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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 10:03 AM
Feel free to itemize, but please be SPECIFIC. And I am genuinely interested in his appeal to some voters so please refrain from "He's not Obama" type answers.
 
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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 10:05 AM
I've asked this question of many of my friends and relatives here in the Great State of Texas. When you get down to it, the standard answer is that he is not Obama.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 10:12 AM
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I've asked this question of many of my friends and relatives here in the Great State of Texas. When you get down to it, the standard answer is that he is not Obama.


Well, I guess I would like to think that implicit in that is a contrast of values that can be pinpointed as favorable to some. It seems to me that if you can't flesh out and policy distinction based in Romney's own words, then this becomes an issue with Obama's personality or style, etc.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 10:24 AM
my vote for Romney will be anti-entitlement.
 

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For as many entitlements that he's received?

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 11:27 AM
He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 11:40 AM
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He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

Rich, you seem like an intellegent guy. I'm surprised you haven't come around to supporting the Libertarian candidate like the rest of us intellegent guys. Yeah, I know Johnson can't win, but since you lose either way with the major parties why not make a statement?

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 11:51 AM
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whose class warfare is destructive and divisive


Um, given the last 24 hours...

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 11:54 AM
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He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

Rich, you seem like an intellegent guy. I'm surprised you haven't come around to supporting the Libertarian candidate like the rest of us intellegent guys. Yeah, I know Johnson can't win, but since you lose either way with the major parties why not make a statement?


I agree, Bob. I voted independent for years b/c no candidate was really progressive enough I like Obama, so don't mind voting for a Democrat in this case. If Harry Reid were running, I'd likely be looking for a 3rd party candidate. In 2000, there were a whole bunch of them. I also have some libertarian leanings by the way, just think when it comes to business and the lack of regulation, that spawns large social problems.

 

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Um, given the last 24 hours...



 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 11:57 AM
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He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

Rich, you seem like an intellegent guy. I'm surprised you haven't come around to supporting the Libertarian candidate like the rest of us intellegent guys. Yeah, I know Johnson can't win, but since you lose either way with the major parties why not make a statement?


Maybe he feels that getting rid of Obama is making a statement and doesn't want to throw his vote away.

Van, my answer to the question is that he's not Obama. Sorry.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 11:58 AM
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He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

Rich, you seem like an intellegent guy. I'm surprised you haven't come around to supporting the Libertarian candidate like the rest of us intellegent guys. Yeah, I know Johnson can't win, but since you lose either way with the major parties why not make a statement?

I like Gary. A lot.

But my liking of him doesn't outweigh my concerns if Obama remains President. If that weren't the case, I'd happily vote for him.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 12:01 PM
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He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

Rich, you seem like an intellegent guy. I'm surprised you haven't come around to supporting the Libertarian candidate like the rest of us intellegent guys. Yeah, I know Johnson can't win, but since you lose either way with the major parties why not make a statement?

I like Gary. A lot.

But my liking of him doesn't outweigh my concerns if Obama remains President. If that weren't the case, I'd happily vote for him.


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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 12:02 PM
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whose class warfare is destructive and divisive

Um, given the last 24 hours...

I hear you Hawk. But one comment, no matter how amplified by the Obama supplicants in the press, compares to the majority of the President's campaign being built on that principle.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 12:06 PM
Initially I liked Mitt Romneys organizational and business experience and success. His handling of the Olympics demonstrated that the guy does not let an operational budget balloon out of control. He seemed like a decent family guy.

i started to cool down after he refused to relase more than 2 years worth of tax returns, nominated an extremist in Paul Ryan, and offered no specifics as of yet on what he would do to help balance the budget. He stood by and said little as the wing nuts of his party ran wild with extreme prolife bills and absurd biological theories. He didnt have a successful overseas mission and talks as if we need to re-enter a cold war with Russia. He plays rhetorical games when discussing Obamacare so no one knows what the guy will do in office.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 12:30 PM
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whose class warfare is destructive and divisive

Um, given the last 24 hours...

I hear you Hawk. But one comment, no matter how amplified by the Obama supplicants in the press, compares to the majority of the President's campaign being built on that principle.


Obama supplicants?

ROMNEY SAID IT.

"The media's fault!"

You are so better than this...

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 12:43 PM
But, in the end, our arguing is ultimately worthless. People gonna vote for who they gonna vote for, no matter what.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 12:50 PM
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He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

Rich, you seem like an intellegent guy. I'm surprised you haven't come around to supporting the Libertarian candidate like the rest of us intellegent guys. Yeah, I know Johnson can't win, but since you lose either way with the major parties why not make a statement?

I like Gary. A lot.

But my liking of him doesn't outweigh my concerns if Obama remains President. If that weren't the case, I'd happily vote for him.


I like Gary as well.....But my liking him doesn't outweigh my fear of a Romney presidency. I wish Gary would be included in the debates but the media seems to be ignoring him altogether despite being on the ballot in what, 48 states at present?

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 01:01 PM
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whose class warfare is destructive and divisive

Um, given the last 24 hours...

I hear you Hawk. But one comment, no matter how amplified by the Obama supplicants in the press, compares to the majority of the President's campaign being built on that principle.


Obama supplicants?

ROMNEY SAID IT.

"The media's fault!"

You are so better than this...

And it's untrue exactly how? Is not the statistic correct? Almost half the country doesn't pay any Federal income taxes. And almost as many have become dependent on some type of assistance. How is America going to improve by saying everything's ok about this group?

Meanwhile, President Downgrade's agenda includes glorifying govt involvement in everyone's lives with cartoon examples of the Life of Julia. So in what we were once proud to call "the land of the free and the home of the brave", or "the land of opportunity", we are now proud to be lead by a guy whose agenda is to make more and more dependent on political control? Rather sad, how low we've sunk.

Sadder still that a candidate can't utter honest comments about these conditions without ridicule.

Here's the reality: the conditions for that lower half are not going to improve one iota unless things also improve for the folks above them. It's economically impossible, no matter what kind of "fairness" the President thinks he can impose. How pathetic that we have a President pandering for their votes based on promises that he knows are impossible, by pitting them against the very people whose resources, ideas, and drive could help them the most. And his cronies in most of the press go right along with it all.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 01:02 PM
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He's not Obama.

Sorry. I know you wanted more. I don't have much more. I haven't been able to vote for a candidate I really liked since 1984. Absent that, I've been basing my vote on who's the least worst and generally fits with conservative economic goals. The results have been generally poor, but they would have been that way regardless, given the two candidates in any of those races.

And before someone looks at that period and hails Clinton, lets not forget; Clinton thoroughly sucked until the D's were swept out of 40 years of Congressional power in '94. His first two years were filled with missteps and errors. To his credit, when he saw that he'd accomplish nothing unless he came to the center, he did. That move ended up defining his Presidency, as conservative principles became a major element of his policy agenda.

That's a far cry from the current turd, whose centrally-controlled economic ideals are a fiasco, whose foreign policy is unintelligible, whose budgetary restraint is non-existent, whose class warfare is destructive and divisive, and whose political agenda is inflexible. Time for someone else at the helm.

Rich, you seem like an intellegent guy. I'm surprised you haven't come around to supporting the Libertarian candidate like the rest of us intellegent guys. Yeah, I know Johnson can't win, but since you lose either way with the major parties why not make a statement?

I like Gary. A lot.

But my liking of him doesn't outweigh my concerns if Obama remains President. If that weren't the case, I'd happily vote for him.


I like Gary as well.....But my liking him doesn't outweigh my fear of a Romney presidency. I wish Gary would be included in the debates but the media seems to be ignoring him altogether despite being on the ballot in what, 48 states at present?


This is the largest issue going unaddressed for me. 3rd party access to the political arena and campaign finance reform. I believe Obama (and likely republicans too as demonstrated by McCain) do want reform in these areas, but nobody wants to blink first and give ground to the other side. it may be naive, but as grassroots organizer i do think Obama would have taken more steps here had the Supreme Court decision in his 1st year not dealt such a blow to reform.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 01:09 PM
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And it's untrue exactly how? Is not the statistic correct? Almost half the country doesn't pay any Federal income taxes. And almost as many have become dependent on some type of assistance. How is America going to improve by saying everything's ok about this group?


WHAT group? The group that doesn't pay income taxes, but pays payroll taxes, local taxes and sales taxes? Dependent on some type of assistance...like what? Medicare? Social Security? The Mortgage Interest Deduction? Child Tax Credits?

WHO are these people? What demographic? WHERE do they live? The people who pay the least in taxes are in the Deep South, the Republican stronghold. Is Romney holding all of THOSE folks in contempt?

What's Romney's tax rate? How much "assistance" does HE receive in the form of tax breaks and loopholes to take that money and sent it to the Caymans and Switzerland?

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 01:11 PM
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And it's untrue exactly how? Is not the statistic correct? Almost half the country doesn't pay any Federal income taxes. And almost as many have become dependent on some type of assistance. How is America going to improve by saying everything's ok about this group?

Meanwhile, President Downgrade's agenda includes glorifying govt involvement in everyone's lives with cartoon examples of the Life of Julia. So in what we were once proud to call "the land of the free and the home of the brave", or "the land of opportunity", we are now proud to be lead by a guy whose agenda is to make more and more dependent on political control? Rather sad, how low we've sunk.

Sadder still that a candidate can't utter honest comments about these conditions without ridicule.

Here's the reality: the conditions for that lower half are not going to improve one iota unless things also improve for the folks above them. It's economically impossible, no matter what kind of "fairness" the President thinks he can impose. How pathetic that we have a President pandering for their votes based on promises that he knows are impossible, by pitting them against the very people whose resources, ideas, and drive could help them the most. And his cronies in most of the press go right along with it all.


Home Run. Touch em all.

I'm glad Romney said it, it needed saying, and it was no "gaffe."

 

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whose class warfare is destructive and divisive

Um, given the last 24 hours...

I hear you Hawk. But one comment, no matter how amplified by the Obama supplicants in the press, compares to the majority of the President's campaign being built on that principle.


Obama supplicants?

ROMNEY SAID IT.

"The media's fault!"

You are so better than this...

And it's untrue exactly how? Is not the statistic correct? Almost half the country doesn't pay any Federal income taxes. And almost as many have become dependent on some type of assistance. How is America going to improve by saying everything's ok about this group?

Meanwhile, President Downgrade's agenda includes glorifying govt involvement in everyone's lives with cartoon examples of the Life of Julia. So in what we were once proud to call "the land of the free and the home of the brave", or "the land of opportunity", we are now proud to be lead by a guy whose agenda is to make more and more dependent on political control? Rather sad, how low we've sunk.

Sadder still that a candidate can't utter honest comments about these conditions without ridicule.

Here's the reality: the conditions for that lower half are not going to improve one iota unless things also improve for the folks above them. It's economically impossible, no matter what kind of "fairness" the President thinks he can impose. How pathetic that we have a President pandering for their votes based on promises that he knows are impossible, by pitting them against the very people whose resources, ideas, and drive could help them the most. And his cronies in most of the press go right along with it all.


Rich, you are on fire. As usual........

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 01:19 PM
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Home Run. Touch em all.

I'm glad Romney said it, it needed saying, and it was no "gaffe."


Lets see how he handles the press wanting clarification of his comments and whether he will own the issue or run from it.

My prediction- he will waffle and back-peddle so much it will be comical.

 

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  posted on 9/18/2012 at 01:42 PM
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Home Run. Touch em all.

I'm glad Romney said it, it needed saying, and it was no "gaffe."


Lets see how he handles the press wanting clarification of his comments and whether he will own the issue or run from it.

My prediction- he will waffle and back-peddle so much it will be comical.




Just Romney's lack of demographic knowledge and a basic understanding of the different socio-economic levels in the various states in the US is going to kill him. None of these comments can be defended and there are marching orders from the conservatives for all soldiers to go out and defend them. Even Fuji is out. I doubt if anyone defending Romeny here has a clue what is going on in Mississippi? What about LA? It's an incredibly stupid position to take.


 
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