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  posted on 3/21/2014 at 12:52 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/20/1285592/-Cartoon-Paul-Ryan-tours-t he-inner-city?detail=email

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  posted on 3/21/2014 at 02:09 PM
I'm embarrassed to admit this piece of crap d-bag is my congressman although I've never voted for him. It is rather amazing he was utterly invisible and completely unremarkable until 2008, the guy voted for 2 unfunded wars, unfunded Medicare part D and essentially never gave a 2 craps about the deficit or debt until a black guy got elected president. He received social security benefits when his father passed away and now that he's a millionaire a few times over since becoming a congressman he spends a whole lot of time trying to figure out how to screw other people out of theirs. His nickname around here among people who are paying attention is Lyin Ryan. I hope the Democrats or some independent comes out swinging at this ass face next election cycle.
 

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  posted on 3/22/2014 at 09:19 PM
Paul Ryan understands we are on an unsustainable path. Government is too large and intrusive. Something must be done about the waste and inefficiency of big government. Unfortunately, most politicians are beholden to special interest groups who benefit from big government. Both parties are responsible for the monumental mess we are in, but I will say the current crop of Democrats in Washington have virtually no fiscal discipline and no intention of cutting spending. I'm no fan of either party, but I do applaud the so called "Tea Party" for their push to control unsustainable spending.
 

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  posted on 3/23/2014 at 07:30 AM
The Tea Party is a fraud and a front for the John Birch Society whose only real purpose is more political and economic power for the Koch Brothers. There is nothing admirable about their agenda. They aren't interested in governing they are interested in power for themselves at the expense of everyone else. But I'm sure they are very happy people like Bluesboy fell for their bull ****
 

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  posted on 3/23/2014 at 08:24 AM
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The Tea Party is a fraud and a front for the John Birch Society whose only real purpose is more political and economic power for the Koch Brothers. There is nothing admirable about their agenda. They aren't interested in governing they are interested in power for themselves at the expense of everyone else. But I'm sure they are very happy people like Bluesboy fell for their bull ****
What a perfect description.... of virtually every Democrat and Republican. And the Koch derangement syndrome is just icing on the cake - or perhaps a transference, since Bush isn't around to kick any more.

Credit due though; at least you can identify the characteristics of our power-grabbing, Constitution-destroying politicians. Now to work on better target acquisition....

 

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  posted on 3/23/2014 at 09:00 AM
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The Tea Party is a fraud and a front for the John Birch Society whose only real purpose is more political and economic power for the Koch Brothers. There is nothing admirable about their agenda. They aren't interested in governing they are interested in power for themselves at the expense of everyone else. But I'm sure they are very happy people like Bluesboy fell for their bull ****


And the Tea Party HOR fronted by Senator Ted Cruz was very effective at shutting down the government. Hope Teddy runs for president...the ideal Tea Bagger candidate.

 

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  posted on 3/23/2014 at 09:59 PM
These poor areas are typically governed by Liberals, so this is forbidden territory for somebody like Ryan to wade into. The Left wants a monopoly on "helping the poor." Hence the attacks on Mr. Ryan.
 

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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 11:31 AM
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The Tea Party is a fraud and a front for the John Birch Society whose only real purpose is more political and economic power for the Koch Brothers. There is nothing admirable about their agenda. They aren't interested in governing they are interested in power for themselves at the expense of everyone else. But I'm sure they are very happy people like Bluesboy fell for their bull ****


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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 11:36 AM
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These poor areas are typically governed by Liberals, so this is forbidden territory for somebody like Ryan to wade into. The Left wants a monopoly on "helping the poor." Hence the attacks on Mr. Ryan.


The votes of the GOP don't exactly favor "helping the poor" at either the national or state level. Minimum wage - not. Health care - not. Etc., etc.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 12:20 PM
ryan is a piece of sh!t, and I believe his political career will be short lived.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 12:29 PM
When Teabaggers vote for these dick holes that the Koch Brothers bank role they are voting to screw themselves so the wealthiest 1% can have a better life.

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It seems safe to say that “Capital in the Twenty-First Century,” the magnum opus of the French economist Thomas Piketty, will be the most important economics book of the year — and maybe of the decade. Mr. Piketty, arguably the world’s leading expert on income and wealth inequality, does more than document the growing concentration of income in the hands of a small economic elite. He also makes a powerful case that we’re on the way back to “patrimonial capitalism,” in which the commanding heights of the economy are dominated not just by wealth, but also by inherited wealth, in which birth matters more than effort and talent.
To be sure, Mr. Piketty concedes that we aren’t there yet. So far, the rise of America’s 1 percent has mainly been driven by executive salaries and bonuses rather than income from investments, let alone inherited wealth. But six of the 10 wealthiest Americans are already heirs rather than self-made entrepreneurs, and the children of today’s economic elite start from a position of immense privilege. As Mr. Piketty notes, “the risk of a drift toward oligarchy is real and gives little reason for optimism.”
Indeed. And if you want to feel even less optimistic, consider what many U.S. politicians are up to. America’s nascent oligarchy may not yet be fully formed — but one of our two main political parties already seems committed to defending the oligarchy’s interests.
Despite the frantic efforts of some Republicans to pretend otherwise, most people realize that today’s G.O.P. favors the interests of the rich over those of ordinary families. I suspect, however, that fewer people realize the extent to which the party favors returns on wealth over wages and salaries. And the dominance of income from capital, which can be inherited, over wages — the dominance of wealth over work — is what patrimonial capitalism is all about.
To see what I’m talking about, start with actual policies and policy proposals. It’s generally understood that George W. Bush did all he could to cut taxes on the very affluent, that the middle-class cuts he included were essentially political loss leaders. It’s less well understood that the biggest breaks went not to people paid high salaries but to coupon-clippers and heirs to large estates. True, the top tax bracket on earned income fell from 39.6 to 35 percent. But the top rate on dividends fell from 39.6 percent (because they were taxed as ordinary income) to 15 percent — and the estate tax was completely eliminated.
Some of these cuts were reversed under President Obama, but the point is that the great tax-cut push of the Bush years was mainly about reducing taxes on unearned income. And when Republicans retook one house of Congress, they promptly came up with a plan — Representative Paul Ryan’s “road map” — calling for the elimination of taxes on interest, dividends, capital gains and estates. Under this plan, someone living solely off inherited wealth would have owed no federal taxes at all.
This tilt of policy toward the interests of wealth has been mirrored by a tilt in rhetoric; Republicans often seem so intent on exalting “job creators” that they forget to mention American workers. In 2012 Representative Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, famously commemorated Labor Day with a Twitter post honoring business owners. More recently, Mr. Cantor reportedly reminded colleagues at a G.O.P. retreat that most Americans work for other people, which is at least one reason attempts to make a big issue out of Mr. Obama’s supposed denigration of businesspeople fell flat. (Another reason was that Mr. Obama did no such thing.)
In fact, not only don’t most Americans own businesses, but business income, and income from capital in general, is increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few people. In 1979 the top 1 percent of households accounted for 17 percent of business income; by 2007 the same group was getting 43 percent of business income, and 75 percent of capital gains. Yet this small elite gets all of the G.O.P.’s love, and most of its policy attention.
Why is this happening? Well, bear in mind that both Koch brothers are numbered among the 10 wealthiest Americans, and so are four Walmart heirs. Great wealth buys great political influence — and not just through campaign contributions. Many conservatives live inside an intellectual bubble of think tanks and captive media that is ultimately financed by a handful of megadonors. Not surprisingly, those inside the bubble tend to assume, instinctively, that what is good for oligarchs is good for America.
As I’ve already suggested, the results can sometimes seem comical. The important point to remember, however, is that the people inside the bubble have a lot of power, which they wield on behalf of their patrons. And the drift toward oligarchy continues.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 04:33 PM
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The Tea Party is a fraud and a front for the John Birch Society whose only real purpose is more political and economic power for the Koch Brothers. There is nothing admirable about their agenda. They aren't interested in governing they are interested in power for themselves at the expense of everyone else. But I'm sure they are very happy people like Bluesboy fell for their bull ****
What a perfect description.... of virtually every Democrat and Republican. And the Koch derangement syndrome is just icing on the cake - or perhaps a transference, since Bush isn't around to kick any more.

Credit due though; at least you can identify the characteristics of our power-grabbing, Constitution-destroying politicians. Now to work on better target acquisition....
koch brothers derangement syndrome???, oh what a wonderful world it would be without unions, workers rights, a fair living wage, osha, breathable air, clean oceans, affordable health care, background checks, a real fu#cking utopia. you are nuttier than a pile of squirrel sh!t.

[Edited on 3/24/2014 by pops42]

 

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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 07:11 PM
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These poor areas are typically governed by Liberals, so this is forbidden territory for somebody like Ryan to wade into. The Left wants a monopoly on "helping the poor." Hence the attacks on Mr. Ryan.


The votes of the GOP don't exactly favor "helping the poor" at either the national or state level. Minimum wage - not. Health care - not. Etc., etc.


Perhaps they better understand the laws of economics and realize that raising the barriers to job creation doesn't help the poor.

 

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These poor areas are typically governed by Liberals, so this is forbidden territory for somebody like Ryan to wade into. The Left wants a monopoly on "helping the poor." Hence the attacks on Mr. Ryan.


The votes of the GOP don't exactly favor "helping the poor" at either the national or state level. Minimum wage - not. Health care - not. Etc., etc.


Perhaps they better understand the laws of economics and realize that raising the barriers to job creation doesn't help the poor.


That's laughable. The GOP lacks compassion for the less fortunate - nothing new there.

Possibly one day conservatives & the GOP will realize that trickle down economics does not work as an economic expansion tool. But it won't stop them from trying to cycle back through.

 

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Possibly one day conservatives & the GOP will realize that trickle down economics does not work as an economic expansion tool. But it won't stop them from trying to cycle back through.


It's working as we speak, just as it works 24/7/365. Every time someone purchases a product or shows up for work trickle down economics is working.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 08:17 PM
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[That's laughable. The GOP lacks compassion for the less fortunate - nothing new there.



Depends on your definition of compassion. The only true compassion is what one individual does on his own to help another. The government is not compassionate, forcibly taking money from one person to give to another. Imploring the government or a political party of your choice to help poor people for you is not compassion.

 

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  posted on 3/24/2014 at 08:47 PM
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Possibly one day conservatives & the GOP will realize that trickle down economics does not work as an economic expansion tool. But it won't stop them from trying to cycle back through.


It's working as we speak, just as it works 24/7/365. Every time someone purchases a product or shows up for work trickle down economics is working.


If that was true the economy would be booming now. The richest have never been better off and taxes are almost as low as they've ever been. So, how long are we suppose to wait for the trickle?

 

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Depends on your definition of compassion. The only true compassion is what one individual does on his own to help another. The government is not compassionate, forcibly taking money from one person to give to another. Imploring the government or a political party of your choice to help poor people for you is not compassion.


So when gov't subsidizes big oil companies we wouldn't classify that as compassion. That's just good business for companies making record profits. But helping poor people have food on the table or heat in their house should be left to fellow man & not a function of gov't?

 

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Possibly one day conservatives & the GOP will realize that trickle down economics does not work as an economic expansion tool. But it won't stop them from trying to cycle back through.


It's working as we speak, just as it works 24/7/365. Every time someone purchases a product or shows up for work trickle down economics is working.


If that was true the economy would be booming now. The richest have never been better off and taxes are almost as low as they've ever been. So, how long are we suppose to wait for the trickle?


The government is raking in more tax revenue than ever before, record revenues. Recipe for a booming economy, right?

 

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Possibly one day conservatives & the GOP will realize that trickle down economics does not work as an economic expansion tool. But it won't stop them from trying to cycle back through.


It's working as we speak, just as it works 24/7/365. Every time someone purchases a product or shows up for work trickle down economics is working.


If that was true the economy would be booming now. The richest have never been better off and taxes are almost as low as they've ever been. So, how long are we suppose to wait for the trickle?


The government is raking in more tax revenue than ever before, record revenues. Recipe for a booming economy, right?


As a percent of GNP, the government revenue is below average since WW2. Using the raw income is misleading due to increase in population and inflation. I suspect you already know this but continue to use that misleading statistic anyway.

 

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Possibly one day conservatives & the GOP will realize that trickle down economics does not work as an economic expansion tool. But it won't stop them from trying to cycle back through.


It's working as we speak, just as it works 24/7/365. Every time someone purchases a product or shows up for work trickle down economics is working.


If that was true the economy would be booming now. The richest have never been better off and taxes are almost as low as they've ever been. So, how long are we suppose to wait for the trickle?


The government is raking in more tax revenue than ever before, record revenues. Recipe for a booming economy, right?


Someone has to pay for Bushes 2 unfunded wars and Medicare part D and subsidize all the corporations who don't pay taxes.

[Edited on 3/25/2014 by Peachypetewi]

 

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[That's laughable. The GOP lacks compassion for the less fortunate - nothing new there.



Depends on your definition of compassion. The only true compassion is what one individual does on his own to help another. The government is not compassionate, forcibly taking money from one person to give to another. Imploring the government or a political party of your choice to help poor people for you is not compassion.

If you accept that corporations are "people", then you have to also accept that gov't is as well. And so it would follow that if people are compassionate, then corporations and gov't both have the capacity for compassion as well.

 

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Possibly one day conservatives & the GOP will realize that trickle down economics does not work as an economic expansion tool. But it won't stop them from trying to cycle back through.


It's working as we speak, just as it works 24/7/365. Every time someone purchases a product or shows up for work trickle down economics is working.


If that was true the economy would be booming now. The richest have never been better off and taxes are almost as low as they've ever been. So, how long are we suppose to wait for the trickle?


The government is raking in more tax revenue than ever before, record revenues. Recipe for a booming economy, right?


Someone has to pay for Bushes 2 unfunded wars and Medicare part D and subsidize all the corporations who don't pay taxes.

[Edited on 3/25/2014 by Peachypetewi]


The Democrats had the votes to stop Bush. Why didn't they stop him?


 

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  posted on 3/25/2014 at 03:07 PM
A whole heck of a lot of strawman arguments against those who would like to reign in the size of Federal government.

If you are against the "increase" in federal government spending and growing debt we are leaving for our kids....not even really for cutting spending, just the rate of increase...EVEN though it has drastically grown over the last 7-8 years....you are heartless and trying have yours at the expense of everyone else.

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A whole heck of a lot of strawman arguments against those who would like to reign in the size of Federal government.

If you are against the "increase" in federal government spending and growing debt we are leaving for our kids....not even really for cutting spending, just the rate of increase...EVEN though it has drastically grown over the last 7-8 years....you are heartless and trying have yours at the expense of everyone else.

Oyyyy.


What do you mean 7-8 years? Government spending exploded in 1980 when Reagan took office, and with the exception of the Clinton years, government spending and the debt has increased pretty much every year, as you would expect due to inflation. But, if you look at the charts, government spending in the last few years is down:

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/recent_spending

 
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