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  posted on 4/22/2015 at 10:31 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/losing-my-religion-for-equality-2 0090714-dk0v.html?stb=fb

I salute you, Jimmy.

"The same discriminatory thinking lies behind the continuing gender gap in pay and why there are still so few women in office in the West. The root of this prejudice lies deep in our histories, but its impact is felt every day. It is not women and girls alone who suffer. It damages all of us. The evidence shows that investing in women and girls delivers major benefits for society. An educated woman has healthier children. She is more likely to send them to school. She earns more and invests what she earns in her family.

It is simply self-defeating for any community to discriminate against half its population. We need to challenge these self-serving and outdated attitudes and practices - as we are seeing in Iran where women are at the forefront of the battle for democracy and freedom."

"The truth is that male religious leaders have had - and still have - an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women. They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter. Their continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world. This is in clear violation not just of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but also the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Moses and the prophets, Muhammad, and founders of other great religions - all of whom have called for proper and equitable treatment of all the children of God. It is time we had the courage to challenge these views."








[Edited on 4/23/2015 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 4/23/2015 at 11:24 AM
He ought to sever his ties with Hamas and other Islamist groups he is in love with. What a hypocrite.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2015 at 12:59 PM
Poor Jimmy.
He tries so hard to remain relevant.
In his duel with Obama for the “Worst President of the Modern Era” title, he delves into the War on Women false narrative.

I wonder if he will openly chastise Hillary for taking hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions from countries and governments that oppress women while she runs on a platform of the same phony War on Women.

Does anyone really care what Jimmy Carter has to say?


 

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  posted on 4/23/2015 at 01:17 PM
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He ought to sever his ties with Hamas and other Islamist groups he is in love with. What a hypocrite.
RIIIIGHT! you forget when reagan let the killing of 241 marines by islamic terrorists in beirut go un-answered. Carter has NO ties with ANY islamist terrorist organizations.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2015 at 02:05 PM
I think it weht unanswered in the sense that the behind the lines real orchestrator of the attacks was thought to be Iran, the same nation Pres Obama is trying to waive sanctions and pave a path towards a nuclear bomb for. they covered their tracks well enough to avoid a serious US response.

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I think it weht unanswered in the sense that the behind the lines real orchestrator of the attacks was thought to be Iran, the same nation Pres Obama is trying to waive sanctions and pave a path towards a nuclear bomb for. they covered their tracks well enough to avoid a serious US response.

[Edited on 4/23/2015 by OriginalGoober]
Iran huh, you mean the country reagan sold arms to for hostage release?. got it.

 

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  posted on 4/23/2015 at 02:55 PM
If Regan were still in office he would just trade nuclear missiles to Iran.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2015 at 11:09 AM
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He ought to sever his ties with Hamas and other Islamist groups he is in love with. What a hypocrite.
RIIIIGHT! you forget when reagan let the killing of 241 marines by islamic terrorists in beirut go un-answered. Carter has NO ties with ANY islamist terrorist organizations.


You couldn't be MORE HOPELESSLY WRONG. He has many ties to those groups. Many. And what Reagan has to do with this is beyond me.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2015 at 01:48 PM
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And what Reagan has to do with this is beyond me.


You'll have to forgive the rabble. They often forget that only past Democratic presidents are to be discussed.

 

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I love being part of the rabble.

 

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  posted on 4/24/2015 at 02:15 PM
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He ought to sever his ties with Hamas and other Islamist groups he is in love with. What a hypocrite.
RIIIIGHT! you forget when reagan let the killing of 241 marines by islamic terrorists in beirut go un-answered. Carter has NO ties with ANY islamist terrorist organizations.


You couldn't be MORE HOPELESSLY WRONG. He has many ties to those groups. Many. And what Reagan has to do with this is beyond me.

The word "ties" is so vague and non-specific that it is meaningless in reality, and it is generally used to assert an official connection or other kind of association/support where none exists. Carter has done more to try to bridge the gap between the warring neighbors in the middle east than any other president before or since. Of course he's been labelled as an anti-Semite as does pretty much anyone who doesn't endorse Israel's view of the world, but that doesn't make his quote that robslob posted wrong in any way.

[Edited on 4/24/2015 by gondicar]

 

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  posted on 4/24/2015 at 04:45 PM
This thread has taken a somewhat strange turn away from Jimmy Carter abandoning the Southern Baptist Convention.
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Poor Jimmy.
He tries so hard to remain relevant.
In his duel with Obama for the “Worst President of the Modern Era” title, he delves into the War on Women false narrative.


Reading the quote below from the Carter essay, I fail to see how Carter is being irrelevant. And any discussion of Carter's politics is irrelevant to his view of the church's treatment of women.

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So my decision to sever my ties with the Southern Baptist Convention, after six decades, was painful and difficult. It was, however, an unavoidable decision when the convention's leaders, quoting a few carefully selected Bible verses and claiming that Eve was created second to Adam and was responsible for original sin, ordained that women must be "subservient" to their husbands and prohibited from serving as deacons, pastors or chaplains in the military service.



[Edited on 4/24/2015 by robslob]

 

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  posted on 4/25/2015 at 10:23 AM
I applaud Carter for this timely statement. It must have been a tough decision to call out his own people so strongly. Re people here all but accusing him of being a terrorist, I suggest you look up the word ""diplomacy".

Since the majority here can't seem to address the subject and prefer to rip on Carter, here is the headline you would rather see:
JIMMY CARTER SAYS: "KEEP EM BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT, RAZE GAZASCHWITZ, AND NUKE IRAN!"

 

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I applaud Carter for this timely statement. It must have been a tough decision to call out his own people so strongly. Re people here all but accusing him of being a terrorist, I suggest you look up the word ""diplomacy".

Since the majority here can't seem to address the subject and prefer to rip on Carter, here is the headline you would rather see:
JIMMY CARTER SAYS: "KEEP EM BAREFOOT AND PREGNANT, RAZE GAZASCHWITZ, AND NUKE IRAN!"

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No one is accusing Cater of being a terrorist.
Like Obama, he is a anti-Israel Muslim sympathizer.

The word diplomacy should never be associated with Jimmy Carter.

Remember his Camp David Accord deal? How long did that fiasco last?
Iran took Americans hostage and Cater failed to get them freed.

Jimmy Carter’s foreign diplomacy skills are akin to Obamas; abject failure.



 

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Ok, we could discuss Carter's views on the Middle East, or stick with the topic. Personal animosity towards Mr. Peanut aside, you have to agree that hs move against the Southern Baptist Convention, and speaking out against institutionalized oppression of women is extremely brave and laudable. Or how about we quibble over everything but that issue to cloak our real views on the matter?
 

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Ok, we could discuss Carter's views on the Middle East, or stick with the topic. Personal animosity towards Mr. Peanut aside, you have to agree that hs move against the Southern Baptist Convention, and speaking out against institutionalized oppression of women is extremely brave and laudable. Or how about we quibble over everything but that issue to cloak our real views on the matter?


If there was a "like" button on this website I'd hit it 50 times. Well said.

 

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Ok, we could discuss Carter's views on the Middle East, or stick with the topic. Personal animosity towards Mr. Peanut aside, you have to agree that hs move against the Southern Baptist Convention, and speaking out against institutionalized oppression of women is extremely brave and laudable. Or how about we quibble over everything but that issue to cloak our real views on the matter?

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This is the typical response of the liberals who oppress women and then go running to the TV cameras and express their outrage about the Republican’s opresson of women, an outright lie.

What institutional oppression of women are you talking about?

The Obama/Hillary bogus “War on Women”?

Hillary’s taking of millions of dollars in donations from countries that oppress women’s basic human rights and kill them if they dare drive a car?

The genital mutilation of girls in countries that give The Clintons millions of dollars?

The phony “pay inequity” of women that both Obama and Hillary actively practice?

That is the topic. Quibbling over exactly what real oppression of women as practiced by Obama and Hillary?



 

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  posted on 4/25/2015 at 04:36 PM
I thought this was about Jimmy Carter - who is trying to make it more than that?

 

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  posted on 4/25/2015 at 04:48 PM
It seems that the topic of all threads is Liberal incompetence.
 

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  posted on 4/25/2015 at 05:17 PM
Now that is funny.
Liberals crying about staying on the theme of the topic.

The posts are directly tied to the topic, the Democrats phony "War on Women".


 

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Now that is funny.
Liberals crying about staying on the theme of the topic.

The posts are directly tied to the topic, the Democrats phony "War on Women".




No, the thread has nothing to do with Democrats, Obama or Clinton. It has to do with Jimmy Carter and his feelings about the church he belonged to.

 

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Now that is funny.
Liberals crying about staying on the theme of the topic.

The posts are directly tied to the topic, the Democrats phony "War on Women".




No, the thread has nothing to do with Democrats, Obama or Clinton. It has to do with Jimmy Carter and his feelings about the church he belonged to.



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Now that is funny.
Liberals crying about staying on the theme of the topic.

The posts are directly tied to the topic, the Democrats phony "War on Women".




No, the thread has nothing to do with Democrats, Obama or Clinton. It has to do with Jimmy Carter and his feelings about the church he belonged to.



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Wrong.

Jimmy Carter is a Democrat and conducts himself via his political agenda
The Democrats, specifically Obama and Hillary, use the false Republican’s War on Women as a populist political issue and that is why Carter speaks out on the non-issue.



 

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  posted on 4/25/2015 at 06:10 PM
Wrong. Again.


 

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  posted on 4/25/2015 at 06:46 PM
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Wrong. Again.




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It says "wrong" but doesn't say why or offer an opposing opinion, much less facts.

When it can’t make an intellectual argument, post an irrelevant image.

 
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