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  posted on 6/12/2014 at 07:31 PM
I know, I know. The Tea Party is only about taxes and smaller government, and aren't really full of nut jobs. I've had it all wrong. They are true Patriots who only care about the constitution and have been unfairly characterized a wackos and extremists:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/11/scott-esk-stoning-gays_n_5486678.h tml

Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma, got into a debate on Facebook last summer in which he advocated killing homosexuals.

“I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

When pressed, Esk added: "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it."

Esk is running for the state's House of Representatives. The primary is scheduled for June 24.

When contacted by Morris, who runs the news outlet Moore Daily, Esk didn't deny making the comments or back down from the rhetoric.

"That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."

The Raw Story notes that in other Facebook posts, Esk has said that laws punishing gays should be instituted locally so people "can decide for themselves whether they want to live in a particular community based in part on how things like this are dealt with.”

The comments have quickly gone viral, drawing attention to other parts of his platform... and those views aren't any less extreme.

Esk wants to "punish abortionists severely for their committing of murder" and punish federal bureaucrats who try to enact the provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

In addition, he's against all forms of gun licenses, wants to cut education funding "which I don’t consider a proper function of government" and believes "the EPA, FDA, OSHA, etc." "have no legitimate reason for existing, since they’re unConstitutional."

Esk wants to make divorce more difficult as well. He's calling for jury trials for divorce cases and an end to no-fault proceedings.

"I also don’t buy into the notion that it’s unfair to make somebody stay in a marriage he’s unhappy with," Esk wrote.

Esk was married for 15 years until "frivolous divorce raised its ugly head in the Esk home," he notes on his campaign website. (You can see him speak more about divorce in the video below.)

Esk's Facebook page contains other stunners, including a December 2013 post written shortly after Nelson Mandela's death in which he called the former South African president a "communist thug" and a "low-life."

And in November 2013, he wrote of calling 911 to report "a large group of Mexicans" gathered at an Oklahoma City mall geared toward Latino shoppers because he "suspected that many of them were guilty of being here illegally."

His long rant notes that police didn't respond to his emergency call.

Esk was a computer programmer in the state's Department of Public Safety, but has "since gravitated toward courier work." He also owns a window-washing business.

"I look forward to applying Biblical principles to Oklahoma law," Esk writes on his website.

 
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  posted on 6/12/2014 at 08:08 PM
Just one bad apple. His words were taken out of context. He didn't say he would personally kill gays, he only said he wouldn't have a problem if all of them were murdered. Big difference there 2112.
 

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  posted on 6/12/2014 at 08:57 PM
Just your typical Tea Partier if we've ever seen one. Stoning gay people to death is a major item, at or near the top of their agenda, and more people need to know that.
 

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  posted on 6/12/2014 at 11:05 PM
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Just your typical Tea Partier if we've ever seen one. Stoning gay people to death is a major item, at or near the top of their agenda, and more people need to know that.


May not be part of their official platform, and certainly the majority of tea partiers probably don't hold quite this extrene view, but it sure does seem like the Tea Party seems to attract these wackos. When people defend the Tea Party saying they only care about taxes, it is clear that many of these Tea Partiers hold extreme views that are out of step with mainstream (sane) views. It is clear to me that many (if not most) of those in the Tea Party hold extreme views that go well beyond tax policy.

 

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  posted on 6/13/2014 at 10:02 AM
mainstream views are sane???
 

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  posted on 6/13/2014 at 12:58 PM
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More so than these extremest views.

 

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Of course, the term "extremist views" has had to be watered down and cheapened to the point of not necessarily meaning much of anything....kind of like "racism." Hell, in 2014 a balanced budget is considered an "extremist" view by many. Half are pro-life, yet are still considered "extremists."
 

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Of course, the term "extremist views" has had to be watered down and cheapened to the point of not necessarily meaning much of anything....kind of like "racism." Hell, in 2014 a balanced budget is considered an "extremist" view by many. Half are pro-life, yet are still considered "extremists."


If you say so, but when I used the term that is not what I was referring to.

 

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Of course, the term "extremist views" has had to be watered down and cheapened to the point of not necessarily meaning much of anything....kind of like "racism." Hell, in 2014 a balanced budget is considered an "extremist" view by many. Half are pro-life, yet are still considered "extremists."


Another "wow".

So you would disagree that GOP efforts are not extreme in state after state to 1) suppress minority votes (i.e. - create a solution for which a real problem does not exist - see Pennsylvania for but one example) and 2) eliminate a woman's choice by closing down abortion centers?

I guess these examples are your idea of watered down terminology?

 

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  posted on 6/13/2014 at 04:18 PM
it's morons like this who ruined the teaparty of 2009-2010 by spouting off like ralph reed and the like. they co-opted the teaparty name and are no different than evangelicals. small government is one thing but these dopes still don't get that you can't legislate morality.
 

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  posted on 6/13/2014 at 04:39 PM
Never surprised at what these bat sh_t crazy tea partiers say. They should call themselves the 'dropped on head multiple times as babies party'!!!

 

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  posted on 6/13/2014 at 10:57 PM
Don't debate. Dismiss.
 

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  posted on 6/14/2014 at 09:44 AM
There's nothing to debate; stoning people to death because of their choice of same sex partners, whether you agree with their decision or not, is wrong.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2014 at 12:57 PM

Maybe these kind of fundamentalist fanatics should go sign up in Iran, or some place where this type of crap is promoted.

 

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  posted on 6/14/2014 at 06:40 PM
Some of ya'lls hero ((OBAMA))just let 5 bastards that support such behavior & are responsible for be heading Americans go free.
Please STF up

 

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  posted on 6/14/2014 at 08:27 PM
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There's nothing to debate; stoning people to death because of their choice of same sex partners, whether you agree with their decision or not, is wrong.


Let's not be afraid to go too far out on a limb, now.

That comment wasn't meant to be topic sensitive.

 

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There's nothing to debate; stoning people to death because of their choice of same sex partners, whether you agree with their decision or not, is wrong.


Let's not be afraid to go too far out on a limb, now.

That comment wasn't meant to be topic sensitive.

Shotgun post?

 

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There's nothing to debate; stoning people to death because of their choice of same sex partners, whether you agree with their decision or not, is wrong.


Let's not be afraid to go too far out on a limb, now.

That comment wasn't meant to be topic sensitive.

Shotgun post?


BOOM!

 

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  posted on 6/16/2014 at 08:42 AM
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More so than these extremest views.


"extremist views".

heard a good one while waiting in line (damn tourists...) at Iggy's yesterday down in Narragansett that sort of fits here;

What's the difference between the United States and yogurt?

If you leave one alone for two hundred years it becomes cultured.

How anyone who supports life and the sanctity of marriage can be viewed as extremist is beyond me. I don't believe stoning anyone to death or even casting disparaging remarks is acceptable but why can't I support what I believe in without being an extremist? No, you can't legislate morality, but why do my morals, which differ from what is legislated, get tagged extreme? Because 5 justices say so?

 

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mainstream views are sane???


More so than these extremest views.


"extremist views".

heard a good one while waiting in line (damn tourists...) at Iggy's yesterday down in Narragansett that sort of fits here;

What's the difference between the United States and yogurt?

If you leave one alone for two hundred years it becomes cultured.

How anyone who supports life and the sanctity of marriage can be viewed as extremist is beyond me. I don't believe stoning anyone to death or even casting disparaging remarks is acceptable but why can't I support what I believe in without being an extremist? No, you can't legislate morality, but why do my morals, which differ from what is legislated, get tagged extreme? Because 5 justices say so?


Believing in life and the sanctity of marriage = not extremist

Believing in stoning people to death for any reason = extremist

YMMV

 

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Of course, the term "extremist views" has had to be watered down and cheapened to the point of not necessarily meaning much of anything....kind of like "racism." Hell, in 2014 a balanced budget is considered an "extremist" view by many. Half are pro-life, yet are still considered "extremists."


Another "wow".

So you would disagree that GOP efforts are not extreme in state after state to 1) suppress minority votes (i.e. - create a solution for which a real problem does not exist - see Pennsylvania for but one example) and 2) eliminate a woman's choice by closing down abortion centers?

I guess these examples are your idea of watered down terminology?


1 is blatant bs, simply phony and not true. 2 is only extreme if you believe that opposing abortion is extreme. Millions of people in this country think abortion is murder. Such a position is hardly extreme. Believing it is acceptable to kill abortionists? That would be extreme. You see how we define it downward so merely holding a different viewpoint becomes defined as "extreme" as opposed to incorrect?

 

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it's morons like this who ruined the teaparty of 2009-2010 by spouting off like ralph reed and the like. they co-opted the teaparty name and are no different than evangelicals. small government is one thing but these dopes still don't get that you can't legislate morality.


I agree. If the tea party wants to have a shot at persuading the vast middle about its main positions regarding taxes and government, they simply cannot support religious extremist candidates. Just as the conservative movement purged the John Birch society and the like fifty years ago.

 

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mainstream views are sane???


More so than these extremest views.


"extremist views".

heard a good one while waiting in line (damn tourists...) at Iggy's yesterday down in Narragansett that sort of fits here;

What's the difference between the United States and yogurt?

If you leave one alone for two hundred years it becomes cultured.

How anyone who supports life and the sanctity of marriage can be viewed as extremist is beyond me. I don't believe stoning anyone to death or even casting disparaging remarks is acceptable but why can't I support what I believe in without being an extremist? No, you can't legislate morality, but why do my morals, which differ from what is legislated, get tagged extreme? Because 5 justices say so?


Believing in life and the sanctity of marriage = not extremist

Believing in stoning people to death for any reason = extremist

YMMV



I doubt too many would disagree with the above at least outside of the world of Islam.

 

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mainstream views are sane???


More so than these extremest views.


"extremist views".

heard a good one while waiting in line (damn tourists...) at Iggy's yesterday down in Narragansett that sort of fits here;

What's the difference between the United States and yogurt?

If you leave one alone for two hundred years it becomes cultured.

How anyone who supports life and the sanctity of marriage can be viewed as extremist is beyond me. I don't believe stoning anyone to death or even casting disparaging remarks is acceptable but why can't I support what I believe in without being an extremist? No, you can't legislate morality, but why do my morals, which differ from what is legislated, get tagged extreme? Because 5 justices say so?


Believing in life and the sanctity of marriage = not extremist

Believing in stoning people to death for any reason = extremist

YMMV



I doubt too many would disagree with the above at least outside of the world of Islam.


I agree, yet some people here seem to think their views are being labeled extremist anyway.

 

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it's morons like this who ruined the teaparty of 2009-2010 by spouting off like ralph reed and the like. they co-opted the teaparty name and are no different than evangelicals. small government is one thing but these dopes still don't get that you can't legislate morality.


I agree. If the tea party wants to have a shot at persuading the vast middle about its main positions regarding taxes and government, they simply cannot support religious extremist candidates. Just as the conservative movement purged the John Birch society and the like fifty years ago.


Except there is no discernible difference between the platforms of Fred Kochs John Birchers and his sons modern day Tea Party. They stand for the same exact things.

 

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