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https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8462177/dickey-betts-retire ment-interview

Dickey Betts says it's been "a little scary" returning to the stage this year after a four-and-a-half-year retirement/hiatus. But it's certainly better than the alternative.

"When I turned 70 years old I just figured I wanted to go fishing and play golf and mess around and stuff, so I decided I would retire," the Allman Brothers Band co-founder, now 74, tells Billboard. "Well, I got bored as hell sitting around here. Then I do this Rolling Stone interview -- just to be friendly, I wasn't really working on a career or nothing -- and when it came out the promoters starting calling me, offering me good money to go out and play again. I was bored, and they wanted me back. That's the way it happened."

The new Dickey Betts Band, a septet which includes his son Duane, also on guitar, played two shows during May, including one in the Allmans' ground zero of Macon, Ga., and has another nine shows booked in the coming months, starting July 15 at the Great South Bay Music Festival in Patchogue, N.Y.

Here are nine things to know about Betts and his return to active duty:

1. Betts was overwhelmed by not only the turnout but also by the enthusiasm and love he's gotten from fans so far for his return. "I'm really flattered. I know it's unfortunately because Gregg (Allman) and the band have, you know, gone away. It's just me and Jaimoe left, and I know that's part of it, which is the sad part. But it's reality, and the good part is I'm still here and I can still play and I know how to put a good band together and play the music."

2. Betts admits his playing is "a little rusty, a little unimaginative right now, but it won't take long, I'll work my way back out there. It's sort of like Tiger Woods; You can't just come back and start winning golf tournaments again."

3. Betts is keenly aware that as one of the last two original Allman Brothers Band members standing he's carrying a torch for the group's legacy. "The people are making me feel that way. I never felt that way at all, but when you get out there and you hear all these things from the fans, it's amazing. And then just to see how the shows are selling out, it's kind of amazing to me. The fans are telling me how much interest there is, and I am the guy now who can produce this music because I wrote half of it and participated in all of it."

4. Betts has picked up the mantle to play some of Allmans songs the late Gregg Allman sang, which he says "brought back a lot of great memories. I didn't remember some of 'em -- I could play 'Midnight Rider,' but 'Whipping Post' I forgot. It's been 20 years since I'd played it. My son kind of had to show me what I used to do and I had to re-learn it, but it was a cool process. It's fun to play it, too. It's a powerful song."

5. Despite some acrimony over the course of Allmans' history -- including his 2000 ouster from the band that led to a lawsuit -- Betts was on good terms with Gregg Allman before he died last year. "I talked to Gregg several times in the last four years or so, before he passed away. We knew he was sick. We had hopes he would get over it. Most of us knew he had cancer, but we didn't let that get out because he didn’t want the public to know that. But we knew. In the end, when he got really sick, of course I called him about every other day. The ironic thing is here's a guy who's got the greatest voice I've ever worked with, one of the greatest blues singers of all time, and he couldn't talk on the phone. He had to whisper. It was really sad. He enjoyed talking when I called him and when we got together, so that's what counts."

6. Betts feels the Allmans' sense of brotherhood always won out over any disputes between the band members. "It was a feud in the band over business is what it was. I don't want to get into it, and it didn't have anything to do with Gregg, it was people trying to influence him. But even when that was going on, I said, 'I think you're making a mistake, Gregg. I'm your buddy, and I don't hold anything against you, I just think you're misjudging this thing.' We never were at each other’s throats. It's a very awkward thing. Unfortunately a lot of bands go through that kind of crap, you know, get jealous of the other people, or get more attention. There you go."

7. Betts' favorite songs to play are also some of the fans' favorites to hear. "You know, when you write songs they're like kids. It's hard to pick a favorite. But 'Jessica' and 'Ramblin' Man,' 'Blue Sky' -- ones that are the crowd's favorites I guess are my favorites. That's kinda what makes them your favorites, how effective they are, and how the crowd receives them."

8. Betts reports that his own health is good these days. "I had a little trouble, but it was brief and not that serious. I have a little carpal tunnel in my right hand and I have to go get therapy for once or twice a week. But I'm in good shape."

9. Besides getting back on the road Betts hopes that his path will lead back into the studio again. "Now that I'm playing again my mind is starting to think more and more. I was just lazy and thinking about going fishing and stuff the last four years, but now a few songs have come to mind. I was telling my wife that this morning about a phrase that I heard. That would be the trigger about whether I would record or not, if I write some songs that I think are interesting. If some songs happen, you know, I'll definitely get in and record them. I know there's people who would like to hear them, and I appreciate that."

 

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  posted on 6/21/2018 at 04:10 PM
The idea of a new Dickey Betts album is too good to not get excited about, even though I have my doubts that it will actually happen. Interesting to hear he and Gregg had been talking for the last four years. I'm happy that he's able to go out and see how loved he is. Fish don't tell you that.

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  posted on 6/21/2018 at 04:18 PM
Thanks for the read, Dickey Betts telling it like it is.

 

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  posted on 6/21/2018 at 04:33 PM
Wow!!! This interview is chock full of stuff

1. Dickey forgot how to play Whipping Post
2. He had much more contact with Gregg than what got out there previously
3. He knows he played poorly and put it into its proper context that even he, the great guitarist, needed to work more to get his chops back (and that he expected it to happen)
4. Apparently his wife is not in jail
5. He may consider recording
6. Sounds like his interest in continuing to play may grow, rather than this run he is doing be a farewell
7. He is feeling the love from the fans
8. "I wrote half of it, and participated in all of it" what a great line!!

 

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  posted on 6/21/2018 at 05:58 PM
Thanks for posting this. Carry on brother, carry on.

 

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  posted on 6/21/2018 at 05:58 PM
Thanks for sharing.Glad to hear Gregg and Dickey were on good terms before he passed away.

 

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  posted on 6/21/2018 at 07:16 PM
Yes he and Gregg more than once over the years would get irritated with each other then they would be fine. I think one of Gregg's friends said Dickey and Gregg had not spoken for over 10 years and Gregg left space on a track for Dickey to play on Southern Blood but got sick and they never set up the time and Gregg didn't finish his vocal dubs either.

Dickey's drinking getting worse and being mean to band members was part of it but Dickey is right about jealousy over business. I'm almost certain it was a situation that developed with Butch Truck's after a 1991 compilation of the old songs came out called "A Decade of Hits". It sold over 2 million copies and Butch was posting here then and would answer questions from the fans including me and he suddenly seemed angry over that CD complaining that Gregg and Dickey made millions off that release and he (Butch) got nothing and he should have gotten a credit on a few songs. When asked he mentioned how he and Oakley almost rewrote Whipping Post and when Gregg showed it to the band it was a slow ballad and he and Oakley changed the time and tempo and Oakley came up with the intro by himself. He mentioned contributions he made to Liz Reed and especially Madness From The West on Reach For The Sky. But when the record came out only Dickey got a credit. Butch explained Dickey said Duane was clear the one who cane up with the song is the writer and the rest is arrangement and Butch admitted Duane was that way but in his view some of those songs ended up being written by several band members. I think he mentioned Chuck's work on additional ideas for Jessica to go with the melody and changes Dickey came up with. Next Butch began developing person business he wanted to involve the band with so he too could have additional revenue and Dickey was very opposed to mixing band business and bad feelings and jealousy kept growing in the 90s plus Dickey's drinking got worse and Gregg even tired of that and the bad attitude it caused Dickey to have and the growing pressure finally exploded in 2000 after they did that short spring tour.

Anybody think of something else that caused it?

 

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Yes he and Gregg more than once over the years would get irritated with each other then they would be fine. I think one of Gregg's friends said Dickey and Gregg had not spoken for over 10 years and Gregg left space on a track for Dickey to play on Southern Blood but got sick and they never set up the time and Gregg didn't finish his vocal dubs either.

Dickey's drinking getting worse and being mean to band members was part of it but Dickey is right about jealousy over business. I'm almost certain it was a situation that developed with Butch Truck's after a 1991 compilation of the old songs came out called "A Decade of Hits". It sold over 2 million copies and Butch was posting here then and would answer questions from the fans including me and he suddenly seemed angry over that CD complaining that Gregg and Dickey made millions off that release and he (Butch) got nothing and he should have gotten a credit on a few songs. When asked he mentioned how he and Oakley almost rewrote Whipping Post and when Gregg showed it to the band it was a slow ballad and he and Oakley changed the time and tempo and Oakley came up with the intro by himself. He mentioned contributions he made to Liz Reed and especially Madness From The West on Reach For The Sky. But when the record came out only Dickey got a credit. Butch explained Dickey said Duane was clear the one who cane up with the song is the writer and the rest is arrangement and Butch admitted Duane was that way but in his view some of those songs ended up being written by several band members. I think he mentioned Chuck's work on additional ideas for Jessica to go with the melody and changes Dickey came up with. Next Butch began developing person business he wanted to involve the band with so he too could have additional revenue and Dickey was very opposed to mixing band business and bad feelings and jealousy kept growing in the 90s plus Dickey's drinking got worse and Gregg even tired of that and the bad attitude it caused Dickey to have and the growing pressure finally exploded in 2000 after they did that short spring tour.

Anybody think of something else that caused it?


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Sorry, but I would rather leave the bodies buried and resting in peace. Enjoy the music they left us and cherish those we have left, they may not be with us that much longer.



 

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  posted on 6/22/2018 at 09:10 AM
Alan hit a home run with his post on this topic. As usual his thoughts are well said and directly to the point. Thanks my friend.
 

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  posted on 6/22/2018 at 11:28 AM
Big Thanks porkchopbob, for the link and for starting this discussion, it means alot, since Butch and Gregg passed, I have pretty much been at a loss for words, my thoughts, emotions and words are all knotted up, slowly I will be able to unravel it all inside and put it all somewhat into order and perspective................Peace...........joe
 

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Alan hit a home run with his post on this topic. As usual his thoughts are well said and directly to the point. Thanks my friend.


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  posted on 6/22/2018 at 02:47 PM
Thanks for the link,PCB...great to read...

And Alan-beautifully said.

 

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  posted on 6/22/2018 at 05:02 PM
“Well I got bored as hell sitting around here”. True Dickey. Gotta love it. That interview contained more info directly from him than I’ve seen in a long time. I hope his health stays good, his playing gets better with every gig, he stays on the road longer than 9 more dates, he records some new stuff and he considers another gig in Macon. That right there would kick retirement’s ass Ramblin’ Man style. Go get it, Dickey!
 

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Sorry, but I would rather leave the bodies buried and resting in peace. Enjoy the music they left us and cherish those we have left, they may not be with us that much longer.


Spot on.

Thank you.

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I thought I remember reading in Alan's book that the issues with Jessica were with Les Dudek not with Chuck. I thought Chuck actually defended Dickey over it in the book. Maybe I need to go re-read? Pretty sure Dickey opposed Wanee too and Wanee may have happened sooner than 2005 had it not been voted down. I believe it was an idea that BT had maybe as far back as 1999 or so. Took them about 2-3 years after the lawsuit was settled in 2002 or so to get Wanee up and running. Takes about 2 years in advance to plan logistics for a festival. First one in 2005 wasn't as big attendance wise as it is now. This past year wasn't as big attendance wise as it has been before but I also heard Panic was on year one of a 3 year headlining deal with LN. Anyway it's to bad that DB couldn't have shared the loot on even just those two songs with BT. Not like it would've hurt him all that much $-wise. He's estimated to be worth as much as GA and WH(the bands next biggest songwriters after DB) combined it seems. And it definitely woulda helped BT out. I read somewhere (after GA died) where DB said in article he was sorry and expressed some remorse about a lawsuit though I'm unsure which one he was talking about because it wasn't clear in the article the one with Walden or the one in 2001. When you see the lists and you see other people who have had divorces like Waters and Gilmour and their net worth it's easy to understand why they don't want to work together. They don't need to money-wise. And why deal with the stress? I remember reading in one of the books(think Alan's) I think it was Johnny Podell said Gregg expressed to him it would be worth it to him taking less money overall for them to get rid of the stress of having DB around. Hindsight but . . . Maybe they would've fared better overall had they kicked DB out after the September '96 incident with DB and BT and Woody. Maybe WH abs Woody might not have left? Also . . . That was about a year after Jerry Garcia died and the ABB were one of the bands that could've taken up the jam band mantle. The remnants of the Dead were disorganized at the time and Phish has basically taken the mantle. I've recently read an analysis where a writer(think it was Joel Selvin in SFCA) mentioned just that and also criticized them (Core 4) for not sticking together, being organized, and touring *together* sooner after JG died and missing a major opportunity to capitalize on their popularity. Just makes you see even more how much this is a business like it or not. Still as much as it is a business these guys in our band LIVED to play live music. Regardless of how you feel or what sides you believe or take . . . We're just lucky to have had all of them and their music and still have a few of them.


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Yes he and Gregg more than once over the years would get irritated with each other then they would be fine. I think one of Gregg's friends said Dickey and Gregg had not spoken for over 10 years and Gregg left space on a track for Dickey to play on Southern Blood but got sick and they never set up the time and Gregg didn't finish his vocal dubs either.

Dickey's drinking getting worse and being mean to band members was part of it but Dickey is right about jealousy over business. I'm almost certain it was a situation that developed with Butch Truck's after a 1991 compilation of the old songs came out called "A Decade of Hits". It sold over 2 million copies and Butch was posting here then and would answer questions from the fans including me and he suddenly seemed angry over that CD complaining that Gregg and Dickey made millions off that release and he (Butch) got nothing and he should have gotten a credit on a few songs. When asked he mentioned how he and Oakley almost rewrote Whipping Post and when Gregg showed it to the band it was a slow ballad and he and Oakley changed the time and tempo and Oakley came up with the intro by himself. He mentioned contributions he made to Liz Reed and especially Madness From The West on Reach For The Sky. But when the record came out only Dickey got a credit. Butch explained Dickey said Duane was clear the one who cane up with the song is the writer and the rest is arrangement and Butch admitted Duane was that way but in his view some of those songs ended up being written by several band members. I think he mentioned Chuck's work on additional ideas for Jessica to go with the melody and changes Dickey came up with. Next Butch began developing person business he wanted to involve the band with so he too could have additional revenue and Dickey was very opposed to mixing band business and bad feelings and jealousy kept growing in the 90s plus Dickey's drinking got worse and Gregg even tired of that and the bad attitude it caused Dickey to have and the growing pressure finally exploded in 2000 after they did that short spring tour.

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Hi Holt. It seems Butch was talking about how other band members made big contributions to how songs ended up sounding and he mentioned Chuck on Jessica, himself and Oakley on Whipping Post, himself on Liz Reed and Butch was clearly irritated he didn't get a credit on the writing but did say that is how Duane wanted it. The one who brought the song to the band got the writing credit no matter how much the band changed it. And the music, not the words, on Whipping Post, was completely changed. Butch said the song Gregg wrote was a slow ballad.

Butch wrote here, I think it was after the 2000 fax, looking back they should have kicked Dickey out in 1973 and hired new guitar players and not gone down that Ramblin' Man/Brothers and Sisters road. It wasn't the way Duane wanting the band to sound. He did admit Duane allowed Blue Sky into the band and it had that country feel but while Duane was alive it was the only song like that they did. Butch just didn't like the way Dickey took over and controlled the band all those years and was jealous of Dickey making more money than the rest of them. If that web site that tracks net wealth of noted people is correct, Dickey's 40 million to Gregg's 15 million is what Butch didn't like with his less than Gregg's. So Dickey is right. Much of what happened in 2000 with the fax was jealousy that didn't involve Gregg that had been festering for years until it finally exploded and Gregg got talked into backing it. But Gregg and Dickey were very close on and off for so many years it was only natural they began to miss each other. Gregg's first move to reach out to Dickey was doing Southbound in his solo band and mentioning it was a song by Mr. Dickey Betts. How it happened is subject to different versions but what happened is clear. Dickey Betts' sound is a huge part of the ABB. More so than Butch I guess.

As to Jessica, Dickey was stuck on Jessica and Les Dudek heard what Dickey had written when Dickey played it to him and Les came up with the bridge for the song. Dickey went to Phil Walden and told him he wanted Les to have a writing credit. Phil also felt Les would be a good choice to replace Duane but Butch and Gregg and later Dickey opposed it. Les began saying in Macon he got the gig but Butch and Gregg exploded when that heard about it. So Les was out before he got in. The band was opposed to anybody replacing Duane. Les got irritated and wanted Phil to let him out of his contract. When Brothers and Sisters came out only Dickey got a credit for Jessica and Chuck Leavell defended that move saying it was Dickey's song and what Les and even himself ( Chuck) did was part of the arrangement they put on the song. So Chuck agreed with how Duane Allman viewed that kind of thing.

Whether you are a Dickey fan or not ( I am. I thought his sound was huge to the original line up) there is no getting around Dickey Betts' guitar style and original material is as big a part of what is the Allman Brothers as anything.

Yes only Jaimoe and Dickey are left and the fights within the Brothers are in the past and Gregg and Dickey healed their relationship ( they did love each other when they weren't mad) four years before Gregg died so I'm for getting off this subject and shouldn't have brought it up. From what I'm reading above, many fans just want to enjoy the recordings left behind and not revisit the fights inside the band.. I'm rather sure I've figured out most of what happened primarily from Butch's posts here and Alan Paul's book. After having to deal with the tragic loss of Duane and Berry, the 1976 breakup over Butch and Dickey turning on Gregg in that Scooter mess, I just wanted to know what was really behind all the changes after the band really found it's footing and direction in 1989. I'm done talking about it. Everybody have a great weekend and enjoy the music we have left behind. I'll do that too. I'm 71 and got hooked on this band with the original lineup and heard them many times. I'm not going to be around much longer either so everyone take care!!!!

 

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 10:26 AM
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Hi Holt. It seems Butch was talking about how other band members made big contributions to how songs ended up sounding and he mentioned Chuck on Jessica, himself and Oakley on Whipping Post, himself on Liz Reed and Butch was clearly irritated he didn't get a credit on the writing but did say that is how Duane wanted it. The one who brought the song to the band got the writing credit no matter how much the band changed it. And the music, not the words, on Whipping Post, was completely changed. Butch said the song Gregg wrote was a slow ballad.

Butch wrote here, I think it was after the 2000 fax, looking back they should have kicked Dickey out in 1973 and hired new guitar players and not gone down that Ramblin' Man/Brothers and Sisters road. It wasn't the way Duane wanting the band to sound. He did admit Duane allowed Blue Sky into the band and it had that country feel but while Duane was alive it was the only song like that they did. Butch just didn't like the way Dickey took over and controlled the band all those years and was jealous of Dickey making more money than the rest of them. If that web site that tracks net wealth of noted people is correct, Dickey's 40 million to Gregg's 15 million is what Butch didn't like with his less than Gregg's. So Dickey is right. Much of what happened in 2000 with the fax was jealousy that didn't involve Gregg that had been festering for years until it finally exploded and Gregg got talked into backing it. But Gregg and Dickey were very close on and off for so many years it was only natural they began to miss each other. Gregg's first move to reach out to Dickey was doing Southbound in his solo band and mentioning it was a song by Mr. Dickey Betts. How it happened is subject to different versions but what happened is clear. Dickey Betts' sound is a huge part of the ABB. More so than Butch I guess.

As to Jessica, Dickey was stuck on Jessica and Les Dudek heard what Dickey had written when Dickey played it to him and Les came up with the bridge for the song. Dickey went to Phil Walden and told him he wanted Les to have a writing credit. Phil also felt Les would be a good choice to replace Duane but Butch and Gregg and later Dickey opposed it. Les began saying in Macon he got the gig but Butch and Gregg exploded when that heard about it. So Les was out before he got in. The band was opposed to anybody replacing Duane. Les got irritated and wanted Phil to let him out of his contract. When Brothers and Sisters came out only Dickey got a credit for Jessica and Chuck Leavell defended that move saying it was Dickey's song and what Les and even himself ( Chuck) did was part of the arrangement they put on the song. So Chuck agreed with how Duane Allman viewed that kind of thing.

Whether you are a Dickey fan or not ( I am. I thought his sound was huge to the original line up) there is no getting around Dickey Betts' guitar style and original material is as big a part of what is the Allman Brothers as anything.

Yes only Jaimoe and Dickey are left and the fights within the Brothers are in the past and Gregg and Dickey healed their relationship ( they did love each other when they weren't mad) four years before Gregg died so I'm for getting off this subject and shouldn't have brought it up. From what I'm reading above, many fans just want to enjoy the recordings left behind and not revisit the fights inside the band.. I'm rather sure I've figured out most of what happened primarily from Butch's posts here and Alan Paul's book. After having to deal with the tragic loss of Duane and Berry, the 1976 breakup over Butch and Dickey turning on Gregg in that Scooter mess, I just wanted to know what was really behind all the changes after the band really found it's footing and direction in 1989. I'm done talking about it. Everybody have a great weekend and enjoy the music we have left behind. I'll do that too. I'm 71 and got hooked on this band with the original lineup and heard them many times. I'm not going to be around much longer either so everyone take care!!!!

 

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 10:35 AM
Good posts, & also between 1970 & 76, in addition to what you mentioned, the firings of the 3 roadies after the RFK gig in 1973 -- that too was a nail in the coffin, arbitrarily firing 3 guys who were brothers & had helped get them there -- yes they might've been out of school but it was nothing they hadn't dealt with before in that fashion, if that's what the circumstance called for --

but yes, Gregg said in his book that Dickey brought in the Les Brers riff, & the band composed/fined-tuned it collectively in the studio -- pretty much the way they'd jam onstage -- only in a state of shock at Duane's passing

 

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 12:13 PM
Sad to see and hear Mr Betts playing guitar like a
Noob at times. Folks that isn't 'just rusty' that's the bottle
and the damage done.

Pardon my skepticism but I have to doubt that GA was
spending the energy he had whispering to DB every other
day as he was winding down the last weeks of his life. I can see
Warren calling him and then speaking that much, but not DB.

I of course don't know. Good to hear he enjoys the thanks from fans
but his playing days are behind him.

Guy is not just old but a shell of himself, it's sad.
I've seen plenty of old musicians but they weren't
"relearning" songs. Watching some of those vids is like watching
BB at the end. Cringeworthy. Off key and and awful,
Love the man, but he shouldn't have taken ppls money for a ticket

 

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 04:14 PM
WaitinForRain...pathetic post. Between dumping **** on Betts and pretending to know what his “real” relationship was with Gregg at the end, what are you 12? When you are 75, just hope nobody thinks you are “a shell” of yourself and your life’s work isnt worth celebrating or reliving for the people that enjoy/appreciate it. I suggest letting people decide for themselves if one of the last 2 founding members of THE ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND is worth the ticket price. I was in Macon and sure didnt see ANYbody complaining or thinking they needed their money back. I dont get this destructive mentality. Only people that havent done much livin’ could come up with **** that lame, brother.

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 06:59 PM
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WaitinForRain...pathetic post.


Everyone here is entitled to their opinion, even if you don't care for it.

And perhaps you should not be critical of others, especially when you been on this site for less than 30 days

 

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 07:44 PM
Yes, BigV, and MY opinion was that another post was pathetic. Thanks for reminding me I am “new” here, even though I’ve been following ABB in its various incarnations, plus Dickey’s bands for more years than I care to count. I can see now why this forum is so dead. The band only has 2 members left and all anybody who’s left here wants to do is tear them down. A little healthy criticism is one thing, but this typical **** storm of ripping Betts has been going on ever since I started reading here years ago. Does a legend in the twilight of his career deserve ANY respect on a ABB forum? I guess not. It’s like a sickness. When Betts is gone, then you can start in on Jaimoe. Enjoy youselves. I’m out.
 

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 07:55 PM
I prefer to remember him when he new what notes he would hit on the guitar, not what I saw of him floundering around, just as I would rather not hear Stephen Stills sing off key because he is stone deaf.

has nothing to do with me loving an artist's work, but I never thought enjoying music meant I had to enjoy every single thing an artist produced.

Reach for the sky, "southern fan' ... LoLs

 

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  posted on 6/23/2018 at 08:04 PM
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A little healthy criticism is one thing, but this typical **** storm of ripping Betts has been going on ever since I started reading here years ago.


Please forgive me for forgetting that you are both Judge and Jury

 

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