Thread: If only we all had lawyers like Mr. Cohen.

StratDal - 2/14/2018 at 01:39 PM

Yep. $130k out of his own pocket... bless him..!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/politics/michael-cohen-stormy-daniels-paymen t/index.html


LeafontheWind - 2/14/2018 at 02:10 PM

It's indicative how morally lacking this president is when he had an extramarital affair with a porn star, basically during his honeymoon period with his new wife, then pays her off during the campaign in 2016, and all anyone cares about is where the payoff money came from.

Everyone but Melania that is.

I wonder if Melania started threatening divorce if they would pay her off too.


nebish - 2/14/2018 at 04:08 PM

Sounds like a tax problem if he didn't claim that payment a gift, I've never seen the itemization for porn star hush-money, Cohen just signaled the IRS for an audit.


MartinD28 - 2/14/2018 at 05:12 PM

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It's indicative how morally lacking this president is when he had an extramarital affair with a porn star, basically during his honeymoon period with his new wife, then pays her off during the campaign in 2016, and all anyone cares about is where the payoff money came from.

Everyone but Melania that is.

I wonder if Melania started threatening divorce if they would pay her off too.


For goob - Can you believe this? Time for a Hillary Clinton diversion into Benghazi or Uranium?


2112 - 2/14/2018 at 08:34 PM

Interesting - Stormy has now said that this has invalidated their agreement and now she is free to talk about her sexual relationship with Trump.

I honestly don't care about the affair, as I couldn't possibly think less of Trump’s moral character than I already do already, but it will be fun to see all the christian conservatives, formerly known as the moral majority, make excuses for him.


crazyjoe - 2/14/2018 at 09:17 PM

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Interesting - Stormy has now said that this has invalidated their agreement and now she is free to talk about her sexual relationship with Trump.

I honestly don't care about the affair, as I couldn't possibly think less of Trump’s moral character than I already do already, but it will be fun to see all the christian conservatives, formerly known as the moral majority, make excuses for him.


No excuses needed 2112, the president and Roy Moore have sat down and Prayed together, both have been cleansed and redeemed and are once again fit for public service............Peace........joe


MartinD28 - 2/14/2018 at 11:12 PM

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Interesting - Stormy has now said that this has invalidated their agreement and now she is free to talk about her sexual relationship with Trump.

I honestly don't care about the affair, as I couldn't possibly think less of Trump’s moral character than I already do already, but it will be fun to see all the christian conservatives, formerly known as the moral majority, make excuses for him.


I doubt you'll see any reaction. They've already given him a mulligan. They care about one thing and one thing only - putting anti choice justices on the Supreme Court. Anything else they turn their heads the other way. They're all a bunch of disgusting hypocrites.


gina - 2/15/2018 at 12:19 AM

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It's indicative how morally lacking this president is when he had an extramarital affair with a porn star, basically during his honeymoon period with his new wife, then pays her off during the campaign in 2016, and all anyone cares about is where the payoff money came from.

Everyone but Melania that is.

I wonder if Melania started threatening divorce if they would pay her off too.


How do you know which one of them (the lawyer or the Prez) had their hands in her cookie jar? Just sayin'.. I know it looks like the Donald was guilty and the lawyer paid her off to keep her mouth shut, but there are several possibilities.

1) The Donald did it and the lawyer paid her off so as not to upset the campaign.

2) The Donald DID NOT do it, but they were worried the woman might mouth off and make people believe that he did do it with her, so damage control went info effect.

3) The lawyer was the one doing her, but when she saw that Donald was running for President, and since he was the lawyer she saw potential for Big money, and he knew he'd have to cover it all up so that nobody got exposed.

4) Neither one of them had sex with her, and Donald just wanted to help her pay some bills because he is a generous, benevolent man that helps out people in distress. Seriously he has done this for people. I said earlier she may have needed money for medical bills, a family member or whatever, and he just wanted to help out with out a media circus occurring. This is POSSIBLE.




MartinD28 - 2/15/2018 at 01:38 AM

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It's indicative how morally lacking this president is when he had an extramarital affair with a porn star, basically during his honeymoon period with his new wife, then pays her off during the campaign in 2016, and all anyone cares about is where the payoff money came from.

Everyone but Melania that is.

I wonder if Melania started threatening divorce if they would pay her off too.


How do you know which one of them (the lawyer or the Prez) had their hands in her cookie jar? Just sayin'.. I know it looks like the Donald was guilty and the lawyer paid her off to keep her mouth shut, but there are several possibilities.

1) The Donald did it and the lawyer paid her off so as not to upset the campaign.

2) The Donald DID NOT do it, but they were worried the woman might mouth off and make people believe that he did do it with her, so damage control went info effect.

3) The lawyer was the one doing her, but when she saw that Donald was running for President, and since he was the lawyer she saw potential for Big money, and he knew he'd have to cover it all up so that nobody got exposed.

4) Neither one of them had sex with her, and Donald just wanted to help her pay some bills because he is a generous, benevolent man that helps out people in distress. Seriously he has done this for people. I said earlier she may have needed money for medical bills, a family member or whatever, and he just wanted to help out with out a media circus occurring. This is POSSIBLE.






Gina,

It's Valentines Day; not April Fools Day. You are actually presenting those scenarios as a joke, right?

I'm going to go with #4 because Donald is a compassionate man & altruistic. Can't find an individual with better values & character. If you don't believe me, then just ask Mike Pence.


LeafontheWind - 2/15/2018 at 02:55 AM

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It's indicative how morally lacking this president is when he had an extramarital affair with a porn star, basically during his honeymoon period with his new wife, then pays her off during the campaign in 2016, and all anyone cares about is where the payoff money came from.

Everyone but Melania that is.

I wonder if Melania started threatening divorce if they would pay her off too.


How do you know which one of them (the lawyer or the Prez) had their hands in her cookie jar? Just sayin'.. I know it looks like the Donald was guilty and the lawyer paid her off to keep her mouth shut, but there are several possibilities.

1) The Donald did it and the lawyer paid her off so as not to upset the campaign.

2) The Donald DID NOT do it, but they were worried the woman might mouth off and make people believe that he did do it with her, so damage control went info effect.

3) The lawyer was the one doing her, but when she saw that Donald was running for President, and since he was the lawyer she saw potential for Big money, and he knew he'd have to cover it all up so that nobody got exposed.

4) Neither one of them had sex with her, and Donald just wanted to help her pay some bills because he is a generous, benevolent man that helps out people in distress. Seriously he has done this for people. I said earlier she may have needed money for medical bills, a family member or whatever, and he just wanted to help out with out a media circus occurring. This is POSSIBLE.






Gina,

It's Valentines Day; not April Fools Day. You are actually presenting those scenarios as a joke, right?

I'm going to go with #4 because Donald is a compassionate man & altruistic. Can't find an individual with better values & character. If you don't believe me, then just ask Mike Pence.

As incredible #'s 2-4 are, I must say it's refreshing to at least see the truth listed... in the #1 spot even.

It's common a Trump supporter won't acknowledge the truth as being even a possibility.


gina - 2/15/2018 at 07:05 PM

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It's indicative how morally lacking this president is when he had an extramarital affair with a porn star, basically during his honeymoon period with his new wife, then pays her off during the campaign in 2016, and all anyone cares about is where the payoff money came from.

Everyone but Melania that is.

I wonder if Melania started threatening divorce if they would pay her off too.


How do you know which one of them (the lawyer or the Prez) had their hands in her cookie jar? Just sayin'.. I know it looks like the Donald was guilty and the lawyer paid her off to keep her mouth shut, but there are several possibilities.

1) The Donald did it and the lawyer paid her off so as not to upset the campaign.

2) The Donald DID NOT do it, but they were worried the woman might mouth off and make people believe that he did do it with her, so damage control went info effect.

3) The lawyer was the one doing her, but when she saw that Donald was running for President, and since he was the lawyer she saw potential for Big money, and he knew he'd have to cover it all up so that nobody got exposed.

4) Neither one of them had sex with her, and Donald just wanted to help her pay some bills because he is a generous, benevolent man that helps out people in distress. Seriously he has done this for people. I said earlier she may have needed money for medical bills, a family member or whatever, and he just wanted to help out with out a media circus occurring. This is POSSIBLE.






Gina,

It's Valentines Day; not April Fools Day. You are actually presenting those scenarios as a joke, right?

I'm going to go with #4 because Donald is a compassionate man & altruistic. Can't find an individual with better values & character. If you don't believe me, then just ask Mike Pence.


I'm just saying they are possibilities, the whole thing makes him look guilty, but just because someone looks guilty does not mean that they are. Celebrities pay people off all the time because it is easier than having bad media attention, investigations etc. Look at what Clinton went thru with Monica; now in that instance he was guilty, but it was such a circus over that it was off the charts.

Would the public have been able to accept it if he just said at the beginning of it, look I did it, I'm sorry, I won't do it again, I did not spill any national security secrets okay? No he had to try to hide it and go thru so much because of an indiscretion that should not have happened but did. I think it should have just been between him and the woman, his dick is HIS business, not everybody elses. He was probably doing it after his regular business day, so he wasn't doing it on taxpayer time.


LeafontheWind - 2/15/2018 at 08:08 PM

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I think it should have just been between him and the woman, his dick is HIS business, not everybody elses. He was probably doing it after his regular business day, so he wasn't doing it on taxpayer time.

Mulligan!

You know who didn't need mulligans was Obama....


MartinD28 - 2/16/2018 at 12:29 AM

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It's indicative how morally lacking this president is when he had an extramarital affair with a porn star, basically during his honeymoon period with his new wife, then pays her off during the campaign in 2016, and all anyone cares about is where the payoff money came from.

Everyone but Melania that is.

I wonder if Melania started threatening divorce if they would pay her off too.


How do you know which one of them (the lawyer or the Prez) had their hands in her cookie jar? Just sayin'.. I know it looks like the Donald was guilty and the lawyer paid her off to keep her mouth shut, but there are several possibilities.

1) The Donald did it and the lawyer paid her off so as not to upset the campaign.

2) The Donald DID NOT do it, but they were worried the woman might mouth off and make people believe that he did do it with her, so damage control went info effect.

3) The lawyer was the one doing her, but when she saw that Donald was running for President, and since he was the lawyer she saw potential for Big money, and he knew he'd have to cover it all up so that nobody got exposed.

4) Neither one of them had sex with her, and Donald just wanted to help her pay some bills because he is a generous, benevolent man that helps out people in distress. Seriously he has done this for people. I said earlier she may have needed money for medical bills, a family member or whatever, and he just wanted to help out with out a media circus occurring. This is POSSIBLE.






Gina,

It's Valentines Day; not April Fools Day. You are actually presenting those scenarios as a joke, right?

I'm going to go with #4 because Donald is a compassionate man & altruistic. Can't find an individual with better values & character. If you don't believe me, then just ask Mike Pence.


I'm just saying they are possibilities, the whole thing makes him look guilty, but just because someone looks guilty does not mean that they are. Celebrities pay people off all the time because it is easier than having bad media attention, investigations etc. Look at what Clinton went thru with Monica; now in that instance he was guilty, but it was such a circus over that it was off the charts.

Would the public have been able to accept it if he just said at the beginning of it, look I did it, I'm sorry, I won't do it again, I did not spill any national security secrets okay? No he had to try to hide it and go thru so much because of an indiscretion that should not have happened but did. I think it should have just been between him and the woman, his dick is HIS business, not everybody elses. He was probably doing it after his regular business day, so he wasn't doing it on taxpayer time.


Gina - How many celebrities do you personally know? Of these, how many do you factually know have paid off someone to avoid media attention? If the answer is "none", then you are clearly speculating or throwing theories.

[Edited on 2/16/2018 by MartinD28]


MartinD28 - 2/16/2018 at 12:33 AM

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I think it should have just been between him and the woman, his dick is HIS business, not everybody elses. He was probably doing it after his regular business day, so he wasn't doing it on taxpayer time.

Mulligan!

You know who didn't need mulligans was Obama....


That's because he had to walk a straight line and be a good guy since Trump exposed Obama as not having a legit brith ctf. He could have been deported at any point in time. Just lucky Obama made it through 8 years. When Trump's investigators down in Hawaii release the findings, hang on for deportation hearings.


OriginalGoober - 2/16/2018 at 02:08 AM

Wowwieeee, banging a porn star. I think i saw this on a square on the boardgame of Life. However , you had to spin to determine the number of weeks you had crabs.


LeafontheWind - 2/16/2018 at 02:22 AM

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Wowwieeee, banging a porn star. I think i saw this on a square on the boardgame of Life. However , you had to spin to determine the number of weeks you had crabs.

He was newly married. To FLOTUS.

Mulligan!

[Edited on 2/16/2018 by LeafontheWind]


nebish - 2/16/2018 at 02:39 AM

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He was probably doing it after his regular business day, so he wasn't doing it on taxpayer time.


Now that is interesting, exactly when does the President punch in and out on a day's work?

The President is always on the clock, but they have to live their personal lives. Their relationships and sexual desires do not need to end when they take the oath.

Clinton and Trump are womanizers. Bush and Obama are monogamous (I assume). Neither really matters to me. Their personal choices are their own, good, bad or otherwise.


MartinD28 - 2/16/2018 at 01:36 PM

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He was probably doing it after his regular business day, so he wasn't doing it on taxpayer time.


Now that is interesting, exactly when does the President punch in and out on a day's work?

The President is always on the clock, but they have to live their personal lives.


Trump spends as much of his time as possible & taxpayer money generating family money at Mar A Lago. He also spends a significant amount of time daily getting his talking points & policy from the FOX gang each A.M. And who said FOX's Steve Doocy wasn't a policy wonk?


StratDal - 2/16/2018 at 03:30 PM

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Sounds like a tax problem if he didn't claim that payment a gift, I've never seen the itemization for porn star hush-money, Cohen just signaled the IRS for an audit.




That and he's also lying through his teeth covering up for the president.

I really feel for Baron Trump. His father sleeps with women other than his mother and it's all over the media. It's sad for a young child who has to deal with betrayal within his own family.


nebish - 2/16/2018 at 05:11 PM

Martin, feel free to quote anything I say ofcourse, but for the full context I was talking about the sexual wants and needs the President has that we all have. There is what most would consider a "right" way and a "wrong" way to seek and fulfill those desires - but each person makes their own decisions and deals with the personal fallout from it.

Strat mentions Baron, and yes, if my father was in the news about doing these things against my Mom, I can only imagine the kind of feelings I might feel.

You know, on one hand, hey doing a porn star that is kind attractive is kinda cool, I guess. This new story about a Playboy model, that girl is pretty hot. I'm with my wife and I see an attractive woman I make a comment like I would if I was with a guy friend. Not quite the vular 'boy talk' or 'locker room banter' that some might be thinking of. I just say "wow that chic is hot" or something to that effect. All the while I give positive reinforcement to my wife about my affection and feelings towards her and would never betray her. That is what is right, I don't hide my admiration for beautiful women and I don't peruse any of them as well. My wife even comments when a girl has nice boobs or something. Rarely does she comment on other guys, probably because when she has the best...hahahaha

Anyway, Trump is a jerk. This is not a news flash to anyone, except...Gina? If the guy was my Dad, just based on what we all think we know about him, I wouldn't have alot of respect.

On the rest of it Martin, people are keeping score. You know the people that decide elections. The dedicated left will vote one way and the dedicated right will vote the other way and everyone else, they watch.

Is it still "the economy stupid"? Some events and issues supercede others and make other failures or weaknesses forgivable. Time will tell what all the moving pieces in the equation end up to be.

I can't imagine anyone liking the fact the President is setting his policy positions based on Fox & Friends. Or any TV show. I will say that Trump's lack of knowledge or willingness to learn about how things work and why was a major underestimation on my part. So here we are. Next election is in a 990 days. We'll see then.


crazyjoe - 2/16/2018 at 06:19 PM

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Wowwieeee, banging a porn star. I think i saw this on a square on the boardgame of Life. However , you had to spin to determine the number of weeks you had crabs.

He was newly married. To FLOTUS.

Mulligan!

[Edited on 2/16/2018 by LeafontheWind]


To those that feel the Trump should get a pass here. Just wondering if this is how You also conduct Your business and personal affairs? Do You surround Yourself with people who conduct their business and affairs like this? If so You are a sleazy, somewhat immoral character in my book. This type of behaviour compromises our national security, period, it's why they went after Clinton and one of the many valid reasons we should be removing the fraudulent, treasonous and generally disgusting Trump. My guess is that if any of us here conducted ourselves as our leader, we would be quickly divorced, jobless and incarcerated???.......Haha Hahaha "our leader", I made a joke .................Peace...........joe

[Edited on 2/16/2018 by crazyjoe]


MartinD28 - 2/16/2018 at 07:06 PM

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Martin, feel free to quote anything I say ofcourse, but for the full context I was talking about the sexual wants and needs the President has that we all have. There is what most would consider a "right" way and a "wrong" way to seek and fulfill those desires - but each person makes their own decisions and deals with the personal fallout from it.

Strat mentions Baron, and yes, if my father was in the news about doing these things against my Mom, I can only imagine the kind of feelings I might feel.

You know, on one hand, hey doing a porn star that is kind attractive is kinda cool, I guess. This new story about a Playboy model, that girl is pretty hot. I'm with my wife and I see an attractive woman I make a comment like I would if I was with a guy friend. Not quite the vular 'boy talk' or 'locker room banter' that some might be thinking of. I just say "wow that chic is hot" or something to that effect. All the while I give positive reinforcement to my wife about my affection and feelings towards her and would never betray her. That is what is right, I don't hide my admiration for beautiful women and I don't peruse any of them as well. My wife even comments when a girl has nice boobs or something. Rarely does she comment on other guys, probably because when she has the best...hahahaha

Anyway, Trump is a jerk. This is not a news flash to anyone, except...Gina? If the guy was my Dad, just based on what we all think we know about him, I wouldn't have alot of respect.

On the rest of it Martin, people are keeping score. You know the people that decide elections. The dedicated left will vote one way and the dedicated right will vote the other way and everyone else, they watch.

Is it still "the economy stupid"? Some events and issues supercede others and make other failures or weaknesses forgivable. Time will tell what all the moving pieces in the equation end up to be.

I can't imagine anyone liking the fact the President is setting his policy positions based on Fox & Friends. Or any TV show. I will say that Trump's lack of knowledge or willingness to learn about how things work and why was a major underestimation on my part. So here we are. Next election is in a 990 days. We'll see then.


Several points follow:

I do believe it is fair to scrutinize the sexual escapades of the leader of the free world - be it Clinton or Trump. Clinton has been discussed for many many years now. Trump is current and relevant to 2018. He's a pig. One can only wonder what FLOTUS thinks with all the accusation from 21 women of his groping as well as the porn star who seems soon to talk. I think the PR is fair game to examine and find the religious types hypocrites to turn an eye.

I do feel sorry for his youngest son. He deserves better.

I don't think the economy any longer is the main driving force for votes with the every day escapades of a reality TV show operating on Pennsylvania Ave. Each day seems to bring more incompetence & calamity than the prior day. What we've seen in special elections and heavy turnout for special elections flipping many seats GOP to Dem is a macro referendum on "Trump the Whole" or maybe "Trump The A$$hole". Either way, the pattern & momentum appears to have shifted to a dose of reality of how bad Trump is for America. I do expect the pattern to continue into the 2018 elections. There is a reason so many GOP Congressmen are retiring with the handwriting on the wall. They may have been fools to go along with such a novice and divisive "leader", but they are not so stupid to think they can survive the inevitable of being ousted.


OriginalGoober - 2/16/2018 at 07:11 PM

Joe, that's a high moral bar. What are thoughts about Former Pres John and Sen. Ted Kennedy? Are they ok?


2112 - 2/16/2018 at 08:04 PM

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Joe, that's a high moral bar. What are thoughts about Former Pres John and Sen. Ted Kennedy? Are they ok?


I'm 51, and now we're deflecting to talk about a president who died before I was born. Wow!

Personally I think Larry Flint has a better set of moral values than Trump.


emr - 2/16/2018 at 09:36 PM

my few takes

1 - Happened before he was President. Doesn't jeopardize govt.

2 - For all the crap Melania gets she seems more outraged than Hillary was. She may not have the courage to go after the Donald but at least she isn't publically denouncing the woman.

3 - For those of you too young to remember the Kennedy Brothers man oh man. The baby Ted drove his girlfriend to her death over a bridge in his drunken state. Didn't report it till the next day "due to shock." JFK was banging women in the closets of the white house. Supposedly he and Bobby were concurrently banging Marilyn Monroe at the same time as a notorious Mafia Chieftain (talk about compromising security.) Imagine today if someone brought out a drunken/drugged actress to sing Happy Birthday to her president boyfriend at a public affair?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y74oWon5VTo

4 - I don't behave this way; don't approve. But what someone does in their private time is between them their spouse and their maker. Unless it affects their duties it is just fodder for talk.

5 - f**k this and enact gun control for semi automatic weapons


gina - 2/17/2018 at 07:21 PM

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Wowwieeee, banging a porn star. I think i saw this on a square on the boardgame of Life. However , you had to spin to determine the number of weeks you had crabs.

He was newly married. To FLOTUS.

Mulligan!

[Edited on 2/16/2018 by LeafontheWind]


To those that feel the Trump should get a pass here. Just wondering if this is how You also conduct Your business and personal affairs? Do You surround Yourself with people who conduct their business and affairs like this? If so You are a sleazy, somewhat immoral character in my book. This type of behaviour compromises our national security, period, it's why they went after Clinton and one of the many valid reasons we should be removing the fraudulent, treasonous and generally disgusting Trump. My guess is that if any of us here conducted ourselves as our leader, we would be quickly divorced, jobless and incarcerated???.......Haha Hahaha "our leader", I made a joke .................Peace...........joe

[Edited on 2/16/2018 by crazyjoe]


I do not agree with nor endorse this type of behavior, but I do not think it jeopardizes national security when a President does it because he is within the confines of a secure place and he is not talking about missile codes when he is involved with it. Wherever it takes place, the women come and go, they are authorized to be there so people know they are there so they are not roaming around on their own. People also would see them leave because these Presidents are married and usually have wives living there who would know if he was out all night with someone else. If he's doing it in the daytime, well he has a schedule of things to do, and so would the woman, it's like any other afternoon hook up, much like what happens in major cities in the wealthy business districts. You see it all the time. They get together for sex and then go about their other business. This is the world.

The secret service people who hire prostitutes and have their briefcases with Presidential itinerary in the room CAN compromise national security, additionally if there was an emergency it would take them longer to get their clothes on and be on the job.


cyclone88 - 2/21/2018 at 12:40 PM

Historically, presidents aren't faithful to their wives going back to the slave-owning early ones. [Jefferson gets a pass I suppose because he was a widower.]

As a young voter (18, 22), I thought the known philanderer was likely to be less respectful of women's/human rights. I no longer think that's true. I think what goes on in a marriage is likely to be what is palatable to both of them and none of the public's business. Johnson, after all, is credited with getting the Civil Rights Act done.

I do think Mrs. Trump is in an exceptional position in that she didn't expect her husband to WIN. However, she stands to gain nothing from divorcing him (her prenup wasn't re-written for her to get a bonus to stay thru the White House years) so she stays. Her not-so-subtle signs of displeasure such as swatting his hand away and scowling make HER look childish. HE hasn't changed. He has never been nor is he likely to be faithful to a wife and he demands prenups that leave them w/very little compared to their current lifestyle. He coughs up child support because he has to and Marla Maples (who is currently begging to be on the reality TV show Real Housewives of New York despite living in CA for $100,000/season) could probably enlighten us all on his stinginess.

He's a misogynist. That's the least of his flaws.


StratDal - 3/7/2018 at 02:06 PM

Maybe Mr. Cohen shouldn't have been so generous after all.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/politics/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-lawsuit /index.html


gina - 3/9/2018 at 01:18 AM

What does she want to gain from telling the world her story? Or maybe the question is how much $$$ does she want for her story? I don't think there will be a movie of epic proportions to come out of this like Gone With the Wind, so why doesn't she just do the talk show circuit, she already was on Jimmy Kimmel live.

Maybe someone of a democratic persuasion is paying her big money to do this. I recall a prophecy from last year that the democrats would parade 8 women out from January and into the 2018 claiming to have had sexual harassment or relations with Trump.


StratDal - 3/12/2018 at 10:04 PM

Well it looks like Mr. Cohen might have a few more pennies in his pocket...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/stormy-daniels-payment-return/index .html


gina - 3/12/2018 at 11:03 PM

She must have received more $$$ from the Democrats to come forward with this allegation.


2112 - 3/13/2018 at 12:05 AM

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She must have received more $$$ from the Democrats to come forward with this allegation.




I seriously doubt the Democrats paid her anything. The election is long over, smearing Trump this far from the next election isn't going to do anything, and besides, Trump fans and even the religious right have shown that they don't care, as long as he stayed anti-abortion is all they care about.

My guess is that she got a good offer for a book deal. Clearly a book by her on her affair with Trump will be a best seller, and it will up her name recognition for whatever future endeavors she has in mind.


gina - 3/20/2018 at 07:30 PM

Mr. Cohen may need a raise for the the work that is coming.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/20/former-apprentice-contestant-can-sue-trump-fo r-defamation/

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/379341-ex-playboy-model-who-alle ges-affair-with-trump-sues-to-be-able-to-be


Remember when I told you it was prophecized that 8 woman would be coming out to claim they had affairs with Trump? Daniels is #1, now here are 2 more. There are supposed to be a total of 8 women who come out.


gina - 3/24/2018 at 03:13 PM

60 Minutes is airing the interview that Anderson Cooper did with Stormy Daniels tomorrow nite.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/24/stormy-daniels-donald-trump -porn-star-tv

It is interesting to note she had considered running for the Senate. Also NBC reported yesterday that there is a CD in a safe, could be video of any of the alleged encounters.

As to who is behind this coming out, I think we get a hint of that from this from the above cited article.


"And Daniels is not alone. Another adult film star, Jessica Drake, who accused Trump of trying to buy sex from her, claims she also has “confidential information” about Trump’s relationship with Daniels, according to a 2016 non-disclosure agreement or NDA.

On Tuesday, the former Playboy model Karen McDougal became the second woman this month to challenge Trump’s efforts to silence her, announcing she was suing the president to be released from a 2016 legal agreement that restricted her ability to speak about her alleged affair with the future president.

Separately, a judge this month ruled that a defamation suit brought by former Apprentice star Summer Zervos, who accused Trump of harassing her, may go forward, clearing the path for other sexual misconduct allegations against the president to be aired.

"It is settled that the president of the United States has no immunity and is ‘subject to the laws’ for purely private acts,” the judge declared, citing the precedent set by a lawsuit brought against Bill Clinton by his alleged mistress Paula Jones two decades ago. "


Is this payback (from the deep state) for the nasty Presidential debate where Trump had some of those who accused Bill Clinton of impropriety in the audience, remember that debate?

I saw an interview Stormy did with Jimmy Kimmell. His questions were very well written, and she answered one of them without directly answering it. She was smart and charming with her demeanor. Sunday night should be interesting. Did they sent Anderson Cooper to do the interview because he is gay? So there would not be any possibility of any sexual harassment going on? One can only wonder what kind of commentary Andy Rooney would have had about his situation.






gina - 3/24/2018 at 03:24 PM

"In a filing joined by Trump, Cohen had Clifford's lawsuit moved from California state court to federal court. Court papers say their goal is to push the dispute back into private arbitration and collect $20 million in damages from Clifford."


https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/stormy-daniels-to-trump-organizatio n-hold-onto-your-records/ar-BBKzWW2

https://www.inquisitr.com/4837083/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-subpoena/

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/sd-stormy-daniels-trump-alana-e vans-san-diego-20180320-htmlstory.html

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/new-details-emerge-surrounding-trum ps-stormy-daniels-controversy

"Slate’s Jacob Weisberg, meanwhile, published a detailed account yesterday about his own work on the story, including a series of phone conversations and text exchanges he had with Daniels between August and October of 2016.

Daniels told me she’d gone to Trump’s hotel room after meeting him at a celebrity golf tournament in Nevada in 2006. There they’d begun a sexual relationship, which continued for nearly a year. […]

In our conversations, Daniels said she was holding back on the juiciest details, such as her ability to describe things about Trump that only someone who had seen him naked would know…. Daniels said she had some corroborating evidence, including the phone numbers of Trump’s longtime personal assistant Rhona Graff and his bodyguard Keith Schiller, with whom she said she would arrange rendezvous. While she did not share those numbers with me, I did speak to three of Daniels’ friends, all of whom said they knew about the affair at the time, and all of whom confirmed the outlines of her story."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/did-donald-trump-pay-porn-star- stormy-daniels-to-keep-quiet-about-an-affair.html

Not long after the 2016 Republican National Convention, I got a tip from a friend of mine. An old acquaintance of his in California was close to a woman in the adult-film industry who claimed to have had an affair with Donald Trump.

REMARK: This has gone on since "after the 2016 Republican Convention." SET-UP.

"She didn’t allege any kind of abuse, insisting she was not a victim. The worst Trump had done, she said, was break promises she’d never believed he would fulfill. She claimed he’d offered to buy her a condo in Tampa, Florida, and that he’d said he wanted to feature her as a contestant in an upcoming season of Celebrity Apprentice. Daniels, who is far from naïve, says she did not take him seriously, but Trump had insisted his NBC contract let him do whatever he wanted on the show. Eventually, she said, he’d told her the network wouldn’t allow her on the air because of the objections of an executive’s wife.

Daniels said she had some corroborating evidence, including the phone numbers of Trump’s longtime personal assistant Rhona Graff and his bodyguard Keith Schiller, with whom she said she would arrange rendezvous. While she did not share those numbers with me, I did speak to three of Daniels’ friends, all of whom said they knew about the affair at the time, and all of whom confirmed the outlines of her story."

REMARKS: Subpoena the phone records and verify IF any calls were held between these people whose phone numbers Stormy did not provide, nor her friend who claims Stormy told her of these things.






[Edited on 3/24/2018 by gina]


gina - 3/27/2018 at 10:35 PM

I watched the interview on 60 minutes and many things were apparent to me.

1) Her pupils were very large. Medications like the first generation of antihistamines (circa 1970's) can do that, so can belladonna, so can tranquilizers. Since cortisone is available for allergies, I would think it was from one of the other medications.

2) She says she had an affair, yet now says it was just that one time at the golf tournament that they had sex. An affair is not a one night stand. An affair is more than one date, less than a relationship. Yes she says she saw him a couple of other times in regards to potential busienss deals, but that does not qualify as an affair.

3) She did that CNN interview with Brooke Baldwin and said that during this one night of sex with Trump, she phoned her friend Alana and asked her to come and join them in a threesome, she also says (in the video) that Trump also requested the friend to come. Well the NSA stores ALL phone calls made in this country, it should be easy to prove or disprove if this conversation even happened.

4) Her lawyer is a Democrat and respresented Democratic interests.

5) She started her search to tell her story AFTER the Republican convention. Yes she was paid $130,000 but tht does NOT mean it was hush money. It seems more like quiet any controversy that could be distracting to voters money.

6) She waits from 2006 - 2007 till NOW, ten to twelve years later to come forth? Someone else is pulling the strings to make this happen.

7) The Playboy model who came forward was also paid off, $150,000 prior to Stormy's payout.

8) She said in the Intouch interview that the Golf club was selling her porno video and that Trump had bought a copy and wanted her to sign it? That can be refuted. Contact the gift store at the club and find out if they ever did that.

Impression: She is in trouble, owes someone big money or a big favor and they have made it clear if she does not do what they want her to do, they will ruin her, her life. When they talk about "in kind" campaign and election interference, interfering with an election, it seems pretty clear who is behind this. They could not impeach him over Russia and collusion because there was none; but they could impeach him over trying to influence a presidential campaign and that is what they are going for. It's the GROUP, the one that did not want him to become President, the same old people still at it.

Stormy should seek political asylum in another country and just get out of here. That is what would be best for her.


2112 - 3/28/2018 at 12:24 AM

Gina - Why can't you ever accept the obvious? All of the other Trump supporters have accepted the fact that Trump cheated on his wife with Stormy Davis and moved on to the argument that it doesn't matter. You can pick your reason why it doesn't matter (happened 10 years ago before he was president; if his wife doesn't care than why should anyone else; or my favorite - Clinton and JFK did it too). You seem to be the last person on the planet to not accept the obvious. Time to pick your favorite - it doesn't matter because...- argument and move on. Even Trump has been quiet on Twitter and stopped the denials.


nebish - 3/28/2018 at 01:28 AM

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1) Her pupils were very large.


Strange that was the first thing I noticed on her close-up. Under the kind of lighting they had I found it strange, Anderson had normally dilated pupils. Just a rare moment of observant confluence by Gina and myself. I didn't or don't try to understand or explain it, girl just had some big eyes going.


cyclone88 - 3/28/2018 at 02:48 AM

Stormy has the better lawyer - good tactic to file for defamation against Cohen. He'll be fired and possibly disbarred by the time this all dies down.

My favorite theory is that the sexcapades is Trump's idea to distract voters from "my button is bigger than yours," the Dow, trade, immigration, and other topics about which voters could and should be having serious discussions. Instead, the headlines are T's sex life. His prowess and use/non-use of condoms hasn't made this many headlines since Marla declared him in the NY Post to be "The Best Lover I Ever Had." He loves that stuff.


2112 - 3/28/2018 at 05:53 AM

quote:
quote:
1) Her pupils were very large.


Strange that was the first thing I noticed on her close-up. Under the kind of lighting they had I found it strange, Anderson had normally dilated pupils. Just a rare moment of observant confluence by Gina and myself. I didn't or don't try to understand or explain it, girl just had some big eyes going.


Strange - I just recently was reading this article about Trump’s intermittent large pupils. It goes through all the possible reasons. The same reasons could apply to her:

https://medium.com/@DrGJackBrown/body-language-and-medical-analysis-4221-wh y-are-donald-trumps-pupils-intermittently-so-large-f4d883c8126a


nebish - 3/28/2018 at 05:45 PM

quote:

Strange - I just recently was reading this article about Trump’s intermittent large pupils. It goes through all the possible reasons. The same reasons could apply to her:

https://medium.com/@DrGJackBrown/body-language-and-medical-analysis-4221-wh y-are-donald-trumps-pupils-intermittently-so-large-f4d883c8126a


Wow that article goes into quite the examination and hypothesising. When you are President everyone is going to critically look at everything. Not sure why anyone would really want to subject themselves to all this scrutiny.


cyclone88 - 3/28/2018 at 06:43 PM

quote:
Wow that article goes into quite the examination and hypothesising. When you are President everyone is going to critically look at everything. Not sure why anyone would really want to subject themselves to all this scrutiny.


I still believe T just wanted to WIN. He never actually wanted to BE president - especially after he found out it didn't mean dictator. He would have been happy enough to have won the nomination (blaming the loss of the presidency on someone else) and gone back to his corrupt crumbling empire and not answering to anyone.


2112 - 3/28/2018 at 06:46 PM

quote:
quote:

Strange - I just recently was reading this article about Trump’s intermittent large pupils. It goes through all the possible reasons. The same reasons could apply to her:

https://medium.com/@DrGJackBrown/body-language-and-medical-analysis-4221-wh y-are-donald-trumps-pupils-intermittently-so-large-f4d883c8126a


Wow that article goes into quite the examination and hypothesising. When you are President everyone is going to critically look at everything. Not sure why anyone would really want to subject themselves to all this scrutiny.


I agree with you, but in today's world anyone on the news sets them self up for scrutiny. Anyone who accuses a politician of something is immediately threatened. Just look at survivors from the school shooting. The minute they talk about it they are called actors or communists or stupid or whatever. All they are doing is giving an opinion based on surviving a tramatic event, and yet they are dragged through the coals. Welcome to today's America.


gina - 4/4/2018 at 10:08 PM

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quote:
Wow that article goes into quite the examination and hypothesising. When you are President everyone is going to critically look at everything. Not sure why anyone would really want to subject themselves to all this scrutiny.


I still believe T just wanted to WIN. He never actually wanted to BE president - especially after he found out it didn't mean dictator. He would have been happy enough to have won the nomination (blaming the loss of the presidency on someone else) and gone back to his corrupt crumbling empire and not answering to anyone.


He wanted to win, he just did not think it would actually happen. He has a very good understanding of the biggest task he faces and he has said that he was willing to die to stop the globalists of the Deep State from implementing their agenda which includes erasing the sovereignty or our national borders, destroying our Constitution, creating that one world government which ultimately will have a very evil person at the helm running the world. He understands all that. He knows he was chosen to stop them. I do not agree with all his ideas but at least he is trying.


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