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Author: Subject: Colin Powell:"Obama was the right choice in 2008, and the right choice in 2012".

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  posted on 9/21/2014 at 05:09 PM
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  posted on 9/21/2014 at 05:36 PM
I have never cared for Colin Powell because I have seen numerous officers like him in the military that are ticket punchers and know how to play the game and climb the corporate latter. In 1973 a highly decorated Special Forces Master Sergeant who fought as a member of the Hungarian resistance as teenager and served multiple tours in Viet Nam was on assignment in South Korea. The SF Master Sergeant, who was recovering from numerous war wounds, was attacked by three black panthers also serving in the Army and after the three of them took the Sergeant down they slit his throat but luckily the Sergeant survived. The three assailants were caught and brought up on charges of attempted murder as well as many other charges. The serving Inspector General had all of the charges dropped for reasons unknown when it was clear that they would have been found guilty of the charges and sentenced in a Court Martial to a lengthy term in Leavenworth. The Inspector General was Lt. Col Colin Powell so it is no wonder that he reverts to Tribalism when supporting an incompetent fraud like Obama . The Rockefeller Republicans that inserted him into positions of power are equally nauseating to me.

 

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I have never cared for Colin Powell because I have seen numerous officers like him in the military that are ticket punchers and know how to play the game and climb the corporate latter. In 1973 a highly decorated Special Forces Master Sergeant who fought as a member of the Hungarian resistance as teenager and served multiple tours in Viet Nam was on assignment in South Korea. The SF Master Sergeant, who was recovering from numerous war wounds, was attacked by three black panthers also serving in the Army and after the three of them took the Sergeant down they slit his throat but luckily the Sergeant survived. The three assailants were caught and brought up on charges of attempted murder as well as many other charges. The serving Inspector General had all of the charges dropped for reasons unknown when it was clear that they would have been found guilty of the charges and sentenced in a Court Martial to a lengthy term in Leavenworth. The Inspector General was Lt. Col Colin Powell so it is no wonder that he reverts to Tribalism when supporting an incompetent fraud like Obama . The Rockefeller Republicans that inserted him into positions of power are equally nauseating to me.
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  posted on 9/21/2014 at 06:23 PM
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I have never cared for Colin Powell because I have seen numerous officers like him in the military that are ticket punchers and know how to play the game and climb the corporate latter. In 1973 a highly decorated Special Forces Master Sergeant who fought as a member of the Hungarian resistance as teenager and served multiple tours in Viet Nam was on assignment in South Korea. The SF Master Sergeant, who was recovering from numerous war wounds, was attacked by three black panthers also serving in the Army and after the three of them took the Sergeant down they slit his throat but luckily the Sergeant survived. The three assailants were caught and brought up on charges of attempted murder as well as many other charges. The serving Inspector General had all of the charges dropped for reasons unknown when it was clear that they would have been found guilty of the charges and sentenced in a Court Martial to a lengthy term in Leavenworth. The Inspector General was Lt. Col Colin Powell so it is no wonder that he reverts to Tribalism when supporting an incompetent fraud like Obama . The Rockefeller Republicans that inserted him into positions of power are equally nauseating to me.


Tribalism?! you know I did not think it possible Scotty but for a second there you actually made a racist remark sound semi intelligent.

 

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  posted on 9/21/2014 at 07:45 PM
Gen. Powell was the only member of the bush administration with any integrity whatsoever. I was not surprised when he resigned.

 

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  posted on 9/21/2014 at 08:32 PM
Great interview but I sure wish Powell would have fought his bosses harder on invading Iraq instead of kneeling and bobbing and conducting that fake justification steaming pile of dog crap presentation at the UN. I lost a ton of respect for him because of that.

 

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  posted on 9/21/2014 at 09:35 PM
A pretty important part is left out, and that's WHY Powell feels the way he does about Obama being the right choice. I'd be very interested in hearing what it could be based on.

No surprise it never came up, though.

 

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Here's the whole interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynK54tBOWo4

 

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Another thing that rubs me wrong about Powell is he fully acknowledges the bat crap nuts ignorant racist faction of the GOP has hijacked the party narrative yet he still calls himself a republican.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 09:26 AM
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Another thing that rubs me wrong about Powell is he fully acknowledges the bat crap nuts ignorant racist faction of the GOP has hijacked the party narrative yet he still calls himself a republican.
He's more of a moderate, than the extreme right wing wack job that is todays republican.

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 09:40 AM
Yes, today's Republican is so far out of the mainstream it's almost hopeless. This will be proven in the upcoming election when the Democrats wipe the floor with them. And the GOP is about to get punished by the voters for obstructing Obama.
 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 10:42 AM
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Yes, today's Republican is so far out of the mainstream it's almost hopeless. This will be proven in the upcoming election when the Democrats wipe the floor with them. And the GOP is about to get punished by the voters for obstructing Obama.


Turnover in Congress is cyclical my friend and means nothing in the big scheme of things. The brass ring is the Presidency and lets see if the GOP can even field a candidate with a prayer of beating Hillary or whatever candidate the Dems end up running.

As of today the GOP looks pretty bankrupt of viable candidates.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 11:13 AM
The only thing the GOP has is gerrymandering for senate/house of congress seats or buying them.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 11:18 AM
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A pretty important part is left out, and that's WHY Powell feels the way he does about Obama being the right choice. I'd be very interested in hearing what it could be based on.

What do you think it is?
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No surprise it never came up, though.

If this swipe is intended to suggest that he can't/won't answer the question, you'd be barking up the wrong tree. He has said why before and it is easy to find.

[Edited on 9/22/2014 by gondicar]

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 12:40 PM
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Tribalism?! you know I did not think it possible Scotty but for a second there you actually made a racist remark sound semi intelligent.
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Tribalism is racisms ugly twin but as usual most people are unaware of its significance and how it undermines and corrupts our society. Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with this precept before hurling histrionic invectives. Robert Reich has written some excellent articles on it and so has Thomas Sowell and other noteworthy scholars.

Pop; the individual I speak of was my Company Commander's Father when I was his Operations Sergeant /Company Sergeant Major so I am aware of the incident from the first hand source. I will not provide his name (The Commander) as he still on active duty. Furthermore; Colin Powell never held command of a combat unit above the Battalion level which is highly indicative of his capacity as an Infantry Officer.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 12:44 PM
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Yes, today's Republican is so far out of the mainstream it's almost hopeless. This will be proven in the upcoming election when the Democrats wipe the floor with them. And the GOP is about to get punished by the voters for obstructing Obama.


I completely understand the really wealthy people voting republican. That's what the GOP is all about. Giving the wealthy everything they want while screwing over everyone else is their number one goal and at the very top of their agenda.

What I do find amazing and quite sad is middle class and poor people who also buy into this nonsense and vote against their own economic interests for some ignorant bat crap nuts republican who has his lips firmly planted to ALEC and the Koch brothers rich asses just because the president is black.

[Edited on 9/22/2014 by Peachypetewi]

 

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Yes, today's Republican is so far out of the mainstream it's almost hopeless. This will be proven in the upcoming election when the Democrats wipe the floor with them. And the GOP is about to get punished by the voters for obstructing Obama.


I completely understand the really wealthy people voting republican. That's what the GOP is all about. Giving the wealthy everything they want while screwing over everyone else is their number one goal and at the very top of their agenda.

What I do find amazing and quite sad is middle class and poor people who also buy into this nonsense and vote against their own economic interests for some ignorant bat crap nuts republican who has his lips firmly planted to ALEC and the Koch brothers rich asses just because the president is black.

[Edited on 9/22/2014 by Peachypetewi]


Could not agree more but the GOP also cater to the middle class and poor's fears with their election propaganda. GOP Carpetbagger Scott Brown has made Mexico illegal immigration and fear of ISIS central points in his NH Senate campaign. While these certainly are issues that merit consideration seems there are certainly more important issues for the citizens of NH and he is playing to the uninformed voters fears. Unbelievably the polls show a dead heat with well respected incumbent Jeanne Shaheen.

I live in Mass where we saw through that empty suits rhetoric, when he got beaten badly in his reelection bid to rising star Senator Elizabeth Warren, so hopefully the residents of NH will come to their senses.



[Edited on 9/22/2014 by Bill_Graham]

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Tribalism?! you know I did not think it possible Scotty but for a second there you actually made a racist remark sound semi intelligent.
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Tribalism is racisms ugly twin but as usual most people are unaware of its significance and how it undermines and corrupts our society. Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with this precept before hurling histrionic invectives. Robert Reich has written some excellent articles on it and so has Thomas Sowell and other noteworthy scholars.

Pop; the individual I speak of was my Company Commander's Father when I was his Operations Sergeant /Company Sergeant Major so I am aware of the incident from the first hand source. I will not provide his name (The Commander) as he still on active duty. Furthermore; Colin Powell never held command of a combat unit above the Battalion level which is highly indicative of his capacity as an Infantry Officer.
HMMM, it seems your company commander's father may have had a problem with a black man rising to a high rank in the military, and I doubt his accusations about Gen. Powell.

 

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Yes, today's Republican is so far out of the mainstream it's almost hopeless. This will be proven in the upcoming election when the Democrats wipe the floor with them. And the GOP is about to get punished by the voters for obstructing Obama.


I completely understand the really wealthy people voting republican. That's what the GOP is all about. Giving the wealthy everything they want while screwing over everyone else is their number one goal and at the very top of their agenda.

What I do find amazing and quite sad is middle class and poor people who also buy into this nonsense and vote against their own economic interests for some ignorant bat crap nuts republican who has his lips firmly planted to ALEC and the Koch brothers rich asses just because the president is black.

[Edited on 9/22/2014 by Peachypetewi]
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Tribalism?! you know I did not think it possible Scotty but for a second there you actually made a racist remark sound semi intelligent.
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Tribalism is racisms ugly twin but as usual most people are unaware of its significance and how it undermines and corrupts our society. Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with this precept before hurling histrionic invectives. Robert Reich has written some excellent articles on it and so has Thomas Sowell and other noteworthy scholars.

Pop; the individual I speak of was my Company Commander's Father when I was his Operations Sergeant /Company Sergeant Major so I am aware of the incident from the first hand source. I will not provide his name (The Commander) as he still on active duty. Furthermore; Colin Powell never held command of a combat unit above the Battalion level which is highly indicative of his capacity as an Infantry Officer.


You can quote all the authors you like my friend but that does not change the tone of your post from being racist.

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Tribalism?! you know I did not think it possible Scotty but for a second there you actually made a racist remark sound semi intelligent.


Tribalism is racisms ugly twin but as usual most people are unaware of its significance and how it undermines and corrupts our society. Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with this precept before hurling histrionic invectives. Robert Reich has written some excellent articles on it and so has Thomas Sowell and other noteworthy scholars.

Pop; the individual I speak of was my Company Commander's Father when I was his Operations Sergeant /Company Sergeant Major so I am aware of the incident from the first hand source. I will not provide his name (The Commander) as he still on active duty. Furthermore; Colin Powell never held command of a combat unit above the Battalion level which is highly indicative of his capacity as an Infantry Officer.


Scotty, you originally write (quoted below, emphasis added) that you and others don't know why the charges were dropped, but then go on to say "no wonder that he reverts to Tribalism". For you to go there tells me, a) you have other unsaid reasons for accusing Powell of tribalism/racism, or b) it is just the easiest explanation you could come up with. Either way, it is an interesting and telling perspective.

I understand tribalism and racism are not the same thing, although in this context you seem to be equating the two. I am unaware of any connection between the two men that could possibly explain your remark, except for their race. Is there something else?

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The serving Inspector General had all of the charges dropped for reasons unknown when it was clear that they would have been found guilty of the charges and sentenced in a Court Martial to a lengthy term in Leavenworth. The Inspector General was Lt. Col Colin Powell so it is no wonder that he reverts to Tribalism when supporting an incompetent fraud like Obama .




[Edited on 9/22/2014 by gondicar]

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 02:33 PM
Racist=anyone winning an argument with a liberal

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 02:50 PM
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What argument? Who is arguing with you? I never challenged what you were saying only how you presented it. I have no idea if what you are claiming about Colin Powell is true or not but your use of the term "tribalism" smacks of racism in the context you used it in IMHO.

 

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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 03:00 PM
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Racist=anyone winning an argument with a liberal

That's not really fair, and is a cheap way to avoid more discussion. That said, I'm not even sure what "argument" you think you are winning (Powell is racist? Powell is/was unfit to command? There is no other reason Powell would have dropped the charges in the case you referenced, or support Obama, other than "tribalism"? All of the above? None of the above?). I am really just trying to understand your POV better. I laid out how I am interpreting what you wrote in hopes that you would help me understand better if I am off base. If you are not interested, that's fine.

PS - I was not calling you a racist, nor do I consider myself a liberal, so your little quip, if aimed at me, is off base. It does, however, seem to me like you are calling Powell a racist (under the guise of tribalism), and that's what I am struggling with.



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  posted on 9/22/2014 at 06:01 PM
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A pretty important part is left out, and that's WHY Powell feels the way he does about Obama being the right choice. I'd be very interested in hearing what it could be based on.

What do you think it is?



A reluctance to admit that Obama is an empty suit, in over his head and overmatched by any situation that presents itself?

 
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