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  posted on 7/21/2016 at 05:48 PM
The candidates (Trump or Hillary) are very different. Hillary's views are in line with the New World Order. Donald's are traditional, conservative, put America first. Hillary's are global. Remember General Wesley Clark saying that he could not believe at the meeting he was at that he was told we would be going to war with seven countries in five years. Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran

Well, we have been to Libya, we have been to Iraq, we have been to Syria, and we are going to Somalia next year if the Democrats win the election, the Sudan will come after that and Iran and Lebanon will be after that. it is a furtherance on the policy called Operation Clean Break, a plan to destabilize the Middle East and the create other states.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years -iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166


IF the New World Order succeeds in having their candidate elected, Iran is a nuclear armed country, yet people in our govt. planned on going to war with them anyway as part of foreign policy strategy. Iran is backed by Russia, so if we attack Iran, Russia will retaliate against us. Is the the future we want for America?

 

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  posted on 7/21/2016 at 06:04 PM
The new world order supporters/members have been running things in our govt. for quite awhile. They were there in the Bush admin, running things behind George's back. Example, Cheney had his own private National Security Meetings at 4:30 am, the meeting with Bush was at 7:30 am. Why did Cheney feel he needed his own private meeting?

Foreign policy wise, we train and fund and provide weapons to terror groups and then when Americans are fighting in other countries we deny that we do that. Britain has their MI-5 for threats against their homeland and the MI-6 for international problems. We have a National Guard that is to protect people within our borders, and we have proxy armies (Al Qaida and Isis) that are used to create events to justify our involvement in the affairs of other countries.

Britain is at least up front and honest about it. Everyone knows about the MI-5 and MI-6. We have the CIA but theyj just say they collect intelligence and then direct military people to act on that. We hired Al Qaida (Soviet Afghan war, etc) Why not just call them the AQ Army and tell the world they are our version of the MI-6. That is really the reality of it; although since they are fairly disgusted with the US now, it looks like we utilize Isis. Isis was there in Libya, and nobody cared who took out Qaddafi, the Syrian Army did not have the capacity to do much of anything. The money, weapons we sent to rebels in Libya, we have to stop dancing around the realities. Other govts. admit they have intelligence/assassination squads, why do we deny that we do?

This is part of our govt., this is part of how it functions. Why is there so much subterfuge and deceipt? The New World Order aficionados wanted to help other countries with their 'terrorism' problems, so we sent our drones to their countries and assassinated some of their nationals. Then they had enough of it, so now they just buy the planes and want to do it themselves, they do not want us there doing it anymore. (Pakistan and Saudi Arabia). We never should have went there in the first place, except for that desire, go to war with seven countries in five years.

You really need to think about what kind of America you want, you may not get it, but you really need to think about the things you want to happen, and the things you don't.


[Edited on 7/22/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 7/21/2016 at 06:15 PM
This is interesting. Trump said he might not defend ALL the NATO allies, unless they have "fulfilled their obligation to us".

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/21/trump-nato-protection-russia/?shared=e mail&msg=fail

I wonder what the standards and criteria will be.

 

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  posted on 7/21/2016 at 06:49 PM

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

David Spangler,
Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations


“Lucifer is literally the angel of experience. Lucifer, then, is neither good or bad in his true essence. He is completely neutral. He is an agent of God’s love acting through evolution.”
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/david_spangler.html


That's right, Director of the Planetary Initiative at the United Nations.

 

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  posted on 7/21/2016 at 06:52 PM
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order. ” – David Rockefeller

“Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful.”– Henry Kissinger

As Kissinger suggests, the new order will not come in like a third-world coup, with the blatant imposition of military force. Rather, the conditions are to be created so that the NWO will appear to be a welcome salvation for humanity. It would be surprising if any other approach had been adopted. It has always been the practice of the US establishment to bring public opinion enthusiastically onside to their global-scale projects. In both world wars, for example, the dominant economic elites orchestrated the buildup to the wars, great care was taken so that the designated enemies would be seen as the aggressors. As a result, populations put their hearts and souls into the war effort. Not only were they ‘defending’ themselves, they were ‘fighting a war to end all wars’, or they were ‘defeating fascism’.




[Edited on 7/21/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 7/21/2016 at 07:03 PM
There are people that have plans for this world, putting themselves at the top and everyone else at the bottom in eternal servitude. If that's not the kind of America you want, you will have to get involved with politics at the local levels, elect people who will not be bought or corrupted, and you have to not accept what news media that is controlled tells you. Everyone is not in agreement with the nwo. Everyone will not go along with it, but there will be more who do go along, than those who don't. Just be aware of these things. Worry solves nothing, fear just paralyses you, make your vow to prevail as a free person.

Start thinking about what things you want for America, and ask your candidates if that is what they want, and how do they plan to achieve it, or work towards it? If they just give you politico speak and tell you nothing, don't vote for them. There is still time to change things.



 

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  posted on 7/21/2016 at 10:54 PM
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David Spangler,
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That's right, Director of the Planetary Initiative at the United Nations.


This is total BS. David Spangler is a New Age author and philosopher. Got his start at Findhorn in Scotland. Evil Findhorn, I bet you would like to see them burn. Peaceful people who believe in nature spirits and grow huge bumper crops of amazingly huge vegetables, in Scotland where it is hard to grow anything. They share everything and help each other. OoOh, commie witches!!!!! Better burn em and make the world safe for militaristic Christian and Muslim nutjobs.

There is no Planetary Initiative at the United Nations. Post one non-whackjob source that even mentions a United Nations Planetary Initiative. No, not pastebin or forbiddenknowledge or irregulartimes or any of the other dung heaps you buzz around.



 

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  posted on 7/22/2016 at 09:43 AM
I just looked it up, it now makes sense. The NWO conspiracy crowd has somehow convinced itself that Donald Trump isn't a member of the "global elite."

HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

 

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  posted on 7/22/2016 at 01:39 PM
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Worry solves nothing, fear just paralyses you


Ok, then that must be why you will never solve anything and are totally paralyzed.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:29 PM
Oh contrare, I think you know I work behind the scenes and help change the world for the better. Even if on some days it is only to wake up one person so eventually they don't go down the wrong road. Some victories are small and subtle, but that's okay.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:43 PM
Seems kind of an ego-trip. Like you are all-knowing and on the inside track and helping all those misguided people down below up to your lofty heights.
 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:46 PM
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Seems kind of an ego-trip. Like you are all-knowing and on the inside track and helping all those misguided people down below up to your lofty heights.

To paraphrase the Donald, "Gina alone can fix it."

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:49 PM
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It's "au contraire".

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 02:56 PM
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Seems kind of an ego-trip. Like you are all-knowing and on the inside track and helping all those misguided people down below up to your lofty heights.

To paraphrase the Donald, "Gina alone can fix it."


Well not really, the time will come when people may have to take to the streets to save their lives, their cities, and when some of your fellow countrymen ask, how you know certain things, you'll say 'I learned it on the Whippin' Post'.

 

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It's "au contraire".


Yes it is, I was better when I was in French class for three years.

 

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  posted on 7/23/2016 at 03:17 PM
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Well not really, the time will come when people may have to take to the streets to save their lives, their cities, and when some of your fellow countrymen ask, how you know certain things, you'll say 'I learned it on the Whippin' Post'.


Uh-huh. And what have you learned on the Whippin' Post? Or has it all been just a cornucopia of priceless wisdom from you?

I guarantee you, if push comes to shove and we are trying to salvage community in hard times, the LAST thing I would want to hear is the religious and paranoid toxicity that you bring. Anyone spewing that crap would be driven out into the wasteland the minute they started babbling about all that.

 

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  posted on 7/24/2016 at 03:05 PM

I learn things all the time, the same as everyone else does. I also think that
If push comes to shove you'll become religious real fast because he is the only one that will be able to provide any help of a lasting nature.

[Edited on 7/24/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 7/25/2016 at 03:06 PM
Are you religious? Christian, Muslim, Jew, what? Despite all your lip-service to the Abrahamic cults, you never say what your religion is. If you don't subscribe to any particular religion, then they cancel out and you are not religious, although you may start your own out of all your ideas, I suppose. Religions are certain sets of codified beliefs, not a jumble of all religions. Unless you take that jumble and build your own set of beliefs and stick with them. The First Church of Gina. However, once you do that, you will be at odds with all the religions you spout, and will have to defend your particular view.
 

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  posted on 7/25/2016 at 03:27 PM
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Are you religious? Christian, Muslim, Jew, what? Despite all your lip-service to the Abrahamic cults, you never say what your religion is. If you don't subscribe to any particular religion, then they cancel out and you are not religious, although you may start your own out of all your ideas, I suppose. Religions are certain sets of codified beliefs, not a jumble of all religions. Unless you take that jumble and build your own set of beliefs and stick with them. The First Church of Gina. However, once you do that, you will be at odds with all the religions you spout, and will have to defend your particular view.

I know you're talking to Gina, and I'd be interested in her response as well, but meanwhile I'll weigh in. I prefer Spiritual folks to Religious folks. Most Religious folks I've come across are not at all Spiritual. Spiritual people may or may not be Religious. They do not feel threatened by people who hold different beliefs. They also do not feel the need to defend their particular views. They don't have the urge to convert people to their belief system. They often do not feel the need to be as member of a larger group. They are comfortable with who they are. They do not need validation by others.

 

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  posted on 7/25/2016 at 03:31 PM
Religions have changed and evolved. Look at the Bible, the Old Testament changed when the New Testament was revealed, are you gonna say that Jesus did not have a right to give the guidance there, since the Old Testament was guidance that God gave to Abraham, Moses, and the others?

There is one God, his laws are the same for all his people. Religions have changed their laws, but even in the Quran it is written in more than one place that neither the Jews, the Sabians or the Christians will have anything to fear or regret if they follow what was given to them. The original guidance was not convert or die. The original guidance given to those who founded Islam was for that group of people. Throughout history there were evil leaders who sought to do away with any religion, (examples the Romans during Christ's life, the evil Egyptian taskmasters during Joseph and Moses' lives). I believe in the true guidance that was given to each of the groups, and I know, in the END of the END times, there will be unity among the three groups of correct believing people because millions, upon millions will be slaughtered and done away with in wars, natural disasters and God's own punishments of groups of people. I know how many people will be there when Jesus returns to Syria (the Prophet is Islam, peace be upon him, revealed this to his followers). Jesus will return to lead the group of pious people in the fight against the anti-Christ, less than 1,000 men, with 80,000 troops coming to kill him (Jesus) because they will say he is a terrorist and is not who he claims to be; but he will not falter, and he will not fail, and the mujahids that go with him won't either. Less than 1,000 men against the anti-Christ and the world army of 80,000 troops, yet they will prevail because God is greater than any force on earth, he does not have to prove it, but he will.



[Edited on 7/25/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 7/26/2016 at 05:58 PM
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Are you religious? Christian, Muslim, Jew, what? Despite all your lip-service to the Abrahamic cults, you never say what your religion is. If you don't subscribe to any particular religion, then they cancel out and you are not religious, although you may start your own out of all your ideas, I suppose. Religions are certain sets of codified beliefs, not a jumble of all religions. Unless you take that jumble and build your own set of beliefs and stick with them. The First Church of Gina. However, once you do that, you will be at odds with all the religions you spout, and will have to defend your particular view.

I know you're talking to Gina, and I'd be interested in her response as well, but meanwhile I'll weigh in. I prefer Spiritual folks to Religious folks. Most Religious folks I've come across are not at all Spiritual. Spiritual people may or may not be Religious. They do not feel threatened by people who hold different beliefs. They also do not feel the need to defend their particular views. They don't have the urge to convert people to their belief system. They often do not feel the need to be as member of a larger group. They are comfortable with who they are. They do not need validation by others.


I should have said that when push comes to shove people will get some FAITH real fast, because religions have changed. Jesus himself will do away with religions when he comes back and the world will go back to his laws which is what is was in the first place.

 

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