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  posted on 10/6/2013 at 07:18 PM
Petty, vindictive, spiteful, angry? Choose your adjective. As a result of the government "slimdown," they won't even allow folks pull off to the side of the road to view the monuments from a distance.

Pathetic.
http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131005/NEWS/310050021/Mount-Rushmore-b lockage-stirs-anger-S-D-


 
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  posted on 10/6/2013 at 08:40 PM
Lots of the same happening around my house. My dogs and I hike the civil war battlefields that make up the Fredericksburg Spotsylvania National Park nearly everyday. These days we are met by signs, cones and orange tape blocking the roads and all parking.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 10:23 AM
Don't forget the WW11 Memorial,which is privately maintained and was built by private funds as well.
Obama orders a chain link fence to be put around it.And after 90 plus yr old vets arrive to see it & try to enter,he then orders armed guards as well.
And how about the military chaplins that agreed to work for free during the shutdown,have been told they will be punished and arrested if they perform baptisims,hold masses etc.
Are some of ya'll friggin mentally challenged or just just plain effin stupid?I think from the defending Obama on every move,it's some of both.
So go duck and hide your little toy brains from this forum on opposition to whats unfolding before your eyes,in fear of the nsa etc.Times comin real soon when the folks you once labeled as crack pot conspiracy freaks are going to be deemed as the truth speakers.
DEMONS are both in the spirit and physical form on this planet.And if you'd cleanse your spirit,,,the scales might just be removed from your eyes and hearts as to where ya could see what is right in front of you.

Free health care for all.LMFAO! AS to the number of ya'll that bought (& still are) this sh*t hook,line and sinker.Do ya really think this is what all this is about? Sad part is ,,to a lotta ya'll it is.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 11:43 AM
It sucks; but these guys are trying to show how important their jobs are. Split with your girlfriend and expect to see her at a party with a good looking guy on her arm
 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 11:45 AM
You can thank boener and the tea bagger a$$holes for this. if you voted for them, you get what you deserve, dummys.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 12:23 PM
Take a cue from Clark Griswold. Grow a pair & then move some cones!

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 12:44 PM
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You can thank boener and the tea bagger a$$holes for this. if you voted for them, you get what you deserve, dummys.


I think this is a bi-partisan display of douchebagedness. neither part is without blame. Democrats claim that stuff is being "tagged along" onto other bills. That is standard business

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 03:20 PM

Smokey the Bear can't even sh*t in the woods now !

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 04:53 PM
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Smokey the Bear can't even sh*t in the woods now !


That's good!

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 05:08 PM
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I think this is a bi-partisan display of douchebagedness. neither part is without blame. Democrats claim that stuff is being "tagged along" onto other bills. That is standard business


I won't be voting for any incumbent. However, the government shut down blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the Republicans. If Boehner introduced a clean Continuing Resolution right now it would pass. Democracy would rule in favor of the people and against the shut down because many Republicans do not want to be personally tied to people losing jobs.

Soon, the numbers about how much this shutdown costs will be released. Then the Republicans will have a hard time selling their "lower the debt" mantra. This shutdown will cost billions.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 07:59 PM
As would be expected, people are tripping over themselves trying to blame the tea party or whatever for this. Wouldn't expect anything less..

However, they apparently don't understand what the thread is about. The tea party and Republicans had nothing to do with the decision to block off areas where folks would normally pull over to take it all in and maybe snap a few pictures. A totally unnecessary move, a decision that lies with an administration acting like a bunch of babies.


 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 08:56 PM
hmmmmm....shutdown.... I wonder what that means...........

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 10:04 PM
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However, they apparently don't understand what the thread is about. The tea party and Republicans had nothing to do with the decision to block off areas where folks would normally pull over to take it all in and maybe snap a few pictures. A totally unnecessary move, a decision that lies with an administration acting like a bunch of babies.


As the Park Ranger told me, "No hiking, no biking, no skating, no recreating." All the parking areas associated with the National Parks are closed. It is illegal to park along the roadside in the National Parks. I don't think the "administration" (I guess you mean the government) are acting like a "bunch of babies". I think it far more likely they are acting like adults charged with protecting vast areas of the country while ensuring the safety of American Citizens. If someone were to get hurt, have a heart attack, get attacked by a bear... there are no available resources to take care of them.

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 10:22 PM
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As would be expected, people are tripping over themselves trying to blame the tea party or whatever for this. Wouldn't expect anything less.


Pot/kettle

 

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However, they apparently don't understand what the thread is about. The tea party and Republicans had nothing to do with the decision to block off areas where folks would normally pull over to take it all in and maybe snap a few pictures. A totally unnecessary move, a decision that lies with an administration acting like a bunch of babies.


As the Park Ranger told me, "No hiking, no biking, no skating, no recreating." All the parking areas associated with the National Parks are closed. It is illegal to park along the roadside in the National Parks. I don't think the "administration" (I guess you mean the government) are acting like a "bunch of babies". I think it far more likely they are acting like adults charged with protecting vast areas of the country while ensuring the safety of American Citizens. If someone were to get hurt, have a heart attack, get attacked by a bear... there are no available resources to take care of them.

It amazes me that people have such a hard time understanding such a simple concept. Anything to point fingers (while acting all sanctimonious and accusing others of pointing fingers)

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 10:49 PM
Never let a crisis (or barricades) go to waste!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/list-obama-closures-for- shutdown

 

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  posted on 10/7/2013 at 11:33 PM
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You can thank boener and the tea bagger a$$holes for this. if you voted for them, you get what you deserve, dummys.


I think this is a bi-partisan display of douchebagedness. neither part is without blame. Democrats claim that stuff is being "tagged along" onto other bills. That is standard business


The Dems sudden insistence and fondness for "clean" bills is almost laughable. Where's that been?

 

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  posted on 10/8/2013 at 12:22 AM
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I think it far more likely they are acting like adults charged with protecting vast areas of the country while ensuring the safety of American Citizens. If someone were to get hurt, have a heart attack, get attacked by a bear... there are no available resources to take care of them.


Your right, the same adults that were concerned about safety at Benghazi.

That's got to be it. It's all about safety.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2013 at 12:28 AM
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Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game


By Gary Langer
Oct 7, 2013 3:00pm

The Republicans in Congress have lost ground against Barack Obama in blame over the government shutdown, with Americans expressing increasing criticism of both parties in Washington, while the president’s avoided that rise in public ire.

Seventy percent in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll disapprove of how the Republicans in Congress are handling the budget negotiations, up 7 percentage points from a week ago. Far fewer, 51 percent, disapprove of Obama’s approach, essentially unchanged in the past week.

See PDF with full results, charts and tables here.
The Democrats in Congress remain between the two: Sixty-one percent disapprove of their handling of the budget breakdown, up 5 points in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates.

In another way to look at the results, Obama’s gone from 41-50 percent approve-disapprove last week to 45-51 percent now – a 9-point negative margin then, a similar 6-point negative margin today. The Democrats likewise show little change overall (from a 22- to a 26-point negative gap). But the Republicans have gone from 26-63 percent approve-disapprove to 24-70 percent, an initial 37-point difference widening now to a 46-point negative result.

Most of the changes for both parties come from previously undecided Americans coming to a negative opinion of their work. But a challenge for the Republicans in particular is that their disapproval ratings for handling the situation have increased numerically across the partisan board, among Republicans (+7 points), independents (+5) and Democrats (+9) alike.

The Democrats, by contrast, receive an additional 9 points of disapproval among Republicans compared with last week, but with essentially no change among independents or Democrats.

On Obama, political crosscurrents in effect cancel each other out.

IDEOLOGY – Ideology, as well as partisanship, indicate difficulties for the GOP. Even among conservatives, 59 percent disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling the situation, including nearly half of “very” conservatives (47 percent), rising to 68 percent of “somewhat” conservatives. Nearly three-quarters of moderates disapprove as well.

Obama does far better among moderates – 30 points better than the Republicans in approval for his handling of the situation. And he remains far stronger among liberals than the Republicans are among either conservatives overall or the “very” conservatives in their party’s base.

The Republicans also have lost ground at either end of the economic scale, moving from two-thirds disapproval a week ago to about three-quarters now both among Americans with household incomes less than $50,000 a year and among those with incomes more than $100,000.
Obama and the GOP do equally poorly among middle and upper-middle-income adults. But the Republicans are at three-quarters disapproval among women, have experienced a rise in disapproval the past week among young adults, and now are higher in disapproval compared with Obama even among whites, usually a much stronger group for the GOP.

Overall, views now look very much like those after the government shutdowns in 1995-96. In ABC/Post polling in January 1996, Bill Clinton had a 42-50 percent score for handling the situation, the Republicans in Congress 20-74 percent.

Neither seemed to much impact the 1996 election 10 months later, in which Clinton won re-election but the Republicans held the House and Senate alike. The question now is whether the Republicans’ current disadvantage has any long-term effects – a question that may be answered, at least in part, by the length of the shutdown and the extent of the damage it causes.

METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cell phone Oct. 2-6, 2013, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,005 adults. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points. The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by SSRS/Social Science Research Solutions of Media, Pa.



We shall see who the American People blame come next election. Maybe Americans are fine with broken government.

 

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Your right, the same adults that were concerned about safety at Benghazi.

That's got to be it. It's all about safety.


Wow.

 

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  posted on 10/8/2013 at 09:11 AM
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As would be expected, people are tripping over themselves trying to blame the tea party or whatever for this. Wouldn't expect anything less..



Here's a thought.

The Tea Party, and by extension, the Republican Party, picked one issue on which they had already lost two Presidential elections, two Senate elections and a Supreme Court decision, and threw a huge temper tantrum because they aren't getting their way. The tantrum continues.

Now they are putting themselves in a position where not defaulting on America's obligations and causing a global economic calamity is a negotiating concession. Most impressive! Now that's some governin'!

Instead of whining about this or any other issue in which the Party of Personal Responsibility refuses to take responsibility for their OWN actions, how about the Tea Party and Republicans and everyone under your big tent there try this radical notion: Put together your ideas and plans and policies in a clear and concise way, explain them to the people, go out and win elections, get back to DC and write new laws if you are so against laws already in place.

Just a thought.

 

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As would be expected, people are tripping over themselves trying to blame the tea party or whatever for this. Wouldn't expect anything less..



Here's a thought.

The Tea Party, and by extension, the Republican Party, picked one issue on which they had already lost two Presidential elections, two Senate elections and a Supreme Court decision, and threw a huge temper tantrum because they aren't getting their way. The tantrum continues.

Now they are putting themselves in a position where not defaulting on America's obligations and causing a global economic calamity is a negotiating concession. Most impressive! Now that's some governin'!

Instead of whining about this or any other issue in which the Party of Personal Responsibility refuses to take responsibility for their OWN actions, how about the Tea Party and Republicans and everyone under your big tent there try this radical notion: Put together your ideas and plans and policies in a clear and concise way, explain them to the people, go out and win elections, get back to DC and write new laws if you are so against laws already in place.

Just a thought.


What does any of this have to do with the thread topic?

 

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What does any of this have to do with the thread topic?


And again... Wow.

 

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What does any of this have to do with the thread topic?


And again... Wow.


Sorry to disappoint you, but as far as what gets closed or barricaded in the event of a slimdown - the tea party is pretty much out of the loop on that decision.







[Edited on 10/8/2013 by alloak41]

 

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  posted on 10/8/2013 at 10:38 AM
Well, except for being responsible for shutting down the government....... again, what does that mean to you? They are helping prove the point of what the government actually does for people..................

 

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