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  posted on 7/6/2014 at 01:22 PM
I said the U.S.

The Russians do not have or practice our level technology.

 

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Dude... GE designed the Fukishima plant. It is exactly the same technology used in most of the Nuclear Power Plants now operating in the US.

Radiation effects the entire planet. It doesn't matter where the accidents happen.

Have you forgotten about Three Mile Island? How did our technology work out there?

Do you know the tax payers financed that plant? Do you also know it was the American tax payer who paid to clean up the accident?

Not very Republican of you to be supporting welfare.

Oh, I forgot, you guys love you some corporate welfare.

And speaking of tax payers subsidizing nuclear energy - what is your solution for the waste problem?

 

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None of this changes the fact that Obama is the worst President since WWII.


Obviously this is a subjective topic, no matter how you slice and dice it. A poll does not prove truth.

Hypothetically, even if he is the worst President since WWII, it would be due to his inability to get his ideas and projects approved and completed. Aside from Obamacare, just about everything he wanted to do was blocked by Republicans - and this is where some valid criticisms come into play. He has been too inactive and too polarizing. Ideal Presidents appeal to both sides of the aisle and get sh*t done, and he was never able to do that. Despite my belief that the polarization is an unfair byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs that he is an African Muslim socialist secretly infiltrating our government to Islamatize the U.S. and redistribute white wealth to his own kin folk, any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable, but because our nation sadly isn't evolved enough.



 

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  posted on 7/6/2014 at 05:59 PM
This is not a poll, just food for thought. It's just a few reminders about Dubya.


50 Reasons You Despised George W. Bush's Presidency: A Reminder on the Day of His Presidential Library Dedication
He's one of the worst presidents ever.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/50-reasons-you-despised-george-w- bushs-presidency-reminder-day-his-presidential

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None of this changes the fact that Obama is the worst President since WWII.


Obviously this is a subjective topic, no matter how you slice and dice it. A poll does not prove truth.

Hypothetically, even if he is the worst President since WWII, it would be due to his inability to get his ideas and projects approved and completed. Aside from Obamacare, just about everything he wanted to do was blocked by Republicans - and this is where some valid criticisms come into play. He has been too inactive and too polarizing. Ideal Presidents appeal to both sides of the aisle and get sh*t done, and he was never able to do that. Despite my belief that the polarization is an unfair byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs that he is an African Muslim socialist secretly infiltrating our government to Islamatize the U.S. and redistribute white wealth to his own kin folk, any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable,





Totally agree with you on the subjectivity concept.

Am a bit unsure of your larger paragraph. If I read it correctly, the implication is that society is just not ready for him & his views. I can't buy the polarization yet not his fault concept. He was elected in a national election by the American voters & in spite of a spiteful GOP HOR never accepting his legitimacy. Therefore they punish his agenda and do practically nothing to take care of the peoples' business. This is sad given your closing line "any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable".

So we are to give up because the society that elected him is not ready for him? That just doesn't jell and is in itself self contradicting. And given that your theory is correct???????.....what can we expect should a woman be elected as president some day? Are we to expect that society is not ready for this also, and we will see a whole new set of variables, rejections, and push back that are labeled as polarizing due to in your words "byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs"? And for sake of discussion, lets make this a generic question & not assume that it is Hillary.

 

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  posted on 7/6/2014 at 07:12 PM
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.......any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable, but because our nation sadly isn't evolved enough.



Still blaming it on his skin color? You need to add an "s" to "attribute."







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  posted on 7/6/2014 at 07:24 PM
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I guess I'm naive because I don't know what you are talking about.


I have no clue what he is talking about either undoubtedly something he heard on Fox News or Limbaugh pulled directly from their sphincter. In reality the 97% is based on over 12,000 peer-reviewed abstracts on the subjects of 'global warming' and 'global climate change' published between 1991 and 2011 found that of the papers taking a position on the cause of global warming, over 97% agreed that humans are causing it (Cook 2013). But hey never let the facts get in the way of a good made up email chain letter.


Actually Peachy, it comes from the people who took the survey, and I found out the numbers 7 and 6 weren't working much on my old keyboard, so I replaced it.
(The actual numbers should be 76 of 79, and 75 of 77.) respectively.)

But, here again is the survey, with the figures, from the University of Illinois.

tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf


Drag and drop the url to your browser bar. For some reason it won't take you to the link.

By the way, the survey was sent to 10,257 (not over 12,000, don't know what e-mail you got that figure from) recipients, only 3,146 responded, only 79 claimed they were "climatologists" or in a climate related field.
Peer reviewed? Check the paragraph that starts "With 3146 individuals" and check what percentage had peer reviewed papers on climate change.. Give you a hint-a fair amount less than 10%.
Now QUOTING FROM THE SURVEY RESULTS.
"Of these specialists, 96.2% (76 of 79), answered "risen" to question 1 and 97.4% (75 of 77), answered yes to question 2"

And then again, I've posted this survey before, but even though it's the survey that's used to support the climate change debate, most of you won't read what it says.

Post Script: Fox News actually put the survey on air when it came out so people could read it, and understand it. No other news outlet that I now of gave the links to the survey, just the headlines and almost no facts on the survey.

Now, the question was, do you still think the survey was a good cross section
with only 79 responses, and if so, why do you think that a survey with 1,446 responses is not a good cross section?

 

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I find the results of best president interesting:

1. Regean
2. Clinton
3. Kennedy
4. Obama

Now what I find interdsting is the lack of respect for Truman in this poll.

 

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Now, the question was, do you still think the survey was a good cross section
with only 79 responses, and if so, why do you think that a survey with 1,446 responses is not a good cross section?


Is it a poll or a survey?

Regardless 79 responses, depending on who is polled or surveyed, is not a cross section in my opinion.

However, NASA, shows data from far more than 79 scientific respondents. Not just Scientist but professional scientific organizations.

But I can't change the opinions of anti-environmentalist. I'm sorry you think that mankind can keep spewing toxic pollutants into the atmosphere with no consequence. I've seen the world change in my lifetime. I remember what the paper mill in Macon used to smell like. Don't you? If not for government action you'd still be smelling that horrendous stench.

I can't believe you prefer poisonous air to clean air. I think less emissions are a good thing.

 

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  posted on 7/6/2014 at 08:25 PM
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Jerry - I think you are talking about scientist who agree that global warming is man-made?

I don't know where you get the number 9. Maybe the Beatles White Album?

But this is from NASA. The folks who brought us the Moon landing.

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Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities,1and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.


AMERICAN SCIENTIFIC SOCIETIES
Statement on climate change from 18 scientific associations
"Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver." (2009)2
AAAS emblem
American Association for the Advancement of Science
"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)3
ACS emblem
American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." (2004)4
AGU emblem
American Geophysical Union
"Human?induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)5
AMA emblem
American Medical Association
"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)6
AMS emblem
American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)7
APS emblem
American Physical Society
"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)8
GSA emblem
The Geological Society of America
"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse?gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)9


SCIENCE ACADEMIES
International academies: Joint statement
"Climate change is real. There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities (IPCC 2001)." (2005, 11 international science academies)10
USNAS emblem
U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)11


U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES
USGCRP emblem
U.S. Global Change Research Program
"The global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases. Human 'fingerprints' also have been identified in many other aspects of the climate system, including changes in ocean heat content, precipitation, atmospheric moisture, and Arctic sea ice." (2009, 13 U.S. government departments and agencies)12


INTERGOVERNMENTAL BODIES
IPCC emblem
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
“Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global average sea level.”13

“Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely* due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”14

*IPCC defines ‘very likely’ as greater than 90 percent probability of occurrence.


OTHER RESOURCES
List of worldwide scientific organizations
The following page lists the nearly 200 worldwide scientific organizations that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human action.
http://opr.ca.gov/s_listoforganizations.php
U.S. agencies
The following page contains information on what federal agencies are doing to adapt to climate change.
http://www.c2es.org/docUploads/federal-agencies-adaptation.pdf


References

1
W. R. L. Anderegg, “Expert Credibility in Climate Change,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences Vol. 107 No. 27, 12107-12109 (21 June 2010); DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1003187107.

P. T. Doran & M. K. Zimmerman, "Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change," Eos Transactions American Geophysical Union Vol. 90 Issue 3 (2009), 22; DOI: 10.1029/2009EO030002.

N. Oreskes, “Beyond the Ivory Tower: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change,” Science Vol. 306 no. 5702, p. 1686 (3 December 2004); DOI: 10.1126/science.1103618.

2
Statement on climate change from 18 scientific associations (2009)

3
AAAS Board Statement on Climate Change (2006)

4
ACS Public Policy Statement: Climate Change (2010-2013)

5
Human?Induced Climate Change Requires Urgent Action (2013)

6
Global Climate Change and Human Health (2013)

7
Climate Change: An Information Statement of the American Meteorological Society (2012)

8
APS National Policy 07.1 Climate Change (2007)

9
GSA Position Statement on Climate Change (2010)

10
Joint science academies' statement: Global response to climate change (2005)

11
Understanding and Responding to Climate Change (2005)

12
Global Climate Change Impacts in the United States (2009)

13
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Summary for Policymakers (2007)

14
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report, Summary for Policymakers (2007)


You do believe we landed on the Moon, don't you?

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/


And they got the 97% figure from the survey I've tried to get the climate alarmists to read. 97% of 77 is 75 respondents. Not a very large number to call for mass change in economic and global policy is it.

 

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  posted on 7/6/2014 at 08:26 PM
Do you not think that there are more than 75 people in all those cited organizations?

 

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  posted on 7/6/2014 at 11:00 PM
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None of this changes the fact that Obama is the worst President since WWII.
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Obviously this is a subjective topic, no matter how you slice and dice it. A poll does not prove truth.

Hypothetically, even if he is the worst President since WWII, it would be due to his inability to get his ideas and projects approved and completed. Aside from Obamacare, just about everything he wanted to do was blocked by Republicans - and this is where some valid criticisms come into play. He has been too inactive and too polarizing. Ideal Presidents appeal to both sides of the aisle and get sh*t done, and he was never able to do that. Despite my belief that the polarization is an unfair byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs that he is an African Muslim socialist secretly infiltrating our government to Islamatize the U.S. and redistribute white wealth to his own kin folk, any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable,



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Totally agree with you on the subjectivity concept.

Am a bit unsure of your larger paragraph. If I read it correctly, the implication is that society is just not ready for him & his views. I can't buy the polarization yet not his fault concept. He was elected in a national election by the American voters & in spite of a spiteful GOP HOR never accepting his legitimacy. Therefore they punish his agenda and do practically nothing to take care of the peoples' business. This is sad given your closing line "any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable".

So we are to give up because the society that elected him is not ready for him? That just doesn't jell and is in itself self contradicting. And given that your theory is correct???????.....what can we expect should a woman be elected as president some day? Are we to expect that society is not ready for this also, and we will see a whole new set of variables, rejections, and push back that are labeled as polarizing due to in your words "byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs"? And for sake of discussion, lets make this a generic question & not assume that it is Hillary.


Maybe I should've phrased it differently. He won in a landslide in both elections. The majority of American people spoke. It means the majority of our society is ready for him. But the minority group, the right wingers, were not ready, and still not ready. Obama is the Jackie Robinson of US Presidents. They shouted profanities and racial slurs at Jackie Robinson, threw objects at him, and did not welcome him in baseball, but he paved the way for an eventual acceptance. Obama is experiencing the same treatment by the GOP, and it's affecting his ability to get things done. What I am trying to say is that, while I admire his ground-breaking achievements, a black President probably cannot be effective right now because a large minority simply isn't ready for it. However, it had to start sometime and I'm glad Obama did it in 2008. The sooner it happened, the sooner America as a whole can learn to accept and embrace it.


 

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Bottom of the barrel? Worst President ever? Socialist?

In my opinion there is plenty wrong with the above chart. There is also a lot of improvement over the last Republican administration.

 

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And they got the 97% figure from the survey I've tried to get the climate alarmists to read. 97% of 77 is 75 respondents. Not a very large number to call for mass change in economic and global policy is it.


Again if you would like to stick to facts and reality the 97% figure really came from.

In reality the 97% is based on over 12,000 peer-reviewed abstracts on the subjects of 'global warming' and 'global climate change' published between 1991 and 2011 found that of the papers taking a position on the cause of global warming, over 97% agreed that humans are causing it (Cook 2013).


A new analysis of scientists’ articles on global warming and climate change has found almost unanimous agreement that humans are the main cause.

The comprehensive examination of peer-reviewed articles on global warming showed an overwhelming consensus among scientists that much of the recent warming is anthropogenic—the result of human activities.

The study, led by Skeptical Science’s John Cook from the University of Queensland’s Global Climate Institute, saw an international team of 24 scientists and volunteer researchers analyze 11,944 international scientific abstracts published over the last 21 years.

The researchers identified 4,000 abstracts that stated an opinion on whether humans were causing climate change and found 97.1 percent endorsed the theory.

Cook says:

The importance of raising awareness of the scientific consensus on climate change cannot be overstated. Typically, the general public think around 50 percent of climate scientists agree that humans are causing global warming. The Consensus Project has shown that the reality is 97 percent.

While the vast majority of those that discussed whether or not humans are changing the climate agreed they were, the vast majority of the papers—nearly two thirds—did not express any view on the cause of the climate change. The researchers say this shows that scientists believe the debate has “moved on” and now treat the issue as a given.

Published in the journal Environmental Research Letters, the study is the most comprehensive of its kind to date.

While it cements the overwhelming scientific consensus on human-induced global warming, it also highlights the yawning gap between the science and public perception of it, and how this uncertainty is holding back action.

Cook says:

There is a gaping chasm between the actual consensus and public perception. When people understand that scientists agree on global warming, they’re more likely to support policies that take action on it.

Experts have attributed this gap to effective misinformation techniques employed by vested interests such as fossil fuel companies and the climate change denier movement.

This comprehensive study shows that policy makers and business can no longer hide behind any perceived or alleged uncertainty, as the science is unequivocal.






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The Quinnipiac poll results are what they are.
The Obama Presidency has been a complete failure.

The liberals, aka low information voters, do not like the results.
Unable to craft an intelligent response they attack the pollster.

Apparently liberals are not fond of their well earned low information voter label but they are the democrat’s bread and butter. How else could Obama, with no professional experience and a socialist political agenda get elected in the first place?

It is all good. Come November when Harry Reid loses his control of The Senate (just like Pelosi did in The House in 2010, the American People will be able to stop the damage to our nation by Obama.



So YOU vote for the party who: is against raising minimum wage, against labor [unions] and working people in general, against woman's rights, against people having quality healthcare at an affordable price??? unless you are wealthy, you are voting against your own economic self interests. you mule man are UNINFORMED> youse a chicken voting for colonel sanders.


Interesting. Will have to check the GOP platform. I didn't realize they called for opposition to quality healthcare at an affrodable price, women's rights and labor unions. They are probably also against Santa Claus, Fireworks displays and nudity on cable tv.

 

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Conservatives are funny people. It's well-documented that the most educated people in America - professors, doctors, lawyers, etc, are mostly liberal. But yet they now try to pin liberals as "low-info". Insecurity at its finest.


Show us that documentation. And define mostly.

 

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The results of the poll are a fair representation of American voters.



There are nearly 320 million people in the United States.

You actually think a sample size of 1446 can accurately and fairly represent 320 million people?!?

Wow. I'm gob smacked by your naiveté.




Do you entirely reject the use of polling to reflect current public opinion? Because the politicans sure don't. They spend millions on their own internal polls. Or do you only reject it when it says what you don't like.

 

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If you look at the actual poll data in the link at the top, you will see that the people who participated are broken down by party affiliation and gender.

The results of the poll are a fair representation of American voters.


So were the results of the last Presidential election.



That was nearly two years ago. A lot of buyer's remorse.

 

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None of this changes the fact that Obama is the worst President since WWII.


Obviously this is a subjective topic, no matter how you slice and dice it. A poll does not prove truth.

Hypothetically, even if he is the worst President since WWII, it would be due to his inability to get his ideas and projects approved and completed. Aside from Obamacare, just about everything he wanted to do was blocked by Republicans - and this is where some valid criticisms come into play. He has been too inactive and too polarizing. Ideal Presidents appeal to both sides of the aisle and get sh*t done, and he was never able to do that. Despite my belief that the polarization is an unfair byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs that he is an African Muslim socialist secretly infiltrating our government to Islamatize the U.S. and redistribute white wealth to his own kin folk, any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable, but because our nation sadly isn't evolved enough.





Without getting back into the blame game the poll reveals exactly one thing, a plurality of the electorate NOW thinks Obama is the worst president since WWII. The fact that ANY think that outside of hard core Republicans should be (and I'm sure is) alarming to Obama and his political operatives. That is all the poll means. It is a reflection of public opinion at this time. Whether he is or is not the worst or best president is obviously a subjective opinion and cannot be proven in any way at any time.

 

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I find the results of best president interesting:

1. Regean
2. Clinton
3. Kennedy
4. Obama

Now what I find interdsting is the lack of respect for Truman in this poll.

That is natural. Most Americans younger than 50 have little knowledge of who Truman was or what he did. Kennedy remains well known because of the circumstances of his death. Note Eisenhower's relative absence as well.

 

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Obviously this is a subjective topic, no matter how you slice and dice it. A poll does not prove truth.

Hypothetically, even if he is the worst President since WWII, it would be due to his inability to get his ideas and projects approved and completed. Aside from Obamacare, just about everything he wanted to do was blocked by Republicans - and this is where some valid criticisms come into play. He has been too inactive and too polarizing. Ideal Presidents appeal to both sides of the aisle and get sh*t done, and he was never able to do that. Despite my belief that the polarization is an unfair byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs that he is an African Muslim socialist secretly infiltrating our government to Islamatize the U.S. and redistribute white wealth to his own kin folk, any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable,



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Totally agree with you on the subjectivity concept.

Am a bit unsure of your larger paragraph. If I read it correctly, the implication is that society is just not ready for him & his views. I can't buy the polarization yet not his fault concept. He was elected in a national election by the American voters & in spite of a spiteful GOP HOR never accepting his legitimacy. Therefore they punish his agenda and do practically nothing to take care of the peoples' business. This is sad given your closing line "any person that possesses an attribute that causes such extreme polarization that we see today should not be President - not because they are incapable".

So we are to give up because the society that elected him is not ready for him? That just doesn't jell and is in itself self contradicting. And given that your theory is correct???????.....what can we expect should a woman be elected as president some day? Are we to expect that society is not ready for this also, and we will see a whole new set of variables, rejections, and push back that are labeled as polarizing due to in your words "byproduct of ignorant close-minded beliefs"? And for sake of discussion, lets make this a generic question & not assume that it is Hillary.


Maybe I should've phrased it differently. He won in a landslide in both elections. The majority of American people spoke. It means the majority of our society is ready for him. But the minority group, the right wingers, were not ready, and still not ready. Obama is the Jackie Robinson of US Presidents. They shouted profanities and racial slurs at Jackie Robinson, threw objects at him, and did not welcome him in baseball, but he paved the way for an eventual acceptance. Obama is experiencing the same treatment by the GOP, and it's affecting his ability to get things done. What I am trying to say is that, while I admire his ground-breaking achievements, a black President probably cannot be effective right now because a large minority simply isn't ready for it. However, it had to start sometime and I'm glad Obama did it in 2008. The sooner it happened, the sooner America as a whole can learn to accept and embrace it.




Landslide? You have a funny definition of landslide. What was his percentage of the popular vote in 2012? Reagan and Bush senior won in Landslides.

 

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  posted on 7/7/2014 at 12:44 PM
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“Maybe I should've phrased it differently. He won in a landslide in both elections. The majority of American people spoke. It means the majority of our society is ready for him. But the minority group, the right wingers, were not ready, and still not ready. Obama is the Jackie Robinson of US Presidents. They shouted profanities and racial slurs at Jackie Robinson, threw objects at him, and did not welcome him in baseball, but he paved the way for an eventual acceptance. Obama is experiencing the same treatment by the GOP, and it's affecting his ability to get things done. What I am trying to say is that, while I admire his ground-breaking achievements, a black President probably cannot be effective right now because a large minority simply isn't ready for it. However, it had to start sometime and I'm glad Obama did it in 2008. The sooner it happened, the sooner America as a whole can learn to accept and embrace it.”

What a load of crap.

There was no landslide win.

The majority of Americans did not vote.

Playing the race card yet again? The GOP never did. It was Obama himself who invoked race into his campaign with his “people that look like me” comment. Not once did any GOP’er ever make a remark about his race. Bill Clinton did.

Obama has no ability to get anything done. He has no resume with professional experience outside of being a community agitator.

His “ground breaking achievements” do not exist.

“A large minority simply isn't ready for it” is wrong. The American People reject his socialist, far-left political agenda.

The GOP has passed many bills in Congress to help create real jobs, protect our nation and get the government out of the people’s lives. Harry Reid, who controls the Senate, simply will not allow any bill coming out of the House to come up for a vote.

Obama’s presidency will end in November when Harry Reid loses his position in the Senate and The American People can begin to repair our Nation from the damage done by Obama.

Obama’s presidency is so bad that even Hillary is criticizing his economic, foreign policy and inability to work with Congress. Obama is in real trouble when Hillary openly rejects him.


 

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2681812/Its-politics-not-science-dr iving-climate-change-mania-UN-predictions-subject-ridicule-stunning-failure .html

 

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  posted on 7/7/2014 at 12:59 PM
OK. You guys win. He is the worst President ever. Woohoo! Yeah! You Guys are the Winners! Yay! You won!

USA! USA! USA!

 

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  posted on 7/7/2014 at 01:06 PM
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Quote:
“Maybe I should've phrased it differently. He won in a landslide in both elections. The majority of American people spoke. It means the majority of our society is ready for him. But the minority group, the right wingers, were not ready, and still not ready. Obama is the Jackie Robinson of US Presidents. They shouted profanities and racial slurs at Jackie Robinson, threw objects at him, and did not welcome him in baseball, but he paved the way for an eventual acceptance. Obama is experiencing the same treatment by the GOP, and it's affecting his ability to get things done. What I am trying to say is that, while I admire his ground-breaking achievements, a black President probably cannot be effective right now because a large minority simply isn't ready for it. However, it had to start sometime and I'm glad Obama did it in 2008. The sooner it happened, the sooner America as a whole can learn to accept and embrace it.”

What a load of crap.

There was no landslide win.

The majority of Americans did not vote.

Playing the race card yet again? The GOP never did. It was Obama himself who invoked race into his campaign with his “people that look like me” comment. Not once did any GOP’er ever make a remark about his race. Bill Clinton did.

Obama has no ability to get anything done. He has no resume with professional experience outside of being a community agitator.

His “ground breaking achievements” do not exist.

“A large minority simply isn't ready for it” is wrong. The American People reject his socialist, far-left political agenda.

The GOP has passed many bills in Congress to help create real jobs, protect our nation and get the government out of the people’s lives. Harry Reid, who controls the Senate, simply will not allow any bill coming out of the House to come up for a vote.

Obama’s presidency will end in November when Harry Reid loses his position in the Senate and The American People can begin to repair our Nation from the damage done by Obama.

Obama’s presidency is so bad that even Hillary is criticizing his economic, foreign policy and inability to work with Congress. Obama is in real trouble when Hillary openly rejects him.


You sir, know nothing.

 

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