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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 11:30 AM
Disgusting display. This behavior is going to backfire and have more people rally around Trump.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2002680

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/watch-trump-rally-in-san-jose-ends-with-lat est-clash-between-demonstrators-and-supporters/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svaGiSj8Pdo&feature=youtu.be



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I didn't like seeing the violence either.

here is the mayor's full statement.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_29974398/san-jose-mayor-sam-lic cardo-reacts-violence-after

San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo released the following statement about the violence that occurred after the Donald Trump rally Thursday night at the convention center:

"San Jose police officers performed admirably and professionally to contain acts of violence and protect individuals' rights to assemble, protest and express their political views. While it's a sad statement about our political discourse that Mr. Trump has focused on stirring antagonism instead of offering real solutions to our nation's challenges, there is absolutely no place for violence against people who are simply exercising their rights to participate in the political process."

 

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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 12:58 PM
It's a big ol' confirmation bias world we live in these days.

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Politico reporter booted from Trump rally

By JILL COLVIN Associated Press JUNE 3, 2016 — 12:25PM

NEW YORK — A reporter from the news outlet Politico was ejected from a Donald Trump rally late Thursday — the latest sign of growing antagonism between the presumptive Republican presidential nominee and the press.

Politico reported that Ben Schreckinger had been typing on his laptop at the event at the San Jose Convention Center when he was approached by a Trump campaign staffer. After consulting with higher-ups, the aide and a private security staffer reportedly escorted Schreckinger out of the venue. Schreckinger had entered on a general admission ticket after repeatedly being denied press credentials for Trump events.

"I was removed from Donald Trump's rally tonight for practicing journalism without the campaign's permission," he wrote on Twitter.

The Trump campaign routinely denies credentials to outlets it deems unfriendly, including Politico, BuzzFeed and the Daily Beast. Reporters from those outlets often enter Trump events as members of the general public so that they can report.

Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks said in an emailed statement that the campaign was "looking into" the incident.

"As I told Politico, the campaign was not aware of this incident or the circumstances surrounding his removal. We are looking into it," she wrote.

Politico also reported that a second journalist, Carla Marinucci, was approached by a Trump staffer at the San Jose event. She was told she could stay, according to the outlet, as long as she did not "talk to people or interview them in general area where we sit."

Trump escalated his attacks on the media this week during a charged press conference where he dismissed the political press as dishonest and insulted specific reporters, calling out one as "sleazy."

Politico editor Susan Glasser said in a statement that the campaign's actions interfered with basic press rights.

"If this is an effort to squelch independent coverage of their campaign, it will not work," she said. "Such actions constitute a violation of the basic right of a free press to report and as such the Trump campaign has a responsibility to let journalists do their job.

http://www.startribune.com/politico-reporter-booted-from-trump-rally/381788 251/


 

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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 01:03 PM
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It's a big ol' confirmation bias world we live in these days.

quote:
Politico reporter booted from Trump rally

By JILL COLVIN Associated Press JUNE 3, 2016 — 12:25PM

NEW YORK — A reporter from the news outlet Politico was ejected from a Donald Trump rally late Thursday — the latest sign of growing antagonism between the presumptive Republican presidential nominee and the press.

Politico reported that Ben Schreckinger had been typing on his laptop at the event at the San Jose Convention Center when he was approached by a Trump campaign staffer. After consulting with higher-ups, the aide and a private security staffer reportedly escorted Schreckinger out of the venue. Schreckinger had entered on a general admission ticket after repeatedly being denied press credentials for Trump events.

"I was removed from Donald Trump's rally tonight for practicing journalism without the campaign's permission," he wrote on Twitter.

The Trump campaign routinely denies credentials to outlets it deems unfriendly, including Politico, BuzzFeed and the Daily Beast. Reporters from those outlets often enter Trump events as members of the general public so that they can report.

Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks said in an emailed statement that the campaign was "looking into" the incident.

"As I told Politico, the campaign was not aware of this incident or the circumstances surrounding his removal. We are looking into it," she wrote.

Politico also reported that a second journalist, Carla Marinucci, was approached by a Trump staffer at the San Jose event. She was told she could stay, according to the outlet, as long as she did not "talk to people or interview them in general area where we sit."

Trump escalated his attacks on the media this week during a charged press conference where he dismissed the political press as dishonest and insulted specific reporters, calling out one as "sleazy."

Politico editor Susan Glasser said in a statement that the campaign's actions interfered with basic press rights.

"If this is an effort to squelch independent coverage of their campaign, it will not work," she said. "Such actions constitute a violation of the basic right of a free press to report and as such the Trump campaign has a responsibility to let journalists do their job.

http://www.startribune.com/politico-reporter-booted-from-trump-rally/381788 251/




That pesky 1st amendment is obviously way too broad.

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I didn't like seeing the violence either.

here is the mayor's full statement.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_29974398/san-jose-mayor-sam-lic cardo-reacts-violence-after

San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo released the following statement about the violence that occurred after the Donald Trump rally Thursday night at the convention center:

"San Jose police officers performed admirably and professionally to contain acts of violence and protect individuals' rights to assemble, protest and express their political views. While it's a sad statement about our political discourse that Mr. Trump has focused on stirring antagonism instead of offering real solutions to our nation's challenges, there is absolutely no place for violence against people who are simply exercising their rights to participate in the political process."


I am with the mayor, there is no place for violence in politics. He's also right about Trump, they are not mutually exclusive.

And the title of this thread is not true.



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quote:
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I didn't like seeing the violence either.

here is the mayor's full statement.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_29974398/san-jose-mayor-sam-lic cardo-reacts-violence-after

San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo released the following statement about the violence that occurred after the Donald Trump rally Thursday night at the convention center:

"San Jose police officers performed admirably and professionally to contain acts of violence and protect individuals' rights to assemble, protest and express their political views. While it's a sad statement about our political discourse that Mr. Trump has focused on stirring antagonism instead of offering real solutions to our nation's challenges, there is absolutely no place for violence against people who are simply exercising their rights to participate in the political process."


I am with the mayor, there is no place for violence in politics. He's also right about Trump, they are not mutually exclusive.

And the title of this thread is not true.



[Edited on 6/3/2016 by gondicar]


If you watched the video of the protesters or more like rioters, you would see with your own eyes that citizens were not protected by law enforcement or see many arrests of the out of line protesters who were assaulting the attendees. THis is not the first Trump rally so the mayor must have been on another planet and is clearly incompetent. His little statement he released is a poor excuse for his failure.

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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 02:36 PM
The title of this thread is "California left condones violence on free speech." One mayor (incompetent maybe, condones violence on free speech not likely) does not constitute or represent everyone left of center in California which would include 7.5 million registered democrats and (I assume) a good portion of the 4.1 million registered as unaffiliated. The title of this thread is not true.

 

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I fixed the thread title so it is not misleading.

 

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I fixed the thread title so it is not misleading.


Ok, but it is still misleading. You said the mayor is incompetent because "THis is not the first Trump rally" and he should have seen it coming, but now its "shocking"? Also, I know some "California democrats" and none of them were within 100 miles of this event and certainly didn't commit shocking violence on free speech, nor would they.

 

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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 02:53 PM
I'm not seeing anyone on the "left" condoning violence here, other than a splinter group of so called "protesters." I'm not seeing anyone on the "left" offering to pay these moron's legal bills or anything like that.

I've said on here before that I don't support these idiot "protesters" and if you look on the comments on the coverage on a website such as SF Gate (affiliated with the San Francisco Chronicle) you will see that most Hillary and Bernie supporters don't support these violent protesters either.

I'd like to see every single one of these violent protesters arrested. If you look at videos from other sources you will also see some of the Trump protesters being violent as well. They should also be arrested. None of this violence is productive in any way. No votes are going to be changed because of it.

 

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I'd like to see every single one of these violent protesters arrested. If you look at videos from other sources you will also see some of the Trump protesters being violent as well. They should also be arrested. None of this violence is productive in any way. No votes are going to be changed because of it.


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  posted on 6/3/2016 at 05:13 PM
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I'd like to see every single one of these violent protesters arrested. If you look at videos from other sources you will also see some of the Trump protesters being violent as well. They should also be arrested. None of this violence is productive in any way. No votes are going to be changed because of it.


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However, it is easily understood that "you get what you give". What Trump has given since his primary race and proliferated into the general election is toxic rhetoric. It's easily understood to be cause & effect. Just examine all of his hateful speech aimed at our melting pot which evidently he has a problem with. Right out of Donald's mouth many many offensive things flow with ease. His words easily incite both sides. Is it any wonder that violence follows, and no one should back this, but Trump is to blame for his own trash talking. Sadly he has not proven that he can reel it any or has much else to offer. Below are a few samples found by quick searches - many of these things we heard in real time by watching his speeches.

For his part, Trump has a somewhat dubious record on how he has handled protesters at his rallies. He defended some of his fans for punching and kicking a #BlackLivesMatter protestor, saying “Maybe he should have been roughed up.”

Donald Trump on Smiling Protester: ‘I’d Like to Punch Him in the Face, during Nevada Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_WZGM6GSPA

Trump will 'look in to' paying legal bills for man who punched protester

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-stor y.html

Etc. etc., etc.





 

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I don't even know where to begin this time.

Trump on black supporter: 'Look at my African-American over here'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/politics/donald-trump-african-american/index. html

Watch the video and hear it for yourself. He also praises preemptive violence against protesters.

 

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Hmmmm, so if i understand the leftist media,

"My Nigga", is funny and cool but,

"My African-American" is racist?

The media lost me on this one. Dont you agree they are trying too hard to cut down our next President?

 

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Hmmmm, so if i understand the leftist media,

"My Nigga", is funny and cool but,

"My African-American" is racist?

The media lost me on this one. Dont you agree they are trying too hard to cut down our next President?

You can't tell the difference? I'm actually surprised by that.

 

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  posted on 6/4/2016 at 11:53 AM
Violence is always wrong whether it is the small minority of rabble rousing scum bags there just to cause trouble the other night or the Trump supporters who pushed around and roughed up that black lady at one of his rallies a couple of months ago. Both sides need to get a grip and the responsible and mature supporters on both sides need to take control and shield supporters of the other side from any kind of violence by the anarchists on both sides. The violent ones are a very small minority who are trying to cause disruption. In the case the other day the people caught throwing stuff and physically pushing that woman should have been apprehended and thrown in jail as should the Trump supporters who roughed up the black woman months back.

 

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This will get worse before it gets better if Trump doesn't stop the rabble rousing and the stupid and ignorant racial stereotypical comments that come out of his moronic pie hole day in and day out. The man is such a narcissistic sociopath that he has an inability to control himself. He is not a unifier. He is the polar opposite. He is a divider and he continues to divide day in and day out. His party claimed after Romney's loss last general election that they needed to unify and attract more of the Latino and African American and woman's votes but he continues to alienate them with every passing day doubling down on his immense stupidity. Sometimes I have to wonder if he really wants the job the way he acts? Maybe he didn't expect to get this far and is overwhelmed by the gravity of the situation he finds himself in. I think he is starting to realize that the lifestyle of the President is far different than the schedule he has as a billionaire businessman. He is so far in over his big fat ego head that he doesn't know what to do. He is like Sarah Palin in drag. If he were a serious candidate he would have realized his incredible weakness by now and instead of spending all of his time bragging about poll numbers at rallies and tweeting personal insults and calling people names like a child he would have been familiarizing himself with the major issues so that when Clinton devastated him with his own words in her speech he could have had something better and more substantive to come back with than Crooked Hilary this and I didn't say that when he was quoted saying every single thing she said. I am astounded at how this man can flat out lie, be shown and proven to be lying with documented evidence, and then double down on those lies insisting they aren't lies when the proof that they were lies is right in front of him. You could put a white piece of paper in front of him and he would say it is black and when pointed out that it is actually white he would insist that no it is black and his supporters don't care about that or his immature and boorish behavior. Still scratching my head as to why in the world Republicans would nominate such an incredibly dumb hack to hijack their party when they could have had a slam dunk victory with Kasich and all of those SCOTUS appointments. They made their bed with Trump and now they can live with that decision for years to come. The Republicans will never learn. They could have won both of the last elections as well as this one had they chosen the right candidates and allowed them to campaign as themselves. I will be back here again in November to pass out 'I told you sos' just like I was after the last two elections..

 

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  posted on 6/4/2016 at 11:58 AM
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Hmmmm, so if i understand the leftist media,

"My Nigga", is funny and cool but,

"My African-American" is racist?

The media lost me on this one. Dont you agree they are trying too hard to cut down our next President?


"My African American" is in poor taste. He wasn't Trumps' "anything" other than possibly a supporter. The need Trump felt to point him out says everything.

 

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Hmmmm, so if i understand the leftist media,

"My Nigga", is funny and cool but,

"My African-American" is racist?

The media lost me on this one. Dont you agree they are trying too hard to cut down our next President?


"My African American" is in poor taste. He wasn't Trumps' "anything" other than possibly a supporter. The need Trump felt to point him out says everything.


It is typical Trump. His comical and over the top pandering to groups whenever his weaknesses with those groups are pointed out are blatantly obvious. Just like the Veteran fund raiser after he pissed off Vets with the McCain POW comments and the Taco Bowl tweet when his low numbers with hispanics were pointed out. He will pander in an over the top way to whoever he thinks he can fool and he makes himself look ridiculous in the process. He does this because he has no real life clue!!! He has been so sheltered in his wealthy pampered life that he just doesn't know anything about common people and he shows that in spades every day with the dumb things he says about different groups of people. He would be Divider In Chief if elected.

 

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We are a nation whose leaders (and I mean all of them from the yes men and go alongs in the Congress and Senate all the way up and down the line) have allowed the governance of this country to legislate UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws. The Press is controlled by FIVE parent companies, the 'free press' of the 60's has been tamed, subdued and had their mouths shut in return for nice jobs, SUV's, homes and families. They have too much to lose and will not buck the status quo to stand up for truth and justice.

1. It is TRUE, Trump does not want negative press and his campaign probably has tried to oust known reporters who have a negative opinion of him and the campaign. While this is natural, he has to allow the opposing view. He is competent enough to issue a rebuttal to any of the remarks made and may need staff to monitor that stuff and get his direction on responses.

2. He needs to focus on the issues, not the personalities of the mud slingers. Ask specifically, what issue is it that you have an opinion on, or differ with me on? Answer Policy, not personal attacks.

3. Realize that our fundamental Constitutional rights have been violated and start focusing on that he will RESTORE those rights to Americans as part of his platform.

Example: Repeal the Patriot Act, create something that is fair, within and that has the guidelines of our Constitution in it.

Example: Stop allowing the NSA to harass Americans, ask Rand Paul for advice on that.

Example: Stop the plan/plot to move the United Nations to Jerusalem and make them the ONE WORLD ORDER, WORLD GOVERNING BODY.

Example: Develop a US Internal Affairs Investigative Agency that has the powers to investigate the broadly based National Intelligence Directorate and most definitely the crooked FBI agents who, in league with Homeland Security agents are currently ruining peoples lives based on persecution/bullshat secret evidence, and using those two agencies as gestapos against the American people. (secret spying, going into people's houses when they are not home, going to their jobs demanding tracking equipment be put on their work computers etc. you have no idea what these people are doing, like a secret police force it is sickening).

Return borders to the FBI, CIA, and other agencies who had their walls torn down by the National Intelligence Directorate to create this gulog hit squad against Americans. More than ONE MILLION AMERICANS on the terror watch list. What a bunch of crap. Let each agency operate independently, have their own internal affairs instead of being told it is all one big happy family now. Dismantle and revamp the office of Homeland Security, they are like parking meter cops on steroids, they are worse than the TSA agents at the airport, all they do is take orders and believe what they are told. They are puppets and the evil sobs pulling their strings.

REOPEN the 911 investigation by a truly independent team. Look at and answer the questions raised by architechts, engineers, military personnel who believe the OFFICIAL STORY to be a boatload of crap and cover up.

America was founded as a land where the people wanted to be free from tyranny. Well what do we have now? Secret police, secret watch lists, secret hit lists, civilian internment camps [concentration camps] built, staffed to put America's own people in there if they complain about their govt. or their loss of rights. Funding the enemy with weapons and money to fight dirty little proxy wars, taking out world leaders of other countries because they don't want to do trade deals with us. Refusing to even allow people to practice their religion in peace, changing the definition of marriage on a national basis, telling people there will be no more male, female bathrooms, males can go in the female bathroom as long as they 'feel like' they are a woman and identify with that gender. You can have little boys in the female gym lockerrooms just because they are confused with their sexuality. Well enough is enough.

Somebody has to stand up and the only one doing it is Trump. Is he perfect? No. Is anyone? No.
Will he make mistakes? Yes. But at least he will try to restore America to what it once was. The other candidates (even those who have fallen by the wayside) just wanted to continue on with the ideas of the new world order.



 

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  posted on 6/4/2016 at 02:31 PM
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Somebody has to stand up and the only one doing it is Trump. Is he perfect? No. Is anyone? No.
Will he make mistakes? Yes. But at least he will try to restore America to what it once was. The other candidates (even those who have fallen by the wayside) just wanted to continue on with the ideas of the new world order.


Exactly. It's the new world order thingy that has me thinking maybe Trump is the way to go.

 

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Tired of people saying 'restore America to what it once was'.... what the hell does that even mean?

 

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Tired of people saying 'restore America to what it once was'.... what the hell does that even mean?

Jim Crow?

 

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  posted on 6/4/2016 at 03:19 PM
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He would be Divider In Chief if elected.


I think the current state of "Political correctness" has done more to divide this country than any candidate might ever dream of....



This photo was snapped at the Trump"rally" in San Jose the other night... My question is..."Why are there Mexican Flags being waved"?

If Mexico is so great, why did you leave it?
If your fear of Trump is one of being deported, why are you presenting the Flag of the country you have no desire to return to?
If this country provides you with opportunities you desire, why are you not waving the Stars and Stripes?
Why the masks?

I know, I know, these questions are just not PC....

But they are worthy of an answer.

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He would be Divider In Chief if elected.


I think the current state of "Political correctness" has done more to divide this country than any candidate might ever dream of....



This photo was snapped at the Trump"rally" in San Jose the other night... My question is..."Why are there Mexican Flags being waved"?

If Mexico is so great, why did you leave it?
If your fear of Trump is one of being deported, why are you presenting the Flag of the country you have no desire to return to?
If this country provides you with opportunities you desire, why are you not waving the Stars and Stripes?
Why the masks?

I know, I know, these questions are just not PC....

But they are worthy of an answer.

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Do you have the same objection to Irish flags being carried during St. Patrick's Day parades? Italian flags on Columbus Day? Or is it just Mexicans that you oppose?

 
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