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  posted on 5/19/2014 at 10:28 PM
Will the Allman Brothers Band tour beyond the festivals the Beacon runs they have already booked in 2014?

This being the last year of the Allman Brothers Band with Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks on guitars, I would have hoped that the Brothers would have done a big amphitheater tour in August and September. Instead they have only announced gigs at the Wanee, Mountain Jam, Peach & Lockn Festivals bookended between two Beacon runs, with the second not even announced yet.

It looks like I'll have to look into going to one of the three festivals that remain and/or hopefully a Beacon gig if they get announced, if I am to see the Allman Brothers Band one or two more times with Warren and Derek.


 
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  posted on 5/19/2014 at 11:50 PM
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Will the Allman Brothers Band tour beyond the festivals the Beacon runs they have already booked in 2014?

This being the last year of the Allman Brothers Band with Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks on guitars, I would have hoped that the Brothers would have done a big amphitheater tour in August and September. Instead they have only announced gigs at the Wanee, Mountain Jam, Peach & Lockn Festivals bookended between two Beacon runs, with the second not even announced yet.

It looks like I'll have to look into going to one of the three festivals that remain and/or hopefully a Beacon gig if they get announced, if I am to see the Allman Brothers Band one or two more times with Warren and Derek.




No one seems to have any clue. Gregg pulled some BS recently that made no sense when checked against available dates.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2014 at 04:48 AM
Was that the available dates for the remake Beacon gigs, with the addition of two more gigs, making six total that a Gregg mentioned recently?

There's still time right now to announce a late summer tour, but the clock is a ticking. How could the Allman Brothers Band not want to play their home state of Georgia for their last year with Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks? As of now they are only playing New York, Florida, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2014 at 09:00 AM
I went back and looked, and the Atlanta show in Sept '13 was announced around April 20. If they are going into Oct this yr, they may still be on schedule. But who knows? As I've said before, this is a hard band to love.
 

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  posted on 5/20/2014 at 03:37 PM
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I went back and looked, and the Atlanta show in Sept '13 was announced around April 20. If they are going into Oct this yr, they may still be on schedule. But who knows? As I've said before, this is a hard band to love.


Maybe you're right and the Allman Brothers are still on schedule, if they go into October. Here's hoping, as I hope I wouldn't have to travel so far to see them in 2014. Though if last year was announced on April 20th, today is May 20th so time is ticking away.

That said looking at the Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers tour announcement today they have a summer tour that starts early August and ends early October. Which would be similar to the Allmans timeline, just with the Allmans likely doing less gigs.

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  posted on 5/20/2014 at 04:19 PM
It is so frustrating being an ABB fan. I was bracing for high ticket prices and missing great event shows but I was not prepared for a three show and that's it Farewell Maybe tour

So much for going out on a high note.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2014 at 05:17 PM
I recall there being rumors of many a cluster F around them trying to, then not being able to, play Macon or anywhere in the state of Georgia during 2009, their 40th anniversary. and it took until spring of 2010 to actually pull it off.

This is starting to feel like that.

Not putting the blame anywhere, just feels like there is blame to be had, but at this point the clock is ticking.

Petty @ Fenway, Derek & Susan @ Beacon, my fall is filling up & my concert dollars are getting spent....would love to hold out for some ABB, but it's not looking good.

 

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I recall there being rumors of many a cluster F around them trying to, then not being able to, play Macon or anywhere in the state of Georgia during 2009, their 40th anniversary. and it took until spring of 2010 to actually pull it off.

This is starting to feel like that.

Not putting the blame anywhere, just feels like there is blame to be had, but at this point the clock is ticking.

Petty @ Fenway, Derek & Susan @ Beacon, my fall is filling up & my concert dollars are getting spent....would love to hold out for some ABB, but it's not looking good.


I feel the same way about "my concert dollars are getting spent." My wife and I had our first child in December and now instead of going to 60 to 70 concerts annually, I hope to keep it down to 20 or so concerts this year. So as more and more gigs get announced it makes it harder for me to save space for the Allman Brothers Band.

 

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  posted on 5/20/2014 at 09:33 PM
At this point, I'd say that ANY ABB or Gregg Allman show currently on the tour schedule is a big "maybe." Gregg's health has been terrible this year, and doesn't show signs of improvement. That, combined with the constant contradicting interviews from Butch and Gregg show that there is a VERY high level of disorganization within the ABB management. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, to put it mildly. I've got $100 that says those Beacon shows never happen. I can't see how anyone at this point could expect them to tour before the year's out. Even if they put dates on the calendar, what's the likelihood that Gregg shows up? Even if they do carry on without Warren and Derek, it's a pretty pathetic way to end such a wonderful era for this band.
 

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  posted on 5/20/2014 at 10:21 PM
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At this point, I'd say that ANY ABB or Gregg Allman show currently on the tour schedule is a big "maybe." Gregg's health has been terrible this year, and doesn't show signs of improvement. That, combined with the constant contradicting interviews from Butch and Gregg show that there is a VERY high level of disorganization within the ABB management. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, to put it mildly. I've got $100 that says those Beacon shows never happen. I can't see how anyone at this point could expect them to tour before the year's out. Even if they put dates on the calendar, what's the likelihood that Gregg shows up? Even if they do carry on without Warren and Derek, it's a pretty pathetic way to end such a wonderful era for this band.


It has been a bad start to the final year of this amazing era of Warren & Derek in the Allman Brothers Band.

First, Gregg Allman says Oteil Burbridge will be out of the Allman Brothers Band this year, yet he's not. Then Warren Haynes & Derek Trucks release statements that 2014 will be their last year in the Allmans. Then Gregg says 2014 will be the last year for the Allmans. Then Butch Trucks says Gregg doesn't have the right to just end the Allmans. Then Gregg says at the end of 2014 the Allmans will replace Derek, but what about Warren?

Forget the fact that Butch missed his first gig ever in the Allmans during the Beacon run. Followed by Gregg missing two gigs in a row at the Beacon. Then the final four gigs are postponed. Then Butch says they'll play their final gig with Warren & Derek at Madison Square Gardens. Then Gregg says instead of MSG they'll play two more gigs at the Beacon to go along with the four postponed gigs, yet there are no dates.

Right now the Warren & Derek era of the Allman Brothers Band are only going to play full headlining gigs in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia. How can that be it?

 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 05:40 AM
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At this point, I'd say that ANY ABB or Gregg Allman show currently on the tour schedule is a big "maybe." Gregg's health has been terrible this year, and doesn't show signs of improvement. That, combined with the constant contradicting interviews from Butch and Gregg show that there is a VERY high level of disorganization within the ABB management. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, to put it mildly. I've got $100 that says those Beacon shows never happen. I can't see how anyone at this point could expect them to tour before the year's out. Even if they put dates on the calendar, what's the likelihood that Gregg shows up? Even if they do carry on without Warren and Derek, it's a pretty pathetic way to end such a wonderful era for this band.


It has been a bad start to the final year of this amazing era of Warren & Derek in the Allman Brothers Band.

First, Gregg Allman says Oteil Burbridge will be out of the Allman Brothers Band this year, yet he's not. Then Warren Haynes & Derek Trucks release statements that 2014 will be their last year in the Allmans. Then Gregg says 2014 will be the last year for the Allmans. Then Butch Trucks says Gregg doesn't have the right to just end the Allmans. Then Gregg says at the end of 2014 the Allmans will replace Derek, but what about Warren?

Forget the fact that Butch missed his first gig ever in the Allmans during the Beacon run. Followed by Gregg missing two gigs in a row at the Beacon. Then the final four gigs are postponed. Then Butch says they'll play their final gig with Warren & Derek at Madison Square Gardens. Then Gregg says instead of MSG they'll play two more gigs at the Beacon to go along with the four postponed gigs, yet there are no dates.

Right now the Warren & Derek era of the Allman Brothers Band are only going to play full headlining gigs in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia. How can that be it?


I suppose the Allman Brothers Band also played in the state of Georgia this year for the Gregg Allman tribute concert All My Friends. Though I would guess that the majority of fans there that night if polled would not say that that would have been their last opportunity to see the Allmans in their home state.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 08:04 AM
A simple answer to the original question - NO
 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 08:19 AM
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[ First, Gregg Allman says Oteil Burbridge will be out of the Allman Brothers Band this year, yet he's not. Then Warren Haynes & Derek Trucks release statements that 2014 will be their last year in the Allmans. Then Gregg says 2014 will be the last year for the Allmans. Then Butch Trucks says Gregg doesn't have the right to just end the Allmans. Then Gregg says at the end of 2014 the Allmans will replace Derek, but what about Warren?

Forget the fact that Butch missed his first gig ever in the Allmans during the Beacon run. Followed by Gregg missing two gigs in a row at the Beacon. Then the final four gigs are postponed. Then Butch says they'll play their final gig with Warren & Derek at Madison Square Gardens. Then Gregg says instead of MSG they'll play two more gigs at the Beacon to go along with the four postponed gigs, yet there are no dates.

Right now the Warren & Derek era of the Allman Brothers Band are only going to play full headlining gigs in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia. How can that be it?


This would be too easy to blame on bad band management. But the band doesn't seem to want to be managed to any real meaningful degree. Cats must want to be herded for said herding to take place.

Following the announcements at the first of the year, I believe fans would have expected a published slate of shows and dates by now. Fans need time to plan travel, book hotels, buy tickets ...

2014 was announced as the final year of the Allman Brother's Band. Checking the calendar, the year is nearly half over. As much as I love this incredibly fine website, we'll have to find any official word on the band's intentions elsewhere. There has yet to be an announcement of Derek and Warren's statement that they were leaving at the end of the year on this, the official site of the band.

We were expecting and hoping for a blazing and explosive event at the finish line of the race. It is starting to seem like what we'll see instead is a vacant, rusted out tour bus up on concrete blocks stranded many miles away from victory lane.

Late May, 2014. No dates or plans for the swan song year of the greatest band in the world?

 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 10:15 AM
I think it's obvious at this point there will be no summer tour. I really thought they'd play some dates other than the three festivals they've announced, but it doesn't sound like that's in the cards. There's always been talk about a fall tour and they could certainly do that. The TTB has announced a couple of September shows and one date on Nov. 1. They would need to start getting the word out there pretty soon, and we still don't know when the Beacon dates will be. This year has been a real disappointment in ABB terms and at this point I think you just have to hope for the best without expecting much.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 10:47 AM
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[ First, Gregg Allman says Oteil Burbridge will be out of the Allman Brothers Band this year, yet he's not. Then Warren Haynes & Derek Trucks release statements that 2014 will be their last year in the Allmans. Then Gregg says 2014 will be the last year for the Allmans. Then Butch Trucks says Gregg doesn't have the right to just end the Allmans. Then Gregg says at the end of 2014 the Allmans will replace Derek, but what about Warren?

Forget the fact that Butch missed his first gig ever in the Allmans during the Beacon run. Followed by Gregg missing two gigs in a row at the Beacon. Then the final four gigs are postponed. Then Butch says they'll play their final gig with Warren & Derek at Madison Square Gardens. Then Gregg says instead of MSG they'll play two more gigs at the Beacon to go along with the four postponed gigs, yet there are no dates.

Right now the Warren & Derek era of the Allman Brothers Band are only going to play full headlining gigs in New York, Pennsylvania and Virginia. How can that be it?


This would be too easy to blame on bad band management. But the band doesn't seem to want to be managed to any real meaningful degree. Cats must want to be herded for said herding to take place.

Following the announcements at the first of the year, I believe fans would have expected a published slate of shows and dates by now. Fans need time to plan travel, book hotels, buy tickets ...

2014 was announced as the final year of the Allman Brother's Band. Checking the calendar, the year is nearly half over. As much as I love this incredibly fine website, we'll have to find any official word on the band's intentions elsewhere. There has yet to be an announcement of Derek and Warren's statement that they were leaving at the end of the year on this, the official site of the band.

We were expecting and hoping for a blazing and explosive event at the finish line of the race. It is starting to seem like what we'll see instead is a vacant, rusted out tour bus up on concrete blocks stranded many miles away from victory lane.

Late May, 2014. No dates or plans for the swan song year of the greatest band in the world?


I was really "hoping for a blazing and explosive event at the finish line" for the Allman Brothers Band in 2014. Was really excited at the possibility of a final gig at Madison Square Gardens in the fall. An MSG gig would have been accessible to a far larger group of fans who would love to attend their last gig with Warren and Derek. And they could have made it a big event with special guests if it did not sell out right away. Even though Gregg Allman said no to MSG at this time, I still hope it happens.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 03:23 PM
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I've got $100 that says those Beacon shows never happen.


I'm not taking that bet... unfortunately

I get that any big & old organization is going to be slow moving & resistant to change.

However, they talked up year 40 during years 38 & 39 and year 40 featured coast to coast tourdates and splendid shows. Well done. You warned us of some quiet years and warned us of the big year coming and oh baby did you deliver. Thanks boys.

So then they talk up year 45 during years 43 & 44

(in the press of the last 3 years for TTB, Derek talked about 2014 being a big touring year for the ABB similar to 2009. we know now that his departure was probably already communicated to those that needed to know, and that proper arrangements should have been made)

but it just seems like nothing was ready for the departures, and nothing was ready for this big & final touring year, despite what seems like plenty of notice.

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 05:02 PM
And the window gets a little narrower: Gov't Mule is going to play a festival in South Carolina on October 11 or 12.

 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 06:59 PM
Hey Marley...what festival?
 

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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 07:18 PM
I understand, and even share, the skepticism and pessimism that permeates this thread. However, if you are inclined to hope in the face of overwhelming odds, I will offer one dim beacon (pun intended) in the darkness.

It is entirely possible that the band would wait until after Mountain Jam to announce any summer tour dates in the NE. There could be a clause in their contract to that effect. A lot of the typical ABB tour stops in the Northeast are within a few hours of Hunter Mountain, and it would be relatively reasonable for a promoter to worry about losing attendance at Mountain Jam if people knew the band was playing Saratoga in July.

However, they won't have that excuse for much longer. Once Mountain Jam happens, if the Allmans don't announce summer tour dates in the next few days, there will almost certainly be no summer tour.

I do hold out hope for a Fall tour, preferably one involving the Fox, but in light of Gregg's health and the whole way this year has been handled so far, even that is starting to feel like unfounded optimism.

Frankly, the kind of "management" that allows this year to become such a trainwreck of missed opportunities and poor communication could be one reason Warren and Derek are leaving. If so, could you blame them?

 
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  posted on 5/21/2014 at 07:34 PM
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I understand, and even share, the skepticism and pessimism that permeates this thread. However, if you are inclined to hope in the face of overwhelming odds, I will offer one dim beacon (pun intended) in the darkness.

It is entirely possible that the band would wait until after Mountain Jam to announce any summer tour dates in the NE. There could be a clause in their contract to that effect. A lot of the typical ABB tour stops in the Northeast are within a few hours of Hunter Mountain, and it would be relatively reasonable for a promoter to worry about losing attendance at Mountain Jam if people knew the band was playing Saratoga in July.

However, they won't have that excuse for much longer. Once Mountain Jam happens, if the Allmans don't announce summer tour dates in the next few days, there will almost certainly be no summer tour.

I do hold out hope for a Fall tour, preferably one involving the Fox, but in light of Gregg's health and the whole way this year has been handled so far, even that is starting to feel like unfounded optimism.

Frankly, the kind of "management" that allows this year to become such a trainwreck of missed opportunities and poor communication could be one reason Warren and Derek are leaving. If so, could you blame them?


Good post.

Let me add briefly to this. In a few words "Reality seems to be kicking in". Hope I'm wrong & that the NY shows actually happen especially for those who purchased tickets. Also would hope to see a series of end of year shows, but with each passing day, that seems like wishful thinking.

The lack of communication is almost beyond belief. Add to that - the little bit of communication has been inconsistent and contradictory to say the least.

 

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  posted on 5/22/2014 at 04:43 AM
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A simple answer to the original question - NO


If that's the case and the Allman Brothers Band will not so anymore gigs in 2014, I'll have to look into going to the Peach Music Festival. It's the best bang for your dollar to see the Allmans twice.

 

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  posted on 5/22/2014 at 09:46 AM
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Hey Marley...what festival?



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  posted on 5/22/2014 at 10:07 AM
please come play New Orleans in October during Blues and BBQ....TTB did last year...and they played a great show to a sold out packed house.....

thanks.........;-)

 

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  posted on 5/22/2014 at 10:25 AM
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... I'll have to look into going to the Peach Music Festival. It's the best bang for your dollar to see the Allmans twice.


This is exactly why they haven't announced any further plans for Fall 2014. There's a chance to get your money at Peachfest or another festival. They know that some people wouldn't spend their $ at the festivals if they knew there were Fall shows. They'll get everyone's money at the few festivals they are playing, announce the Fall tour including the 4 (or 6) Beacon shows, and get more money out of the same loyal fan base that's been supporting them for 45 years.

Yes I'm cynical. I'm also one of the loyal fan base that will pay for whatever shows I can possibly get to before "The End".

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  posted on 5/22/2014 at 07:16 PM
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... I'll have to look into going to the Peach Music Festival. It's the best bang for your dollar to see the Allmans twice.


This is exactly why they haven't announced any further plans for Fall 2014. There's a chance to get your money at Peachfest or another festival. They know that some people wouldn't spend their $ at the festivals if they knew there were Fall shows. They'll get everyone's money at the few festivals they are playing, announce the Fall tour including the 4 (or 6) Beacon shows, and get more money out of the same loyal fan base that's been supporting them for 45 years.

Yes I'm cynical. I'm also one of the loyal fan base that will pay for whatever shows I can possibly get to before "The End".

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Right on. I'm doing Muuntain Jam and PeachFest. The chances of them doing the six shows mentioned by Gregg grow smaller and smaller (and I've got tickets for three, would try for any other dates announced). Do they actually think the Beacon is going to wait and not schedule other events?

 

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