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Author: Subject: Blake Shelton: Superstar or Country Hack?

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 12:05 PM
I had a 60 Minutes segment on Blake Shelton on my DVR and played it this morning. At one point the female host (can't remember her name) asked him somewhat mockingly about the lyrics to one of his biggest hits, "Boys 'Round Here".

Backwoods legit
Don't take no lip
Chew tobacco
Chew tobacco
Chew tobacco
SPIT

Wow. Then they showed a live shot and of course you could see all the 20/30 somethings, mostly female, in the front rows mouthing the words "chew tobacco chew tobacco chew tobacco.....SPIT".

Blake's defense? "Hey, it's just good time music, I'm not trying to make anyone think, just have a good time." And I know from the segment that he's had thirteen #1 country singles.

I'm not saying all his tunes are that stupid, but it's just hard for me to get past that. I mean, can you really imagine Gregg Allman or Dickey Betts writing a lyric like that and putting it in a song? I guess I should know going in with a commercial country artist not to aim TOO high. And I know Shelton's got a nice voice..........I remember loving his segment on the Grammies last year with Willie Nelson, Kris Kristofferson and Merle Haggard.

But those lyrics can only be described as BANAL. And it's not only that: It's the wrong message. It happens to be on the front page of today's San Jose Mercury News that the California State legislature introduced a new bill just yesterday. If it becomes law, "smokeless tobacco" will be banned in every baseball venue in the State, and that means from sandlots up to Major League Baseball. It's already banned in the minors. Let's not forget that beloved San Diego Padres star Tony Gwynn died of oral cancer at age 54 and attributed it to "chew".

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 12:27 PM
Who says he isn't both?

Pretty much everyone knows his name, which makes him a superstar and from what I have heard of his music he's also a country hack.

That said, what little I have watched of The Voice, he seems like a pretty decent guy and is pretty funny.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 01:18 PM
He's in it for the money. todays country is written by 22 year olds for the 12-25 year old country fan, is it dumbed down? yeah, is it contrived, hell yeah, does it make mr shelton millions????? you bet.

 

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He's in it for the money. todays country is written by 22 year olds for the 12-25 year old country fan, is it dumbed down? yeah, is it contrived, hell yeah, does it make mr shelton millions????? you bet.


Where is the "like" button when I need it?

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 02:42 PM
Hahaha

WarEagleRK beat me to the punch. The answer to the thread title is clearly both.

[Soapbox: Which is, of course, for a lot of us, the problem. Or a problem. Or at least just feels ugly. About corporate music. We all have our subjective picks about which superstars (if superstar is now defined as "making a **** ton of money") actually do contribute anything musically, but... doesn't everyone pretty much agree that superstars are, by and large, hacks?]

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 02:55 PM
If you have not seen it yet, the Nashville episode of Sonic Highways does an excellent job of describing the current state of country music and the formula that is used to pump out these so-called "hits."
 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 04:11 PM
I think Blake is an arrogant, loud-mouth with little talent. He has shown little respect for the real country artists of old. He is the new Nashville. When they do get a good country artist like Lee Ann Womack, they slick them up until there is no country authenticity left. He is a hack and superstar only means money!

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 05:05 PM
This is just another instance of basic pre-fab POP music. Genre (when there is one that is distinguishable) doesn't matter.

No offense to this guy or his fans, but he has more to do with the Beibers and Britneys of the world of music. Build it and they will come - video killed the radio star and all that.

I honestly think you could take anybody with the slightest amount of musical talent that happened to have a pretty face or a$$ and cram them down people's psyches via TV and internet and make them a "superstar". If a store only sold white bread, they'd sell a lot of white bread. If they were to throw in some rye, wheat and bagels - they'd probably sell some of those, too.

What sucks about this is that there are true musical artists - some of them bona fide geniuses, who will only be heard by a handful of loyal followers in their lives. There are people like Randall Bramblett who write and perform amazing songs but don't fit into any pre-conceived genre or bin. Col Bruce Hampton is an amazing composer and performer who is known more often for a cameo role in a popular movie than for his music. Then, there are the Kanyes and the Kardashians who are raking in money by the truckloads for doing ... whatever it is that they do, while true performing, composing MUSICIANS often go without medical insurance or a home of their own.

There was a popular truism several years ago about the genre called "R&B": it ain't got rhythm and it sure as hell ain't the blues! Mainstream, modern "Country and Western"? It ain't country ... period!

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 05:19 PM
I'm not a fan of his music, but he is entertaining on the Voice. He's got a good sense of humor. I read a comment before where he was defensive about new Nashville and seemed disrespectful of the classics, but that doesn't come across at all on the Voice, which is an entertaining show....particularly the blind auditions.

There is some serious talent on the show this season.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 05:30 PM
I saw him perform that "chew tobacco" song on television... maybe Saturday Night Live, and I laughed, got a little kick out of it. But then he did another song and it seemed pretty much the same with different lyrics.

He's got a formula that works. If that is all his audience wants out of the music they listen to - good for them. More tickets for me at shows I like.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 05:42 PM
Another vote for "both." He is pretty clearly a superstar, and pretty clearly a hack. In fact, his hackness actually facilitates his superstardom.

Even so, this whole thing needs a little explanation apparently....

Chew tobacco
Chew tobacco
Chew tobacco
Spit!

This is an ancient schoolyard meme in the South that was probably old before Blake Shelton was born.

Is it hackery to include such a cliche in a song? Of course it is, but at least he didn't write it.

 
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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 06:57 PM
I was at a festival to see Gary Clarke Jr & he was great..but while leavimng the other headliner was playing-Sheldon,& I stopped for 4-5 songs..just to see what he's about..& he's definitely Superstar material.The audience was mesmerized & I really enjoyed him.He so genuinly enjoyed the audience & fed off them & gave back.I was impressed & am not a country fan,per say. B ut he is 1 of those 'bigger than life' performers..believe it or not!
 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 07:11 PM
Who says he isn't both?

Pretty much everyone knows his name, which makes him a superstar and from what I have heard of his music he's also a country hack.

That said, what little I have watched of The Voice, he seems like a pretty decent guy and is pretty funny.


pretty decent guy...have you ever heard his song where he sings about beating up gays...wow what a rolemodel...typical southern white trash

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 08:38 PM
You can find the real deal these days, its called "Americana".

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 09:52 PM
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pretty decent guy...have you ever heard his song where he sings about beating up gays...wow what a rolemodel...typical southern white trash



Is Oklahoma the south? Why can't he just be "trash" without the southern or white?

I guess I should just be glad you didn't say "redneck"-- the only socially acceptable racial epithet these days.

 

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  posted on 2/25/2015 at 10:14 PM
I looked it up....he had a tweet that people were offended by where he re-wrote a line from a Shania Twain song saying wtf "if a guy grabbed my butt they'd get a beating and be bleeding and heaving" as a joke.

People jumped on him saying it was homophobic. He apologized and said the joke was was supposed to be from Shania's point of view (that she was a bad-a and that's how she should sing it). The gay rights group jumping on him seemed to accept the apology and his explanation.

I doubted he had an actual song about beating up gays......unless there is something else I missed on google.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2015 at 12:26 AM


Here is an example of what everyone hates about modern country. Six songs that all sound alike played together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o

 

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pretty decent guy...have you ever heard his song where he sings about beating up gays...wow what a rolemodel...typical southern white trash



Never heard the song and from my extensive research of reading above apparently there wasn't a song at all, just a tweet.



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  posted on 2/26/2015 at 12:45 AM
I ain't crazy about him but he does have a few tunes I like.
His wife (Miranda Lambert) is the real deal, so he gets some points there.
He's been on the scene longer than many people realize.
He used to never be seen without a cowboy hat & mullet combo.
His good fortunes started when he ditched it.

 

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Here is an example of what everyone hates about modern country. Six songs that all sound alike played together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o


That was a great video and pretty much says it all.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2015 at 08:48 AM
Not that anyone is arguing this point, but let's add up all the money members here spend on seeing the Allman Brothers Band, add in all associated family bands, Mule, TTB, etc, add in all the money all those bands make in any given year from touring, CD sales whatever - add all that up.

Now compare with whatever Blake Shelton makes.

I don't have links or up to date figures, but one website said he is worth $50 million and got $12 million in 2013, for just The Voice.

I know none of that equates to his being a good musician or not, but I have always admired these superstars that are able to capitalize on their celebrity and make good, Madonna, Lady Gaga, on and on.

I don't like their music, but it is not required for me to like them or buy their crap. They are doing just fine without me and you for that matter.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2015 at 09:14 AM
To the OP:
I think he is both. He is very talented country singer and knows how market himself and his music.
I'm not a country music fan but he has a great voice, seems pretty genuine.

 

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Here is an example of what everyone hates about modern country. Six songs that all sound alike played together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8SwIvxj8o
That was horrible!. an all out assault on the senses I need to go listen to some Haggard!.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2015 at 12:03 PM
This was the cure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY8AFtlAykA for that horrible cacophony.

 

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  posted on 2/26/2015 at 12:46 PM
"Bro" modern country is horrible despite how popular it is. That mashup kind of proves the case.

And going back to Blake, he makes awful musical choices (or has awful taste) that the masses seem to love, but the guy has a very good voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlAJAPl2RCk


 

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