not going to be mistreated all night long.

But if you have a bunch of comments of terrible things he has said, put them up, put them up in full context if possible because anyone can take one liners or half one liners and then say he meant something that he did NOT actually mean. My perception of him from seeing him speak is that he is passionate, can be fierce when necessary, is smart, persistent, and gets things done. He is effective, has integrity, and sacrificed a nice lifestyle to do something for everyone else, to fix the country and the problems. Hey the job doesn't pay more than makes at his current job as CEO of the Trump Organization, he doesn't need to pal around with Washington people to feel important, he could have already been doing that if that's what he wanted. No, this time, this is for America, to do what no one else has the balls to do. Stand up to the status quo, call things what they are, fix them and restore America. Stop ripping the Constitution and taking people's rights away and giving them to the govt. This is one of the greatest times in history and he realizes how serious the times are, that is why he ran for office. Someone has to fix it, He Will.








Just more of the same from you. You want full context - Use Google, & you'll find more than enough...well maybe not enough for you to admit that he degrades women and convince you because you seem to be drunk on Trump. Hey, sorry, but I think he's a pig. Not one woman I know respects him. I'll give you this - not many women would defend him like you do...so you must be special or just see things that most people don't get.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 03:39 PM
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Fine with me.


Lets hope it doesnt come down to this. Is it crazy to think a scenario plays out of a middle east group getting their hands on a nuke?
If so, i agree with this solution to save 'merica.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 05:56 PM
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Fine with me.

Lol. So not surprised.

 

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