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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 04:32 PM
Bad news. We reached a peaceful deal with Iran that will prevent them from getting the bomb. What a disgrace....negotiating a peace deal. Only a weak leader would do such a thing. Obama clearly supports terrorism by reaching such a deal. It's only a matter of time before this peace deal backfires and Iran arms ISIS and Al-queda with nukes, and we all die. A strong leader like Putin would increase tensions with more animosity, and never work towards peace wth these animals. Where's Putin and Netanyahu when you need them?

In all seriousness, I'm glad our hard work paid off. Lets hope both sides hold up their end of the bargain.

 
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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 05:19 PM
Yeah, but the Republicans will vote it down in Congress which will mean... Actually, it will mean nothing.
 

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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 06:01 PM
i wouldn't call it a deal myself. nothing has been signed and final framework hasn't even been agree'd to.

 

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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 06:19 PM
Mission Accomplished!

 

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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 06:35 PM
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Mission Accomplished!


Maybe they should have sent in Mr. Phelps from the get-go!

Seriously I think it is a chance at peace. Iran being allowed to still produce uranium just not to enrichment (purity) levels needed to make a nuclear bomb is the world community saying okay, you can have peaceful nuclear energy; but if they covertly do anything else, we know that they will be aligned with Russia and China and then we will be effed. Some think that is too much of a gamble, but trust gets earned one step at a time. As one newsman pointed out, at least with the deal, inspectors can go in there, without a deal, they can't look at anything. That is something to consider.



[Edited on 4/2/2015 by gina]

 

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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 07:07 PM
el porko was so flustered about this he had to go to commercial to compose himself.

Damn funny listening to him sputter and grasp for words after the speech was broadcast.

I'm sure mccain and graham are not pleased with having one less chance to start a war noone but haliburton and tea bagging loons want.

 

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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 07:52 PM
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I'm sure mccain and graham are not pleased with having one less chance to start a war noone but haliburton and tea bagging loons want.


 

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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 09:52 PM
There isn't even a deal that has been finalized yet and there is a good chance still that one won't happen so people should just chill out. If this deal does happen and it is followed as explained it is a very good deal.

The only other option will be bombing and the experts say that at best we can set them back 5 years and if Israel do it themselves maybe 3 years and then they will be right back where they are now. If there is any collateral damage during such bombing then we turn into the bad guys and galvanize the Iranian people against us and unite them with their government.

If anyone thinks more and tougher sanctions will work keep dreaming. They will dig in and speed up their nuke program if we were to increase sanctions and that is if we even could. In order for sanctions to work we need the same cooperation from a bunch of other countries some which we don't like and that don't like us. Very doubtful those countries continue to sanction and increase sanctions if they feel a good deal was passed up and from what I understand most if not all of those countries think of this if it is finalized as described as a very good deal, much better than originally expected and much better than how the Republicans are trying to spin it.

 

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  posted on 4/2/2015 at 10:27 PM
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I'm sure mccain and graham are not pleased with having one less chance to start a war noone but haliburton and tea bagging loons want.





If you've been around this site for any length of time you'd know that we usually spell it as "noone".

Because

 

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  posted on 4/3/2015 at 07:50 AM
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If you've been around this site for any length of time you'd know that we usually spell it as "noone".

Because


That was the reissue after he got famous. I prefer the original release:

 

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  posted on 4/3/2015 at 08:34 AM
OMG this is terrible news! Guess this means the Nuculer, as G. Dubya would say, Apocalypse is right around the corner. Would love to stay and chat but I have to start digging my bomb shelter in the back yard.

[Edited on 4/3/2015 by Bill_Graham]

 

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  posted on 4/3/2015 at 10:18 AM
Bob1964 is killing me.


HAHAHAHAHAA!!!


 

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  posted on 4/3/2015 at 03:26 PM
Peter no one....that is hilarious.
 

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  posted on 4/3/2015 at 03:38 PM
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el porko was so flustered about this he had to go to commercial to compose himself.

Damn funny listening to him sputter and grasp for words after the speech was broadcast.

I'm sure mccain and graham are not pleased with having one less chance to start a war noone but haliburton and tea bagging loons want.




Probably enough to make el porko start doctor shopping again? Pills, pills...he needs pills!

 

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  posted on 4/3/2015 at 09:03 PM
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el porko was so flustered about this he had to go to commercial to compose himself.

Damn funny listening to him sputter and grasp for words after the speech was broadcast.

I'm sure mccain and graham are not pleased with having one less chance to start a war noone but haliburton and tea bagging loons want.




Probably enough to make el porko start doctor shopping again? Pills, pills...he needs pills!


Is that a problem in Costa Rica? I thought he lived in Costa Rica now.

 

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  posted on 4/4/2015 at 10:23 AM
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i wouldn't call it a deal myself. nothing has been signed and final framework hasn't even been agree'd to.


When the final framework has been agreed to and the deal gets signed, I still wouldn't call it a deal because it won't be worth the paper it's written on.

The sanctions had crippled their economy. Can't have that.

"Negotiating" with Iran. My God.

 

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Negotiating with Iran worked for Reagan. He just gave them weapons for hostages. Today we would call that capitulating to the terrorist but I don't see you denigrating Reagan.

Nowadays I guess Reagan would just shut out the middle man and sell Iran nuclear weapons.

Alloak - Iran is one of the oldest civilizations on the planet. They have been negotiating deals far longer than America has been a country. That is how diplomacy works.

Your statement: ""Negotiating" with Iran. My God." Shows ignorance and naivety.

Do you prefer another war?

 

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Negotiating with Iran worked for Reagan. He just gave them weapons for hostages. Today we would call that capitulating to the terrorist but I don't see you denigrating Reagan.

Nowadays I guess Reagan would just shut out the middle man and sell Iran nuclear weapons.

Alloak - Iran is one of the oldest civilizations on the planet. They have been negotiating deals far longer than America has been a country. That is how diplomacy works.

Your statement: ""Negotiating" with Iran. My God." Shows ignorance and naivety.

Do you prefer another war?


Alloak, do you prefer the guns or butter approach? You can even do a little catering for pizza to stimulate the economy.

 

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  posted on 4/4/2015 at 12:55 PM
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i wouldn't call it a deal myself. nothing has been signed and final framework hasn't even been agree'd to.


When the final framework has been agreed to and the deal gets signed, I still wouldn't call it a deal because it won't be worth the paper it's written on.

The sanctions had crippled their economy. Can't have that.

"Negotiating" with Iran. My God.


Then what would you propose? The sanctions may have damaged their economy, but they were going to develop nukes anyway. So a deal has been reached that would allow thorough inspections. If they renege on the deal, the sanctions come back.

I'm curious to hear what those opposed to this think should be done.

 

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  posted on 4/4/2015 at 05:51 PM
You know very well what it is.

john mccain and company would want to go all out bombs away.

 

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  posted on 4/4/2015 at 05:58 PM
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Negotiating with Iran worked for Reagan. He just gave them weapons for hostages. Today we would call that capitulating to the terrorist but I don't see you denigrating Reagan.

Nowadays I guess Reagan would just shut out the middle man and sell Iran nuclear weapons.

Alloak - Iran is one of the oldest civilizations on the planet. They have been negotiating deals far longer than America has been a country. That is how diplomacy works.

Your statement: ""Negotiating" with Iran. My God." Shows ignorance and naivety.

Do you prefer another war?


I wish I shared your optimism. However, it did little to sway my opinion. I'm not sure who the na´ve one is here.

 

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Negotiating with Iran worked for Reagan. He just gave them weapons for hostages. Today we would call that capitulating to the terrorist but I don't see you denigrating Reagan.

Nowadays I guess Reagan would just shut out the middle man and sell Iran nuclear weapons.

Alloak - Iran is one of the oldest civilizations on the planet. They have been negotiating deals far longer than America has been a country. That is how diplomacy works.

Your statement: ""Negotiating" with Iran. My God." Shows ignorance and naivety.

Do you prefer another war?


I wish I shared your optimism. However, it did little to sway my opinion. I'm not sure who the na´ve one is here.



In this day and age it is hard to be optimistic. Let's face it, the United States tortures foreign prisoners and spies and our allies. I'm sure there is some kind of music forum in Iran where some fan of that Iranian band has just written, "Negotiating" with America? My God.

But isn't diplomacy where these kinds of things start? You still haven't answered about preferring war instead.

This one might be a war where we actually have to make sacrifices and send our children and grand children to be perhaps maimed and killed. Are you willing to make that commitment?

 

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  posted on 4/4/2015 at 08:06 PM
20 yrs ago they said it would be 5 yrs. this isn't a bad framework. if it can be verified and fulfilled then maybe its a place to begin. if it can't i believe everything those who disagree with the deal will like what is there also. i think its still to early to tell.

 

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  posted on 4/5/2015 at 07:56 AM
The framework of this deal may look okay to some of us from the comfortable shores of America, but Israel certainly isn't pleased, and they have a huge stake in what happens in the middle east. Just this week the commanding general of Iran's Revolutionary Guard said "The destruction of Israel is non negotiable". Israel has a problem with Iran and on going nuclear development. Iran had a secret location it did not disclose to us, we had to find out through our own intelligence efforts. If Israel even thinks Iran is working on anything to do with weaponry they are likely to bomb Iran no matter what we do. That would be very bad news for all of us. Verification and transparency will be the key to this deal.

 

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  posted on 4/5/2015 at 09:28 AM
Do the imposed sanctions really hurt the one who can make the nukes or just the common folk who struggle?
I would think lifting such should help the overall economy and general public.
Periodic inspections may or maynot reviel the production of Uranium.

 
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