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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 01:24 PM
There is so much being said about him, but what matters is his positions, his plans and what he WILL do when elected. If you don't agree with his ideas, okay, but at least give them some consideration. Also how the delegates are selected by the GOP.

https://www.gop.com/the-official-guide-to-the-2016-republican-nominating-pr ocess/

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions


We'll start with Health Care

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

1. He wants to repeal Obamacare which forces people to buy (co-pay) into coverage or pay tax penalties. The Obamacare coverage provides 60%, 70% and 80% of the Usual Customary Charges the insurance companies think is far. You are responsible for the other 40, 30, or 20 per cent of the fees. With the insurance co pay fees each month, plus that, most people in need of insurance cannot afford it.

2. Businesses can deduct the cost of the health care coverage from their taxes, Trump's initiative will allow you, the private person to deduct the cost of your coverage off YOUR taxes. IF you choose to have coverage, you will NOT BE FORCED to have coverage that you cannot afford to buy.

3. Recognizing people cannot afford Obamacare or other insurance, he wants to make changes that put the burden of competing for you to want to buy coverage on the insurance companies, driving their fees to you down. Make it affordable to you, AND give you a choice.

4. Health Savings Accounts, currently you can have them but you have to use the money in it within a year, under Trump's initiatives the money put in there can be deducted off your taxes, and can build up and accumulate over more than just one year.

5. Block Grant Medicaid to the States, instead of the federal govt. running it, let the states. Give the states the money, and make them responsible for doling it out and creating programs that work for them. Bernie Sanders created affordable health care in Vermont, the rest of the country could follow his example, or create their own.

6. Cost effective drugs, if Canada's quality is just as good, why can't we be allowed to buy it from them?

Now what's wrong with his health care reform ideas?







[Edited on 4/14/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 01:28 PM
TAX REFORM - I'm definitely liking his ideas for that.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

1. If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

2. All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.

3 .No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.

4. No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.

How He Will Pay For These Things:

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:


1.Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.

2.A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.

3.Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


See the webpage for additional info.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform


ANY Complaints about paying less tax?

 

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 01:29 PM
SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS (guaranteed by our Constitution)

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights

 

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IMMIGRATION REFORM

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/second-amendment-rights

Premises:

1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border.

2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced.

3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans.


Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States

America will only be great as long as America remains a nation of laws that lives according to the Constitution. No one is above the law. The following steps will return to the American people the safety of their laws, which politicians have stolen from them:

1. Triple the number of ICE officers. As the President of the ICE Officers’ Council explained in Congressional testimony: “Only approximately 5,000 officers and agents within ICE perform the lion’s share of ICE’s immigration mission…Compare that to the Los Angeles Police Department at approximately 10,000 officers. Approximately 5,000 officers in ICE cover 50 states, Puerto Rico and Guam, and are attempting to enforce immigration law against 11 million illegal aliens already in the interior of the United States.

2. Nationwide e-verify. This simple measure will protect jobs for unemployed Americans.

3. Mandatory return of all criminal aliens. The Obama Administration has released 76,000 aliens from its custody with criminal convictions since 2013 alone. All criminal aliens must be returned to their home countries, a process which can be aided by canceling any visas to foreign countries which will not accept their own criminals, and making it a separate and additional crime to commit an offense while here illegally.

4. Detention—not catch-and-release. Illegal aliens apprehended crossing the border must be detained until they are sent home, no more catch-and-release.

5. Defund sanctuary cities. Cut-off federal grants to any city which refuses to cooperate with federal law enforcement

6. Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa. Millions of people come to the United States on temporary visas but refuse to leave, without consequence. This is a threat to national security. Individuals who refuse to leave at the time their visa expires should be subject to criminal penalties; this will also help give local jurisdictions the power to hold visa overstays until federal authorities arrive. Completion of a visa tracking system – required by law but blocked by lobbyists – will be necessary as well.

7. Cooperate with local gang task forces. ICE officers should accompany local police departments conducting raids of violent street gangs like MS-13 and the 18th street gang, which have terrorized the country. All illegal aliens in gangs should be apprehended and deported.

8. End birthright citizenship. This remains the biggest magnet for illegal immigration. By a 2:1 margin, voters say it’s the wrong policy, including Harry Reid who said “no sane country” would give automatic citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants.


Put American Workers First

Decades of disastrous trade deals and immigration policies have destroyed our middle class. Today, nearly 40% of black teenagers are unemployed. Nearly 30% of Hispanic teenagers are unemployed. For black Americans without high school diplomas, the bottom has fallen out: more than 70% were employed in 1960, compared to less than 40% in 2000. Across the economy, the percentage of adults in the labor force has collapsed to a level not experienced in generations

The influx of foreign workers holds down salaries, keeps unemployment high, and makes it difficult for poor and working class Americans – including immigrants themselves and their children – to earn a middle class wage. Nearly half of all immigrants and their US-born children currently live in or near poverty, including more than 60 percent of Hispanic immigrants. Every year, we voluntarily admit another 2 million new immigrants, guest workers, refugees, and dependents, growing our existing all-time historic record population of 42 million immigrants. We need to control the admission of new low-earning workers in order to: help wages grow, get teenagers back to work, aid minorities’ rise into the middle class, help schools and communities falling behind, and to ensure our immigrant members of the national family become part of the American dream.

Additionally, we need to stop giving legal immigrant visas to people bent on causing us harm. From the 9/11 hijackers, to the Boston Bombers, and many others, our immigration system is being used to attack us. The President of the immigration caseworkers union declared in a statement on ISIS: “We've become the visa clearinghouse for the world.”

Here are some additional specific policy proposals for long-term reform:

Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs. We graduate two times more Americans with STEM degrees each year than find STEM jobs, yet as much as two-thirds of entry-level hiring for IT jobs is accomplished through the H-1B program. More than half of H-1B visas are issued for the program's lowest allowable wage level, and more than eighty percent for its bottom two. Raising the prevailing wage paid to H-1Bs will force companies to give these coveted entry-level jobs to the existing domestic pool of unemployed native and immigrant workers in the U.S., instead of flying in cheaper workers from overseas


Requirement to hire American workers first. Too many visas, like the H-1B, have no such requirement. In the year 2015, with 92 million Americans outside the workforce and incomes collapsing, we need companies to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed. Petitions for workers should be mailed to the unemployment office, not USCIS.

End welfare abuse. Applicants for entry to the United States should be required to certify that they can pay for their own housing, healthcare and other needs before coming to the U.S.

Jobs program for inner city youth. The J-1 visa jobs program for foreign youth will be terminated and replaced with a resume bank for inner city youth provided to all corporate subscribers to the J-1 visa program.

Refugee program for American children. Increase standards for the admission of refugees and asylum-seekers to crack down on abuses. Use the monies saved on expensive refugee programs to help place American children without parents in safer homes and communities, and to improve community safety in high crime neighborhoods in the United States.

Immigration moderation. Before any new green cards are issued to foreign workers abroad, there will be a pause where employers will have to hire from the domestic pool of unemployed immigrant and native workers. This will help reverse women's plummeting workplace participation rate, grow wages, and allow record immigration levels to subside to more moderate historical averages.

Read the other positions and ideas he has and educate yourself.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 01:45 PM
And Donald Trump is exactly right.

Apparently the liberals who scream and holler against cannot offer an opposing argument when presented with the facts.

If you want to have fun, read the above actual positions and compare them to how the liberal media reports them.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 03:09 PM
There is actually more on the horizon. Black Lives Matter rapper Tef Poe said they would incite riots everywhere if Trump were elected President. He then removed his tweet, but he said it. There will be race riots if he is elected.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-black-lives-matter-activist-we-will-incite- riots-everywhere-if-trump-wins.html

UPDATE: Poe deleted his tweet and then claimed that he never made the comments. The tweet is archived here and a screenshot of it appears in the link.


Poe is by no means a nobody, he has appeared in innumerable articles charting the rise of ‘Black Lives Matter’ and was credited with coining the phrase, “This ain’t your grandparents’ civil rights movement.”

The rapper was one of the co-founders of Hands Up United, a “social justice” organization that emerged after the death of Michael Brown that was responsible for coordinating large BLM protests in the St. Louis area.

St. Louis was hit by riots in August last year as police were forced to use tear gas to disperse demonstrators who threw bricks and bottles at officers. The “hands up, don’t shoot!” mantra was later discredited by DNA and autopsy evidence that confirmed Michael Brown did not have his hands up when he was shot by Officer Darren Wilson.

Poe’s threat to incite riots comes on the same day as it emerged that some of the radical groups involved in shutting down Donald Trump’s rally in Chicago last week are planning a “mass civil disobedience movement” beginning next month. Donald Trump himself also warned that any attempt by the GOP establishment to steal the nomination from him may result in civil unrest.

“I think you would have riots. I think you would have riots,” Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo this morning. “I think you would see problems like you’ve never seen before. I think bad things would happen. I really do.” Trump was quickly blasted by many sectors of the media for invoking the prospect of riots, a sentiment that wasn’t seen immediately after the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, when publications like Time Magazine argued that rioting was a justifiable form of protest."


REMARKS: So riots like in Ferguson and other places on a national scale. So we are not just in a Holy War with Isis, are we in a civil war with Blacks once again, we are not allowed to vote for who we want or else we are threatened with riots? How dare any group of people tell people they are not allowed to vote for someone unless 'they' agree with it. But then again, this group, which is a hate group, walked down the streets in New York City on Dec. 14 a few years back and chanted "what do we want? Dead cops, when do we want it? Now". Yet they are allowed to do this, as a hate group.




[Edited on 3/19/2016 by gina]

 

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 03:21 PM
I'm not going to get into the slavery debate, just put up the info. for you to be aware of it, there IS something else. "The race to be the Secretary General of the United Nations is clandestinely underway. The second term of Current Secretary General former South Korean foreign minister Ban Ki-moon comes to an end on December 31, 2016".

There are those from the New World Order who want the United Nations to be the One World Government, and they want to move that government to Jerusalem, which would be when they will bring in someone they tout as a great peacemaker. That person will either be, or lead the way for the anti-Christ to assume power. That's what would need to happen for the prophecy detailed in Revelations to come to pass. All the stuff going on politically now is how they will do it, create riots in the streets, institute martial law, cause or be involved in events/attacked that are generated from the Middle East, then they can sell the idea to everyone who is tired of war. One World Government, one world order, one world army, one world leader. That's the ultimate future. That cannot happen if we have a functioning government in place, if we have sovereignty as a nation. We take out leaders of other nations over there (Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, little by little they have ceded their sovereignty to allied partners....) it's being done over there, eventually it will be done here too, unless someone tries to stop it, the only one who will try is Donald J. Trump who sill believes in America and it's founding forefathers vision.


http://tv.infowars.com/

 

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 05:08 PM
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There is actually more on the horizon. Black Lives Matter rapper Tef Poe said they would incite riots everywhere if Trump were elected President. He then removed his tweet, but he said it. There will be race riots if he is elected.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-black-lives-matter-activist-we-will-incite- riots-everywhere-if-trump-wins.html

UPDATE: Poe deleted his tweet and then claimed that he never made the comments. The tweet is archived here and a screenshot of it appears in the link.


Poe is by no means a nobody, he has appeared in innumerable articles charting the rise of ‘Black Lives Matter’ and was credited with coining the phrase, “This ain’t your grandparents’ civil rights movement.”

The rapper was one of the co-founders of Hands Up United, a “social justice” organization that emerged after the death of Michael Brown that was responsible for coordinating large BLM protests in the St. Louis area.

St. Louis was hit by riots in August last year as police were forced to use tear gas to disperse demonstrators who threw bricks and bottles at officers. The “hands up, don’t shoot!” mantra was later discredited by DNA and autopsy evidence that confirmed Michael Brown did not have his hands up when he was shot by Officer Darren Wilson.

Poe’s threat to incite riots comes on the same day as it emerged that some of the radical groups involved in shutting down Donald Trump’s rally in Chicago last week are planning a “mass civil disobedience movement” beginning next month. Donald Trump himself also warned that any attempt by the GOP establishment to steal the nomination from him may result in civil unrest.

“I think you would have riots. I think you would have riots,” Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo this morning. “I think you would see problems like you’ve never seen before. I think bad things would happen. I really do.” Trump was quickly blasted by many sectors of the media for invoking the prospect of riots, a sentiment that wasn’t seen immediately after the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, when publications like Time Magazine argued that rioting was a justifiable form of protest."


REMARKS: So riots like in Ferguson and other places on a national scale. So we are not just in a Holy War with Isis, are we in a civil war with Blacks once again, we are not allowed to vote for who we want or else we are threatened with riots? How dare any group of people tell people they are not allowed to vote for someone unless 'they' agree with it. But then again, this group, which is a hate group, walked down the streets in New York City on Dec. 14 a few years back and chanted "what do we want? Dead cops, when do we want it? Now". Yet they are allowed to do this, as a hate group.

[Edited on 3/19/2016 by gina]

________________________________________________________________________

The latest from Black Lives Matter, supported by George Soros, is that Donald Trump's campaign message of "Make America Great Again" is just whitey's code for "Make America White Again".

Some of BLM's "leadership" is also claiming Donald Trump actually said "Make America White Again" which he never said.

But never really saying it doesn't fit into the militant's narrative so they have now stooped to making it up as needed.

 

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 07:57 PM
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There is actually more on the horizon. Black Lives Matter rapper Tef Poe said they would incite riots everywhere if Trump were elected President. He then removed his tweet, but he said it. There will be race riots if he is elected.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-black-lives-matter-activist-we-will-incite- riots-everywhere-if-trump-wins.html

UPDATE: Poe deleted his tweet and then claimed that he never made the comments. The tweet is archived here and a screenshot of it appears in the link.


Poe is by no means a nobody, he has appeared in innumerable articles charting the rise of ‘Black Lives Matter’ and was credited with coining the phrase, “This ain’t your grandparents’ civil rights movement.”

The rapper was one of the co-founders of Hands Up United, a “social justice” organization that emerged after the death of Michael Brown that was responsible for coordinating large BLM protests in the St. Louis area.

St. Louis was hit by riots in August last year as police were forced to use tear gas to disperse demonstrators who threw bricks and bottles at officers. The “hands up, don’t shoot!” mantra was later discredited by DNA and autopsy evidence that confirmed Michael Brown did not have his hands up when he was shot by Officer Darren Wilson.

Poe’s threat to incite riots comes on the same day as it emerged that some of the radical groups involved in shutting down Donald Trump’s rally in Chicago last week are planning a “mass civil disobedience movement” beginning next month. Donald Trump himself also warned that any attempt by the GOP establishment to steal the nomination from him may result in civil unrest.

“I think you would have riots. I think you would have riots,” Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo this morning. “I think you would see problems like you’ve never seen before. I think bad things would happen. I really do.” Trump was quickly blasted by many sectors of the media for invoking the prospect of riots, a sentiment that wasn’t seen immediately after the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, when publications like Time Magazine argued that rioting was a justifiable form of protest."


REMARKS: So riots like in Ferguson and other places on a national scale. So we are not just in a Holy War with Isis, are we in a civil war with Blacks once again, we are not allowed to vote for who we want or else we are threatened with riots? How dare any group of people tell people they are not allowed to vote for someone unless 'they' agree with it. But then again, this group, which is a hate group, walked down the streets in New York City on Dec. 14 a few years back and chanted "what do we want? Dead cops, when do we want it? Now". Yet they are allowed to do this, as a hate group.

[Edited on 3/19/2016 by gina]

________________________________________________________________________

The latest from Black Lives Matter, supported by George Soros, is that Donald Trump's campaign message of "Make America Great Again" is just whitey's code for "Make America White Again".

Some of BLM's "leadership" is also claiming Donald Trump actually said "Make America White Again" which he never said.

But never really saying it doesn't fit into the militant's narrative so they have now stooped to making it up as needed.


If there were ever a "pot calling the kettle black" moment around here, this is it.

 

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There is actually more on the horizon. Black Lives Matter rapper Tef Poe said they would incite riots everywhere if Trump were elected President. He then removed his tweet, but he said it. There will be race riots if he is elected.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-black-lives-matter-activist-we-will-incite- riots-everywhere-if-trump-wins.html

UPDATE: Poe deleted his tweet and then claimed that he never made the comments. The tweet is archived here and a screenshot of it appears in the link.


Poe is by no means a nobody, he has appeared in innumerable articles charting the rise of ‘Black Lives Matter’ and was credited with coining the phrase, “This ain’t your grandparents’ civil rights movement.”

The rapper was one of the co-founders of Hands Up United, a “social justice” organization that emerged after the death of Michael Brown that was responsible for coordinating large BLM protests in the St. Louis area.

St. Louis was hit by riots in August last year as police were forced to use tear gas to disperse demonstrators who threw bricks and bottles at officers. The “hands up, don’t shoot!” mantra was later discredited by DNA and autopsy evidence that confirmed Michael Brown did not have his hands up when he was shot by Officer Darren Wilson.

Poe’s threat to incite riots comes on the same day as it emerged that some of the radical groups involved in shutting down Donald Trump’s rally in Chicago last week are planning a “mass civil disobedience movement” beginning next month. Donald Trump himself also warned that any attempt by the GOP establishment to steal the nomination from him may result in civil unrest.

“I think you would have riots. I think you would have riots,” Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo this morning. “I think you would see problems like you’ve never seen before. I think bad things would happen. I really do.” Trump was quickly blasted by many sectors of the media for invoking the prospect of riots, a sentiment that wasn’t seen immediately after the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, when publications like Time Magazine argued that rioting was a justifiable form of protest."


REMARKS: So riots like in Ferguson and other places on a national scale. So we are not just in a Holy War with Isis, are we in a civil war with Blacks once again, we are not allowed to vote for who we want or else we are threatened with riots? How dare any group of people tell people they are not allowed to vote for someone unless 'they' agree with it. But then again, this group, which is a hate group, walked down the streets in New York City on Dec. 14 a few years back and chanted "what do we want? Dead cops, when do we want it? Now". Yet they are allowed to do this, as a hate group.

[Edited on 3/19/2016 by gina]

________________________________________________________________________

The latest from Black Lives Matter, supported by George Soros, is that Donald Trump's campaign message of "Make America Great Again" is just whitey's code for "Make America White Again".

Some of BLM's "leadership" is also claiming Donald Trump actually said "Make America White Again" which he never said.

But never really saying it doesn't fit into the militant's narrative so they have now stooped to making it up as needed.


If there were ever a "pot calling the kettle black" moment around here, this is it.

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  posted on 3/19/2016 at 09:09 PM
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There is actually more on the horizon. Black Lives Matter rapper Tef Poe said they would incite riots everywhere if Trump were elected President. He then removed his tweet, but he said it. There will be race riots if he is elected.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-black-lives-matter-activist-we-will-incite- riots-everywhere-if-trump-wins.html

UPDATE: Poe deleted his tweet and then claimed that he never made the comments. The tweet is archived here and a screenshot of it appears in the link.


Poe is by no means a nobody, he has appeared in innumerable articles charting the rise of ‘Black Lives Matter’ and was credited with coining the phrase, “This ain’t your grandparents’ civil rights movement.”

The rapper was one of the co-founders of Hands Up United, a “social justice” organization that emerged after the death of Michael Brown that was responsible for coordinating large BLM protests in the St. Louis area.

St. Louis was hit by riots in August last year as police were forced to use tear gas to disperse demonstrators who threw bricks and bottles at officers. The “hands up, don’t shoot!” mantra was later discredited by DNA and autopsy evidence that confirmed Michael Brown did not have his hands up when he was shot by Officer Darren Wilson.

Poe’s threat to incite riots comes on the same day as it emerged that some of the radical groups involved in shutting down Donald Trump’s rally in Chicago last week are planning a “mass civil disobedience movement” beginning next month. Donald Trump himself also warned that any attempt by the GOP establishment to steal the nomination from him may result in civil unrest.

“I think you would have riots. I think you would have riots,” Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo this morning. “I think you would see problems like you’ve never seen before. I think bad things would happen. I really do.” Trump was quickly blasted by many sectors of the media for invoking the prospect of riots, a sentiment that wasn’t seen immediately after the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, when publications like Time Magazine argued that rioting was a justifiable form of protest."


REMARKS: So riots like in Ferguson and other places on a national scale. So we are not just in a Holy War with Isis, are we in a civil war with Blacks once again, we are not allowed to vote for who we want or else we are threatened with riots? How dare any group of people tell people they are not allowed to vote for someone unless 'they' agree with it. But then again, this group, which is a hate group, walked down the streets in New York City on Dec. 14 a few years back and chanted "what do we want? Dead cops, when do we want it? Now". Yet they are allowed to do this, as a hate group.

[Edited on 3/19/2016 by gina]

________________________________________________________________________

The latest from Black Lives Matter, supported by George Soros, is that Donald Trump's campaign message of "Make America Great Again" is just whitey's code for "Make America White Again".

Some of BLM's "leadership" is also claiming Donald Trump actually said "Make America White Again" which he never said.

But never really saying it doesn't fit into the militant's narrative so they have now stooped to making it up as needed.


If there were ever a "pot calling the kettle black" moment around here, this is it.

________________________________________________________________________

The facts destroy you rhetoric.
Again.



You wouldn't know a fact if your life depended on it.

 

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  posted on 3/20/2016 at 09:26 AM
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There is so much being said about him, but what matters is his positions, his plans and what he WILL do when elected. If you don't agree with his ideas, okay, but at least give them some consideration.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions


We'll start with Health Care

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

1. He wants to repeal Obamacare which forces people to buy (co-pay) into coverage or pay tax penalties. The Obamacare coverage provides 60%, 70% and 80% of the Usual Customary Charges the insurance companies think is far. You are responsible for the other 40, 30, or 20 per cent of the fees. With the insurance co pay fees each month, plus that, most people in need of insurance cannot afford it.

2. Businesses can deduct the cost of the health care coverage from their taxes, Trump's initiative will allow you, the private person to deduct the cost of your coverage off YOUR taxes. IF you choose to have coverage, you will NOT BE FORCED to have coverage that you cannot afford to buy.

3. Recognizing people cannot afford Obamacare or other insurance, he wants to make changes that put the burden of competing for you to want to buy coverage on the insurance companies, driving their fees to you down. Make it affordable to you, AND give you a choice.

4. Health Savings Accounts, currently you can have them but you have to use the money in it within a year, under Trump's initiatives the money put in there can be deducted off your taxes, and can build up and accumulate over more than just one year.

5. Block Grant Medicaid to the States, instead of the federal govt. running it, let the states. Give the states the money, and make them responsible for doling it out and creating programs that work for them. Bernie Sanders created affordable health care in Vermont, the rest of the country could follow his example, or create their own.

6. Cost effective drugs, if Canada's quality is just as good, why can't we be allowed to buy it from them?

Now what's wrong with his health care reform ideas?




Might be nice if we could actually stay on topic and exchange some ideas for a while.

I buy private health insurance and have for about 15 years now. Fortunately I'm young and healthy (I guess) and that has resulted in lower costs.

Somehow my plan has always pretty much remained the same after ACA was passed. I currently pay $120.23, in 2013 it was $78.26, 2011 $59.90. This is a $5000 deductible plan, with a high annual and lifetime cap, not a "junk" plan like the President used to talk about some people having. I have used it very rarely, but when I do insurance always covers some part of the bill and I pay some balance due.

Back in 2013 I wanted to see what an ACA plan would cost me. An HSA Bronze 6000 would've been $196.45, the cheapest, from there other classic, silver, gold, platinum plans with deductibles ranging from 500-5000 and premiums up to $371.69.

So I have it pretty good. Each year I get a renewal letter from my health care provider saying that my plan may not meet some ACA provisions like maternity care, mental therapy, alcohol and drug abuse treatment - none of which I need. I'm quite happy to not pay for things I don't need and not double, triple, or quadruple my monthly premium with Obamacare. I don't know how my plan remains in effect even though it doesn't meet ACA standards, but I am happy with it.

Recently I told my friend in North Carolina what I pay and he was going into a job with no health insurance. So he called two agents and they quoted him almost $300 a month. He is same age as me (early 40s) and healthy with no prescription drug use or ongoing issues. I don't know if they were looking at open enrollment ACA plan or private market plan. He tells me there were only two companies with plans available to him. In Ohio I know we have 3-4 viable companies offering good plans.

So taking Obamacare out of the discussion a little...

I think having insurance companies compete nationally would help to a point. Trump makes it sound like it is the be-all-end-all, but it would help. Instead of 2 or 3-4 options, individuals would have many more with the assumption if the companies have to compete for that business that lower premiums would be the result. I say to a point, because even though there is competition the prices can magically be similar across the board. I like to use the example of Fed Ex and UPS, if you go to ship an 2-day letter with UPS, quote Fed Ex on it and surprisingly they are about the same price. It becomes one of those things were they both realize what people are willing and able to pay for a given service so there is no reason to get into a price war and leave money on the table. Having said that, to an extent, competition from more insurers within each state would help.

About deducting premiums payments off your taxes, any individual can do that now if they are itemizing. Each year I give my out-of-pocket medical costs and insurance premiums paid to my accountant and he says they can deduct them everything is over the standard deduction, which I don't think we ever have been. So if Trump is saying you can take the standard deduction and also deduct medical on top of that then it could have some impact, although I wouldn't think it to be a key point of a plan.

I do not have a health savings account, but think they could play a role. Republicans love this idea, however, it only benefits people with money "left over" to contribute to the HSA. I mean if somebody is living paycheck to paycheck now, they aren't going to be able to fund an HSA. So there is some value in the general concept, to think that it will be some saving grace is false.

I do like the idea of the states setting up their own plans, although I'm not too familiar with how that would work. This is just medicare right? Naturally I heard alot about how Massachusetts did something different under Romney that he took heat for in the election 4 years ago. I would need somebody to explain it to me how it would help the bulk of the people on a large scale and I imagine that some states might not set up a very good system, either through incompetency or lack of funds and the people within that state may find themselves in a bad situation.

Finally, on the prescription drugs...it isn't just something where you import cheaper drugs from say Canada that are made somewhere else...in alot of cases the drugs that are cheaper in Canada are actually US drug companies and drugs that are made in the US! I've seen plenty of US branded drugs that are made abroad in our market now anyway, singapore, I mean look at where the stuff comes from sometimes, all over. Drugs are cheaper in other countries either because the governments of those countries demand it or in the case of poorer countries, if the prices weren't cheap nobody would buy them there. So some business is better than no business in that case. The drugs are more in the US simply because they can be. With our government and insurance companies' deep pockets the drug companies can essentially charge whatever they want, and these higher prices help offset potential losses they have in other countries. So saying we will allow safe foreign drugs into the US to lower costs isn't really going to help. Addressing this issue in reality is much tougher than what you can get in a debate soundbite.

Really, I am coming around more and more to the benefits of a single payer health care system.

First of all, we need to establish something. Is having the government in charge of your healthcare any different really than an insurance company? Insurance companies do not come riding in a white horse and save everyone's day, they suck. I don't know who sucks more really, government or insurance companies but they both suck. Insurance companies are more interested in their bottom line than they are if any of us are healthy or live. I would expect the government to be equally fixated on numbers, but hopefully they would be fixated on those costs from a standpoint of keeping them down - I can't hold my breath because the government never keeps costs down. So at the end of the day neither one is great for different reasons.

Here is the big thing tough, take the burden of providing health insurance off of our employers. What a HUGE boost to employment and growth that could be. How many thousands of dollars are baked into each car that a US auto company builds in say Detroit vs what a US autocompany builds in Canada?

The problem would be how to pay for it. I've read Sander's plan and don't think it would be quite as easy to pay for as he thinks. I'd like everyone to have some skin in the game, make everyone pay some sort of deductible or co-pay maybe base it on income, I don't know, but people need to have some financial responsibility for their own health and that of their family. Financial incentives to eat right, excersize, don't engage in reckless behaviors and habits.

I think Trump used to believe in some sort of socialized health care system, atleast he has been accused for as much, but not that is a death nail for a Republican. But make no mistake about it, Democrats are in bed with the insurance companies as well, which is why we got the ACA the way it is instead of something close to single payer. Insurance companies got a mandate to purchase something they sell, imagine that, if you could only have everyone in this country forced to buy a product you sell - and if the individual can't pay for it well then the government will subsidize it. Why, if the Republicans would've passed something that looks like ACA I bet Democrats would be fighting to repeal it! Seriously.

I don't know how strong Trump's health care plan is at the end of the day. It is a complicated issue that I'd rather just see the who system scrapped and redone from ground up rather than just adding new layers and new legislation on top of a pretty broken system.

 

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The tax plan sounds a little vague in parts. I see he lowers the rate on dividends and cap gains, the rates went up under Obama and there was a medicare tax on dividends and cap gains that came with it unsure if Trump would change that.

Anyone owning mutual funds outside of an IRA or some kind of retirement account are effected by capital gain taxes. You might buy and hold a fund for ever and never sell it, but because fund managers are selling and buying within the fund they might trigger capital gain taxes which you must then pay (even if you reinvest your gains and do not take them in cash). So there is some exposure for everyone. However, I can't remember what % of Americans do exclusively hold such investments in a tax preferred retirement account, so potentially the exposure across the board is less and honestly, most typically capital gain taxes impact upper income people (Trump does have it tiered, 15% at one income level and 20% at the higher level, which I think it is 20% for everyone now).

The philosophy here is that keeping them low incentivizes investment. Democrats want dividends and capital gains taxed at the same level as ordinary income. I think most people make investment decisions for growth reasons, but tax implications are very close in the equation for people deciding how and where to invest their money. I'd like someone here to explain their position if they think that dividends and capital gains should be taxed at ordinary income levels (this is the whole Warren Buffet pays less tax than his secretary situation).

25% seems pretty aggressive for the top marginal rate. Isn't it up in the 30% range now?

I am all for people keeping more of the money they earn. The best place for your money is in your pocket - this I believe.

I do worry though that too many Americans will become disconnected from paying any income tax - I mean how far can we go with the top 10% paying for all the services and protections the other 90% enjoy but are not contributing to? Trump "removes 75 million or 50% of households from paying income tax". I like the general idea, but if you lower the top rates and eliminate the bottom rates you are going to need alot of growth to offset it all. And tax cuts do historically grow the economy. Through the years I have always posted data that shows IRS revenue goes UP, not down, after tax cuts are implemented. Perhaps Trump's economic growth position gets into this. Because you have to grow the economy to make it all work. All of Sander's spending plans assume some certain continued rate of economic growth - Sanders does it with higher taxes however. There are two ways to skin the cat.

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The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.


I wanted to talk about this one here because it is often thrown around by both sides.

What I am not sure Democrats realize often enough is that successful small businesses can be devastated by the estate tax. While the media and proponents of the estate tax will point to families like the Steinbrenners, what isn't talked about enough are families that have to face selling their business in order to pay the estate tax when the founder dies (say like a father who owns a company). These days many families are proactive with estate planning to avoid the estate tax. But I want to be clear, this isn't just an issue of making filthy rich people pay 50% of their wealth to the federal government so it doesn't pass down to their heirs. It reaches well beyond that to people who do not consider themselves rich, have all their worth wrapped up in nonliquid assets of their companies.

To be fair we could say, eliminate the estate tax for any individuals with a net worth of less than I don't know 5 million. And then anyone with a worth over that level would be subject to the tax. We'd have to look at the numbers.

Having said all of that, I would rather the estate tax be repealed all together rather than leaving it in place for some people to be swept away having to sell their dream just to pay the IRS when their loved one dies

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The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.


I wanted to talk about this one here because it is often thrown around by both sides.

What I am not sure Democrats realize often enough is that successful small businesses can be devastated by the estate tax. While the media and proponents of the estate tax will point to families like the Steinbrenners, what isn't talked about enough are families that have to face selling their business in order to pay the estate tax when the founder dies (say like a father who owns a company). These days many families are proactive with estate planning to avoid the estate tax. But I want to be clear, this isn't just an issue of making filthy rich people pay 50% of their wealth to the federal government so it doesn't pass down to their heirs. It reaches well beyond that to people who do not consider themselves rich, have all their worth wrapped up in nonliquid assets of their companies.

To be fair we could say, eliminate the estate tax for any individuals with a net worth of less than I don't know 5 million. And then anyone with a worth over that level would be subject to the tax. We'd have to look at the numbers.

Having said all of that, I would rather the estate tax be repealed all together rather than leaving it in place for some people to be swept away having to sell their dream just to pay the IRS when their loved one dies


For any person, especially a small business owner, that does proper estate planning, the estate tax is not an issue. I know many people who have have had to deal with this, some in my own family, and if its done right the estate tax doesn't have a significant impact.

 

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For any person, especially a small business owner, that does proper estate planning, the estate tax is not an issue. I know many people who have have had to deal with this, some in my own family, and if its done right the estate tax doesn't have a significant impact.


This is true, over the last 10-20 years, because of estate planning and the increase in the exemption. I read a little bit on it and the exemption is a little over 5 million which is fine. I see the federal tax is 35-40% for amounts over 5 million exemption. I do not want to protect billionaires, I am ok with some estate tax remaining in place, I want to make sure that nobody is caught up in it who are rich only in illiquid assets. If we are talking enormous sums of cash or stock/mutual fund/bond investments then that is different.

Ted Cruz's plan is to also end the tax. I don;t know Kasich's position on the federal tax, but he ended Ohio's estate tax so one could assume what he thinks on the federal tax.

Cruz has a 10% flat tax, don't see specifically mentioning dividends and capital gains, but safe to assume those would also be taxed at 10%.

By comparison Bernie Sanders touts a progressive 45-50-55% estate tax, although is exemption is lower to about 3.5 million so more people could be caught in it (but he says that farms and land conservation are protected). Bernie wants dividends and cap gains to be taxed at ordinary income levels with a marginal rate as high as 39.6& (but he's made comments implying he may like up to 50% tax on cap gains for those over a certain income level).

So then, comparing the Trump-Cruz-Sanders tax plans...Trump is in the middle between the ultra conservative Cruz and ultra liberal Sanders.

 

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I would think if you are a Steinbrenner or someone of their wealth level, you would have proper estate planning.
 

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Did you know (or remember) that Steinbrenner died in that one year where there was no estate tax?

Even in a normal year, they can't protect all of it, so there is always some exposure even with the best planning. Says online that had George died the following year, they may have paid $600 million or something.

 

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Aren't all insurance companies private? I don't think there is any government owned insurance company other than medicare.

I seriously doubt there is anyone on this website who will ever have to pay the Estate tax. If so, congratulations! It begins at 5.45 million. You pay no estate tax on any money before the 5.45 million. 99.8 percent of all estates owe no estate tax.

I don't know why people get their panties in a wad over something that effects so few people.

 

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Aren't all insurance companies private? I don't think there is any government owned insurance company other than medicare.

I seriously doubt there is anyone on this website who will ever have to pay the Estate tax. If so, congratulations! It begins at 5.45 million. You pay no estate tax on any money before the 5.45 million. 99.8 percent of all estates owe no estate tax.

I don't know why people get their panties in a wad over something that effects so few people.
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I don't know why people get their panties in a wad over something that effects so few people.

Maybe it's because some people don't judge right and wrong based upon how many people are impacted. Principled people have the nerve to think that government confiscation of private assets is wrong even if they are not personally affected. Others apparently think it is only wrong if they are affected.

 

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I don't know why people get their panties in a wad over something that effects so few people.

Maybe it's because some people don't judge right and wrong based upon how many people are impacted. Principled people have the nerve to think that government confiscation of private assets is wrong even if they are not personally affected. Others apparently think it is only wrong if they are affected.
If you have a CPA/financial planner who is worth a damn, most people would not have to worry.

 

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Did you know (or remember) that Steinbrenner died in that one year where there was no estate tax?



Yes, but that schedule was known 5 years in advance. Tax lawyers joked that it was the year W projected GHW to die.

Tax and financial planning are part of our responsibilities as adults to protect our families and businesses. And for that small percentage for which estate taxes can be incurred, I have no problem with them paying tax if they didn't plan. This is not a problem that affects Trump's base.

 

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I don't know why people get their panties in a wad over something that effects so few people.

Maybe it's because some people don't judge right and wrong based upon how many people are impacted. Principled people have the nerve to think that government confiscation of private assets is wrong even if they are not personally affected. Others apparently think it is only wrong if they are affected.
If you have a CPA/financial planner who is worth a damn, most people would not have to worry.

Even without a CPA most people don't need to worry. That's not my point. My point is that saying something is OK because it only affects a few people is a very weak argument. The rightness of an estate tax doesn't change just because it affects more or less people. Saying it is acceptable because it affects only a few implies that it is unacceptable.

 

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I don't know why people get their panties in a wad over something that effects so few people.

Maybe it's because some people don't judge right and wrong based upon how many people are impacted. Principled people have the nerve to think that government confiscation of private assets is wrong even if they are not personally affected. Others apparently think it is only wrong if they are affected.
If you have a CPA/financial planner who is worth a damn, most people would not have to worry.

Even without a CPA most people don't need to worry. That's not my point. My point is that saying something is OK because it only affects a few people is a very weak argument. The rightness of an estate tax doesn't change just because it affects more or less people. Saying it is acceptable because it affects only a few implies that it is unacceptable.
If you don't have solid planning, then it is YOUR PROBLEM. pay up sucker.

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The dollars have already been taxed at some point prior to heir transfer, so it is double taxation. But again, really, I am not defending billionaires keeping more of their money, concentrating wealth among a limited number of families - personally I don't care if they do, but what I really want to protect against is people/businesses filing as an S Corp or anyone who's business isn't properly protected against having to face an unpayable IRS bill without having to liquidate assets.

We all know that planning is the key, but if your business has been up and running for 10-15 years and then now you want to start estate planning for a nontaxable family transfer at death of the founder it is difficult to fully escape the grasp of the IRS.

Yeah, I remember the jokes about when Steinbrenner died - not that it is funny, just with the tax laws being the way they were. I remember alot of accountants saying 'hey if you were ever going to die with alot of assets, now is the time to do it!'.

Back to the Trump thread, you are right, it is not an issue with most of his supporters. I imagine the estate tax discontinuation lobby resides within the establishment Republican wing, but they will flee to whichever Republican becomes the nominee. And each Republican is against the estate tax. I need to look up Hillary's position. I suspect I already know it. Right wants to eliminate it, Left wants to expand it...maybe we should compromise and leave it status quo!

 
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