Thread: MLB 2018 - Boston Red Stockings?

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StratDal - 2/13/2018 at 02:35 PM

Maybe for MLB 2018

My wife is the baseball fan in the family and she's been counting the days. Go Giants! (Can't get any worse than last season.)


IPowrie - 2/13/2018 at 04:03 PM

Should be excited but it is hard when your team is going to suck. Anyway's go Tigers


Sang - 2/13/2018 at 06:38 PM

You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


porkchopbob - 2/13/2018 at 09:15 PM

Hoping the Brewers build on last season.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:06 PM

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You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


And maybe, just maybe you could take sarcasm to a lower level. Oh wait! I wouldn't want you to give up your only redeeming quality.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:08 PM

And how are your White Sux going to do this year? Probably battling it out for last place with the Tiggers I would guess.

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Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:15 PM

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Maybe for MLB 2018

My wife is the baseball fan in the family and she's been counting the days. Go Giants! (Can't get any worse than last season.)



They made some good moves in the off season. Beefed up the outfield which was a mess last year. And if they take away Bumgarner's motorcycle they might have a shot. Idiot.

Hey, it's an even number year. They seem to do well in this spot.

They have the 8th highest odds of winning it all. Better than rooting for my Tiggers.


Lee - 2/15/2018 at 01:30 PM

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Hoping the Brewers build on last season.


Haven't heard the nuts and bolts of what happened but they should have signed Darvish. So the Cubs got him for next to nothing. They are so afraid of the Cubs that they basically banned Chicago fans from the pre sale to get tickets there.

I live in Chicago and couldn't buy tickets. They know by your zip code and will block you.

Clever folks up in Wisconsin.


Sang - 2/15/2018 at 07:15 PM

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Clever folks up in Wisconsin.





There's something you never hear..........


Sang - 2/16/2018 at 01:25 AM

Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


Sang - 2/16/2018 at 01:25 AM

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You can edit the first post and change the title to 2018 Lee - unless you, as a Tiger's fan, enjoy living in the past.....


And maybe, just maybe you could take sarcasm to a lower level. Oh wait! I wouldn't want you to give up your only redeeming quality.




Thanks for noticing...........


Lee - 2/16/2018 at 11:59 AM

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Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


I seem to recall that. Couldn't pay someone to see the Black Hawks now.

I hadn't heard this before but my best friend from Michigan said this is not uncommon for college football games. Trying to make sure locals get tickets. Kind of a silly idea IMO. Kind of easy to buy a ticket for anything online.

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Lee - 3/18/2018 at 11:42 AM

I am going to Florida in April. Going to see The Rays. Never been there. Really looking forward to it. They are playing the Minnesota Twinkies.


emr - 3/18/2018 at 02:44 PM

My giants did make some good moves; but it remains to be seen if their style of play can be revived or if it’s the equivalent to Phil Jackson’s triangle offense.

Otherwise 2/3 of the way into the season they (yikes) trade madbum to a contender in exchange for a ton of prospects. Then posey goes. Then I root for 2021


Sang - 3/18/2018 at 06:21 PM

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Same thing happens in Nashville - they don't let Blackhawk fans get tickets because it was a sea of red jerseys there........


I seem to recall that. Couldn't pay someone to see the Black Hawks now.

I hadn't heard this before but my best friend from Michigan said this is not uncommon for college football games. Trying to make sure locals get tickets. Kind of a silly idea IMO. Kind of easy to buy a ticket for anything online.

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Except in Nashville they wouldn't let you buy online with an out of state address..... they also sold the tickets as packages - you couldn't just buy a ticket to the Blackhawks game - it was combined with another home game.....

But you're right - doesn't matter this year.....


emr - 3/24/2018 at 10:04 PM

MADBUM broke his hand. Probably wont be till June/July till we know if there are long term effects.

The Giants are through. Looking like adding salary to win might be a bad decision.

Fire sale to start later


Lee - 3/24/2018 at 10:31 PM

That sucks. Now they need to fill a hole in their rotation. And right before the season starts.


emr - 3/24/2018 at 11:05 PM

MADBUM is irreplaceable and the Giants already have the second highest payroll behind the Bosox. This one isn't fixable. They made their offseason moves with the hopes of one more title run. I see no options except wholesale dismantling.

My family waited from 1954 t0 2010. We have patience


Lee - 3/25/2018 at 12:00 PM

No idea what their Triple A system looks like but they obviously have to come up with something.


Lee - 3/25/2018 at 12:33 PM

Four days until Opening Day!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 09:34 AM

Yay Opening Day! Go Tiggers!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 09:36 AM

Here are my bets for this season:

Dodgers: Yasiel Puig over 80.5 RBI's

Cubs: Kyle Schwarber under 29.5 HRs

Cubs: Anthony Rizzo under 99.5 RBI's

Cubs: Total wins under 94.5

Orioles: Manny Machado under 99.5 RBI's

Orioles: Manny Machado will he get traded during the season. I say no.

Orioles: Adam Jones over 80.5 RBI's

Giants: Johnny Cueto over 12.5 wins

Red Sox: Mookie Betts under 100.5 runs scored

D Backs: Paul Goldschmidt under 105.5 RBI's

Tigers: Total wins over 68.5

Brewers: Took them to win the NL Central

Indians: Picked them to win the World Series


Lot of stuff to keep straight. Good thing I am not a betting man!


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Lee - 3/29/2018 at 11:24 AM

I took Cueto as I think maybe, just perhaps, he'll get an extra start or two with Bumgarner out a couple months. Not saying they will go to a four man rotation like the good 'ol days but ya never know. As I've already said they fortified their lineup. Should bode well for the games they play although losing their best pitcher can't help their season long chances.

Plus they have to play the Dodgers 10 times in their first 40 games I think it is.

If they can survive that, who knows?


funkyfitter - 3/29/2018 at 02:24 PM

Here's hoping that the Phillies build on the momentum they had going on the second half of last year !


StratDal - 3/29/2018 at 04:52 PM

Here's to Chavez "Latrine"!

http://abc7.com/sports/dodger-stadium-repairs-underway-after-sewage-spill/3 275367/

Go Giants!


Lee - 3/29/2018 at 05:49 PM

RIP Rusty Staub. Great player and even a better person.


emr - 3/31/2018 at 02:17 PM

re: Rusty.

all true; also a great cook. When I lived in NYC c 1980 Tuesday (I think it was Tues) nights rib special at his namesake Restaurant saw my friends and me on a regular basis. Used to have a yearly charity rib eating contest. Usually won by the likes of Willis Reed.One year Brook Shields won (who would of thunk.)

and re: who would have thunk. My Giants beat the Dodgers twice by a 1-0 score on Panik solo homers. Took the claw down


Lee - 4/3/2018 at 06:30 PM

Washington & Pittsburgh, only undefeated teams. Nats don't surprise me but the Bucs do.


Lee - 4/3/2018 at 08:44 PM

Boy the weather in The Midwest & East Coast is brutal for baseball. Games getting snowed out and such. I am going to the Tigers / White Sox game at Comiskey Saturday and I think the temp is going to be in the upper thirties. Doubt we will make it all. There is an enclosed bar in right field.


Lee - 4/4/2018 at 08:48 PM

Got my tickets today for the Cubs / Tigers game at Wrigley in July.

And going to the White Sox / Tigers game at Comiskey Saturday if they don't call it. Snowed here last night.


Lee - 4/6/2018 at 10:16 AM

Going to the Tigers / White Sox game at Comiskey tomorrow. High temp of 39 degrees.


Stephen - 4/6/2018 at 03:33 PM

I can't believe that eagle landed on the OF's shoulder -- that guy coulda been seriously maimed if its talons were out or got aggressive -- guess it was supposed to land on the mound where its human 'handler' was -- c'mon Sox, let's fly like an eagle


Lee - 4/7/2018 at 11:24 AM

Maybe the eagle wasn't named Steve Miller.


Lee - 4/8/2018 at 11:19 AM

Froze at Comiskey yesterday. Thought about going today. $5 cheapest tickets but I don't want to freeze again.

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Stephen - 4/9/2018 at 03:14 PM

ChiSox & Cubs in dueling home matinees today, what's up w/that -- then the big-slugging (yawn) Bomb-ers here tmrw


Jerry - 4/10/2018 at 12:47 AM

Watched the Rockies opener with the Braves. Everybody was bundled up completely, only eyes were exposed and it was hard to tell who was who except by their position on the field and name on back of the jersey.
The announcers kept giving the temp from the scoreboard and I never heard it go above freezing, add to that the wind blowing across the snow on the field.
Some of time it looked as if the Michelin Man was at bat.

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Lee - 4/10/2018 at 06:30 PM

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ChiSox & Cubs in dueling home matinees today, what's up w/that -- then the big-slugging (yawn) Bomb-ers here tmrw


It happens. Not often but usually a couple times a season. Regarding the games yesterday, there was more snow up on the north side where I live so I think the Sox had a better chance to clear the field. There's quite a bit of snow up here not far from Wrigley.


Lee - 4/13/2018 at 01:34 PM

Went to the Cubs game yesterday. Temperature was about 70-72 degrees at game time. All of the sudden in the 3rd or 4th inning the temp dropped probably 20-25 degrees in a matter of seconds. Never experienced anything like it. Crowd was kinda sparse to begin with but when the temp dropped the place started to clear out big time.

Plus the Cubs got smoked anyway.


Lee - 4/13/2018 at 08:18 PM

Flubs scored once yesterday and they are getting shut out today. Their hitting is as bad as the Tigers. Tough rooting for them at this point but the Cubs should be doing better.


Lee - 4/15/2018 at 10:09 AM

What a game at Wrigley. A comedy of errors. The Braves must feel sick. Everything that could have gone wrong for them did. It was fun to watch though.

Unless you are a Braves fan.


DanB - 4/15/2018 at 01:45 PM

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What a game at Wrigley. A comedy of errors. The Braves must feel sick. Everything that could have gone wrong for them did. It was fun to watch though.

Unless you are a Braves fan.


my son are and I were stunned

it looked like rec ball team


Lee - 4/16/2018 at 07:47 PM

I realize it's only April but watching the A.L. Central it appears the White Sux and Tiggers are already jockeying for last place.


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 04:45 PM

With this weather, I think the season might end in December.


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 04:50 PM

We get our 1st look at phenom Shohei Ohtani & streaking Angels tonite, countering w/David -- Xander is about a week away -- Mookie (foot) & Hanley (HBP) fine -- Dustin will be back next month -- JBJ will heat up w/weather at plate, he's the game's best outfielder
you are never forgotten, Felix Pappalardi


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 05:00 PM

What is JBJ?


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 05:06 PM

Jackie Bradley Jr. -- he made one of his awesome catches Sat in RF


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 05:12 PM

Oh. They haven't been the same since Yaz retired.


emr - 4/17/2018 at 05:32 PM

So Bryce (Roy Hobbs) Harper hits a 406 ft homer while his bat snapped in half. I think the kid has some talent


Stephen - 4/17/2018 at 10:21 PM

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CHICAGO -- Cubs first baseman Anthony Rizzo is advocating for a shorter season, even if that means a smaller paycheck for players.

"I think we play too much baseball," Rizzo said Tuesday during his weekly appearance on ESPN 1000. "Yes, guys are going to take pay cuts. But are we playing this game for the money or do we love this game? I know it's both, but in the long run it will make everything better."

Rizzo believes a transition period with guaranteed contracts could be worked out, perhaps "grandfathering" them into a new system with new contracts reflecting fewer games played.
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agree w/this, the season is too long -- shorten spring training, let players work out offseason kinks in 1st few weeks of season -- might help to begin bring outrageous salaries back in line w/reality, also possibly reduce the # of injuries that sideline so many of them


Lee - 4/17/2018 at 11:11 PM

I would rather have these bad weather games in April than during the playoffs. This has gone on for decades. I remember going to games as a kid when it was snowing so I don't really think this is anything all that new.


Lee - 4/18/2018 at 10:21 AM

Going to the Tampa / Minnesota game Friday night. It will be my third game in three different stadiums in two weeks. Can't say I've ever done that before.


Stephen - 4/18/2018 at 04:15 PM

The bottom of the order did it (obviously Mookie too) -- a combined 7 hits in 13 AB, 5 runs, 5 RBI -- Sawx 10, Calif LA Angels 1 -- blister or no, phenom or no, we were gonna hit whoever was out there --

JBJ, 5-2-3-2
have a running friendly bet (ovr last 2-3 yrs or so) that Jackie in his career will win the triple crown w/a Carl-in-1967 type of season -- he has it in him -- already the consensus top OF in MLB

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BIGV - 4/19/2018 at 01:48 AM

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agree w/this, the season is too long


Bring back Saturday & Sunday Doubleheaders!


Lee - 4/19/2018 at 11:53 AM

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agree w/this, the season is too long


Bring back Saturday & Sunday Doubleheaders!


I've thought that for a long time. Often they have to reschedule games in a day night doubleheader anyway so why not just schedule a few ahead of time anyway? The MLB will still get two gates for the cash.


Lee - 4/24/2018 at 07:14 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/pete-roses-estranged-wife-claims-hes-major-debt-du e-high-stakes-gambling-213326581.html


Stephen - 4/26/2018 at 06:56 PM

It's not just the Sixiz
no, cracks & all the Liberty Bell is ringing loud & proud nowadays -- Eagles & Villanova won -- 2 years after winning a mere 10 games, Process products Simmons, masked-marvel Embiid & 6ers are scary

....& just a year after the embarrassment of 2017 (30 games under .500)
....sure enough, it's contagious in Phila as Phillies, yes the PHILLIES, have started fast

Blight for Phans tho -- they booed Phlyiz during Pitts series -- that's outta school, something alluded to by Claude Giroux in an article circulating on espn.com -- it's no disgrace to get beat by the 2-time champions

it's early yet but sevrl teams, Cincy, SD, Miami, Tex, Balt others, are already near wait-til-next-year mode -- ChiSox & KC would be but are in weak div -- they play each other this wknd, likely w/few paying customers on hand --

reported attendance was 10G at ChiSox-Seattle game -- AP report had it at "an estimated 2,000" --
Bummer of a summer in store on the south side, esp their bullpen -- watta name for a reliever-going-bad -- Yoan, however, is heating up in a big way -- mayb this will be the year the potential everyone has always raved about, will finally happen

Xander back tmrw, Dustin next month -- we haven't yet played our best ball, same is true for many teams/hitters -- we gotta make this fast start count at least into all star break -- let's go Sox


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Lee - 5/4/2018 at 10:36 AM

Pujols almost to 3,000 hits.


Lee - 5/9/2018 at 07:54 PM

Are the Red Sux still in first place all by themselves?


Stephen - 5/10/2018 at 04:37 PM

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didn't know -- susPECted but didn't Know -- they'd turn into a marauding juggernaut running rampant in same fashion as their 1990s teams w/Jeter. their 70s teams w/Reggie -- Didi G. & G. Sanchez are to their 2 sluggers, what Tom Tresh & Joe Pepitone were to Mantle & Maris........& so forth

the Murderers Row they ain't, however -- We're Right There With Em -- Hanley & JBJ, Mitch Moreland & Nunez coming off the bench, Sandy & Christian starting to hit, Pedey back next week
& we got Xander & Mookie --

One year after missing for "an unspecified elbow injury," David again to sidelines -- Steven Wright might be around somewhere -- NY does have the edge in pitching -- not tonite tho, tied going into wknd -- c'mon Eduard & Sox, salvage one


Lee - 5/10/2018 at 04:48 PM

There was a snippet on ESPN this morning comparing this Yank team to the last time they did this. I think it was in 1953.

Yogi Berra, Jerry Coleman, Billy Martin, Gil McDougald, Johhny Mize, Phil Rizzuto. Hank Bauer, Mickey Mantle. Oh and did I mention Whitey Ford and Allie Reynolds on the mound?

This Yankee team isn't that good but on paper, they sure are good.

Having said that, there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace.


BIGV - 5/11/2018 at 02:49 AM

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Having said that, there's no way the Yanks can keep up the current pace.


I remember the 1984 Tigers Starting the Season at 35-5...and going on to Win 104 Games and a WS Championship.

So, who knows? As much as I dislike the NYY, it's good for Baseball.


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 03:01 AM

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Sure there is -- seeing our starter going lights out holding them to one hit and eight Ks over six innings, we can always yank him outta there & watch the roof fall in --
that's the MLB of today -- it's not about winning, it's about preventing the possibility of injury, as these spoiled multi-millionaires whine, piss & moan their way to the DL for whatever it is they think is ailing them -- frustration to the nines

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Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 04:17 PM

David I guess is going to take his turn tmrw in Tor -- whether or not we can depend on him, who knows -- guessing his carpal tunnel will again kick up this season, but maybe our $217 million man has a few good starts left in him

The headline this morning shouted it out -- "Smith Proving The Answer in Bullpen" -- that is what it takes nowadays -- a multi-year process -- Carson is pitching well after a 2 yr absence -- mayb Tyler Thornburg will too in 2019, he's into the second year of his rehab after missing last season

A tale of 2 veterans -- Justin Verlander, 35 (4-1) vs. Cole Hamels, 34 (1-4) -- Justin has been rejuvenated since joining Houston -- elsewhere, 33-year-old former aces Clay Buccholz and Tim Lincecum are attempting comebacks & in the minor league systems of the D-Backs & Rangers

What about Rafael Palmiero? He too wants to come back, at age 53 -- & why not, he's one of only 6 players w/500 HR and 3,000 hits -- let's go Sox


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emr - 5/11/2018 at 04:26 PM

Re Yanks gleyber is the unknown. Can he keep this up? Except for severino the pitching (starting) is frAgile at best. I don’t like Stanton and Judge in same lineup. Too similar to each other


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 09:50 PM

MAKES SENSE TO ME -- anything to downsize the game & make it more accessible & fan friendly
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Jim Kaat Says 7-inning Games Would Enhance Pitching Staffs, Bring In New Fans

Jim Kaat has been around baseball for most of his 79 years, and he doesn't like what he sees in the game today.

So Kaat, a left-handed pitcher whose MLB career began in 1959 and spanned four decades, offered up a radical plan to improve the sport in The Athletic on Friday.

Seven-inning games.

Katt, who has worked in the broadcast booth since 1986 with the Yankees, Twins, NBC and ESPN, and still does an occasional game for MLB Network, says the league's pace of play rules are not enough -- "a little blip on the screen."

Now a special assistant to the Minnesota Twins, Kaat offered up these arguments for his plan:

• It would restore the importance of starting pitchers: "Go five," Kaat said, "and then turn it over to the setup man and closer."

• It would reduce the size of pitching staffs: "When I broke in, there were 16 teams, eight in each league," Kaat said. "You had basically 10 pitchers on a staff, 160 in all of the major leagues. Now you have almost 400."

• It would help bring back four-man rotations, allowing some of the biggest stars in the game to pitch more often: "We went every four days back when we were pitching 300 innings," Kaat said. "These guys are bigger, better, stronger. It would just be a matter of training them."

Kaat dismissed the notion that seven-inning games would render obsolete the history books and the stats that drive so many baseball fans.

"To me, the record book has been distorted over the years in so many ways -- expansion, the DH, 13-man pitching staffs, steroids, can't brush hitters off the plate, livelier bats, hitters diving into the ball," Kaat said. "Craig Kimbrel just got his 300th save. That's a great accomplishment. But 300 saves when Kimbrel does it is a lot different than when Bruce Sutter did it."

Kaat thinks his plan would shorten games and bring in more fans. He says it might keep players healthier. And most important, it might make the game more interesting.

"It's become a home run derby, with more strikeouts," Kaat said. "The fans and players deserve better."



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porkchopbob - 5/11/2018 at 10:17 PM

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It would reduce the size of pitching staffs: "When I broke in, there were 16 teams, eight in each league," Kaat said. "You had basically 10 pitchers on a staff, 160 in all of the major leagues. Now you have almost 400."



You're probably not going to convince a lot of pitchers to support their own downsizing. Personally, I don't really have a problem with the length of games.


Stephen - 5/11/2018 at 10:37 PM

Many fans do (esp older fans) -- 1-0 and 2-1 games routinely take 3+ hours
Yes downsizing would mean less money -- that's what I have little problem with personally --
a player recently espoused the idea of a shorter season too -- again, I understand that that's taking $ out of people's pockets, but it's too much of it that has screwed the game up -- MLB is too much of everything -- the GAME has become something Messers. Cartwright and Doubleday didn't envision -- it's become a money industry


gondicar - 5/13/2018 at 08:37 PM

Efffff the Yankees go Sox. That is all.


Lee - 5/15/2018 at 10:29 AM

It's only May so obviously a lot of ball to be played. However, if I am on the outside looking in, I think the Yanks are a tad better.

Shame they have that one game play in thing. I hate that. One of those teams could win 90 - 95 games and be done after one day by the Twins or someone like that. Hell my Tiggers are somehow in it at the moment.

I liked it when we had the League Championship series. Then World Series.

Oh wait, there was $$$$$ to be made.


Lee - 5/15/2018 at 08:45 PM

Robinson Cano is a cheater? Wow!


porkchopbob - 5/15/2018 at 09:00 PM

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Shame they have that one game play in thing. I hate that. .


I'm not a fan either. Play a series, not just a game.


Lee - 5/17/2018 at 09:41 AM

Two out of three is even plausible. Give the team with the best record two games at home and if it is tied go back to the other team's stadium. Or do it the other way around so the best team gets the deciding game at home. Heck, let the best team choose what they want to do.

Pretty easy to do something like this. It wouldn't be like coordinating The Super Bowl. Hell Sunday the Braves played a game in Miami, flew to Chicago, played a makeup game there with the Flubs and then flew home to Atlanta to start a three game series with, yes you guessed it, the Flubs.

Makes sense, right?


emr - 5/17/2018 at 05:18 PM

The only beneficiary of one and done is seemingly Madison Bumgarner


Stephen - 5/18/2018 at 04:11 PM

Or David -- a great milestone last night, a CG (Complete Game) -- his fourth in last 3 years (since joining Sox) -- said he felt fine afterward -- maybe he has a few more in him & not just one&done -- any-way, O's are great for what ails ya -- let's go Sox

Clay Returns Sunday -- Sox fans want to see him do well -- he's w/a good team, AZ

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Lee - 5/19/2018 at 11:24 AM

Yep, Tiggers are four games under .500 and only a game and a half out of first. Nuts, huh?


emr - 5/20/2018 at 07:33 PM

The Giants are also 1/2 game under 500 and only 3 games out. I don't expect this to last unless Madbum comes back strong and Cueto heals quickly.

Three observations
1 - The Dodgers may have the worst team/dollar in the history of MLB
2 - Daniel Murphy is sorely missed in Washington. They keep pitching around Harper who is either going to kill himself or someone else
3- I think Didi Gregorious has a significant injury. Too long/too deep for just a slump


Stephen - 5/21/2018 at 06:57 PM

KC, Balt & ChiSox have same records
ChiSox 8.5 outta 1st place in Cntrl
Orioles 17 out in East -- yes an imbalance there
you never know -- they won their wknd series against lowly TX -- now, a quick sweep of low-lier Orioles, & Just Like That -- ChiSox, yep CHI-Sox -- would be in the hunt

SO WHAT -- w/JBJ, Sandy & Christian not having-yet hit, & w/Dustin back this week (hopefully)...
NY hasn't yet seen best of BoSox --
Carson blamed fatigue brought on by misuse for his return to rehab (espn article) -- refrain from comment Stephen/I don't walk in his shoes etc., & Let's Go Sawx, they love us down there (TB), "Sox-Nation" fan base solid there, time to go on a streak

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Lee - 5/24/2018 at 09:45 PM

Lenny Dykstra threatens to kill Uber driver. What will that guy do next?


Stephen - 5/25/2018 at 09:34 PM

Really disappointed to see Hanley DFA'd -- didn't see that coming at all -- Hanley was great & hopefully will continue to be -- let's go Sox


Lee - 5/26/2018 at 11:28 AM

Yeah that surprised me. If I understand it, the Sux are still on the hook for the rest of his contract unless someone else picks him up (doubtful).

Not quite as bad as giving Sandoval all that $$$ but still...


Lee - 5/26/2018 at 11:33 AM

Boy oh boy are the local papers ripping Wellington Castillo a new one. I mean, they are the worst team in baseball so I'm not sure that it really matters.

I do get a chuckle out of Rick Renteria's take on things though. He can spin any bad situation in a good light.

If I cared for the White Sux I would be really pissed with them.


Lee - 5/27/2018 at 11:56 AM

I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.


porkchopbob - 5/27/2018 at 04:10 PM

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I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.



Hopefully they stay at the bottom where the Cubs are supposed to be! Brew Crew are in a nice spot, they've been putting up some big numbers against decent teams in May. (And for the record, they were 1-7 against the Flubs in April but that might as well have been a lifetime ago.)


Lee - 5/28/2018 at 11:21 AM

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I am starting to get concerned about the Flubs. They should be way over .500 and they obviously are not. I think they even took three out of four against Milwaukee last month.



Hopefully they stay at the bottom where the Cubs are supposed to be! Brew Crew are in a nice spot, they've been putting up some big numbers against decent teams in May. (And for the record, they were 1-7 against the Flubs in April but that might as well have been a lifetime ago.)



Just think if was the other way around. Or even 4 -4. Flubs would REALLY be out of it.


Lee - 5/28/2018 at 11:27 AM

My Tiggers are 3.5 games out of first place. And they are 6 games under .500


Lee - 5/30/2018 at 09:51 AM

So my Tiggers get to face Ohtani tonight. I was supposed to go back to Detroit yesterday but I didn't go. I have to go there there Friday. Maybe he will DH and I can catch a game.


Sang - 5/30/2018 at 03:27 PM

Yes, Anthony Rizzo cheated - too bad it took MLB a day or 2 to figure it out.....


Lee - 5/31/2018 at 10:55 AM

I can't believe it was such big news. A guy stuck his foot out a tad? Judgement call I guess. That isn't cheating. Might call him out but he didn't cheat.

A runner ran almost six feet out of the baseline last week trying to avoid a tag at second base. Did he cheat?

And they didn't call it nor did they review that one.


Sang - 5/31/2018 at 04:03 PM

Cheating may have been the wrong word, but he obviously went out of his way to clip the catcher - which is against the "new" rule that is supposed to protect catchers......


Stephen - 6/1/2018 at 04:04 PM

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Clay Returns Sunday -- Sox fans want to see him do well -- he's w/a good team, AZ





"A good team"???
AZ has **** the bed, but Clay pitches tonite -- so far so good (0-1/no discomfort) -- Clay could become a savior for skidding D-backs

they won their series against lowly Miami -- now a series w/also-lowly Cincy, & yep --
…...PADS about to climb out of cellar in anemic NL west

SOME UNEASE THO -- it's the same lame injury so often seen -- "tightness in side, after a practice swing" -- but when it's Mookie -- not good -- get back quick Mookie Betts, our top player --
the left knee is bothersome, unfortunately -- But It's A Long seaon & should settle down for a long-enough period of time for DUSTIN PEDROIA to play extensively/effectively
Hanley, you are not forgotten -- now it's Houston


Lee - 6/7/2018 at 06:40 PM

Just saw that Red Schoendienst passed away. R.I.P. That man spent a long time in The Bigs.


Stephen - 6/7/2018 at 10:47 PM

A career Cardinal -- managed them to the 1967-68 WS, bearing us in '67 -- Red Schoendienst as manager, Stan Musial as their GM, and Lou Brock & Curt Flood at the top of the order -- even Carl couldn't overcome them

Bartolo, 45, tied Juan Marichal on the wins list with 243 -- was thinking Juan reached 243 in less innings, but the opposite is true -- Bartolo 3,300 IP, Juan 3,500

With the bottom of the order not hitting (Sandy is starting to) and no Mookie or Dustin, we won't be able to keep it up too much longer -- let's go Sox, a big game from Steven W Tues

The Braves do still have a team -- it's 90 years ago and they got both Rogers Hornsby and George Sisler -- the town was set on its ear & the Sox in second for a summer (1928) with these two charter HOFers on the same squad -- I remember it well

[Edited on 6/7/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 6/8/2018 at 12:27 AM

Pitchers used to finish what they started. Marichal had 471 games to 550 for Colon.

Maricahl once beat Spahn 1-0 in 16 innings. When Alvin Dark wanted to remove him from the game Juan stated "I'm not coming out as long as that f**ng old man is still pitching."

Best pitcher never to win the Cy Young. Someone (Koufax; Drysdale: Gibson: Seaver) always had a season just a little bit better

Along with Koufax only pitcher with three 25 win seasons in the modern era


Lee - 6/8/2018 at 10:57 AM

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Along with Koufax only pitcher with three 25 win seasons in the modern era


I think Bob Welch won 27 in 1990.

Given the way they are playing the game now, who knows if anyone could win 20. And MLB wonders why games takes so long. Fat guy waddling out of the dugout to change pitchers five or six times a game.


emr - 6/8/2018 at 12:19 PM

Koufax and Marichal won 25 games THREE times each


Lee - 6/8/2018 at 01:52 PM

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Koufax and Marichal won 25 games THREE times each


I think Phil Neikro won AND lost over 20 in the same season. That is something that will never happen again.


Stephen - 6/8/2018 at 03:26 PM

Same Steve "Lefty" Carlton, who won 27 of Phils' 59 wins in 1972 -- 346 IP, players now would sue if they had to pitch that many innings
yep, LAD used eight pitchers in a 9 inning (8.5) game Wed -- Pirates used six, game took 3:48 to play -- I would be more bored than into it at a game like that, even w/the 11-9 final score
Berrios, however, had a CG 6-hitter ystrdy (for MN) -- they've become such an overregulated politically incorrect rarity

[Edited on 6/8/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/9/2018 at 11:17 AM

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Steve "Lefty" Carlton, who won 27 of Phils' 59 wins in 1972 -- 346 IP, players now would sue if they had to pitch that many innings


I have always found this amazing. How many games would they have lost without him? If he could have pitched 500 innings would he have won 40? I would have pitched him every third day. Okay, probably not but you get the idea.

Ya think long time Cardinal fans think "what if?"

Too bad he kind of tarnished his legacy by sticking around too long. Even when I was a teen I thought he needed to call it a day.

Not the nicest guy in the world but a great pitcher.


emr - 6/9/2018 at 06:17 PM

Left only stayed around 2-3 years after it was over. Not horrible.

And yeah; he was a beast in 72. Perhaps the best slider ever. And I guess his trade was the Yin to the Yan when they got Lou Brock.

You have to figure he learned a few things from Gibson - who was perhaps the greatest beast of all time.

As Gibson said to Tim McCarver when Tim had the balls to come out to tell Gibson how to pitch
"The only thing you know about good pitching is that you can't hit it."


Lee - 6/10/2018 at 10:17 AM

Give ya that on the Lou Brock trade. God Cub fans have to hate that one. Hall of Famer for a washed up pitcher. I think he had one or two good years.

I do still think Carlton hung on too long.


emr - 6/10/2018 at 01:59 PM

Most athletes do. Its the rare Jim Brown or Barry Sanders


Stephen - 6/10/2018 at 05:56 PM

Sandy Koufax or Marvin Hagler too -- yep exceptions to the rule


emr - 6/10/2018 at 06:06 PM

Kinda of like the Goldilocks sx - cause those three (Koufax; Brown; Sanders) were too soon. Carlton too late

Now Peyton Manning and John Elway - those were "just right"


Stephen - 6/12/2018 at 05:39 PM

Four of the six divisions are tied at the top -- Seattle has won 18 of 23 -- it's huge in Milwaukee w/Cubs in town, they're tied for 1st --
Pirates gotta get going by pulling away from .500 starting tonite -- However, standing in the way is Clay -- sure enough -- 24 carefully-monitored IP spread out over four starts -- 21 K's, allowed just 17 hits & has a 1.88 ERA, so hooray for Clay, hopefully he keeps going good after tonite

MadBum is back, Johnny Cueto & Brandon Belt are nearing returns -- they have Andrew McCutchen & Evan Longoria on a team w/Buster Posey, Hunter Pence
...& w/Pablo Sandoval backwhere he wants to be & playing well -- he looked positively like a speedster legging out an infield hit recently -- Ya The SF Baseball Giants are poised to take over anemic NL West


emr - 6/13/2018 at 01:07 AM

Family has been Giant fans since prior to 1900. Hope Madbum returns to form. ? Cueto? Posey still tops. Think Longoria and Metucheon are past their top games.

But yes; the division is weak. If they can eke into the playoffs and Madbum returns to full they can ride the bull


Lee - 6/13/2018 at 10:35 AM

Miguel Cabrera out for the season.


Stephen - 6/13/2018 at 04:41 PM

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Seattle has won 18 of 23 --


Players like Miggy & Dustin, MAYB, should be/could be looking at the end of great careers -- they've been at it a long time -- Pedey says he still thinks he can return -- his knee is unpredictable, they said it'd be that after his operation

But yes, we see them this wknd., David Price & King Felix tmrw nite -- Mookie should play
3 good innings, then Bucs blew Clay outta the box in 4th before getting blown out themselves


Lee - 6/13/2018 at 08:10 PM

And the Tiggers owe Miggy a ton of guaranteed money. Not sure what they were thinking when they signed him to the contract extension.


Stephen - 6/14/2018 at 04:40 PM

In this matchup of ex-Cy Young winners, 32, David is 5-0 in his last 6 starts, 7-4 overall -- Felix (6-5) has been uneven this season -- we gotta somehow continue to fatten up his ERA tonite, it's 5.70 right now, David's 4.00 -- their race w/Houston is as close as ours is w/NY, as the top 4 teams in MLB

Dubious distinction in Baltimore -- at 27 GB, further out of first place at this 1/3rd mark of the season than almost any team ever, including expansion NY Mets of early 1960s


emr - 6/14/2018 at 07:28 PM

Reading about the Yankees search for upgraded starting pitching and it reminds me how much I hate the one off wild card games.

When it was one wild card only a strong team finishing second didn’t lead them to make drastic moves. Young players were left to develop. Trades were deferred. I truly think there was less concentration of power


Lee - 6/14/2018 at 10:51 PM

Longoria breaks his hand today. Geez the Giants are snake bitten...


Stephen - 6/14/2018 at 10:57 PM

You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves
SPAHNIE
June 14, 1952
Boston pitcher Warren Spahn goes all 15 innings, fanning 18 Cubs but losing the game 3-1, despite hitting a HR for Boston's only run
Let's go Sawx, it's huge in Seattle this wknd

[Edited on 6/14/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 6/15/2018 at 02:28 AM

How did I miss this one too
June 14, 1974
Nolan Ryan whiffs 19 batters in 13 innings, including Cecil Cooper six consecutive times, in the Angels' 4-3 victory over Boston in 15 innings in Anaheim. The RHP's performance will be the first of three 19-strikeout outings the Texan throws this season.


Stephen - 6/15/2018 at 02:39 PM

Good start, good start -- tonite is likely to be identical, ie well pitched game w/Sox winning -- their kid is 6-1, & ups to Rick (8-3) -- he didn't miss a turn last year & hasn't so far this -- a crucial one to get 2nite w/our 4 & 5 going the 2 wknd games

Paper (Herald) didn't have that Nolan R blurb -- it did have Warren's, also this on a June 14 the Sox'd like to forget
1969
Reggie Jackson drives in 10 runs in Oakland's 21-7 rout of the Sox. The A's outfielder's offensive output in the Fenway Park contest includes a pair of two-run homers, a double, and a single.


IPowrie - 6/15/2018 at 06:50 PM

Made it to Wrigley last weekend. It was a fun time. We were in the last row of the upper deck behind home plate which was a great view.


Lee - 6/15/2018 at 11:08 PM

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You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves



Except they have been in Atlanta since 1966 I think it is.


Stephen - 6/16/2018 at 02:13 AM

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You had the thread title right before -- the Boston Braves



Except they have been in Atlanta since 1966 I think it is.


??? -- yes I was aware of that -- just wanted to mention Warren's 1952 gem as a Braves player -- you renamed the thread "Are they still the Boston Braves" last week --
also June 14, in 1965, Jim Maloney pitched a 10-inning no-hitter for the Reds & lost.
He did it again later that summer, this time winning -- I don't think even Warren did that in one season


Lee - 6/16/2018 at 01:38 PM

Didn't know about Maloney's. Can't be as heart breaking as Harvey Haddix pitching 13 perfect innings and losing. I read this thing where this writer suggested Haddix should be credited with throwing a no hitter since he went nine innings without giving up a hit. I found that thought interesting.


Stephen - 6/16/2018 at 05:07 PM

Same Here -- some sort of recognition for a 9-inning no-no is warranted -- crazy w/Maloney tho, twice in 1 season -- a Reds great (1960-70) -- 134-84 lifetime W-L -- 20-9, 2.77 ERA, in 255 IP in 1965

[Edited on 6/16/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/18/2018 at 12:44 AM

Here's a weird one. In 1952 Virgil Trucks went 5 and 19. Two of the wins were no hitters. What are the odds of that?

I think his nephew was Butch and Derek is a great nephew. Think I got that right. Me being from Detroit I remember my grandpa talking highly of him when I asked years ago. I have a handful of baseball cards of him. Was never able to get him to sign one.


oldcoot - 6/18/2018 at 05:08 PM

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Didn't know about Maloney's. Can't be as heart breaking as Harvey Haddix pitching 13 perfect innings and losing. I read this thing where this writer suggested Haddix should be credited with throwing a no hitter since he went nine innings without giving up a hit. I found that thought interesting.


They used to be recognized and then baseball modified recognition to it only being a pitcher who didn't allow a hit to the other team through a full nine innings (or more) and completed the game. They took recognition away from pitchers who went eight innings and didn't allow a hit but lost the game 1-0 as the visiting team (pitcher only threw eight innings, not a "full game"), which I thought stinks too.

But then, I still consider Hank Aaron the all-time leader in home runs and Roger Maris for the most in one season. But that's just me.


Stephen - 6/19/2018 at 04:42 PM

Sort of a dfrnt sbjct but they never credited Andres Gallaraga w/a perfect game either, which I think is completely bogus -- ump blew the call, the runner was out, perfect game


emr - 6/19/2018 at 04:55 PM

I was thinking about that game but couldn’t remember Gallaragos name. That call wasn’t even close

Moly Pappas lost a perfect game with a 2 out 9 inning walk and went ballistic. That was a borderline call however


Lee - 6/20/2018 at 12:13 PM

Do you mean Armando Galarraga of the Tigers? That was a bad call. I kind of felt bad for the ump, Jim Joyce. It was kind of neat the next day when Galarraga was given the official lineup card to take to the ump which was Joyce. Ump had tears in his eyes because he knew he had blown the call.

Thought that was VERY classy of Galarraga. Guy didn't have a long career by any means but it would be cool to be in the record books.


Stephen - 6/21/2018 at 09:59 PM

Jesus -- now it's NY & Houston
blink of an eye, we're 2 GB
it's 3.5 for Seattle -- we split w/them last weekend -- we have to win the series this wknd -- we miss King Felix, it should be a go -- we got the bats fired up this aftrn -- let's go Sox


Lee - 6/22/2018 at 01:16 PM

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Jesus -- now it's NY & Houston
blink of an eye, we're 2 GB
it's 3.5 for Seattle -- we split w/them last weekend -- we have to win the series this wknd -- we miss King Felix, it should be a go -- we got the bats fired up this aftrn -- let's go Sox



I've said this before but I REALLY hate the one game play in thing. Yanks and Red Sux could have the the best records in the league and one gets bumped after a day.

College can do two out of three, why not MLB? If they are so concerned about travel just give the whole mini series home field to whoever wins the division.


Stephen - 6/22/2018 at 02:54 PM

Agreed -- it doesn't prove a thing -- wish they'd left it at the top 3 & 1 WC --
I'd like to see a retro move to two divisions, the winners playing 3 of 5 -- get rid of the "ALDS" format in favor of one ALCS

On One Day.
On one day in August 1992, Giants pitcher Bud Black had a career record of 92-92, and the teams for which he played had a 796-796 record, the ultimate .500 pitcher.


Stephen - 6/22/2018 at 03:13 PM

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it's early yet but sevrl teams, Cincy, SD, Miami, Tex, Balt others, are already near wait-til-next-year mode -- ChiSox & KC would be but are in weak div


wait tho -- the Red Stockings, America's original team (1869) are making a move (W4) in the NL Cntrl -- Texas, W5 -- other end, ChiSox & KC a combined L16, groty

Also Seattle L4, & we have to expose them to the same level of play this wknd that they just saw in NY -- we have to show 'em it's not just NY & Houston, that we're at that level too & can't slide any further back -- they have easy ones this wknd (Houstn/NYY) -- let's go Sox, boys of summer


Lee - 6/22/2018 at 05:09 PM

Speaking of today's title, does anyone know what team they are today? Without Googling?


BIGV - 6/22/2018 at 05:34 PM

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Speaking of today's title, does anyone know what team they are today? Without Googling?


Sure do and here's how I ask this as a trivia question:

"If the Boston Braves became the Milwaukee Braves who then became the Atlanta Braves, where did the Brewers come from"?


Lee - 6/22/2018 at 06:49 PM

This lady I used to know who is from Milwaukee fancies herself a baseball fan. I asked her if she knew where the Brewers moved from. She didn't know. Didn't rub it in but I did kind of chuckle.


Lee - 6/23/2018 at 11:28 AM

What very well known future manager played on the Seattle Pilots?


Lee - 6/23/2018 at 02:52 PM

Nobody? Lou Piniella.


Lee - 6/26/2018 at 09:55 PM

So I went to an independent league minor league game today. The Chicago Dogs. I would equate the talent level to low single A minor league. Not a knock. It was good. Cool stadium, cheap refreshments, a ton of kids there.

It was kind of a hike to get there but had a lot of fun.


porkchopbob - 6/26/2018 at 10:13 PM

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This lady I used to know who is from Milwaukee fancies herself a baseball fan. I asked her if she knew where the Brewers moved from. She didn't know. Didn't rub it in but I did kind of chuckle.


As a Brewers fan myself, I can say most Brew fans know this, but since it was just a single season in Seattle, there are just as many Brewers and Mariners fans who aren't aware of the Pilots (I think both franchises have worn Pilots throwbacks). Just as there are a lot of Orioles fans who aren't aware their team started as the Milwaukee Brewers for a single season. You could still find plenty of Braves fans in the area in the 80s and 90s, though the early 80s Brewers squads thinned their ranks and converted a lot of folks.

The American League was actually founded in Milwaukee, and their team immediately left town. Coincidentally, the only one of the 8 original AL teams to fold were the Baltimore Orioles, who were eventually reborn from the original Milwaukee Brewers (after a few decades in St Louis). And the Orioles' demise led immediately to the formation of the NY Highlanders.

I think the Brewers are the only team to lose a World Series and a League Championship to the same team.


porkchopbob - 6/26/2018 at 10:28 PM

quote:
Sure do and here's how I ask this as a trivia question:

"If the Boston Braves became the Milwaukee Braves who then became the Atlanta Braves, where did the Brewers come from"?


And if people dislike the Washington "Redskins" name they can blame Boston Red Sox and the Atlanta Braves.

Since early NFL teams attempted to gain fans by changing their names to mirror the established baseball teams whose stadiums they shared (Bears/Cubs, Lions/Tigers). Sometimes they used the exact same name such as the NY Giants, Pittsburgh Pirates (later the Steelers), and the Boston Braves. When the Boston Braves football team moved from the NL's Braves' stadium to Fenway, they kept the same Native American theme, but added "Red" to mirror Fenway's Red Sox, becoming the Boston Redskins.


Sang - 6/26/2018 at 10:30 PM

quote:
So I went to an independent league minor league game today. The Chicago Dogs. I would equate the talent level to low single A minor league. Not a knock. It was good. Cool stadium, cheap refreshments, a ton of kids there.

It was kind of a hike to get there but had a lot of fun.


We have the Windy City Thunderbolts close - I go to one game a year and it is fun. Joliet has a team fairly close by too.....

Tuesday night games at Windy City are $2 admission and $2 parking - $4 for a 16-oz Goose Island 4 Star Pils ....


porkchopbob - 6/26/2018 at 10:33 PM

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What very well known future manager played on the Seattle Pilots?


Pinella was drafted by the Pilots in the expansion draft, but was traded to KC Royals before opening day.


sckeys - 6/27/2018 at 03:21 AM

Anybody diggin the college World Series? We have no local teams in this year but I always watch. I enjoy it when these small wonder teams get in and make a go at it.


Stephen - 6/27/2018 at 06:00 PM

quote:
quote:
So I went to an independent league minor league game today. The Chicago Dogs. I would equate the talent level to low single A minor league. Not a knock. It was good. Cool stadium, cheap refreshments, a ton of kids there.

It was kind of a hike to get there but had a lot of fun.


We have the Windy City Thunderbolts close - I go to one game a year and it is fun. Joliet has a team fairly close by too.....

Tuesday night games at Windy City are $2 admission and $2 parking - $4 for a 16-oz Goose Island 4 Star Pils ....


We have the Vermont Mountaineers, a college all-star league of sorts, something along the lines of the Cape Cod League -- real enjoyable, bball the way it was meant to be, a fun, very good brand of ball, $6 tickets -- the Vermont Lake Monsters, Oakland A's AA affiliate, play in Burlington

Jim Bouton of Ball 4 fame pitched for the Seattle Pilots (upstairs not google)

"15 years goes qwiker than it used to"
June 27 2003, the Sawx set a record scoring 10 runs before the first out is recorded in a 25-8 win -- score 14 runs in 1st inning, Johnny Damon sets, or ties, record w/3 hits in 1st inning


Lee - 6/27/2018 at 06:11 PM

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quote:
What very well known future manager played on the Seattle Pilots?


Pinella was drafted by the Pilots in the expansion draft, but was traded to KC Royals before opening day.


Guess I asked the wrong question. But I wasn't born at the time...


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 12:19 PM

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Anybody diggin the college World Series? We have no local teams in this year but I always watch. I enjoy it when these small wonder teams get in and make a go at it.


And we get a game three!


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 05:25 PM

The Tiggers just fired their pitching coach Chris Bosio for insensitive comments, whatever that means. So he was there all of three months. I wonder what he did.


Stephen - 6/28/2018 at 06:41 PM

They're alleging a racial slur, from what I've read -- saw today's title, & Sammy continues to deny he took anything illegal (espn article) -- all the greats like him, Barry B, McGwire, the Rocket, Palmieri etc deserve their own special place

but gosh a deserved feast or what -- Seattle, bounced in 3 straight series w/the iron of the league, Sox & NY -- then along comes big relief in Balt, now lowly-easy KC this wknd, boom, right back on Hstn's case -- crazy scheduling

what can top it tho, Sawx-NY, the two top dogs meeting in the Bronx on 4th of July wknd (?)

hopefully the guy is OK who got hurt at home plate last nite -- in severe pain, carted off the field, rushed to hospital, no word yet on injury

if Billy Hamilton ever did anything w/the bat, going the way Cincy is going right now....

nope it proved out, Boone replacing Girardi, same Cora for Farrell -- Brandon Phillips is a good pickup, a veteran player who'll help

Finally, Do-We, Do-We, Do-We -- in the greatest game of his career, Dwight Evans belts a game winning 3 run HR to complete hitting for the cycle on this day in 1984

Also Craig Biggio in 2007 became just the 9th player ever to attain 3,000 hits w/one team


[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 07:07 PM

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Also Craig Biggio in 2007 became just the 9th player ever to attain 3,000 hits w/one team


[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


Without looking it up and off the top of my head, the greatest player of all time, George Brett , Yount, Kaline, Clemente, Mays, Aaron. I think those are some of them.





[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Lee]


Lee - 6/28/2018 at 07:15 PM

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They're alleging a racial slur, from what I've read -- saw today's title, & Sammy continues to deny he took anything illegal (espn article) -- all the greats like him, Barry B, McGwire, the Rocket, Palmieri etc deserve their own special place



Sosa has been trying to get back into good graces with the Cubs recently. This story was all over the local news this morning. I don't see it happening. Every Cubs fan here can't stand the guy so I don't think it would be a good idea.

Hell, he walked out on the team during a game.


Stephen - 6/28/2018 at 10:14 PM

As if an L9 weren't enough, Bosio is now considering legal action against Det
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A day after he was fired as pitching coach of the Detroit Tigers for using what the team called insensitive comments toward a club employee, Chris Bosio says what happened was a misunderstanding and that he will explore potential legal action against the organization.

"I'm crushed,'' Bosio told USA Today. "I'm absolutely crushed. I still can't believe it's gotten to this point.

"I'm in shock.''

The Tigers on Wednesday fired Bosio for his comments, saying they violated the organization's "zero tolerance for this type of behavior."

Bosio explained his side of the story. While in his cubicle inside the Tigers coaches office, he says he used the word "monkey" to describe Detroit pitcher Daniel Stumpf, who is white. However, Bosio said a clubhouse attendant who is African-American overheard what he said and thought Bosio was talking about him.

[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


oldcoot - 6/29/2018 at 02:48 PM

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quote:


Also Craig Biggio in 2007 became just the 9th player ever to attain 3,000 hits w/one team


[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Stephen]


Without looking it up and off the top of my head, the greatest player of all time, George Brett , Yount, Kaline, Clemente, Mays, Aaron. I think those are some of them.





[Edited on 6/28/2018 by Lee]



Musial. Gwynn. Jeter.

If it means all career hits, including reaching 3,000, with only a single team, that group above would change due to Aaron, Mays etc. switching teams late in their careers.


Stephen - 6/29/2018 at 05:55 PM

Hank played 12 years in Milwaukee, then 9 years in Atlnta, then finished back in Milwaukee
same Willie, started in NY (Polo Grounds), then the move to SF where he spent most of his career before, like Hank, returning to where his career began


Lee - 6/29/2018 at 08:04 PM

It's a fun trivia question. Gonna have to put that one in my back pocket for a friend of mine. We always try to best each other at sports trivia.


Lee - 6/29/2018 at 08:29 PM

Here's one: This was a bar bet a guy I know gave to me years ago and I think I got it right. Kind of difficult. He asked that at every position, who won MVPs in two consecutive seasons?

I got a bunch of them. Yogi Berra catcher

Mike Schmidt third

Ernie Banks short

Joe Morgan Second

Jimmie Fox first

Dale Murphy left

Mickey Mantle Center

Barry Bonds right

There are a few others afterwords I think.

Again, these are off the top of my head. I thought Mays did but I'm not sure.

There was only one pitcher which is the tough one. Played for the Tigers.



[Edited on 7/1/2018 by Lee]


oldcoot - 6/29/2018 at 10:21 PM

Hal Newhouser?


Lee - 6/29/2018 at 11:03 PM

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Hal Newhouser?



Yup. I wanna say '44 & '45. Not sure why he wasn't in the war.


oldcoot - 6/29/2018 at 11:44 PM

quote:
It's a fun trivia question. Gonna have to put that one in my back pocket for a friend of mine. We always try to best each other at sports trivia.



Great site for all kinds of trivia including a bunch of baseball, www.sporcle.com.


To answer the earlier question about players who got 3,000 hits or more all with one team (they didn't specifically have that quiz, but if your do their 3,000 hit club quiz the answers become obvious):

Musial
Jeter
Yastrzemski
Brett
Yount
Gwynn
Biggio
Kaline
Clemente


Lee - 6/30/2018 at 10:39 AM

ALL with one team. So that would obviously exclude Mays & Aaron.


oldcoot - 6/30/2018 at 02:35 PM

quote:
It's a fun trivia question. Gonna have to put that one in my back pocket for a friend of mine. We always try to best each other at sports trivia.



Try this one, name the four players in MLB history to have homered while still a teenager and also at 40 or more years of age.


Stephen - 6/30/2018 at 03:34 PM

Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?



Stephen - 6/30/2018 at 04:07 PM

They smoked us last night -- Chris will have to be sharp 2nite, to give us a shot at Severino Sunday & the series -- they're playing at nite, outta the brutal daytime heat

AL West is competitive right now -- King Felix & Bartolo, 46, will school their opponents tonite -- Oakland W5 --
Tygiz are history amid controversy which, if it was like Bosio said it was w/regard to his dismissal, oh God -- unbelievable ......
however, Gardenhire is defending the move, & Stumpf says he didn't have any "Spider Monkey" nickname that he was aware of.....

oh these prim & proper times -- sensitivity training classes are next, hurties MUST be monitored at all times -- & let's go Sawx, Blow Their Stinkin Doors Off


oldcoot - 6/30/2018 at 04:25 PM

quote:
Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?






You have two of them.


Lee - 6/30/2018 at 07:26 PM

I have Mickey's Monkey on my itunes. Am I allowed to play that?


oldcoot - 6/30/2018 at 11:10 PM

quote:
Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?





Staub & Cobb are the two correct.


emr - 7/1/2018 at 12:46 AM

I googled the other two; wouldn't have gotten one of the if I live to be a thousand


Lee - 7/1/2018 at 11:16 AM

Kaline probably got the first half correct.


emr - 7/1/2018 at 12:44 PM

When I was a Kid Kaline was half a trivia answer. He had most home runs without a 30 homer season (399) and Stan the Man had the most homers without a 40 homer season (475)

What two batters have surpased Stan?

And re: Al Kaline. I remember buying a Kaline glove at the end of his career. It was 1/3 cheaper than the exact same glove endorsed by an up and comer. As my kids will tell you I'm a cheap SOB. RIP for that glove b1972 d2004


oldcoot - 7/1/2018 at 08:52 PM

quote:
When I was a Kid Kaline was half a trivia answer. He had most home runs without a 30 homer season (399) and Stan the Man had the most homers without a 40 homer season (475)

What two batters have surpased Stan?

And re: Al Kaline. I remember buying a Kaline glove at the end of his career. It was 1/3 cheaper than the exact same glove endorsed by an up and comer. As my kids will tell you I'm a cheap SOB. RIP for that glove b1972 d2004


Eddie Murray and Fred McGriff.


oldcoot - 7/1/2018 at 08:54 PM

quote:
quote:
Good one
Rusty Staub, L'Grand Orange

Al Kaline?
Willie McCovey?
Ty Cobb?





Staub & Cobb are the two correct.


Sheffield and A-Fraud* are the other two.


Stephen - 7/2/2018 at 03:26 PM

He mashed 521 of em, many of the tape-measure variety
Yet his all-time Bomb, one that rendered useless any tape measure, Is Not Among Them :WTF: -- a rocket literally last seen somewhere out over what is now the area known as McCovey's Cove

Tape measure? What good would that have done when, as Willie was quoted in later years, "the ball landed in Oakland"

So dumbfounded were the umpires as they lost sight of the ball as it left Candlestick, that they called it foul -- Willie was angry, Al Dark raised a good stink, all of course to no avail -- press & fans who had the angle on it also saw it fair

Yet this mega-blown call unwittingly paved the way for the greatest pitchers duel of all time -- Juan-Spahn, July 2, 1963, 16 shutout innings each, SF won on a Willie Mays HR

Stretch's moon shot was bottom of the ninth too & would've won the game -- Warren almost did -- at the plate top 7, thought he spotted something in his opposite #'s high-kicking delivery, Boom -- the 42 year old iron man crushed one off the RF fence, just missing a HR

these #s have to look like Greek to the modern-day fan, who missed it when it was a Game & men were men -- Warren, 35 career HR, the most by any pitcher ever -- it's true, you could look it up

[Edited on 7/2/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 7/2/2018 at 05:48 PM

I was at this game in 1965 at Shea

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN196508270.shtml

McCovey hit two homers. One was a skyscraper of the scoreboard. The other one was a liner that was the hardest hit ball I've ever seen. If my 9 year old brain encoded it properly it was like Back To The Future; the ball was out of the park before it was pitched.

Mays was the best hitter on the Giants; "Stretch" was the most feared,


Lee - 7/2/2018 at 08:35 PM

quote:
I was at this game in 1965 at Shea

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN196508270.shtml

McCovey hit two homers. One was a skyscraper of the scoreboard. The other one was a liner that was the hardest hit ball I've ever seen. If my 9 year old brain encoded it properly it was like Back To The Future; the ball was out of the park before it was pitched.

Mays was the best hitter on the Giants; "Stretch" was the most feared,



1965? Boy are you old!

There are times I wish I had been around in the '60s. Some of those great HOFers. The pitchers. Gibson, Drysdale, Koufax, Marichal.

They would stick it in your ear just for looking at them.


emr - 7/2/2018 at 10:05 PM

LOL re: age. As Mickey Mantle said: "If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself."

60's were a great time for baseball; that's for sure. Gibson is perhaps my favorite athlete of all time (maybe except for Dave Debusschere - cause if I had enough talent to play pro he's theguy I would have played like.

We were big Giant fans - going back to my granfather c1898 when he came to the US. When the Yankees beat the Giants 1-0 in Game 7 to win the WS in 1962 "Stretch" hit a ferocious line drive with runners on 2/3 and two out. Unfortunately it went straight into the glove of Bobby Richardson.

My grandfather was 81 and a bit senile. He went right after a hammer and attacked either his radio or TV screaming "I'll kill the SOB" My grandmother tackled him then called us over. He died 2 mos later - no doubt that took the little bit of life he had left out of him


oldcoot - 7/2/2018 at 10:39 PM

I lived less than 1/2 mile from Gibson's house in Omaha. Every once in a while my buddies and me would ride our bikes past there and he'd be outside doing some yard work.

Funny thing about the end to the '60 and '62 World Series game sevens. One won by NY, one lost. Ralph Terry was on the mound, and pitcher of record in each. Mazeroski homers and McCovey lines out. Hit 'em where they ain't I guess.


emr - 7/2/2018 at 10:45 PM

Guaranteed not of u punks f*+*d w mr Gibson. Only guy I’d have feared more than my dad or the police. You’d have prayed to be arrested and beaten.

And re the tag at the end of your post. At the end of the movie Liberty Valence the reporter states “when the truth and the legend disagree always print the legend”


Lee - 7/3/2018 at 09:58 AM

quote:
I lived less than 1/2 mile from Gibson's house in Omaha. Every once in a while my buddies and me would ride our bikes past there and he'd be outside doing some yard work.

Funny thing about the end to the '60 and '62 World Series game sevens. One won by NY, one lost. Ralph Terry was on the mound, and pitcher of record in each. Mazeroski homers and McCovey lines out. Hit 'em where they ain't I guess.



Did he throw rakes at you?


emr - 7/3/2018 at 01:23 PM

"Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he'll knock you down. He'd knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don't stare at him, don't smile at him, don't talk to him. He doesn't like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don't run too slow, don't run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don't charge the mound, because he's a Gold Glove boxer. I'm like, damn, what about my seventeen-game hitting streak? That was the night it ended." - Hank Aaron


Lee - 7/3/2018 at 04:04 PM

quote:
"Don’t dig in against Bob Gibson, he'll knock you down. He'd knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don't stare at him, don't smile at him, don't talk to him. He doesn't like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don't run too slow, don't run too fast. If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don't charge the mound, because he's a Gold Glove boxer. I'm like, damn, what about my seventeen-game hitting streak? That was the night it ended." - Hank Aaron



Can't remember who said it but I think they were talking about Gibson and the quote was something along the lines of "He was so mean he would throw at his Grandma on Mother's Day".


Stephen - 7/3/2018 at 04:38 PM

Great story about your grandpa & the end of the '62 WS emr -- & your fam's long history w/the Giants -- as far back as Big Six himself -- have your or fam members ever been to the annual Christy Mathewson Day in Factoryville PA -- the legendary unhittable fadeaway pitch -- gosh your grandpa must have similarly melted down when that foul ball dropped between Christy & 2 other players in the ???? WS (1912 I think) -- a lifelong fan, awesome

most of Matty's #s have been upstairs since a kid, always been a fan of the old timers -- 37-3 one year -- passed away tragically young (45) from exposure to poison something during WW I -- occured during 1925 WS & somber players from both teams wore black armbands knowing they were peons compared to the great Big Six


Stephen - 7/3/2018 at 05:15 PM

Pretty good chance of a Tyler Thornburg sighting over the wknd, so they're saying -- they're in KC, they can cautiously slot him in for a few pitches vs a weak offense -- what will Tyler do after one-and-a-half years out -- hopefully not what Carson did

In a scheduling quirk Seattle plays only LA & Colo over next few weeks -- after playing us twice & NY, the schedule since has been more-than kind to mariners (W7, half-game behind Hou)

Dustin P in NY spending time w/physician who did his operation last fall -- this wasn't the result that was expected -- yes they did say discomfort would recur periodically, but this was still not the desired outcome keeping sidelined a great player -- inflammation is persisting

BOSTON RED SOX


emr - 7/3/2018 at 07:25 PM

quote:
Great story about your grandpa & the end of the '62 WS emr -- & your fam's long history w/the Giants -- as far back as Big Six himself -- have your or fam members ever been to the annual Christy Mathewson Day in Factoryville PA -- the legendary unhittable fadeaway pitch -- gosh your grandpa must have similarly melted down when that foul ball dropped between Christy & 2 other players in the ???? WS (1912 I think) -- a lifelong fan, awesome

most of Matty's #s have been upstairs since a kid, always been a fan of the old timers -- 37-3 one year -- passed away tragically young (45) from exposure to poison something during WW I -- occured during 1925 WS & somber players from both teams wore black armbands knowing they were peons compared to the great Big Six


I was only 6 when my grandfather died; so don't have much recollection.


What killed me is never got to share a championship with my dad (1954 was 2 years before I was born) He died just before the Giants blew the series in 2002. The even year streak ran hollow (my brother has defected to the Yankees. Better than the Dodgers.


I just remember staying up to 2:00 AM listening to west coast game on the radio with my dad. Some of our best times together. In 1971 I think it was the Pirates took them out in the playoffs (courtesy of three Bob Roberstson homes.) Giants ran out of gas as Marichal and Perry had to finish up the season and they had no other good pitchers. Dad promised a trip to Baltiore for the WS if the Giants won.


Stephen - 7/3/2018 at 10:32 PM

Paternal side of my fam goes almost as far back w/the Cleveland Indians -- my dad told me all about watching Hal Trosky, Earl Averill & his other heroes -- we were Indians fans growing up, I idolized 3B Max Alvis, Yankee killer, 1B Fred Whitfield, DaddyWags, the great Leon Wagner, Rocky Colavito, of course Sudden Sam et al -- Bob Feller said back in the day Sam's fastball compared to his own

-- at any rate we moved to Boston, where shortly after 1967 came along & Sox fans sprang up everywhere, Including Here -- been on the bus since then


emr - 7/3/2018 at 11:56 PM

Sudden Sam if not for his alcoholism might have been one of the all-time greats


Lee - 7/4/2018 at 12:45 PM

Stupid Tigers blew another one yesterday. Deciding if I want to drop $120 for a pair of tickets today at Wrigley. I can probably get something cheaper outside.


Stephen - 7/4/2018 at 01:27 PM

Hope everyone has a good holiday today -- I'll take my medicine -- gotta take the good w/the bad etc -- Soc fans can't think "4th of July" w/out thinking of Righetti's 1983 no hitter -- it was Carl's last year, he wasn't in the lineup tho so that explains it -- only 41G in attendance, rivalry had cooled down from torrid mid 70s-1980 etc

Yes, no Miggy, ex-pitching coach suing -- long 2nd half looms for Tigers -- same us if Dustin remains out & JBJ & catchers don't start hitting -- let's go Sox


oldcoot - 7/4/2018 at 03:49 PM

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quote:
I lived less than 1/2 mile from Gibson's house in Omaha. Every once in a while my buddies and me would ride our bikes past there and he'd be outside doing some yard work.

Funny thing about the end to the '60 and '62 World Series game sevens. One won by NY, one lost. Ralph Terry was on the mound, and pitcher of record in each. Mazeroski homers and McCovey lines out. Hit 'em where they ain't I guess.



Did he throw rakes at you?



No, he'd actually wave a little sometimes.


Stephen - 7/9/2018 at 02:39 PM

OAKLAND has won 16 of 20 -- gotta hand it to them, competitive almost every year despite a small budget -- now going into a huge series w/Houston -- Jed Lowrie is having a career year -- so is another ex-Sox, Jon Lester, for surging Cubs

WED. NITE., for all the nationally-televised marbles -- Bartolo, 45, vs. Chris Sale

"ChiSox & KC a combined L16, groty"
Now it's an L14, but gro-tier still is the situation at venerable Camden Yards -- players, coaches, upstairs types, concerned alums -- all embarrassed that it's gotten to this point, & if there's any way possible to make something of the season

RIP, Frank Ramsey -- 6th-man prototype, 7 rings w/Celts -- came up here from Kentucky & played 9 tremendous seasons in Boston -- one of the greats indeed

[Edited on 7/9/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/11/2018 at 09:26 PM

You guys might like this. At Comiskey they have these seats called "Scout Seats". We went to the game last night and my wife got them. These are amazing. Buffet, open bar and free everything for the game.

So you walk through this runway to get to your seats. The umpire dressing room is right there en route. You walk right by it. This guy comes running by us and is pounding on the door to the dressing room to try to get in. I thought he had a uniform on of some sort. An attendant lets him in.

Goes in and comes out of the room. He runs by me, almost knocks me over, I spilled my beer on my wife. Told me to get out of his way.

He was one of the umps.

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]


oldcoot - 7/12/2018 at 03:57 PM

quote:
You guys might like this. At Comiskey they have these seats called "Scout Seats". We went to the game last night and my wife got them. These are amazing. Buffet, open bar and free everything for the game.

So you walk through this runway to get to your seats. The umpire dressing room is right there en route. You walk right by it. This guy comes running by us and is pounding on the door to the dressing room to try to get in. I thought he had a uniform on of some sort. An attendant lets him in.

Goes in and comes out of the room. He runs by me, almost knocks me over, I spilled my beer on my wife. Told me to get out of his way.

He was one of the umps.

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]

[Edited on 7/11/2018 by Lee]


I'd have called outside the baseline interference on him for bumping into you.

And if he argued with you, I'd have tossed him!


Lee - 7/12/2018 at 04:07 PM

The beers were free!


Stephen - 7/12/2018 at 04:34 PM

must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool

Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

feel bad for Pedey -- a bad knee is a bad knee & all the hot- **** hi tech modern medical science doesn't change that -- Nunez & Holt have platooned effectively in Dustin's absence --

w/Vasquez out, Sandy now catching backed up by Swihart -- typical overzealous MLB worrywarts, it was actually the protective glove he was wearing that caused Christian's broken finger

TB has done away entirely w/starting pitching -- their 1st pitcher usually goes no more than 2 IP (it was 1 IP last nite)
-- this is a radical trend, which in this day & age of minimum IPs, other teams likely to follow suit -- bottom-line, it's working big-time for them (they've won 14 of 18)

Most Celts fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


[Edited on 7/12/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/12/2018 at 05:04 PM

quote:
must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool
Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

Most fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


What's wrong with David Price?


Stephen - 7/12/2018 at 10:18 PM

quote:
quote:
must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool

Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

feel bad for Pedey -- a bad knee is a bad knee & all the hot- **** hi tech modern medical science doesn't change that -- Nunez & Holt have platooned effectively in Dustin's absence --

w/Vasquez out, Sandy now catching backed up by Swihart -- typical overzealous MLB worrywarts, it was actually the protective glove he was wearing that caused Christian's broken finger

Most Celts fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


What's wrong with David Price?



9-6, 4.44 ERA -- w/a 10-game win streak, not to mention his own 10th win, on the line, guessing David will pitch well


Lee - 7/13/2018 at 10:28 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
must've been a riot when you saw the guy banging on the door, out there on the field umpiring -- the umps, right there w/the fans, cool

Chris Sale last night, radio announcers said, became 1st-ever to throw 5 straight games of at least 11 Ks and 1 or less walk -- in his last 7 games his ERA is under 1.00 they said, along w/other stats -- the guy is so lights out right now, just a stud --

feel bad for Pedey -- a bad knee is a bad knee & all the hot- **** hi tech modern medical science doesn't change that -- Nunez & Holt have platooned effectively in Dustin's absence --

w/Vasquez out, Sandy now catching backed up by Swihart -- typical overzealous MLB worrywarts, it was actually the protective glove he was wearing that caused Christian's broken finger

Most Celts fans had hoped Marcus S would've been signed & in the fold by now -- it hasn't happened, not a good sign -- it should've been 1st order of business


What's wrong with David Price?



9-6, 4.44 ERA -- w/a 10-game win streak, not to mention his own 10th win, on the line, guessing David will pitch well


He hasn't won 10 straight. He's 3-2 in his last 5. I watched the game a couple weeks ago and the Yanks lit him up. His last 3 starts have been rather underwhelming.

Also, I think win/loss record isn't as important as it used to be since they pull starters so early now. Ask Jacob DeGrom. Leads the league in E.R.A. and has only won 5 games!

[Edited on 7/13/2018 by Lee]


Stephen - 7/13/2018 at 02:53 PM

Sox have won 10 straight -- it was David's 10th win

even at this midway point, AL playoff field about set -- altho Seattle slowing down & A's catching up -- both Felix Hernandez, and Paxton, their other good pitcher ar on the DL (bad backs) -- read somewhere King Felix had to stand between innings in his last 2 starts -- Tribe will win Central div by default

MOOKIE BETTS, a grand slam after a 13-pitch AB -- Eduardo R has been awesome -- w/Devers on DL Nunez will go to 3B & Holt stay at 2nd, or vice versa

JBJ a big night last night, also one of his routine hilite-reel catches in Wed. game -- both he & Sandy are starting to hit -- Sandy looms large now w/Christian out

BOSTON RED SOX



[Edited on 7/13/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/13/2018 at 08:45 PM

Thought you meant Price had won 10 straight. He still has a lousy ERA. Not a bad third or fourth guy in the rotation though. Most teams would certainly take him.


Lee - 7/14/2018 at 11:55 AM

Going to the White Sox / Royals game tomorrow. This club has an offer. $12 for an all you can eat BBQ buffet. Shuttle to the game and an outfield ticket. Can't beat that.

This is the same place I saw the TTB two years ago. Small rock club.


oldcoot - 7/14/2018 at 02:43 PM

quote:
Going to the White Sox / Royals game tomorrow. This club has an offer. $12 for an all you can eat BBQ buffet. Shuttle to the game and an outfield ticket. Can't beat that.

This is the same place I saw the TTB two years ago. Small rock club.



It's nice that you also support minor league baseball.


porkchopbob - 7/14/2018 at 03:09 PM

Went to Marlins-Brewers last week. Great ball park in an odd part of the city. Just west of downtown, but in kind of a suburban area of the city. Miami is definitely a soccer town, the crowd (if you can call it that) was mostly us Brew Crew.


Lee - 7/14/2018 at 05:28 PM

quote:
quote:
Going to the White Sox / Royals game tomorrow. This club has an offer. $12 for an all you can eat BBQ buffet. Shuttle to the game and an outfield ticket. Can't beat that.

This is the same place I saw the TTB two years ago. Small rock club.



It's nice that you also support minor league baseball.


Hey, you can get tickets cheaper than a Minor League Game, believe it or not.


Lee - 7/17/2018 at 11:57 AM

Kyle Schwarber got screwed by the Harpers last night. Throwing pitches before the previous ball landed. Where were the officials? This is an outrage!

Couldn't care less other than the fact that I bet on Kyle to win.


Lee - 7/17/2018 at 08:26 PM

A.L. or N.L. tonight?


Lee - 7/19/2018 at 10:46 AM

Cubs best record in The National League!


Stephen - 7/19/2018 at 04:42 PM

THE HARTFORD YARD GOATS
had to look it up, & sure enough -- the pint-sized version of the mountain goats in Colorado -- gotta be the worst name ever, then it makes sense seeing what the 'parent' club is --
wonder when the Yard Goats play the Lake Monsters -- they're both AA

4-year deal for Marcus Smart -- it's about time

[Edited on 7/19/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 7/19/2018 at 04:54 PM

quote:
Cubs best record in The National League!


Brewers slipped a little before the break to Miami and Pittsburgh. Hopefully that changes and they can overtake the flubs.

Should be interesting to see if the Machado trade allows the Dodgers to separate themselves from the pack in the NL West.


Stephen - 7/19/2018 at 05:25 PM

w/2nd-tier pitching (Eduardo/Steven W./Drew P) injured, the pressure falls on the "big 3" now

he opted for early rehab this year, idea being to give the team 1 solid half-season of starts -- it begins tmrw for STEPHEN after 6 weeks off -- 6-6 so far in 13 carefully-monitored starts -- so far this year, 80 IP for Stephen -- in 3rd year of 7-year, $127M contract

as to his brother-in-agony, Clay is in minors rehabbing from his practice swing, "no timetable for return" after 38.2 risks (IPs), parceled out over 7 nerve-wracking starts

many peers going same route -- SF's MadBum 49 IP, Cueto 42 IP so far -- Noah Syndgard of Mets, 69 IP, JdGrom 123 IP tho, a record for him at 1/2way point

but they're all 'healthy' now & how will they hold up -- not very well & LET'S GO SOX, NY can be beat -- what's happened to Jacoby anyway -- surprised no one has picked up Hanley


porkchopbob - 7/19/2018 at 05:36 PM

quote:
but they're all 'healthy' now & how will they hold up -- not very well & LET'S GO SOX, NY can be beat -- what's happened to Jacoby anyway -- surprised no one has picked up Hanley


Yankees also had a dip before the break while the sox went on a tear. Hopefully the Yankees catch up. They've got the hitting, they just need to figure out what to do with Sonny Gray.


Lee - 7/19/2018 at 08:33 PM

I'll take Cleveland and the Cubs in The World Series, although anything can happen of course. Replay 2016. I am curious to see what trades might happen before the deadline. Yankees need another starter. Cubs pitching has question marks.

Maybe Philly sneaks in, who knows? And the Dodgers have certainly made a good turnaround after an awful start.

Should be a fun stretch run!


emr - 7/20/2018 at 02:16 AM

The Dodgers added Manny; yes. But recent history (and a family allegiance the the Giants that goes back 120 years) makes me feel that when push comes to shove they will f**k things up.


Stephen - 7/24/2018 at 07:22 PM

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Pirates gotta get going by pulling away from .500 starting tonite -- However, standing in the way is Clay

MadBum is back, Johnny Cueto & Brandon Belt are nearing returns -- they have Andrew McCutchen & Evan Longoria on a team w/Buster Posey, Hunter Pence
...& w/Pablo Sandoval backwhere he wants to be & playing well -- he looked positively like a speedster legging out an infield hit recently -- Ya The SF Baseball Giants are poised to take over anemic NL West


still think they will -- Longoria is almost ready to return (espn) -- that guy Panik is a good player, he'll be back at some point -- Giants Baseball Club will heat up
LIKE THE BUCS, holy heck -- every so often they really light it up -- that Dickerson kid, cranking

Clay returns tonite -- you know the bat won't come off his shoulder when he's at the plate -- hell even lifting it up there might strain an intercostal yadadada -- 5 IP Max 2nite

the kid threw a 7 IP no-hitter in his debut, after getting hit in the head on a line drive last year in the minors -- great story, altho the bigger, separate one is 'starting pitching' gradually being phased out (his team lost the game)

We Hustle On The Basepaths, Unlike NY's Sanchez -- yes Gary didn't want to get injured in the same fashion his batterymate, Tanaka, did last month -- that's the modern-day game of MLB baseball for ya, & let's go Sox -- Drew returns 2nite, same thing, 4-5 IP max

[Edited on 7/24/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/24/2018 at 09:59 PM

quote:
The Dodgers added Manny; yes. But recent history (and a family allegiance the the Giants that goes back 120 years) makes me feel that when push comes to shove they will f**k things up.


Won a few World Series in the last ten years.


Stephen - 7/24/2018 at 10:26 PM

The Dodgiz? Hadn't thought they'd won any -- thought that's who emr was referring to --
why can't they just say Sanchez was suspended?


emr - 7/25/2018 at 01:07 AM

I was. The Dogers and the Nats have seemingly turned into the Giants and Phillies of the 60's. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory


Stephen - 7/25/2018 at 02:36 AM

Credit must be given -- Mr. Tanaka, a complete game 3-hit shutout -- felt certain it was his 1st ever CG, it's his 3rd
Clay, watta guy -- went better than six IP of one-run ball -- Curious to know if he swung the bat
The Pirates have outscored their opponents 43-6 over their last 5 games, have won 11 straight & 13 of 14
It was 7-5 w/our last at bats coming up, let's go Sox -- Drew, so-so -- about what was expected

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/25/2018 at 01:17 PM

quote:
I was. The Dogers and the Nats have seemingly turned into the Giants and Phillies of the 60's. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory


Thought you meant the Giants obviously.


Stephen - 7/25/2018 at 02:54 PM

"Because Dale Murphy Never Juiced, Should He Be Rewarded For The Home Runs He Never Hit?"
current espn headline

????????????
there's a 1st time for everything obviously
read part of article -- yes, Dale, All American father & grandfather -- it was the lack of drugs that cost him all those HRs --

managed to get thru article -- it's an unabashed I Love Dale Murphy piece -- the writer feels Dale ought to be rewarded for not juicing, by being inducted into the HOF -- the HOF mention is very brief, 99% of it is Dale at home, doting dad & grandad

Let's Go Sox, if that has any place anymore in MLB

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/25/2018 at 06:38 PM

quote:
"Because Dale Murphy Never Juiced, Should He Be Rewarded For The Home Runs He Never Hit?"
current espn headline

????????????
there's a 1st time for everything obviously
read part of article -- yes, Dale, All American father & grandfather -- it was the lack of drugs that cost him all those HRs --

managed to get thru article -- it's an unabashed I Love Dale Murphy piece -- the writer feels Dale ought to be rewarded for not juicing, by being inducted into the HOF -- the HOF mention is very brief, 99% of it is Dale at home, doting dad & grandad

Let's Go Sox, if that has any place anymore in MLB

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


Dale Murphy? What does he have to do with anything? Never knew he played for The Sux.


Stephen - 7/25/2018 at 10:03 PM

I often post about teams besides the Sox -- because Murphy never took steroids, apparently, the article calls for him to be inducted into the HOF in Cooperstown -- the article was posted on ESPN, found it interesting if not a little lame -- take it easy man, you seem stressed nowadays -- Cubs are doing OK, not Tygiz tho

Sox picked up a new pitcher, Eovaldi -- let's go Sox

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 7/26/2018 at 01:07 AM

I understand the thought process re: Dale Murphy. Those who used 100pct seem to be closed out. People who had a cloak of suspicion such as Mike Piazza were delayed. Dale Murphy's numbers per se looked hall of fame quality for Al Kaline say


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:10 AM

quote:
I often post about teams besides the Sox -- because Murphy never took steroids, apparently, the article calls for him to be inducted into the HOF in Cooperstown -- the article was posted on ESPN, found it interesting if not a little lame -- take it easy man, you seem stressed nowadays -- Cubs are doing OK, not Tygiz tho

Sox picked up a new pitcher, Eovaldi -- let's go Sox

[Edited on 7/25/2018 by Stephen]



I didn't see a link to an article or a quote so I didn't understand what you meant. Just confused. I guess I am stressed doctor.


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:31 AM

Regarding Dale Murphy, I have long thought he should be in The HOF. 2,111 hits, 398 HRs. One of the few players to win two consecutive MVPs at the same position.

Look at Kirby Puckett. Same era. 2,304 hits. 207 HRs, .318 batting average. Not exactly earth shattering career totals, batting average notwithstanding. He's in.

From the same time, I think Mattingly should definitely be in.

I also have also thought for a long time that Trammell should be in. Morris somewhat too. Glad to be seeing them being inducted this weekend.

Have to respectfully disagree with the Kaline comparison. over 3,000 hits, just shy of 400 HRs (like Murphy). Youngest player to ever win a batting title. And not that it really matters but he never spent a day in the minor leagues.


emr - 7/26/2018 at 06:56 PM

I guess I agree re: Kaline. But I think the overall point is the use of PED have really swayed how we look at statistics. Nolan Ryan and Randy Johnson (never heard rumours about either) look even better if Roger Clemens' stats are discarded. 30 hr used to be a big deal (Kaline never hit more than 29) Yogi Berra only hit 358 homers, George Brett 317 and Roberto Clemente 240.

Yeah I think Murphy falls short of HOF. Puckett had WS magic and 10 years at the top of his game. Mattingly was one of the best players in the game, but like Ron Guidry his peak was too short.

We just don't know what stats for eras would like like without the juice.

Ive said here many times. Let everyone in and put the players from the PED era in a room with a display explaining the situation (I think the negro league players should have a similar display. Haven't been to Cooperstown since 1967 so I don't know how that's handled)

Bonds and Clemens would have made the hall without steroid; they were both that quality early on. Sammy Sosa wasn't before he turned into the Michelin man


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 07:48 PM

Interesting comments emr. Bonds and Clemens did enough before the juicing. I agree to put them in. I think Bonds won three MVPs before any of this came to light so he would have been in anyway. Clemens would have as well. But I've heard the other side of that coin, that just because they were good before doesn't mean they didn't cheat. I get that. Guess you could throw Pete Rose into the same kind of argument.

Some of these other guys I'm not sure about. Sosa and McGuire are good examples. I don't think they were that great. They just hit a lot of homers. Palmiero I think is a tweener. He is probably worth it I guess. But pointing your finger at the feds, lying about it and then getting busted can't look good.

Baseball has always been a game about stats and today even more so. I don't even know why they have some of these acronyms nowadays.

Regarding the Negro Leagues, I thought there is an exhibit dedicated to that time. Could be wrong I guess.


Stephen - 7/26/2018 at 09:12 PM

Like the different thread names -- was vaguely familiar with the Clev. Spiders -- but not the Indy Clowns -- enjoyed those photos -- there should for sure be a separate HOF section for the Negro League era (if there isn't already), or as you said an ongoing exhibit -- (the Dale Murphy quote & article is at espn.com/mlb
would have to look it up but Philly I think at one time had the Philadelphia Blue Jays (1940s?) -- the Yard Goats, that's my favorite one -- can there be a worse name for a bball team?

Not as sure about a separate HOF section for the accused -- Jose Canseco once stole 40 bases & had 40 HR -- he had a great career -- he, Palmiero, Rose, Dennis McLain, Shoeless Joe, Sosa, all the others named -- they all deserve enshrinement, transgressions or not (not Denny probly) -- & not Murphy for the reasons stated in the espn article -- as a reward for not using PED -- That Is Ludicrous!! he was a good player tho, a Frank Howard/Dave "King Kong" Kingman type

Stephen, Shut Down (it was a 7 year $175M deal, not $127M) -- Creative MLB Terminology 101 -- this time, Stephen's rocking a Cervical Nerve Impingement -- it's the same thing that shut down David Price last year -- that was a good one, "unspecified elbow ailment" -- both had/are having clubhouse difficulties, David w/the media last year, Stephen w/Scherzer now

can't keep track of all the trades -- let's go Sox -- don't see what is so great about Eovaldi, seems about in Drew P. territory I guess

[Edited on 7/26/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:22 PM

Not positive but I think Satchell Paige played for the Indy Clowns.

And Denny McClain only belongs in prison. And this coming from a Tiggers fan.

Sadly, his daughter died in a car accident years ago in Michigan. Not far from where I grew up.


Lee - 7/26/2018 at 09:24 PM

Yankees just got J.A Happ. Guess Toronto threw in the towel.


Lee - 7/27/2018 at 11:09 AM

quote:
Like the different thread names -- was vaguely familiar with the Clev. Spiders -- but not the Indy Clowns -- enjoyed those photos -- there should for sure be a separate HOF section for the Negro League era (if there isn't already), or as you said an ongoing exhibit -- (the Dale Murphy quote & article is at espn.com/mlb
would have to look it up but Philly I think at one time had the Philadelphia Blue Jays (1940s?) -- the Yard Goats, that's my favorite one -- can there be a worse name for a bball team?



I had never heard of the Yard Goats. Figured they were an independent league team. Was surprised to learn they are a double A team.

Minor leagues are fun. Lots of goofy things there including the names.

Several years ago when I was in grad school at Michigan State, there was a single A team in Lansing, just down the street from the capital. They were in the Cubs organization. Their name was the Lansing Lugnuts. There was some poll (maybe ESPN) and they won for having the best name. I think it's cute but didn't find it THAT funny.

They have two mascots: Big Lug, a large macho male and Ratchet, a demure female. Ratchet always took down Big Lug. It was kind of funny.


Stephen - 7/27/2018 at 02:53 PM

Too funny -- they're the LBS 49ers, and their baseball team has its own name, the Dirtbags!?!?! Yard Goats now 2nd place

Players from Jered Weaver to Evan Longoria, wlkpdia said, have been/donned the uniform of, Dirtbags -- great one -- also, wlkpddia mentioned "pitcher Dick Nen," he was actually an INF w/Wash Sens --they probly meant Robb Nen

Would think they'd be fair game for the leather lungs at road games -- "ah ya buncha no-good low-life Dirtbags, Get Outta Here!"......

Lug Nuts, a good one too -- around here there's the Lake Monsters -- the NH Fisher Cats (I Think Tor BJays' AA team) -- I believe it's the Lowell River Rats in Mass. -- but the Dirtbags, that's too funny

[Edited on 7/27/2018 by Stephen]


leafsfan - 7/27/2018 at 04:15 PM

quote:
Yankees just got J.A Happ. Guess Toronto threw in the towel.



Didn't even have a towel in the race. Jays are a disaster this year. Prospects coming but one or two 5 stars won;t change much.


Lee - 7/27/2018 at 07:03 PM

quote:
Too funny -- they're the LBS 49ers, and their baseball team has its own name, the Dirtbags!?!?!




The T shirt I purchased from the university says so. They had no problem taking my money. Nickname maybe?

Probably a story behind it I imagine.


Stephen - 7/31/2018 at 04:43 PM

would love to have been at Seattle-Houston last nite -- 9 clean innings of errorless baseball w/just 5 pitchers handcuffing hitters/baffling batters in a big game that took just 2:19 -- don't see enough of these games

for the 1st time ever, diminutive-dynamo MVP & top player today, Jose Altuve to DL -- they'll feel that obviously, but they've also done well w/out C. Correa -- if Seattle wins next 2, & there's a good chance of it, even w/no King Felix -- it's a new race -- Oakland still right there

Felix has, however, been hammered his last 2-3 starts & now might become spot starter w/ Erasmus (?) R, returning from rehab, their espn website says

We Have To Maintain The 5-6 Games On Them Going Into Wknd -- numerous new players for both teams -- Hanley you aren't forgotten -- Dustin, maybe/mayb not this year

BOSTON RED SOX


Stephen - 8/2/2018 at 05:11 PM

Sox Yankees, it's never not-huge -- Rick-Luis Severino tmrw nite, David-Masahiro Tanaka Sun nite -- goin the way he was, Chris should have an inflamed shoulder more often

there are other huge games too, M's need Felix to pitch like a king tonite, they lost twice to Altuve-less 'stros -- word, his spot in the rotation in the balance -- ERA 5.60

Comebacking aces MadBum (3-4) and Clayton K (4-5) pitching against Zack Grienke (12-5) and J.Chacin (10-3)

Again, it's all in background -- hated Brawnx Bombiz at Fenway on a midsummer weekend -- SAWX -- watta chance to pull away going into the dog days of Aug., doubt it'll happen tho


[Edited on 8/2/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 8/2/2018 at 08:58 PM

One would have made a lot of money betting that kale and mad bum combined would have under 10 wins

With cueto toast my giants are done. Venus and mars need to align if every game u play has a score of 5-4 and you have no big bopper


Lee - 8/2/2018 at 10:19 PM

quote:
One would have made a lot of money betting that kale and mad bum combined would have under 10 wins

With cueto toast my giants are done. Venus and mars need to align if every game u play has a score of 5-4 and you have no big bopper



I put in some prop bets before the season started. One was that Cuerto would win at least 13 games. Was holding out hope all season. Obviously that's not happening.

Giants should trade McCutchen. Who cares if he doesn't clear waivers?


Stephen - 8/2/2018 at 11:56 PM

NEW YORK -- New York Mets left-hander Steven Matz was diagnosed with a mild flexor pronator strain in his left forearm on Thursday and could be placed on the disabled list.

Matz didn't get out of the first inning of his most recent start. He allowed seven runs on eight hits in what became a 25-4 loss at Washington on Tuesday, the most lopsided defeat in Mets history.

Matz complained of tightness in his left forearm after the game. An MRI on Thursday showed mild inflammation but did not reveal any structural damage.
______________________________________________________________________
HE STUNK THE JOINT OUT -- "complained of tightness" afterward, what Horseshit
My gosh, these fellas are such wimps -- :brokenrecord,Iknow:

[Edited on 8/2/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/3/2018 at 02:41 PM

quote:
quote:
One would have made a lot of money betting that kale and mad bum combined would have under 10 wins

With cueto toast my giants are done. Venus and mars need to align if every game u play has a score of 5-4 and you have no big bopper



I put in some prop bets before the season started. One was that Cuerto would win at least 13 games. Was holding out hope all season. Obviously that's not happening.

Giants should trade McCutchen. Who cares if he doesn't clear waivers?


Yes, w/Pablo now out too, row a little longer to hoe for Giants -- but they won 8-1 last nite --

forget Machado, LA holdovers Cody Bellinger & Yasiel Puig did as much damage as anybody (21-5) in their game

Steve Pearce, unbelievable -- his 3 last nite gives 8 for season, 28 RBI w/.316 BA -- thought Brandon Phillips would be a presence too, he's still in Pawtucket

it won't be anything like that tonite (22 total runs) -- 6 runs total, max -- good one, Rick (13-4) vs. Severino (14-4) -- glad they took CC out early last nite (3 IP) -- Mookie reached base all 6 ABs -- Xander (wrist) is listed as day to day -- SAWX



[Edited on 8/3/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/3/2018 at 07:51 PM

Hard to pick against L.A. in the N.L.

And I think the Yanks need to take the next three this weekend. Still two months to go of course but if they don't take at least two of the next three they might already be in trouble.


Stephen - 8/4/2018 at 02:39 PM

We won't continue at this rate over the final 2 mos -- Sawx could hit a rough patch, it just doesn't seem like that the way we're goin right now -- but if so, ideally it will be as the walking wounded gradually return --

Rick, Watta Guy -- 0 BB, 9 K's -- ZERO LOB For NY, in the books in just 2:15 -- a masterpiece -- Verlander also had a great game (14 K's), surprised he didn't finish his

it happens often -- a new kid comes outta nowhere to pitch a gem in his debut, like the kid in the NL a few weeks ago -- it's Sawx tho, so chancey proposition for their kid 2day

Steve Pearce Is A Yankee Killer -- David Price Is A Yankee Killee -- no betr time than tmrw nite for David to make like Steve

WATTA TEAM -- Xander, Mookie, Benintendi -- jumpstarting an immense machine -- Sandy has no backup now tho -- again the baseball gods can frown as well as smile


[Edited on 8/4/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/6/2018 at 02:45 PM

We're overdue for a frown -- they didn't have Judge or G Sanchez -- the kid made a decent-enough play bottom 9th, just shorthopped the throw from deep 3B, gifting it to xtra innings -- also, JBJ's headsup baserunning made it happen too, he was in full-motor mode from 2B the minute the ball was hit -- the ball only bounced a few feet away from the NY 1st baseman when it shorthopped, but Jackie had it beat & Tie Game Baby, Ya
Xander has same thing Judge has, wrist/HBP

Sawx are 1st in MLB in team BA W/runners in scoring position -- .285

One wonders -- did Hanley's release jigger the lineup & somehow open up more options -- also, would Hanley be doing what Steve Pearce is doing -- it's no 2 ways, we've gone crazy ever since

two of game's biggest stars, Chris Sale & Jose Altuve, will miss more time than originally thought


[Edited on 8/6/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/6/2018 at 03:28 PM

quote:

Also, I think win/loss record isn't as important as it used to be since they pull starters so early now. Ask Jacob DeGrom. Leads the league in E.R.A. and has only won 5 games!

[Edited on 7/13/2018 by Lee]


Yep, 3 weeks later, same thing -- has won 5 games, & has a 1.85 ERA -- if not for Max Scherzer he'd be in contention for the CY IMO -- while possibly having won 10 or less games -- it's comparable to Lefty's 1972 season w/Phils

THE PHIRST-PLACE PHILLIES -- what a turnaround, now a battle of 1st-placers w/AZ -- the other 1st-placer, LAD, visits Oakland in a top-flight interleaguer -- A's have simply gone off, them & us 2 hottest since All Star break

Let's go Sox -- hopefully that knee thing isn't too serious for Altuve, the game needs honest gritty players like him -- & like Dustin (5-9) -- both having knee problems

OUTTA CONTROL, that's the 2018 Sox, keep it goin boys -- Chris & Eduardo back in 2 weeks or so


Lee - 8/7/2018 at 12:10 PM

Boy this is sad. How much money does the guy need?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-former-mlb-pitcher-esteban-loaiza-expected- plead-guilty-felony-drug-case-044003571.html


emr - 8/7/2018 at 12:53 PM

In 1987 Nolan Ryan went 8-16 with a 2.76 era and 270 striekouts in 212 innings. He finished 5th in the Cy Young voting


Stephen - 8/7/2018 at 04:48 PM

Sure envy Bay Area bball fans -- Houston at SF this afternoon, MadBum (4-4) vs. former Cy winner Dallas Keuchel (9-9) -- let's go Giants, they can play thru their injuries

& the Dodgiz across the bay tonight -- A's don't draw that well for some reason, would be surprised tho if that was the case for this series -- winning it would show once & for all Oak is for real -- Seattle falling behind & King Felix Must pitch effectively vs. last-place Tex tonite, even w/Bartolo, 45, as his opposite number

never knew Nolan had that kind of year, Wow -- he shoulda been top dog, or top 3 at least
when he pitched for the Tribe late 1960s, Luis Tiant had a similar year -- lost 20 games w/a sub- 2.00 ERA, IIRC
deGrom pitches high noon tmrw vs. Reds -- ya here comes 7 IP, 3 hits, 1 run, 1 BB, 9K -- & Mets lose 4-2

yes, outta control to this point in the season -- keep it goin Sox, Watta Treat

[Edited on 8/7/2018 by Stephen]


emr - 8/7/2018 at 05:03 PM

You are mixing up two year for El Tiante! He was 21-9 with the 1.60 ERA in 1968 - didn't get a vote (despite higher WAR) for Cy Young cause that waas the year Denny McLain won 30 and was a unanimus winner.

Still have fond memories of him pitching for the Red Sox and celebrating with a cigar aafterwards in the Jacuzzi


Lee - 8/9/2018 at 11:11 AM

Nice story. This former groundskeeper from the White Sox spent 23 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. Jerry Reinsdorf presented him with a 2005 World Series ring. I think he wasn't able to watch The World Series. Think Jack Nickolson in Cuckoo's Nest.


Lee - 8/11/2018 at 12:00 PM

If you are a die hard baseball fan, come to Chicago today. Cubs play a day game. After that, walk to the El train and get off at Comiskey and catch The Sux for their night game.

At least at Comiskey you can afford to be there.

[Edited on 8/11/2018 by Lee]


Stephen - 8/13/2018 at 02:29 PM

Two of the greats, Barry Bonds & Jack Morris, honored ystrdy in SF & Det
"VOTE THE GUY IN!" -- It came from Willie Mays himself, Barry's godfather -- Morris was inducted into the HOF earlier this month
Jim Leyland was Unequivocal about Bonds ystrdy in SF -- "without question the best I ever managed -- we should feel lucky that we got to watch him play"


Stephen - 8/13/2018 at 03:08 PM

quote:
I'll take Cleveland and the Cubs in The World Series, although anything can happen of course. Replay 2016. I am curious to see what trades might happen before the deadline. Yankees need another starter. Cubs pitching has question marks.

Maybe Philly sneaks in, who knows? And the Dodgers have certainly made a good turnaround after an awful start.

Should be a fun stretch run!


Yes it should -- we see Philly this week -- it's SF at Chavez Ravine, when is that not-huge -- series du jour is Oakland-Seattle after M's swept Altuve-less 'stros
But yes, a lot did happen b4 the deadline -- a possible Tribe-Cubs WS seems unlikely as of right now but as you said, anything can happen

but holy **** -- 50 games over .500? -- almost no sense to it really & couldn't've been forseen but no complaints & let's go Sox -- has there ever been a more valuable .215 hitter than JBJ?, NO -- there's a different guy coming up big every time


Stephen - 8/13/2018 at 03:20 PM

quote:
You are mixing up two year for El Tiante! He was 21-9 with the 1.60 ERA in 1968 - didn't get a vote (despite higher WAR) for Cy Young cause that waas the year Denny McLain won 30 and was a unanimus winner.

Still have fond memories of him pitching for the Red Sox and celebrating with a cigar aafterwards in the Jacuzzi


Ya that's right, thx -- he set the record back then for strikeouts in consecutive games (32), which I think sorta threw me (not to mention a foggy brain ), but that indeed was in 1968 -- 9-20, 3.71 ERA the next year (1969)

his 2 greatest games bookended his career -- in his July 1964 MLB debut silenced WS champion NYY on 4 singles to shut out Whitey Ford & Co 3-0

then Oct. 1 1978 & his 2-hitter over Tor that kept our playoff hopes alive in his last game w/Sox
Luis went 21-17 over next 2 years w/NY before finishing w/Pirates

along the way his 5-hitter 9/16/65 at Fenway


Lee - 8/14/2018 at 09:51 PM

Looking forward to the pennant races this year. Even with the extra wild card teams there are a few that can conceivably win 90+ and not get in.

Interesting.

And the Yanks could play the "real" first round against Boston. That would be fun. Team that has the record for most wins in a season (Seattle) didn't go too far.


Stephen - 8/15/2018 at 02:58 PM

It's still early, the AL West could become a 3-way horserace down the stretch, although no Paxton for Seattle for awhile -- that liner stung, no doubt about it -- should be mad-race for WC & div title

same NL West, any of those 4 teams could win div -- still like SF's chances

Let's go Sox, watta team, HOLY **** ARE WE KILLIN IT OR WHAT -- Rick, 15th win last nite -- batterymate Sandy coming up big -- Brock pinch-hit HR, unbelievable


Lee - 8/15/2018 at 09:12 PM

quote:


Let's go Sox, watta team, HOLY **** ARE WE KILLIN IT OR WHAT -- Rick, 15th win last nite -- batterymate Sandy coming up big -- Brock pinch-hit HR, unbelievable




Well... they did beat the Tigers today but they are still only Kansas City away from last place.


fensranger - 8/16/2018 at 01:13 PM

nice to live in boston and be a fan these days. Their teams are contending for championships in all 4 major sports at the same time. doesn't get much better for sports fans. Unfortunately, i live in NY


Sang - 8/16/2018 at 05:02 PM

Nice to see the Cardinals showing some life.................


Stephen - 8/16/2018 at 05:09 PM

Sawx got all the love at the moment (I don't live in Boston either btw ) -- I mean JD Martinez has become almost as big a monster this year as the Green Monster -- & Andrew Benintendi, a versatile, speedy slugger -- didn't at 1st think he'd become the player he is, another Jacoby Ellsbury in his prime -- people like Kinsler, Swihart, Christian V, Wright waiting to return.......

also, Houston visits Oakland this wknd -- sometimes Oak's stadium capacity is listed at 35,000, but it was more for the Dodgers series -- maybe they open their upper deck or something (last of the "cookie cutter" stadiums?) -- but that's a good race too -- no new word on Altuve, Seattle right there, Felix back in rotation etc etc

StL doing what I was hoping Pirates would be -- Cubs visit Bucs this wknd, Bucs need a sweep to stay in it -- Cards-Milwaukee this wknd, crucial -- suddenly Braves are hot & gaining space on Phils etc etc

MEANWHILE, WE SMOKE -- TB will try that goofball pitching approach (starter goes 1-2 innings), it won't work -- we're all the sh!t this year, let's go Sox

[Edited on 8/16/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/16/2018 at 05:33 PM

Stanton has certainly turned his season around. I wonder if the Yankee fans are still complaining about them signing him?


Stephen - 8/20/2018 at 04:56 PM

quote:
I'll take Cleveland and the Cubs in The World Series, although anything can happen of course. Replay 2016.


They're both 71-52 -- make no mistake it's an autumn atmosphere this week, esp tonite w/15-game winners Rick & Kluber --
we haven't hit a rough patch in a long time -- to show how hot we've been, Mookie has gone hitless his last 2 games -- his longest cold stretch of the season

but yes, Cubs in 1st place in NL -- Bucs Are 5 1/2 out In WC w/Atlnta visiting -- heat is on Braves too, they're L4 -- Sawx, Tribe, NY, Oak & Houstn is how it looks rite now in AL --

it's no secret tho, if Felix pitches like Felix & they win-solid tonite, it could ignite a sweep over Houstn putting Seattle right back in it while all eyes are on Fenway

Machado & LAD so-so so far -- my pick SF, wellll, mayb next yr -- CLAY -- a 5-hitter -- his 1st CG since 2015 -- so, w/Grienke, Godley etc, now it's hard to bet against Clay Buchholz, Paul Goldschmidt & ARIZONA in NL West -- Colo is right there

[Edited on 8/20/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 8/20/2018 at 05:06 PM

quote:
Stanton has certainly turned his season around. I wonder if the Yankee fans are still complaining about them signing him?


I haven't heard any Yanks fans questioning Stanton since May, and even then it was because Castro had a lot of fans. With Judge out (and Sanchez disappearing), they've certainly need his bat. They are still having an amazing season, well ahead in the WC, if it weren't for Boston having a crazy good season.

quote:
but yes, Cubs in 1st place in NL -- Bucs Are 5 1/2 out In WC w/Atlnta visiting


Brewers are still in 2nd place with the pesky Cards on their heals. Crew needs to finish strong if they don't retake 1st place since everyone is pretty close.


Lee - 8/21/2018 at 09:10 PM

Cubs get Danial Murphy. Interesting. Not sure exactly why but I suppose it is because Kris Bryant is hurt and they can mover the infield around.


Stephen - 8/21/2018 at 11:19 PM

They've shut down Yu Darvish too -- thought Wash had shut down Stephen too, he's back tmrw nite tho, even tho it's likely too late to make any diff

How special was that though -- Oakland's Khris Bryant had a Make A Wish kid sign his jersey, then belted a home run for the kid
In front of all of 9,000 fans -- shame on A's fans, that's one of the top teams in MLB -- they only come on weekends

The Boston Beaneaters, yaman
That's sure a whole lot better than the WooSox -- it should be BooSox
PawSox will mark their 50th anniversary in Pawtucket in 2020, by bidding adieu to move to Worcester in 2021
Brand new stadium, better access etc etc -- it's progress I guess

[Edited on 8/22/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/22/2018 at 11:34 AM

The Nats are a mess. Yet they have hung onto Harper when he is a free agent after the season. Don't get that at all.


porkchopbob - 8/22/2018 at 03:20 PM

Cards are surging, just passed the Crew. Brewers better wake up.

I was at the Yanks-Marlins game last night. Nice win for the Yanks in extra innings, but injury bug seems to be hovering - Judge, Gregorious, and now possibly Chapman.


Stephen - 8/22/2018 at 06:05 PM

bases full, 1 out in the 11th
then bases full 0 out for Miami in 12th -- NY escaped both times -- credit to them, they've played well w/out Judge & Sanchez -- our 2 series next month w/them will be pivotal, obviously

we gotta get a split -- bats have been quiet -- Tribe is for real, we knew that
still too soon to count Bucs, SF or Wash out of the WC -- still wanna see a Stepheno-hitter this season -- 6-7 IP, 0 hits -- mayb 2nite -- also 2nite, Clay goes up against Odrisamer

Let's Go Sox

[Edited on 8/22/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 8/22/2018 at 06:18 PM

quote:
bases full, 1 out in the 11th
then bases full 0 out for Miami in 12th -- NY escaped both times -- credit to them, they've played well w/out Judge & Sanchez -- our 2 series next month w/them will be pivotal, obviously


Yanks have definitely missed Judge and Sanchez's bat, but they're better off with Romine behind the plate.


Lee - 8/22/2018 at 07:09 PM

quote:
bases full, 1 out in the 11th
then bases full 0 out for Miami in 12th -- NY escaped both times -- credit to them, they've played well w/out Judge & Sanchez -- our 2 series next month w/them will be pivotal, obviously





I dunno. Can't see Bawston blowing their lead.


Stephen - 8/24/2018 at 03:10 PM

The schedule is favorable, true -- at 90 wins we're tied w/1912 team for most wins thru 129 games, paper said
Carson Continues To Convalesce -- going into 2019, will have pitched a total of 23.2 innings since arriving in 2015 -- how many 'procedures' can 1 arm take anyway
TYLER -- since his return, 17.1 meticulously if-not medically parceled-out IP over 19 carefully-monitored appearances -- 18 hits, 8 ER, 4.15 ERA

on the field, series du jour, StL & Colo are both WCs right now -- key interleaguer, Seattle visits AZ -- Clay 7-2, 2.25 -- he's had these streaks b4, but then invariably, The Strain -- oft-injured, injury-prone, they all are yadada -- he & the G's, a combined 32-16

Dustin's status is open to debate, the thinking being if his knee hasn't healed up enough by now..........He'll Show Up 2019 Spring Training If Not B4, So Let's Go SAWX

[Edited on 8/24/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 8/24/2018 at 04:46 PM

Michael Kopech's tweets of the White Sux from when he was in high school years ago were revealed. Same day as his first start. Interesting timing from someone. Curious to see what the media does with this.

Guess anyone can spin this anyway they want to.


Stephen - 8/24/2018 at 10:05 PM

It might come back to haunt him -- he'll probably go in for sensitivity training, even those these tweets were from long ago
What I'd like to know is, why did it take Sox owner John Henry 15 years to become "haunted" by the supposedly-racist legacy of Tom Yawkey -- have lost quite a bit for John Henry

Chris Bosio won't pursue, by the look of it, his wrongful-termination lawsuit against Det. -- he wouldn't have a chance, not when a racial slur was alleged, whether he was in the right or not

The guy who hurt himself last year at ChiSox' stadium, then sued ChiSox saying they were at fault for the injury, has his lawyers together and is pressing charges --
this happened Wed. night with Mitch Moreland at Fenway -- will Mitch sue? You wouldn't think so, but the BoSox have dragged Tom Yawkey's name through the mud too -- the man who owned & loved the Red Sox for some 40 years -- so you never know -- Mitch might wait to see how the ChiSox case is decided

Finally the Gwynn family's lawsuit against the company that made the chew Tony was partial to as he belted the ball for a career .338 average, is set for Sept. 2019

LOOK OUT, NY has a new kid, Voit -- let's go Sawx

[Edited on 8/25/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 8/30/2018 at 04:51 PM

They've won 11 of 15 & have pulled into a tie w/Tygz as we visit the south side of Chicago this wknd

The #s don't lie -- Abreu (doubles) -- Anderson (SB) -- & yes, .220 BA & all, Yoan (triples) …. all among league leaders

a supposed 'think tank' of baseball geeks, using analytics, sabermetrics etc, did a statistical/computer study a year or 2 ago -- Result it came up with, CHISOX had more good incoming talent than most anybody, in projecting 2019 as a year "they could contend for the pennant" -- a kid named Rutherford was mentioned -- another kid, Jiminez, has torn up Triple A apparently -- Kopech, the reason they traded Sale to us, is the talk of the league

As to Chris, "no timetable on return", get back quick big guy -- David has been on fire the whole 2nd half, let him not be out long -- Eduardo Returns Saturday -- Rick, a horse

NY has played well w/out DidiG as well as Judge & Sanchez -- Houston is going crazy w/Altuve back -- same LAD, suddenly they're W5 going into their own huge wknd series w/AZ -- Oak #1 starter Manea is out -- Seattle fading fast -- so forth so on, the magic of Sept. bball


Stephen - 8/30/2018 at 05:00 PM

The Kid, The Splendid Splinter
he called the press corps "the knights of the keyboard"
.388 BA at age 40 in 1958

Ted Williams, Aug. 30 1918-July 5 2002

would be among career top 3 in HR, RBI & hits but for military service -- he & Bob Feller would still be top 3s had they played their whole careers


porkchopbob - 8/30/2018 at 05:09 PM

Yelich hits for the cycle, and Brewers are trailing in 3rd place. Killing me. Cards are always a thorn in their side.


Lee - 8/30/2018 at 05:30 PM

Tiggers are about ready to make their move!


Lee - 8/30/2018 at 05:34 PM

Think I saw the O's have officially been eliminated from playoff contention.

Not that it should surprise anyone. What a mess. I feel bad for Showalter.


[Edited on 8/30/2018 by Lee]


Stephen - 8/31/2018 at 02:46 PM

Like the names -- the Lehigh Valley Ironpigs , another good one -- there's the Roswell Invaders of the Pecos League -- also the Las Vegas 51s in the PCL -- from Section 51 from the UFO days -- nothing tops the Dirtbags tho -- Yard Goats still 2nd pl

but it's TB-Tribe, -- their new-age pitching approach rotation has panned out, Tampa has played their way into contention, unblievbl --

Seattle-Oakland, Seattle has had a brutal schedule (Houstn, Oaklnd, LAD, Houstn, AZ, then San Diego for 2 games leading into their current series, nasty)
-- Oak's pitching is dinged up tho -- this marquee matchup only drew 10G last nite -- a crucial series for M's

Andrew McC now goes to NY -- meantime we're in hostile windy environment where Chris made his mark (altho only 18G there last nite) --

David will miss next start -- Steven W, who knows, but the same surgeon last year did the knee operations both on he and Dustin -- & both haven't played this year

We Have To At Least Split W/Surging ChiSox & Hold The Fort Until Chris & David Get Back -- we start Sept w/2 tough series against div leaders Atlnta & Houstn
We're Tops This Year, let's go Sox


[Edited on 8/31/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 8/31/2018 at 03:15 PM

quote:
Think I saw the O's have officially been eliminated from playoff contention.

Not that it should surprise anyone. What a mess. I feel bad for Showalter.


Every team has to bottom out and clean house every few years it seems. Speaking of, the Royals are also officially eliminated.


Lee - 8/31/2018 at 04:02 PM

quote:
Like the names -- the Lehigh Valley Ironpigs , another good one -- there's the Roswell Invaders of the Pecos League -- also the Las Vegas 51s in the PCL -- from Section 51 from the UFO days -- nothing tops the Dirtbags tho -- Yard Goats still 2nd pl

but it's TB-Tribe, -- their new-age pitching approach rotation has panned out, Tampa has played their way into contention, unblievbl --

Seattle-Oakland, Seattle has had a brutal schedule (Houstn, Oaklnd, LAD, Houstn, AZ, then San Diego for 2 games leading into their current series, nasty)
-- Oak's pitching is dinged up tho -- this marquee matchup only drew 10G last nite -- a crucial series for M's

Andrew McC now goes to NY -- meantime we're in hostile windy environment where Chris made his mark (altho only 18G there last nite) --

David will miss next start -- Steven W, who knows, but the same surgeon last year did the knee operations both on he and Dustin -- & both haven't played this year

We Have To At Least Split W/Surging ChiSox & Hold The Fort Until Chris & David Get Back -- we start Sept w/2 tough series against div leaders Atlnta & Houstn
We're Tops This Year, let's go Sox


[Edited on 8/31/2018 by Stephen]


Yeah some of those minor league names are really funny. I know a lot of them but some are quite out there.

Regarding your Sawx, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Yanks had a slight chance when they got to within six but I think they just have to settle for having a great record and only making the wildcard.


porkchopbob - 8/31/2018 at 04:43 PM

quote:
Regarding your Sawx, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Yanks had a slight chance when they got to within six but I think they just have to settle for having a great record and only making the wildcard.


It's bizarre the season the Yanks are having even though it doesn't feel like victory to have to settle for the WC.

If you're ever looking for cool old obscure throwbacks, check out Ebbets Field sports apparel: https://www.ebbets.com/

Some really cool old minor league reproductions






DanB - 9/1/2018 at 01:26 PM

on the CCU title
we played a showcase tournament there and the stadium is better than most minor league places


Stephen - 9/1/2018 at 01:45 PM

The Pawtucket Clam Eaters
if right is right, they'll wear their vintage Clam Eaters uniforms in 2020, their last year in Pawtucket -- too bomb, as is that website
the Decatur Commies? -- 1950 was the McCarthy era/height of anti-communist fervor, & commies were considered The Enemy -- didn't think the Dirtbags would have any competition, but they do
"ya commie bastids, go back to Russia!" -- Commies might've heard that plenty -- even in Decatur


Lee - 9/1/2018 at 09:21 PM

McCarthy's Cincinnati Redlegs anyone?


Stephen - 9/4/2018 at 04:24 PM

drawing a blank -- don't think Joe McCarthy managed the Redlegs, that's a stab in the dark tho -- same Dowdy Finklen Stadium -- I like that bettah than all the corporately-sponsored names nowadays, as nice as the stadiums indeed are

slight change in topic -- Vinegar Bend Mizell?
Cards fans well remembr the LHP's Sept 1 1958 gem -- hailed from Vinegar Bend, ALA
Vinegar Bend -- hadn't heard of him before -- he was full of piss & vinegar on that day, establishing an NL record by walking nine batters without giving up a run.



[Edited on 9/4/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/5/2018 at 03:08 PM

The things you learn -- Vinegar Bend was 13-5 on the 1960 world champion Pirates -- shocked I never heard of this guy -- 90-88 in career, then moved to NC where he became a congressman

Corey Kluber has a very good chance at 20 wins, he has KC 2nite for # 18 -- Severino also tries for 18th 2nite but Oak is a different kettle of fish -- the Kansas City Athletics they aren't , altho Royales 8-2 L10

it's deja vu all over again -- like 1978, 1 of the top 2 teams will go home early -- they're missing Judge, Chapman & Gregorius -- it'sa bad Sale Price right now for us (they're expected back shortly)

Astros won WS & are right there as we get ready for them this wknd -- gritty veteran Verlander goes 2nite, he hasn't had a good 2nd half -- same Felix, & Seattle looking unlikely for postseason -- they won 18 of 23 earlier this season, TB set to overtake them now -- in July Tampa was 15 games behind M's

BOSTON RED SOX


[Edited on 9/5/2018 by Stephen]


Lee - 9/5/2018 at 09:11 PM

quote:
drawing a blank -- don't think Joe McCarthy managed the Redlegs, that's a stab in the dark tho -- same Dowdy Finklen Stadium -- I like that bettah than all the corporately-sponsored names nowadays, as nice as the stadiums indeed are

slight change in topic -- Vinegar Bend Mizell?
Cards fans well remembr the LHP's Sept 1 1958 gem -- hailed from Vinegar Bend, ALA
Vinegar Bend -- hadn't heard of him before -- he was full of piss & vinegar on that day, establishing an NL record by walking nine batters without giving up a run.



[Edited on 9/4/2018 by Stephen]


Ha Ha! You misunderstood. Not Joe, the Yankee Manager, I meant Joseph McCarthy who was a senator in the 50s who tried to convince the world that everyone was a Communist. Since the color red was associated with Communism, Cincinnati changed their name from the Red to the Redlegs for a few years. That's what I meant.


porkchopbob - 9/5/2018 at 10:16 PM

quote:
the Decatur Commies? -- 1950 was the McCarthy era/height of anti-communist fervor, & commies were considered The Enemy -- didn't think the Dirtbags would have any competition, but they do
"ya commie bastids, go back to Russia!" -- Commies might've heard that plenty -- even in Decatur


It's weird how times change, and reminds you how old baseball is. The Decatur Commodores were founded in 1900, before any "Red" communist scares in the decades later, so "Commie" wasn't any more strange than "Bridegrooms" or "Red Leg". The Decatur Commodores briefly shared a stadium with the town's football team, the Decatur Staleys, who eventually moved to Chicago and changed their name to "Bears".


Stephen - 9/6/2018 at 02:45 AM

What shock -- highly touted Ohtani shows up, immediately hurts his arm as only MLB pitchers do, & now, with all of 51 IP under his belt -- to undergo Tommy John surgery -- (then he goes & hits a HR) -- they all opt for it, even pitching 6 innings or so every 4-5 days, & Even That Is Becoming Considered Too Much & Gradually Phased Out -- it's a huge change in bball

Clay is on a tear -- 2 runs over last 17 innings -- came out aftr the 5th inning his last start -- they followed that using 6 relievers over the final 4 innings -- the strategic benefit of that approach eludes me but they wouldn't be doing it etc etc etc

pitch counts are the most injurious thing to ever happen to pitchers -- the record proves it

The LF never moved a muscle, OMGosh what a laser rip that was -- by hometown (anti)-hero Brandon Phillips, capping mad Sox rally


[Edited on 9/6/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/6/2018 at 05:25 PM

catchers Christian Vasquez back for us, Sanchez for them, key -- huge series', Houston, & they're in Seattle -- David Starts Tmrw Nite -- still no word on Chris -- no McCullers no sweat for them, he's oft-injured anyway & out frequently -- they're right on NY's heels

playoffs have begun for Bucs, SF & Wash -- still mathematically alive but it's must-win time -- Bucs have Miami this wknd, that's favorable -- Stephen makes an appearance 2nite vs. league-leading Cubs, yep 6 IP of polished professional pitching in store -- & Cubs win late

wattabout that rally -- the team is deep & well balanced -- Dave Dombrowski has done a great job with the budget he's had to work with -- (read, blank check ) -- howaboutitBOSOX

[Edited on 9/6/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/7/2018 at 03:45 PM

it'd be cool to see the 1968 WS acknowledged this wknd w/StL in Detroit -- 31 game winner McLain vs. glowering Bob Gibson of the 1.12 ERA -- still probly the greatest most-anticipated ever

Mookie & JD, tied at .335 -- David & Gerritt Cole a combined 27-11 going into 2nite -- Tanaka & Paxton a combined 21-10

Snell of TB gets 18th win 2nite, Carrasco likely # 17 & that Tribe pitching -- Michael Brantley has finally played a full season
smug, holier-than-thou, know-nothing SCHMUCKS can take away Chief Wahoo but he lives on in the real fans -- his drum is the heartbeat of the Tribe -- team & fans


Stephen - 9/7/2018 at 04:18 PM

quote:
w/Grienke, Godley etc, now it's hard to bet against Clay Buchholz, Paul Goldschmidt & ARIZONA in NL West -- Colo is right there



now it's Colo (W5), & AZ is slumping - div playoffs begin for Rockies, they have Dodgiz this wknd, D-backs aftr that
AZ used 8 pitchers vs. Atlnta last night, so did Braves

Phils suddenly skidding outta contention........SO WHAT, A TV audience of millions will see Rick & a team at his/their peak on TV Sund nite -- it's no wonder SOX fans are everywhere, they certainly were in Atlnta -- esp when Brandon Phillips crushed that HR Wed. nite -- he's from there & was a noted HS athlete in the Atlanta area

playoff atmosphere w/autumn in the air at Fenway (heat wave is over) -- we have to do good against them, we'll likely see them again


Lee - 9/7/2018 at 05:41 PM

Looking forward to seeing how the N.L. Wild Card race finishes. I've liked the Dodgers for a while now. We'll see how the N.L. West ends. Anything can happen with the three teams involved.

L.A., Ariz & Colo are all playing it out against each other.

Milwaukee and St. Louis trying to catch the Cubs is fun and the three teams play each other six times. Plus the Cards play L.A. three times.

I think the A.L. is pretty much set. Too bad for Seattle. They had a really good season.


Lee - 9/7/2018 at 09:13 PM

Kind of funny:

https://sports.yahoo.com/tigers-broadcasters-done-season-alleged-physical-a ltercation-201634369.html


Stephen - 9/8/2018 at 11:43 AM

Cool, ups to Tigers (feuding announcers & all )
"The Tigers are celebrating the 50th anniversary of their 1968 World Series win over the Cardinals during the weekend series. Five players from the 1968 team threw out first pitches on Friday, and a ceremony will be held before Saturday's game."

Jesus, it's a W5, they're back to .500 & the Pirates still have a pulse -- ya never know**

Tanaka is on a tear -- since All Star game he's fanned 61, walked just 10 -- ERA b4 break was over 4, he's over two runs less since at, I think radio announcers said, 2.23

Let's go Sox

**edit, that's as of 2nite -- thought it was that as of last nite:shaddap:

[Edited on 9/8/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/12/2018 at 02:35 PM

As good as we've gone this year, Oakland A's deserving of Best Team On The Planet recognition -- four of their pitchers have had Tommy John surgery this year, now their top dog, Manea (shoulder), might miss next season -- yet they're W5 & 4th-best in MLB -- on a shoestring budget (by comparison)

interesting article circulating on internet titled "Why Tommy John Is Against The Surgery That Bears His Name" -- yes it extended his career, John says -- it's now hurting others', especially youth players, he adds

w/no one in attendance, a doozie of a matchup 2nite w/combined 34-13 W-K -- Snell, the probable AL Cy, going for 19th win vs Carlos Carrasco (16-8) -- Severino goes for 18th

holy **** , Wash has a pulse & don't miss it tonite on TV -- Stepheno-no -- takes a no hitter into 7th inning, they get a hit & Stephen exits w/score 2-0 after another new-age doozie, w/Nola (16-4) & Nats lose 4-2

our season ender w/NY likely won't mean much & who woulda thought that -- you can't single any 1 guy out, Everyone doing good -- Xander 4-4 Mon nite, Brock pinch hit HR last nite -- yar

[Edited on 9/12/2018 by Stephen]


DanB - 9/13/2018 at 11:05 AM

quote:

interesting article circulating on internet titled "Why Tommy John Is Against The Surgery That Bears His Name" -- yes it extended his career, John says -- it's now hurting others', especially youth players, he adds

[Edited on 9/12/2018 by Stephen]
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Well coaches at youth levels,9-16 age, are pretty damn stupid. I've coached for the last 6 years or so and have pitch counts on my guys, 75-90. I've pulled starters out of championship games after reaching their limit. I have only had 3 kids reach 90 pitches. The wins don't matter that much.

heres some examples if idiocy: 1 kid threw 138 pitches in a 12u championship game and this doesn't include 8-10 warm ups between innings or his pregame throwing. All said he threw about 230 that day. We won the game.
Saw another coach use his in 3 or 4 games over a weekend.

Also had a coach/dad tell me his 9 year old son's "knuckle curve wasn't working today"

damn dumbasses


Stephen - 9/13/2018 at 04:54 PM

Its first team remains its winningest.....there should be an asterisk by the record when we rewrite it this year, a la Maris 61HR in 162 games, vs Ruth 60 in 154 etc --

105-47 -- .691 winning % -- 10 fewer games -- in 1912, Fenway's 1st year -- a year that started as the town reeled from the epic Titanic disaster & Boston's role in it in April 1912 -- as word leaked out from the docks & eventually to the newspapers that sailors on the Californian, which had docked in Boston & had been in contact w/the ill-fated ship that night, were saying they saw the distress rockets that were reported to have been fired from the sinking vessel --

the rockets that night were reported to the captain of the Californian & entered into the log, but he took no action & chose not to awaken his wireless operator, & himself went back to sleep after leaving instructions to use morse lamp -- this became a widely debated aspect of the story -- including who first reported it -- both the Clinton Daily Item, and 1 of the many city newspapers from that era, don't remember which, are mentioned

…..anyways the year ended ended w/the World Series & watta debut for Fenway Pahk


[Edited on 9/13/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 9/13/2018 at 05:09 PM

anyways the 1946 team is next (104-50), then 1915 (101-50)

1906 CUBS -- 116-36, best of all time & a Sox-Cubs WS would be A Doozie w/the huge fan followings
their older fans lament the woeful state of the Orioles, esp when they think of those mid 1960s-early 70s teams -- 109-53 in 1969, 108-54 in 1970 -- 8th & 9th all time

SEPT. 13, 1946
Ted Williams hits the only inside-the-park HR of his career as the Sox beat Cleveland 1-0 & clinch the AL pennant, their 1st since 1918


Stephen - 9/14/2018 at 03:53 PM

Whoa Noah -- we see both him & deGrom this wknd, should be Fun to watch -- Noah a 2 hitter for his 1st-ever CG last week -- as the traditional starter/reliever approach gives way to the by-committee approach, these performances are more & more to be appreciated --

Stephen has to be all-down w/the committee approach, no more than 2 IP per start -- that would definitely xtend his career -- they still might groom him as a reliever

very surprised to see Clay sidelined :yaright: -- Colo is in SF, yep picked Giants, but they flopped completely (L11) -- w/no Panda, Buster Posey, Cueto etc etc, no go -- StL-LAD is crucial this wknd, same Oakland-TB

he's had a great career & is the last of a dying breed -- Joe Mauer, all 16 years w/Twins -- it was fun being on their bandwagon when they had that great but unnoticed lineup (2005-11 or so) b4 all the NCIs came along, esp w/Justin Morneau




Stephen - 9/14/2018 at 04:02 PM

Yeah back in the day there was Beck, Bogert & Appice
Now we got Betts, Bogaerts & JBJ -- 1/3rd of an incredible squad -- hopefully Chris back to 100% soon, his starts too are by committee as he returns from shoulder inflammation -- would have to think that'd change for playoffs, but There Is No Telling -- but watta team, Let's Go Sox


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