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  posted on 4/27/2015 at 05:32 PM
That's right next weekend is the Kentucky Derby. We know in the south they always do events BIG. This is no exception.

http://www.laurasleanbeef.com/blog/lauras-lean-beef-kentucky-derby-flank-st eak/
Food ideas from Laura.

http://derbyexperiences.com/concierge-services/hospitality-venues/sunny-s-h alo-lounge-in-the-grandstand-pavilion

https://www.betamerica.com/extra/how-to-bet-on-the-kentucky-derby/how-not-t o-bet-the-kentucky-derby/

https://www.betamerica.com/
http://www.horsebettingdirect.com/kentucky-derby-preview-2015/


The horses?

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/horses

http://www.kentuckyderby.com/workouts



Some things to consider, it isn't just the horse, the trainer and the jockey are the other parts of the equation and this year there are some distinguished trainers and jockeys.

Dortmund - publicized, trained by Bob Baffert who won 3 Derby’s, had ties in the Preakness 5X, 9 Triple Crown winners, 10 Breeders Cup wins. The training matters.

Carpe Diem – Trained by Todd Pletcher, John Velasquez jockey. The jockey has won 2 Belmont Stakes, 10 Breeders cups and the horse has great form in his workouts.

American Pharoah –Also trained by Bob Baffert, jockey Victor Espinoza had two wins in the first two legs of the Triple Crown in 2002. Riding since 1993, won the Breeders Cup in 2000.

Materiality – Trained by Todd Pletcher. The jockey Javier Castellano of Venezuela won the Breeders Cup in 2004 and Preakness in 2006.

Far Right - The jockey Mike Smith is the story here. Been riding since age 11. Has won the Preakness, Belmont Stakes and 17 Breeders Cups and yes a Kentucky Derby too. Has won many award for is horsemanship and was even inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2003.

It’s a Knockout – Trained by Todd Pletcher.

Stanford – trained by Todd Pletcher.

Firing Line – The trainer, Simon Callaghan actually trained under Todd Pletcher, and his father Neville Callaghan. They hail from Britain. Jockey Gary Stevens won 8 Triple Crowns, 3 Derby’s. Grew p in a horse family. Starred in the film about Sea Biscuit.

Mr. Z - trained by D. Wayne Lucas, a legend among trainers. Hs won 4 Derby’s, 6 Triple Crowns, 20 Breeders Cups. Over his career has won $200 million dollars.


Who do I like? I will watch more workouts, see how the horses look (their form, their movement) and also look at their faces, those who keep their heads down and look sad, they don't want to be there. One favorite horse, who seemed animated and charming from videos I saw has something wrong with his back right leg, when he gallops, every so often he tries to catch himself and his strides are not in synchronicity. He also has allergies bothering him, he sneezed during one workout film, and he is mouth breathing, his mouth is open wide meaning he's not getting enough air through his nose. And yesterday his jockey used the crop on him during a practice run. Anyone who beats their horse should be put in the stall and have the crop used on him.

What if we had a race where the horses were not jacked up on Lasix, (and reportedly only Mubtaahij will NOT be using it for the race) and were allowed to just be themselves, horses who like to run, gallop and express themselves? They like to compete and they like to win. Restore humanity to the game and let horsemanship and the BEST horse win.

I remember what they did to Big Brown at Belmont, he should NOT have been racing, but all the bets were on him, and they put money ahead of the horses health. That is so wrong. They have corrupted and perverted the innocence of these horses, making races a sleazy scourge of greed. Shame on all of them who cannot win unless they beat their horse to make him run.






[Edited on 4/27/2015 by gina]

 

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  posted on 4/28/2015 at 08:54 AM
thoroughbreds are treated like the pro athletes that they are.

Lasix is to prevent or control bleeding in the lungs.

these animals are big investments, mostly, and are treated accordingly.

I like Smith on "Far Right".

 

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  posted on 4/28/2015 at 09:27 AM
I'm not the biggest Bob Baffert fan, but I'm liking Dortmund as of now.

 

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  posted on 4/28/2015 at 09:39 AM
As to another fine Derby Day tradition, after years of searching, bartending and sampling, I finally found the perfect Mint Julep recipe last year, courtesy of Alton Brown:

Ingredients
7 fresh mint leaves, plus 1 sprig for garnish
1 1/2 teaspoons Demerara sugar <----Demerara is also known as Turbinado or Sugar In The Raw
2 1/2 ounces Kentucky bourbon whiskey
Ice cubes
Seltzer water

Instructions
Tear any large mint leaves into pieces, then combine mint leaves and the sugar in an old-fashioned glass or metal julep cup. Muddle these together with a muddler or back of a spoon for approximately 1 minute so the leaves release their essential oils but are still green. Add the bourbon and set aside for 5 minutes.
Meanwhile, wrap the ice cubes up in a clean towel and pound with a rolling pin to crush. Fill the glass with ice and top with a splash of seltzer water. Stir, garnish with remaining mint sprig, and serve immediately.

There's something really magical that happens in the five minutes that the mint, sugar and bourbon steep together. Well, well, well worth the wait!

For years I used to make a simple syrup the night before Derby Day, let it steep overnight in the fridge with mint leaves. This muddle mint/sugar/steep bourbon method has incredible depth that the syrup never came close to.

Also, if your muddler as little teeth on it, don't muddle for a full minute, unless you like the sensation of finely chopped mint leaves in yer cocktail...

 

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  posted on 4/28/2015 at 10:01 AM
American Pharoah was so animated, he's got a lot of personality from videos I saw but in his workouts he did not look happy. Carpe Diem had excellent form, from his workouts, I'm liking him a lot even though the critics don't acknowledge him.

The south always has great food, once those horses start smelling the aromas from the food, they will run, though I don't think anybody will sneak them a mint julep.

 

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As to another fine Derby Day tradition, after years of searching, bartending and sampling, I finally found the perfect Mint Julep recipe last year, courtesy of Alton Brown:

Ingredients
7 fresh mint leaves, plus 1 sprig for garnish
1 1/2 teaspoons Demerara sugar <----Demerara is also known as Turbinado or Sugar In The Raw
2 1/2 ounces Kentucky bourbon whiskey
Ice cubes
Seltzer water

Instructions
Tear any large mint leaves into pieces, then combine mint leaves and the sugar in an old-fashioned glass or metal julep cup. Muddle these together with a muddler or back of a spoon for approximately 1 minute so the leaves release their essential oils but are still green. Add the bourbon and set aside for 5 minutes.
Meanwhile, wrap the ice cubes up in a clean towel and pound with a rolling pin to crush. Fill the glass with ice and top with a splash of seltzer water. Stir, garnish with remaining mint sprig, and serve immediately.

There's something really magical that happens in the five minutes that the mint, sugar and bourbon steep together. Well, well, well worth the wait!

For years I used to make a simple syrup the night before Derby Day, let it steep overnight in the fridge with mint leaves. This muddle mint/sugar/steep bourbon method has incredible depth that the syrup never came close to.

Also, if your muddler as little teeth on it, don't muddle for a full minute, unless you like the sensation of finely chopped mint leaves in yer cocktail...




That's a good looking recipe. We go to the local track every Derby day and they have juleps in commemorative KD glasses. The glasses are cool and we have a nice little collection growing. The juleps suck though...

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They have corrupted and perverted the innocence of these horses, making races a sleazy scourge of greed.
This is in large part nonsense. I've been around horse racing all of my life, and all trainers and owners and jockeys and stable hands, etc. I've known have almost obsessive love for these animals. Are there bad apples? Yes. But please don't mis-characterize an entire group of very passionate and compassionate people for whatever wacky reason you may have.

 

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  posted on 4/28/2015 at 10:33 AM
as my bday is May 1 (thank you, thank you) I will put a 24 hour delay on any and all festivities (wearing a bday hat thingy for the amusement of my grandkids and eating cake and junk ) and settle in to watch the Derby, cigar and glass of wine at the ready.

Brendan, nice to see you. and you're spot on.

 

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  posted on 4/28/2015 at 07:21 PM
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as my bday is May 1 (thank you, thank you) I will put a 24 hour delay on any and all festivities (wearing a bday hat thingy for the amusement of my grandkids and eating cake and junk ) and settle in to watch the Derby, cigar and glass of wine at the ready.

Brendan, nice to see you. and you're spot on.


Same here, Mark. My birthday is on May 1.

 

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as my bday is May 1 (thank you, thank you) I will put a 24 hour delay on any and all festivities (wearing a bday hat thingy for the amusement of my grandkids and eating cake and junk ) and settle in to watch the Derby, cigar and glass of wine at the ready.

Brendan, nice to see you. and you're spot on.


Same here, Mark. My birthday is on May 1.


yo...Happy Birthday!

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 09:23 AM
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as my bday is May 1 (thank you, thank you) I will put a 24 hour delay on any and all festivities (wearing a bday hat thingy for the amusement of my grandkids and eating cake and junk ) and settle in to watch the Derby, cigar and glass of wine at the ready.

Brendan, nice to see you. and you're spot on.


Same here, Mark. My birthday is on May 1.


yo...Happy Birthday!


Back at ya! Have a good one!

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 09:31 AM
They were just talking about the race on the radio. The #2 post has never won, the #18 has only one once. Interesting.
 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 09:51 AM
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They were just talking about the race on the radio. The #2 post has never won, the #18 has only one once. Interesting.
I don't see either of those winning this year either...But Carpe Diem is good horse.

Happy Birthday Gents!

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 10:19 AM
hey thanks to both of ya...

my younger cousin shares this day too with us (she's a DOLL ) and is in agreement with me that May 1 is the best day of the year to have a birthday. Just sayin'...

have another cousin, daughter of my late uncle who was huge into horses, bought and sold to Arabian sheikhs in fact, and I was at his side from when I was a little kid. Grew up in the horse game, I loved it. Anyway, his daughter, my cousin, was and is way into it too. In fact, moved to Kentucky to get closer to it and just texted me to take a better look at Carpe Diem.

love this race.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 10:27 AM
He should be in the mix.

I too love this race...It's tough to handicap though. Huge field. So many things can happen. Generally some opportunity to make some good coin though as there will be plenty of high odds horses going off. Can't wait!

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 11:10 AM
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hey thanks to both of ya...

my younger cousin shares this day too with us (she's a DOLL ) and is in agreement with me that May 1 is the best day of the year to have a birthday. Just sayin'...

have another cousin, daughter of my late uncle who was huge into horses, bought and sold to Arabian sheikhs in fact, and I was at his side from when I was a little kid. Grew up in the horse game, I loved it. Anyway, his daughter, my cousin, was and is way into it too. In fact, moved to Kentucky to get closer to it and just texted me to take a better look at Carpe Diem.

love this race.


Happy Birthday Piacere and you should most definitely Seize The Day!

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 02:42 PM
Ya'll drink up and enjoy one of the country's biggest animal abuses.

Eight Belles died at the 2008 Kentucky Derby.
Derby winner Barbaro died at the 2006 Preakness.

http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/

Yeah, yeah, I know it's tradition.

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 03:23 PM
$1 Ex box: $20

9) Bolo
10) Firing Line
12) International Star
14) Keen Ice
16) War Story

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 03:25 PM
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Ya'll drink up and enjoy one of the country's biggest animal abuses.

Eight Belles died at the 2008 Kentucky Derby.
Derby winner Barbaro died at the 2006 Preakness.

http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/

Yeah, yeah, I know it's tradition.


Well... a couple of minor (read major) differences here... Those are all in the UK, so maybe the issue is there . More importantly, a vast majority of the horses listed there were engaged in steeplechase and hurdle races which are inherently more dangerous than flat races as they have to leap over fences and moats and ditches. Further, the horses listed there are between 4 and 9 years old. 9 years old. The Kentucky Derby horses are 3 year olds. Accidents can certainly happen, but the comparison isn't a good one.

Have a nice weekend.

I'm kinda liking Firing Line more and more...

 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 03:38 PM
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Well... a couple of minor (read major) differences here... Those are all in the UK, so maybe the issue is there . More importantly, a vast majority of the horses listed there were engaged in steeplechase and hurdle races which are inherently more dangerous than flat races as they have to leap over fences and moats and ditches. Further, the horses listed there are between 4 and 9 years old. 9 years old. The Kentucky Derby horses are 3 year olds. Accidents can certainly happen, but the comparison isn't a good one.


Did you miss the part about the Kentucky Derby itself - 2 horses, 2 deaths, 2 years?

There is no public official release of information on US stats, so I went w/UK. And then there's this:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/candacewhiting/2014/07/28/eight-horses-die-in-nin e-days-at-one-race-track-in-san-diego/

Horse racing is an industry. It has a powerful lobby. And isn't KY on the list of the most corrupt states in the US?

I'd rather go to a concert that watch exploitation of animals.


 

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  posted on 5/1/2015 at 03:45 PM
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I'd rather go to a concert that watch exploitation of animals.


Nothing against your personal view, right on. But all this worry over horses, how about the MILLIONS Floyd Mayweather is going to walk with after abusing women, especially after what Ray Rice went through. If only there was this much uproar over the actions and consequences for people.

 

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  posted on 5/2/2015 at 09:59 AM
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hey thanks to both of ya...

my younger cousin shares this day too with us (she's a DOLL ) and is in agreement with me that May 1 is the best day of the year to have a birthday. Just sayin'...

have another cousin, daughter of my late uncle who was huge into horses, bought and sold to Arabian sheikhs in fact, and I was at his side from when I was a little kid. Grew up in the horse game, I loved it. Anyway, his daughter, my cousin, was and is way into it too. In fact, moved to Kentucky to get closer to it and just texted me to take a better look at Carpe Diem.

love this race.


Happy Birthday Piacere and you should most definitely Seize The Day!


thanks gina.

yeah, gettin' stoked. Got to do some yard work (I hate it) then chill and watch the derby.

tough field...I might "seize the day" but there are like 10 horses that could win it.

I like 88 at Talladega...

and Pacquiao...

 

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  posted on 5/2/2015 at 05:29 PM
Not having a clue with the ponies...

1.) American Pharoah
2,) Dortmund
3.) Carpe Diem




 

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  posted on 5/3/2015 at 10:04 AM
last minute, I went with Dortmund.

stayed with Pacquiao. I was hoping he'd win.

on to Talladega.

 

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  posted on 5/3/2015 at 10:16 AM
I'll be takin' a look at Belmont. (2nd leg of the Triple Crown).

 

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  posted on 5/3/2015 at 10:25 AM
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I'll be takin' a look at Belmont. (2nd leg of the Triple Crown).


dear woman, the Preakness is the 2nd leg of the triple crown. Belmont is 3rd.

 
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