Thread: NFL 2017

Sang - 8/5/2017 at 08:38 PM

Okay - let's get some new blood in the Pick 'em leagues this year......

Go to https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/pickem

Join a private league

Straight up picks:

ABBWP
group number: 7397
password: goats

lowest week dropped

With the Spread:

ABBSPREAD
group number: 7396
password: spread

lowest week dropped

Let's have some fun.....


nebish - 8/7/2017 at 10:07 PM

I'll play again.

Yeah, everyone likes football right? Would be cool to see more members participate!


Sang - 8/17/2017 at 04:18 AM

Just a reminder for people to join in............are you ready for some football?

This is just for fun, no money involved ..... just the satisfaction of beating your friends.....


Brendan - 8/17/2017 at 01:28 PM

I'm in! Looks like just you and me Mike...


Sang - 8/17/2017 at 06:49 PM

Don't worry Brendan - if you build it they will come........ or something like that.....

[Edited on 8/17/2017 by Sang]


Sang - 8/31/2017 at 03:59 AM

One week left to sign up - looks like we only have 4 signed up so far...... we need more or it won't be worth it..... so sign up, slackers........ tell your friends.............



porkchopbob - 8/31/2017 at 02:16 PM

Packers just signed LB Ahmad Brooks, great pickup who will hopefully help the pass rush.

Starting to get excited for September 10! Go Pack Go!


nebish - 8/31/2017 at 04:13 PM

Patriots first loss of the season will be and related odds of that selection:

9-07-17 vs Chiefs ...18-5
10-05-17 @ Buccaneers ...9-2
9-17-17 @ Saints ...6-1
Undefeated Regular Season ...10-1
10-01-17 vs Panthers ...10-1
9-24-17 vs Texans ...12-1
10-22-17 vs Falcons ...15-1
11-19-17 @ Raiders... 15-1
12-17-17 @ Steelers ...15-1
11-12-17 @ Broncos ...18-1
10-29-17 vs Chargers ...18-1
10-15-17 @ Jets ...40-1
12-11-17 @ Dolphins ...45-1
12-03-17 @ Bills ...50-1
11-26-17 vs Dolphins ...75-1
12-24-17 vs Bills ...150-1
12-31-17 vs Jets ...250-1


Sang - 8/31/2017 at 08:23 PM

The worst thing about football starting is having to listen about the Packers and the Patriots.....


porkchopbob - 8/31/2017 at 08:33 PM

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The worst thing about football starting is having to listen about the Packers and the Patriots.....


I'm a little bummed the Packers won't be catching any passes from Jay Cutler this season (unless they meet in the Super Bowl)


Sang - 9/5/2017 at 05:50 PM

All right gang, time to get some friends and family involved here - we only have 4 people in the spread league and 5 in the straight up - we need more to make it more competitive and fun. Sign up instructions in the first post - sign up before the games start this weekend............... tell any friends or family you want to compete against.... no money involved here, but of course you can make side bets.....

It's really easy - just pick the winners each week ..... your lowest week gets dropped......

Sign up so you can remind everyone else how much better you are at picking........


nebish - 9/6/2017 at 04:11 AM

Regular Season Wins

New England 12.5
Green Bay 10.5
Pittsburgh 10.5
Seattle 10.5
Atlanta 9.5
Dallas 9.5
Oakland 9.5
Carolina 9
Kansas City 9
Arizona 8.5
Baltimore 8.5
Cincinnati 8.5
Denver 8.5
Houston 8.5
Minnesota 8.5
NY Giants 8.5
New Orleans 8.5
Philadelphia 8.5
Tampa Bay 8.5
Tennessee 8.5
Detroit 6.5
Indianapolis 7.5
LA Chargers 7.5
Miami 7.5
Washington 7.5
Buffalo 6.5
Jacksonville 6.5
Chicago 5.5
LA Rams 5.5
Cleveland 4.5
NY Jets 3.5
San Francisco 4.5


nebish - 9/6/2017 at 04:11 AM

Where is everyone who played in the pick'em league last year?


jszfunk - 9/6/2017 at 11:40 AM

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The worst thing about football starting is having to listen about the Packers and the Patriots.....


I'm a little bummed the Packers won't be catching any passes from Jay Cutler this season (unless they meet in the Super Bowl)


HA! Good one!!!


Sang - 9/7/2017 at 05:03 AM

First game is tomorrow night - so sign up and get your picks in...........................


Lee - 9/7/2017 at 06:41 PM

I am mulling over the pool but I am already in three. So I kind of doubt it. Guess I am running out of time.


oldcoot - 9/7/2017 at 11:17 PM

Never have had much success wagering the pros, but, what the heck, joined the spread league.

Snagger, same $15 beer money wager on this like the college picks? Best seasonal record between us.


nebish - 9/7/2017 at 11:49 PM

Let's go Chiefs!

I just like to go against the grain.


jszfunk - 9/8/2017 at 01:53 AM

quote:
Let's go Chiefs!

.

x2


Sang - 9/8/2017 at 04:31 AM

Best start of the season yet.....................


pops42 - 9/8/2017 at 05:44 AM

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Best start of the season yet.....................
No magic comeback!, NO perfect season!!!


jszfunk - 9/8/2017 at 10:29 AM

KC's rookie running back Kareem Hunt had 148yrs on the ground, and 98yrds receiving and 3 TD's.
Job well done.


Lee - 9/8/2017 at 12:31 PM

Never fumbled once in college and his first NFL carry was a fumble.


nebish - 9/8/2017 at 01:17 PM

Lots of Patriot hating going on...so where are the Pats fans? Crickets. Seeing all those sad faces in the crowd last night, that is always funny to me no matter who it is.


Lee - 9/8/2017 at 01:19 PM

LOL! Good one!


kevdab - 9/8/2017 at 02:19 PM

Patriots fan here. They got their a$$'$ kicked. I think the offense will be ok. The defense looked horrible. The front seven was worse than horrible. People around here thought they were going 19-0. That was never going to happen.
On the other hand, it's only one game. It's on to New Orleans.


Sang - 9/8/2017 at 05:10 PM

It was fun seeing the empty stadium with 3 minutes to go in the game - I guess they don't believe in comebacks anymore.....


pops42 - 9/8/2017 at 05:16 PM

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It was fun seeing the empty stadium with 3 minutes to go in the game - I guess they don't believe in comebacks anymore.....
Quitters!


Lee - 9/8/2017 at 07:33 PM

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Patriots fan here. They got their a$$'$ kicked. I think the offense will be ok. The defense looked horrible. The front seven was worse than horrible. People around here thought they were going 19-0. That was never going to happen.
On the other hand, it's only one game. It's on to New Orleans.


WELL... If you are concerned about their front seven, you can't be too excited about going on the road against Drew Brees.


Wis608 - 9/8/2017 at 10:48 PM

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Lots of Patriot hating going on...so where are the Pats fans? Crickets. Seeing all those sad faces in the crowd last night, that is always funny to me no matter who it is.



Don't worry, once they get a win it will be obnoxious chest thumping about how great they are......sore winners and losers both.


jkeller - 9/8/2017 at 10:57 PM

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Lots of Patriot hating going on...so where are the Pats fans? Crickets. Seeing all those sad faces in the crowd last night, that is always funny to me no matter who it is.



Don't worry, once they get a win it will be obnoxious chest thumping about how great they are......sore winners and losers both.


Agreed. They are all over this forum when things go welll and absent when they don't go very well. The biggest front runners in sports are Patriot and Yankee fans.


kevdab - 9/9/2017 at 10:52 AM

Don't worry guys, the Pat's will be in the hunt at the end. One bad game doesn't make a season. They've had bad games before and have rebounded well.
On the other hand, they looked terrible. They will have their hands full with Drew Brees.
I'll come out here next week , win or lose. But don't count on them losing two in a row.


Lee - 9/10/2017 at 03:26 PM

You are in last place, right where you belong.

Winner of the Jets/Bills game will be in first. That's not gonna last.


jszfunk - 9/11/2017 at 11:56 AM

Ram fans don't get your hopes up to much. The Colts stink!


IPowrie - 9/11/2017 at 09:46 PM

The Lions looked good in the second half. Will find out in the next couple weeks if this will be a good season or not.


leafsfan - 9/12/2017 at 05:39 PM

So many dud games this past weekend. Oakland Titans was entertaining for the first half and Patsies losing is always a good thing. Other than that I think players after 4 or whatever it is pre-season games are already bored with the process.

I think its Cincy Houston is on Thursday - Who thought that was a good idea???


jszfunk - 9/12/2017 at 06:12 PM

Did not know Teddy Bridgewater is still out. Bradford had a real good game last night.


Lee - 9/12/2017 at 07:32 PM

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I think its Cincy Houston is on Thursday - Who thought that was a good idea???


I don't think it should be that bad of a game actually. I bet a better question is why my Lions are at the Giants on Monday night. They aren't even giving a touchdown. I would bet the house on New York.


Brendan - 9/12/2017 at 07:50 PM

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I think its Cincy Houston is on Thursday - Who thought that was a good idea???


I don't think it should be that bad of a game actually. I bet a better question is why my Lions are at the Giants on Monday night. They aren't even giving a touchdown. I would bet the house on New York.
How big is your house?


Lee - 9/12/2017 at 09:42 PM

Big enough. Chicago isn't New York or Jersey or wherever you live. We have room for your ass. But I would give the points.




[Edited on 9/13/2017 by Lee]


leafsfan - 9/15/2017 at 04:21 PM

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I don't think it should be that bad of a game actually.


Yeah about that.


kevdab - 9/18/2017 at 02:49 PM

Patriots beat a weak Saints team yesterday. A win is a win though. Brady and the offense looked pretty good, not great. Defense is a long ways away from being a championship defense. They were really good stopping the run. Brees threw for a lot of yards, but that's what he does. He's still pretty good.


jszfunk - 9/18/2017 at 04:18 PM

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Patriots beat a weak Saints team yesterday. A win is a win though. Brady and the offense looked pretty good, not great. Defense is a long ways away from being a championship defense. They were really good stopping the run. Brees threw for a lot of yards, but that's what he does. He's still pretty good.


Yeah ,Saints D is pretty bad. If NE would have had Edelman they probably would have dropped even more yards then what they did.

Dallas got it handed to them by the Broncos!

[Edited on 9/18/2017 by jszfunk]


kevdab - 9/18/2017 at 05:41 PM

Tony Romo is very good as an analyst. He happens to be younger to both Brady and Brees . It looks like he made the right move.


pops42 - 9/19/2017 at 02:40 PM

The giants need a QB who can scramble and evade the sack. their OL is rally bad, and Manning is like a statue back there. Kaepernick could be had at a bargain price, and could win games for them.


Lee - 9/19/2017 at 08:29 PM

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The giants need a QB who can scramble and evade the sack. their OL is rally bad, and Manning is like a statue back there. Kaepernick could be had at a bargain price, and could win games for them.


Interesting thought. But I don't see them benching Manning. Ever. The offensive coordinator is already in hot water. They would run him out of town if Manning doesn't play, but I do think the thought of it is interesting. And heck, Manning is almost 10 years older than Kaepernick so who knows? Maybe look to the future.

Anyone that can make the Lions look good when their QB only throws for 122 yards can't be that great.


leafsfan - 9/19/2017 at 10:40 PM

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The giants need a QB who can scramble and evade the sack.


I was wondering the same thing last night. Why isn't he running when he has an opening??? I saw about 5 occasions when he could have dashed through a gap but stood there and got slammed to the ground. He looked scared and his receivers we're no help either.

Brutal display for sure.


pops42 - 9/19/2017 at 11:30 PM

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The giants need a QB who can scramble and evade the sack.


I was wondering the same thing last night. Why isn't he running when he has an opening??? I saw about 5 occasions when he could have dashed through a gap but stood there and got slammed to the ground. He looked scared and his receivers we're no help either.

Brutal display for sure.
He needs to retire.


nebish - 9/20/2017 at 03:03 AM

Manning can't run. The one sack I think a Lion's defender just waved his arm Eli's way and Manning fell down. If the Giant's can't pass protect properly to run the plays they want to run then the coaches need to realize what is and isn't possible and they either need to have players stay in to help block or they need to call different plays. Really bad game for Giant's organization on national TV.

Regarding Tony Romo, yes I like him alot in the booth as well. First game I heard him, I missed week 1 TV games. He seemed really genuine, alot like a fan in some of his reactions but gave some interesting tidbits throughout. I see they stuck Simms in the studio. Wasn't so much of a Simms fan, I read many people weren't either.


IPowrie - 9/20/2017 at 08:18 PM

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The giants need a QB who can scramble and evade the sack.


I was wondering the same thing last night. Why isn't he running when he has an opening??? I saw about 5 occasions when he could have dashed through a gap but stood there and got slammed to the ground. He looked scared and his receivers we're no help either.

Brutal display for sure.


I didn't mind. It means the Lions are in frist place


pops42 - 9/20/2017 at 09:49 PM

WTF?............ http://fanbuzz.com/nfl/eli-manning-embarrassing-sack-not-touched/


nebish - 9/21/2017 at 09:02 PM

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WTF?............ http://fanbuzz.com/nfl/eli-manning-embarrassing-sack-not-touched/


That's the one I was thinking of! Eli...


kevdab - 9/22/2017 at 11:02 AM

I think Eli needs to start eating avacado icecream.


Wis608 - 9/22/2017 at 01:11 PM

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I think Eli needs to start eating avacado icecream.


Yeah like your boy TB12? Supposedly he said he drinks 2.5 gallons of water a day
and also it helps him precent sun burns. So if he sleeps 8hrs a day, that leaves
him 16 hrs to drink 2.5 gallons which is 40 8oz cups, which is 2.5 cups an hour.
Not buying. He would need a catheter anchored in his bladder.

This guy sounds like a snake oil salesman and he also has something to hock.

[Edited on 9/22/2017 by Wis608]


kevdab - 9/22/2017 at 01:47 PM

TB12 is certainly trying to sell his brand. I hope he doesn't turn into a snake oil salesman. I wish he would tone down his selling at least until he's out of football. After that, it won't bother me as much.
Whatever methods he uses to keep up his high level of playing on the field, is working. Older athletes like Eli, might want to take a look into what Tom is doing.
Go Pat's.


Stephen - 9/22/2017 at 03:49 PM

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TB12 is certainly trying to sell his brand. I hope he doesn't turn into a snake oil salesman. I wish he would tone down his selling at least until he's out of football. After that, it won't bother me as much.
Whatever methods he uses to keep up his high level of playing on the field, is working. Older athletes like Eli, might want to take a look into what Tom is doing.
Go Pat's.


x2 -- like David Ortiz before him, few athletes at 40 in any sport play at Brady's level


jszfunk - 9/25/2017 at 10:38 AM

Cant believe I am saying this, probably the only time I ever will , but I like l to thank the New England Patriots for the Jacoby Brissett trade.

Big loss for the Steelers against the Bears.

Some pretty exciting games yesterday.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20810701/pittsburgh-steelers-surprised-a lejandro-villanueva-move





[Edited on 9/25/2017 by jszfunk]

[Edited on 9/25/2017 by jszfunk]

[Edited on 9/25/2017 by jszfunk]


kevdab - 9/25/2017 at 03:05 PM

Brady pulled out another late win against a good defensive Houston team. Patriot defense is not good, although they made a huge stop and forced Houston to kick a field goal. I would have went for it on fourth down if I was Houston.
Lot's of good football yesterday. It's too bad that politics has entered sports the way it did.I think the league and the players handled it right.
jszfunk, your welcome for Jacoby. When Luck is healthy, and you get a real head coach, Pat's, Colts rivalry will continue.


jszfunk - 9/25/2017 at 06:18 PM

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Brady pulled out another late win against a good defensive Houston team. Patriot defense is not good, although they made a huge stop and forced Houston to kick a field goal. I would have went for it on fourth down if I was Houston.
Lot's of good football yesterday. It's too bad that politics has entered sports the way it did.I think the league and the players handled it right.
jszfunk, your welcome for Jacoby. When Luck is healthy, and you get a real head coach, Pat's, Colts rivalry will continue.



If Jaocby keeps this type of play up he will be snagged by another team next year
and definetly will be a starter. Heck, he could probably start for a few teams now!

Yeah,we need a new coach. I like Chuck and always have been a
supporter of him, but I just think its time.


nebish - 9/26/2017 at 03:30 AM

Awful way for the Lions to lose Sunday


porkchopbob - 9/28/2017 at 04:40 PM

Tonight the Green Bay Packers could take the lead in the GB-Chicago all-time series for the first time since 1933. Pretty amazing since the Bears were ahead by 24 games twice: in 1960, but Lombardi's squads bridged the gap over the next decade only for the Packers to fall behind in the 1970s and 80s. In 1992 the series was 81-57-6, but Favre and Rodgers have managed to bridge the gap with a 37-14 combined record since (Chicago has started 18 different QBs during the same period), tying the series last season. Pretty nuts considering they only play twice a year.


IPowrie - 9/29/2017 at 09:17 PM

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Awful way for the Lions to lose Sunday


It was very Lionesque. They should review the run off rule.


jszfunk - 9/30/2017 at 01:41 PM

This was an absolute freight train of a hit.
The last replay from the end zone really showed how lethal that was. Not good.
https://streamable.com/zer9i


porkchopbob - 9/30/2017 at 06:14 PM

It was an ugly hit, glad to hear Adams was out of the hospital quickly. If Trump wants those kinds of hits back in the game, he can have the whole league all to himself.

Anyways, Mike Glennon looked like a great successor to Jay Cutler - really hope he sticks around!


Lee - 10/1/2017 at 03:18 PM

Gotta love Sunday morning football.


nebish - 10/1/2017 at 06:17 PM

Sunday is nice.

I love college football best, but do enjoy the execution at the NFL level. The likes of Brady, or a well schemed defense. And the tackling. That is probably what I love best about the NFL the tackling is much better than college.

NFL is a nice laid back day for me. Saturday is a blood pumping, hoot and hollering, passion filled 15 hours worth.


Lee - 10/1/2017 at 10:20 PM

How does an NFL team score 57 points?


nebish - 10/1/2017 at 11:25 PM

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How does an NFL team score 57 points?


In a word...Deshaun

Having a capable QB has breathed life into that team.


kevdab - 10/2/2017 at 09:26 AM

Patriots fall to 2-2. Offense again looked pretty good. Defense on the other hand continues to give up big plays. Too many. They actually made some big stops on third down, but got penalties to keep the defense on the field. Lot's to improve on. Short week. Tampa on Thursday.


jszfunk - 10/2/2017 at 10:53 AM

A quarter of the way into the season and Bills and Rams are in first place in they're respective divisions.

That Denver defense is shutting down the run so far.


Lee - 10/2/2017 at 08:11 PM

Pats' defense is horrible. I'm sure Belicheck will make the necessary adjustments. Always does.


oldcoot - 10/3/2017 at 03:09 PM

How about that lateral play as time ran out?

Entirely changed the cover on the team and the over/under.

Worked for me!


Rydethwind - 10/3/2017 at 06:32 PM

Eff the NFL till those children grow the hell up!


BoytonBrother - 10/3/2017 at 07:25 PM

Says the guy who never suited up, lol.


kevdab - 10/6/2017 at 11:35 AM

Patriots were lucky to get a win last night. They almost gave the game away to Tampa with all the penalties, and the two turnovers by Brady. We'll take the win though.
Defense showed a little improvement, especially the secondary, which I thought would be a stregnth to begin with.

On another note, the NFL should get rid of Thursday night Football. They don't need it. Already enough pro football in prime time.


Lee - 10/6/2017 at 12:06 PM

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On another note, the NFL should get rid of Thursday night Football. They don't need it. Already enough pro football in prime time.


I think that horse has left the barn. The same thing was kind of said about Monday Night Football decades ago.


Lee - 10/6/2017 at 12:12 PM

Who wants to audition to be a Bucs kicker today? Shessh.................


nebish - 10/6/2017 at 04:57 PM

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How about that lateral play as time ran out?

Entirely changed the cover on the team and the over/under.

Worked for me!


You talking Monday night? Brutal, I had the Skins.

I watch games with people and they are always like, "what are you worried about, you're +x and they are only up by y and there is only z time left? The life of a sports bettor, you've seen it all the good and the bad and you've likely seen it more than once. I was already worried when KC stopped the clock and kicked with :08 left. Because I've won and lost on stupid time expiring KO plays like that before and knew what can happen. I actually just sat motionless and quiet in my chair with a smirk on my face knowing there were thousands of people out there that were either euphoric or inconsolable on that play. Would've been a good one to be at a Vegas sportsbook for.

Coot you may or may not appreciate this, but you'll know. Two years ago I was in a Vegas sportsbook with a BYU ML when they opened at Lincoln. Yeah, it was nuts and so was I. The highs on plays like that are really high and make up for those bad beats.


nebish - 10/6/2017 at 05:00 PM

I did play the under last night. All year and all week everyone saying how bad the Pats D was...Tampa isn't good enough nor consistent enough to score a bunch on them. And without Gronk had to figure NE's O wouldn't be that great either, you know how much Brady relies on him. Tampa really disappointed though. Tough loss for them.


oldcoot - 10/6/2017 at 06:04 PM

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quote:
How about that lateral play as time ran out?

Entirely changed the cover on the team and the over/under.

Worked for me!


You talking Monday night? Brutal, I had the Skins.

I watch games with people and they are always like, "what are you worried about, you're +x and they are only up by y and there is only z time left? The life of a sports bettor, you've seen it all the good and the bad and you've likely seen it more than once. I was already worried when KC stopped the clock and kicked with :08 left. Because I've won and lost on stupid time expiring KO plays like that before and knew what can happen. I actually just sat motionless and quiet in my chair with a smirk on my face knowing there were thousands of people out there that were either euphoric or inconsolable on that play. Would've been a good one to be at a Vegas sportsbook for.

Coot you may or may not appreciate this, but you'll know. Two years ago I was in a Vegas sportsbook with a BYU ML when they opened at Lincoln. Yeah, it was nuts and so was I. The highs on plays like that are really high and make up for those bad beats.



You could see that one coming too. Armstrong's poor clock management (twice) on the Huskers last drive. Leaving one second on the clock for a Hail Mary.

I didn't have the money line on it, but I did have BYU.


oldcoot - 10/6/2017 at 06:06 PM

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I did play the under last night. All year and all week everyone saying how bad the Pats D was...Tampa isn't good enough nor consistent enough to score a bunch on them. And without Gronk had to figure NE's O wouldn't be that great either, you know how much Brady relies on him. Tampa really disappointed though. Tough loss for them.



A bunch of us got it "right" in the Pick 'Em league, however, the local line was at +3 1/2 at game time. That didn't work out quite as well.


jszfunk - 10/9/2017 at 11:54 AM

The Green Bay Dallas game was very enjoyable. Glad to see the Pack going into Dallas and getting a win.

Aaron Rodgers is just an outstanding quarterback.

If I had to build a team from all of the quarterbacks I have witnessed playing over the last 40 yrs
it would be hard not to pick him as my starter. He is one of the best all around qb's I have ever seen.


Lee - 10/9/2017 at 12:53 PM

In my pick 'em league I got the first nine games wrong. NINE! I couldn't have done that if I tried!


Stephen - 10/9/2017 at 02:42 PM

In the rush to be politically correct, where athletes lose their jobs merely due to Allegations of domestic abuse or whatever else, before ever being charged or tried...

...will be interesting to see what happens w/that Dolphins assistant -- it's as common in pro sports (maybe more so) as anywhere -- will he be stood up as an example, thus making coaches, trainers, other employees also subject to random testing

it's not sports, just it's own **** ed-up self-contained fantasy world/bottomless well of $$$$ and more $$$$$$$$$$

**I guess he resigned

[Edited on 10/9/2017 by Stephen]


Lee - 10/9/2017 at 07:34 PM

How stupid do you have to be to do something like that? That's like something a 20-year old college kid would do, not an NFL coach.

Just speculating but I would bet some pressure was put on him to step down.

What the hell was he thinking?!?!

[Edited on 10/10/2017 by Lee]


jszfunk - 10/10/2017 at 11:50 AM

Sounds like JJ Watt is out again.

Is Teddy Brdigewater coming back?


Lee - 10/10/2017 at 11:56 AM

Ywah whatever happened to Bridgewater?


nebish - 10/12/2017 at 02:38 PM

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In my pick 'em league I got the first nine games wrong. NINE! I couldn't have done that if I tried!


Last week was my roughest week yet as well.

Philly at Carolina is pretty interesting tonight. Only a Sun Belt college game so NFL will get my primary Thursday attention for a change and it is a pretty good one!


porkchopbob - 10/12/2017 at 02:47 PM

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Ywah whatever happened to Bridgewater?


I think he's out until Week 6 at least from last season's injury.


nebish - 10/13/2017 at 05:46 AM

Enjoyed that game tonight. Eagle D was great. Gotta like the toughness Wentz plays with. Carolina hurt themselves multiple times, but Eagles earned it.

So the yahoo straight up pick'em league...are we down to just 3 of us playing out of the 6 that joined? Weak. You guys are better than that!


Lee - 10/13/2017 at 10:36 AM

When you forget to put your picks in one week (me) you are pretty much screwed for the season.

If we put some $ on it I would probably be more attentive. Just a thought.

Sorry.


Sang - 10/13/2017 at 01:44 PM

Lowest week gets dropped, just for that reason..............


Brendan - 10/13/2017 at 03:15 PM

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Enjoyed that game tonight. Eagle D was great. Gotta like the toughness Wentz plays with. Carolina hurt themselves multiple times, but Eagles earned it.

So the yahoo straight up pick'em league...are we down to just 3 of us playing out of the 6 that joined? Weak. You guys are better than that!
I keep forgetting...


nebish - 10/15/2017 at 04:30 PM

Hemp! How are you 0-5 in the fantasy league? I didn't even want to play and I'm 3-2. You gonna get your first win vs me today?


porkchopbob - 10/15/2017 at 04:50 PM

Not too many interesting match ups today. A few surprises though:

Jets and Pats battle to break the 3-way tie - who knew?

Also, in the "who knew?" column, Jags-Rams might be an interesting game. Rams seem to be doing well in LA, much better than The Chargers. Still not sure they totally thought that move through. Now you have 2 teams that also have similar color sets in the same city: White, Yellow, and Blue. Why would anyone in LA care about the Chargers and their tiny high school stadium?

Steelers have to rebound against the only unbeaten team in the league. The Chiefs are looking good early, but unless the AFC is still weak by the end of the season, I don't see an Andy Reid/Alex Smith team being much of a threat down the stretch.

Packers are up against Minnesota's backup QB, hopefully the defense will be able to have an easier day than last week's grind.


porkchopbob - 10/15/2017 at 06:17 PM

Rodgers is down. Return questionable. Thatís not good.


pops42 - 10/15/2017 at 08:58 PM

The jets got screwed.


Lee - 10/15/2017 at 09:13 PM

My Lions score 38 and lose by two touchdowns. They've been finding new ways to lose my entire life.

They, the Bears (good win for them today actually) and the Browns have to be the worst run teams in sports.

The Lions have won exactly ONE playoff game since I think 1957 or something. My entire life they've won only once. And I didn't even get to watch their win. I was at work on a Sunday evening.


nebish - 10/15/2017 at 09:46 PM

That Detroit - New Orleans game was certainly bizzare. Lots of strange stuff.

Trying to remember the Lions playoff games. I remember they lost at RFK in a game and everyone was throwing their seat cushions. The playoff game they won must've been at home. Was it Wayne Foutes or Bobby Ross the coach. Scott Mitchell must've been the QB?

I really enjoyed the old days of NFL. There is just something romantic about it. Even just 20 years ago, I feel the nostalgia.

How about YA Title just dying. Man, I used to love watching NFL films of him. He looked so old when he was playing. Just a different era.


Sang - 10/15/2017 at 10:12 PM

I have managed to pick every game in the spread pool wrong so far............


nebish - 10/15/2017 at 11:25 PM

quote:
I have managed to pick every game in the spread pool wrong so far............


That is always crazy. Like if you tried to pick all losers, you couldn't. Maybe you did better in nascar...or not!


Lee - 10/15/2017 at 11:35 PM

quote:
That Detroit - New Orleans game was certainly bizzare. Lots of strange stuff.

Trying to remember the Lions playoff games. I remember they lost at RFK in a game and everyone was throwing their seat cushions. The playoff game they won must've been at home. Was it Wayne Foutes or Bobby Ross the coach. Scott Mitchell must've been the QB?

I really enjoyed the old days of NFL. There is just something romantic about it. Even just 20 years ago, I feel the nostalgia.

How about YA Title just dying. Man, I used to love watching NFL films of him. He looked so old when he was playing. Just a different era.



I was wrong. Detroit destroyed the Cowboys at home at the Silverdome in 1991 I think. Then I think they went to Washington and got killed by the Redskins in the NFC Championship game. Didn't look it up but I think that was it.


nebish - 10/15/2017 at 11:39 PM

Could be. I distinctly remember the Lions game at RFK. Lions beating Cowboys one year before their SB sounds right.

Teams come up. You see it coming sometimes. You could see that Dallas team building and coming. Good era of football.


porkchopbob - 10/16/2017 at 12:09 AM

quote:
Could be. I distinctly remember the Lions game at RFK. Lions beating Cowboys one year before their SB sounds right.

Teams come up. You see it coming sometimes. You could see that Dallas team building and coming. Good era of football.


They definitely beat the Cowboys (I remember the silver-blue battle) before losing to the Redskins in 1991. I think it was Rodney Peete at QB. I also remember Favre's last second heave to Sterling Sharpe in 1993, and holding Sanders to -1 yards rushing in 1994.

Looks like Rodgers is done for the year, since it's his throwing arm. He came back to take the division (thanks to a very weak division) in 2013 on the final game of the season, but that will be really tough this year. Hundley might get more comfortable and surprise people, there's got to be a reason McCarthy has kept him around for 3 seasons after having no solid backup in 2013. This season just got more interesting...


[Edited on 10/16/2017 by porkchopbob]


nebish - 10/16/2017 at 12:30 AM

I feel bad about Rogers. I feel bad because of how much time and work that we;ll never know about that goes into a team and the Packers are toast now. That sucks. I feel bad because Rogers is such a terrific player and I feel bad selfishly that I won;t get to see him perform and also feel bad that Packer fans will not be able to enjoy him leading their team.

With that said, there was nothing wrong with the hit. I feel 100% fine with the hit. Could the D player have laid off? Yes. Is it his job to lay off or knock the QB down legally? Knock the QB down. It is a rough game. **** happens. Clean play.


porkchopbob - 10/16/2017 at 01:22 AM

quote:
I feel bad about Rogers. I feel bad because of how much time and work that we;ll never know about that goes into a team and the Packers are toast now. That sucks. I feel bad because Rogers is such a terrific player and I feel bad selfishly that I won;t get to see him perform and also feel bad that Packer fans will not be able to enjoy him leading their team.

With that said, there was nothing wrong with the hit. I feel 100% fine with the hit. Could the D player have laid off? Yes. Is it his job to lay off or knock the QB down legally? Knock the QB down. It is a rough game. **** happens. Clean play.


Yeah, hit was totally legal. Rodgers just came down all wrong. As soon as he came down palm-to-shoulder into the dirt, I thought it was his collar bone. Looked just like 2013 all over, and I've broken my collar bone before. All looked too familiar.


nebish - 10/16/2017 at 02:04 AM

Felt like the Fox crew was over analyzing the hit way too much. I get who Rodgers is and what it means. They were playing up the Rodgers wasn't happy with the hit angle. Didn't like that. Rodgers can not like it, doesn't mean they have to keep discussing the legality of it.

Funny thing is how poor back up QBs are in the NFL. NE has a good one. Not sure how good Fitzpatrick is still and I forget where he is, Tampa? Denver, they have their old guy back and are probably pretty happy to have him right now. For a while, few years ago, Shawn Hill was pretty good. But it just amazes me how all these teams have these 2nd string QBs then the starter gets hurt and they scramble..we need to sign somebody. Steelers come to mind. They've never trusted Landry Jones. If you can't trust your backup QB being one snap away from leading your team get a and develop a new back up. Think KC is on the right track there.


nebish - 10/16/2017 at 02:05 AM

I separated my collar bone twice. Once was jumping over a camp fire. Once was running from security at a Carlos Santana concert after trying to maintain a nice little warming fire. But it was my nonthrowing shoulder.


kevdab - 10/16/2017 at 09:55 AM

Patriots were lucky to beat the Jets yesterday. It was a bad call on the called back TD. I don't know how they could have overturned that.
The defense still has a lot of improving to do. They made some big plays, but they're not close to being a championship defense.
The offense was not sharp yesterday. Did enough to win.
The Rogers hit was clean. It's too bad for him, his team, and the NFL. He's a great player and competitor. A loss for the NFL.


Lee - 10/16/2017 at 10:45 AM

As soon as I saw the play I thought he broke his shoulder. I have done that. Still can't raise one of my arms. I would have preferred to have broken my collarbone. Heals better.

But the play itself wasn't dirty. When you have a 250-300 pound guy land on you, well that can happen.

Unfortunately that is football.

[Edited on 10/16/2017 by Lee]


Lee - 10/16/2017 at 10:49 AM

quote:
The jets got screwed.


pops, by the letter of the law they didn't. It seems like they did but the rule is the rule. I think the sticky point was whether or not he had the ball when he went out of bounds.

Odd rule. Sucks for a Jets fan.


jszfunk - 10/16/2017 at 11:31 AM

Yeah that stinks for the Packers, but this is football. Injuries happen to the best of them.

The Pitt KC game was good. Steelers made the plays when needed.


I thought Austin Seferian-Jenkins regained control of the ball from what I saw on one of the angles.


porkchopbob - 10/16/2017 at 12:46 PM

quote:
Felt like the Fox crew was over analyzing the hit way too much. I get who Rodgers is and what it means. They were playing up the Rodgers wasn't happy with the hit angle. Didn't like that. Rodgers can not like it, doesn't mean they have to keep discussing the legality of it.



I didn't really notice that, but Troy and Joe Buck are pretty terrible announcers, and FOX had their backup Joe Buck starting yesterday. Local announcers typically know the teams better so they have more topics to talk about in greater detail. So when the biggest player in the game goes down, it's not surprising that they will focus on that. It's even worse in baseball, you get the local announcers throughout the season, and then you get a jobber like Matt Vasgersian in the playoffs fixating on one topic or regurgitating stats that are fed into his headset.


pops42 - 10/16/2017 at 03:12 PM

quote:
quote:
The jets got screwed.


pops, by the letter of the law they didn't. It seems like they did but the rule is the rule. I think the sticky point was whether or not he had the ball when he went out of bounds.

Odd rule. Sucks for a Jets fan.
The replay clearly showed he had the ball when he went out of bounds. bad call.


kevdab - 10/16/2017 at 04:32 PM

I'm a Patriots fan, and that was a bad call.


kevdab - 10/20/2017 at 04:10 PM

Patriots got the Falcons Sunday night. Big test for both teams. I wish the Falcons won last week, but they let Miami come back and beat them. Must have brought back Super Bowl memories.

Anybody have any thoughts on who i are the best teams in each conference. Before Rogers got injured, I thought the Packers were going to be there. Not now. The Chiefs have come down to earth. Patriots,, Don't look like a championship team as of now. Doesn't seem to be any great teams this year.


nebish - 10/20/2017 at 11:03 PM

quote:
Patriots got the Falcons Sunday night. Big test for both teams. I wish the Falcons won last week, but they let Miami come back and beat them. Must have brought back Super Bowl memories.

Anybody have any thoughts on who i are the best teams in each conference. Before Rogers got injured, I thought the Packers were going to be there. Not now. The Chiefs have come down to earth. Patriots,, Don't look like a championship team as of now. Doesn't seem to be any great teams this year.


It's a good question. Some may not like the lack of clear-cut front runners, but I like it. Think it makes for some really interesting games. Hard to put your finger on who is going to emerge atop each division, which is fine with me - although different from how we normally look at the league after 6 games.

I do think Kansas City is still very strong. And Philly.


pops42 - 10/20/2017 at 11:38 PM

KC @ Oakland was just incredible!.


Sang - 10/21/2017 at 01:53 AM

Since I picked KC I knew what the outcome would be......


pops42 - 10/21/2017 at 02:43 AM

quote:
Since I picked KC I knew what the outcome would be......


Stephen - 10/24/2017 at 12:09 AM

No one from Vince Lombardi and George Halas to Don Shula or Bill Belichick could coach the Browns to a win -- now there's no Joe Thomas
....still, if they go into their bye week winless, gotta feeling Hue Jackson will be let go -- it'd be blatantly unfair, but...


porkchopbob - 10/24/2017 at 12:23 AM

quote:
Some may not like the lack of clear-cut front runners, but I like it. Think it makes for some really interesting games. Hard to put your finger on who is going to emerge atop each division, which is fine with me - although different from how we normally look at the league after 6 games.

I do think Kansas City is still very strong. And Philly.


Same here. It makes the whole season a little more interesting. Typically the teams that jump out to 5-0 starts burn out by week 10 (see every other Vikings season). Teams that go down 0-2 and stay calm can easily get back in it.

I still won't trust KC to go far, it's still Andy Reid.

And I may be an optimist, but I still think Green Bay has a chance to at least makes the playoffs. They were ahead most of the game on Sunday with a QB that threw well under 100 yards. That's promising, especially if Hundley gets in rhythm with Nelson and Cobb down field. Aaron Rodgers didn't light the world on fire his first few snaps either.


jszfunk - 10/24/2017 at 11:18 AM

Eagles 6-1, 1st place in the NFC East. Wentz had a pretty good game.


nebish - 10/31/2017 at 02:34 AM

Lions, they always disappoint


jszfunk - 10/31/2017 at 11:07 AM

Jimmy Garoppolo trade

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21231197/all-jimmy-garoppolo-trade-domin oes-new-england-patriots-san-francisco-49ers-affected-2017-deadline


jszfunk - 11/3/2017 at 11:01 AM

Texans QB Deshaun Watson tears ACL in practice

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000871174/article/texans-fear-deshaun- watson-tore-acl-during-practice

Colts put Andrew Luck on IR

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21264487/andrew-luck-season-officially-i ndianapolis-colts-qb-set-ir


Stephen - 11/9/2017 at 03:27 PM

It's on both the Celtics & Patriots ESPN pages
"Newest Pats' Field Goal Blocker -- DINO RAJDA!!"

haha -- it doesn't really say that but wouldn't That be something --
Dino was a darn good player in a down era for the C's

[Edited on 11/9/2017 by Stephen]


Stephen - 11/20/2017 at 03:58 PM

Like him or hate em, the numbers don't lie
30-37, 339 yards, started the game 9-for-9 as Mexican fans chanted his name the whole time

they knew what they were seeing -- the best QB of them all who'll stay that way well into the future
it's something that any sports fan appreciates & acknowledges -- Here,Today>Now, TB12 is the best to ever take snaps over center barking signals while reading the defense

was gonna say, Browns off schneid Dec. 3 when Josh Gordon returns
But, in addition to losses they also probly lead league in starters lost to injury -- every week it's someone -- they're asking coach Jackson to win w/a college-level team
...so, as Paul Brown, Otto Graham, Marion Motley & Lou "The Toe" Groza roll in their graves.....0-16 looming

RIP, Terry Glenn

[Edited on 11/20/2017 by Stephen]


BIGV - 11/20/2017 at 04:31 PM

How about those Saints?

Down by 15 with just over 3 minutes to play, they score 2 TDs, get the two pt. conversion, lose the OT coin flip and win the game....

Not a bad days work

Remember this name, Alvin Kamara


gondicar - 11/27/2017 at 02:18 AM


Wis608 - 11/27/2017 at 12:40 PM

It looks like the TB12 fanboy is back.


jszfunk - 11/27/2017 at 12:43 PM

Whats up with the Chiefs? They started out 5-0 and dropped 5 of the last 6. Ouch!


Lee - 11/27/2017 at 08:31 PM

quote:
Whats up with the Chiefs? They started out 5-0 and dropped 5 of the last 6. Ouch!


I just read an article that suggested they need to bench Alex Smith. Funny, the media was singing his praises a month ago.


Stephen - 11/27/2017 at 09:58 PM

quote:
How about those Saints?

Remember this name, Alvin Kamara


That game Vince was on the TV in the other room where I work -- his name was mentioned a lot, w/the announcers saying about how he was averaging 7.6 yards per touch etc -- 101yds passing, 87 rushing -- not too shabby


nebish - 12/3/2017 at 09:00 PM

This Chiefs-Jets game, I've never seen anything quite like it.


nebish - 12/3/2017 at 09:10 PM

It's gotten even more bizzare after I posted!


Lee - 12/3/2017 at 10:10 PM

Chiefs have turned into a mess. How can you lose to the lowly Jets?


BIGV - 12/4/2017 at 02:53 AM


Lee - 12/4/2017 at 09:05 PM

Ben McAdoo out with the Giants. Doubt anyone is surprised by that. What a mess.


jszfunk - 12/5/2017 at 12:14 PM

Gronkowski gets one game for this hit
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21667821/nfl-suspends-rob-gronkowski-new -england-patriots-one-game-late-hit

Ryan Shazier , scary hit
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21669742/pittsburgh-steelers-linebacker- ryan-shazier-carted-field-back-injury


emr - 12/5/2017 at 02:23 PM

quote:
Gronkowski gets one game for this hit
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21667821/nfl-suspends-rob-gronkowski-new -england-patriots-one-game-late-hit

Ryan Shazier , scary hit
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21669742/pittsburgh-steelers-linebacker- ryan-shazier-carted-field-back-injury


Re: Gronk. It reminded me of when Clemens threw the broken bat at Mike Piazza during the WS. Gronk seemed annoyed that offensive pass interference wasn't called and retaliated.

Like Clemens it makes me worried that something other than blood is coursing through his veins


Lee - 12/7/2017 at 10:56 AM

Not to defend Clemens in that incident but I bet he could have hit Piazza if he had wanted to.


porkchopbob - 12/8/2017 at 07:28 PM

I don't think there are any Vikings fans around these parts, but as an NFL history fan (and even as a Packers fan) this history on the Vikings' original uniforms is pretty interesting.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21409647/the-full-story-how-viking-unifo rms-came-minnesota

Former LA Rams QB Norm Van Brocklin was the Vikings' first head coach. The Rams are well known for having the first helmet graphics with their famous horns, which was easily adapted to the norse-themed Vikings by LA-based cartoonist Karl Hubenthal. And just as Curly Lambeau applied his Fighting Irish alma mater color scheme to his Packers (green/blue & gold) the Vikings' PR director used his University of Washington color scheme.




Lee - 12/8/2017 at 07:57 PM

That's interesting, thanks for sharing. When I was a little kid my favorite player was Fran Tarkenton. No idea why I chose him but I did. Had a Vikings jersey of him when I was seven or eight years old.

Ah the memories!


jszfunk - 12/9/2017 at 01:22 PM

quote:
I don't think there are any Vikings fans around these parts, but as an NFL history fan (and even as a Packers fan) this history on the Vikings' original uniforms is pretty interesting.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21409647/the-full-story-how-viking-unifo rms-came-minnesota

Former LA Rams QB Norm Van Brocklin was the Vikings' first head coach. The Rams are well known for having the first helmet graphics with their famous horns, which was easily adapted to the norse-themed Vikings by LA-based cartoonist Karl Hubenthal. And just as Curly Lambeau applied his Fighting Irish alma mater color scheme to his Packers (green/blue & gold) the Vikings' PR director used his University of Washington color scheme.






Gotta love these guys!


Lee - 12/10/2017 at 01:15 PM

Looking forward to some good games today. Lions & Packers both need to win to stay in the playoff hunt.

Eagles / Rams should be fun.

And Seattle getting points against the Jags. That one is interesting.


LeglizHemp - 12/11/2017 at 10:21 PM

pictures from the bills colts game

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/2017/12/11/snow-colts-game-made-chall enging-photograph-but-man-fun/940156001/


jszfunk - 12/12/2017 at 12:37 PM

To bad about Wentz . I am sure that will hurt.

How the Colts-Bills blizzard game could cost Adam Vinatieri $500,000

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/12/nfl-colts-bills-blizzard-snow-adam-vinatier i-contract-bonus


jszfunk - 12/18/2017 at 11:45 AM



http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000894836/article/nfl-steelers-jesse-j ames-lost-control-of-the-football

In what has been a one-sided rivalry of AFC superpowers, it appeared Sunday evening that the Pittsburgh Steelers had finally earned their moment of glory against New England, with homefield advantage in the playoffs as a reward. And then the NFL overturned tight end Jesse James' go-ahead touchdown with 29 seconds to play.

NFL SVP/officiating Al Riveron released a video Sunday night that explained the play's ruling. After showing the play, Riveron notes that James was going to the ground as he completed the apparent catch.









"That's the key here. [James] is going to the ground. By rule, to complete the process of the catch, he must survive the ground. And by that, we mean he must maintain control of the football," Riveron said. "He does put the ball over the goal line extended. Once he gets there, he loses control of the football and then the ball hits the ground. ... Therefore two things occur: He loses control of the football, and the ball touches the ground prior to him regaining control. Therefore, the ruling on the field of a touchdown was changed to an incomplete pass."

The NFL is in a tricky spot when it comes to the catch rule. Every Sunday, especially this Sunday across the league, it feels like multiple games are decided by interpretations of a rule that few broadcasters, much less fans, can anticipate. It did not help the confusion that the excellent CBS crew of Jim Nantz and Tony Romo didn't even consider that James' apparent touchdown might not be a catch until it was replayed many times and the game was delayed significantly.

"[James] lost complete control of the football. That was the ruling of the replay," referee Tony Corrente said in the pool report released after the game.

The decision to overturn the touchdown appears to be the correct interpretation of a rule, but these rules were written before the advent of multiple cameras, HD technology and the ability to slow down replays to microseconds to see a ball slightly move. The improvement in technology has come with unintended consequences and the move this season to centralize replay decisions in the New York office has not helped to simplify the rule to fans, at least not yet. (The phrase "No one knows what a catch is" has been heard plenty this season.)

Another correct interpretation of a controversial rule -- the tuck rule -- once benefitted the Patriots before the rule was eventually changed. It's always possible that the fine print of the catch rule could be revisited yet again this offseason by the Competition Committee. That won't be much consolation to Steelers fans, especially after Ben Roethlisberger's inexplicable decision to throw into triple coverage a few plays later.


porkchopbob - 12/18/2017 at 03:26 PM

I can kind of understand the Steelers TD call, since he lost control of the ball on his own. The ground can't cause a fumble, but that doesn't matter if you don't secure it first. But I can also see it being a TD when the ball crosses the goal line, and then he loses control of the ball, at which point it shouldn't matter.

Then again, my Packers were a butt cheek away from staying alive in the playoff hunt. It's not the season anyone anticipated, there wasn't any room for error, but at least we swept the Bears and beat the Cowboys and Seahawks!


stormyrider - 12/18/2017 at 03:49 PM

unlike a run, the play isn't over when the ball crosses the goal line - the receiver has to make the catch.
Proper call, bad rule that has to be fixed.

Of course, anyone who watched the NE - Seattle SB should know NOT to throw a pass in the middle of the field near the goal line at the end of a game.


LeglizHemp - 12/20/2017 at 03:04 AM

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/12/19/colts-players-ch uck-pagano-should-he-stay-go/960777001/


jszfunk - 12/20/2017 at 01:01 PM

quote:
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2017/12/19/colts-play ers-chuck-pagano-should-he-stay-go/960777001/


I like Chuck, but it's time. I thought with Grigson being gone and a healthy Luck, he would be fine.

This team is in worse shape now than when he started , but I do not blame all that on him.

Ryan Grigson is the gift that keeps on giving.

I don't have enough room to write a dissertation on Mr Grigson and the state of this franchise, and nobody else really cares outside of Indy to read this, nor should they.

My biggest fear is Andrew Lucks future. They might be wise to draft a QB this year, or go with Jacoby. I think he is talented enough, but needs some more coaching and a decent offensive line in front of him, he has almost kinda regressed. Probably from taking a beating and not given enough time to feel comfortable behind the poor blocking. Some of it is him for poor reads/holding the ball, but I give him a pass for being young and coming in with very little playing time if that.

Chris Ballard has his hands full.


LeglizHemp - 12/20/2017 at 05:05 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2750152-nfl-pro-bowl-selections-2018-vot ing-results-and-full-list-of-players-announced?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_m edium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial

If the Colts don't send a player to Orlando through the alternate process, it will be the first time since 1997 that they're not represented at the Pro Bowl.


nebish - 12/22/2017 at 06:43 PM

I've always known the expression "the ground can't cause a fumble, but it can cause an incompletion".

People say "well it would've been a catch in college", that is because his knee was down with possession, but in the NFL a knee being down without defender contact means nothing.

I'm not sure they need to revise or change the catch rule as it is. And I'm not a Pats fan or a Steeler fan.


gondicar - 12/27/2017 at 02:40 AM

I almost feel sorry for Steeler fans.

#sorrynotsorry #gopats


Lee - 12/28/2017 at 09:28 PM

Johnny Manziel to the CFL?


Lee - 1/1/2018 at 11:50 AM

I eked out a third place finish in my NFL pick 'em league this year by one game. Pays out about a hundred bucks or something. Not too bad for third place.


Lee - 1/1/2018 at 01:12 PM

Jack Del Rio and Jim Caldwell gone so far. Happy New Year eh?


jszfunk - 1/2/2018 at 01:34 PM

Wild Card Round

AFC byes: New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers

NFC byes: Philadelphia Eagles, Minnesota Vikings

Saturday, Jan. 6

GAME 1: Tennessee Titans at Kansas City Chiefs, 4:35 p.m., ESPN/ABC

GAME 2: Atlanta Falcons at Los Angeles Rams, 8:15 p.m., NBC

Sunday, Jan. 7

GAME 3: Buffalo Bills at Jacksonville Jaguars, 1:05 p.m., CBS

GAME 4: Carolina Panthers at New Orleans Saints, 4:40 p.m., FOX


porkchopbob - 1/2/2018 at 03:50 PM

I'm over being bummed about my Packers season since it was pretty much done the moment Rodgers' collarbone snapped, but I'm excited for all of the new playoff teams - Buffalo, LA, Tennessee, even Jacksonville. Should be interesting, though I wouldn't be surprised if the AFC Championship ends up being NE v Pitt. Neither Buffalo, KC or Tennessee look up to the task, but there is always one surprise early round knock out. My guess is that will be Minnesota - the NFC is much more evenly matched and, I mean, Minnesota just finds a way.


Lee - 1/4/2018 at 12:59 PM

I like all four underdogs this weekend. Not to win, but I'll take the points. Tenn +9, Atl +6, But+9, Car+7.

It'll never happen but what the heck.


Lee - 1/5/2018 at 12:44 PM

Boy are the Patriots a good soap opera story. Who leaves Beantown first?


nebish - 1/5/2018 at 03:04 PM

I would have to look, I do know last year favorites went 4-0 in this round, however I have always assosiated next week as a better historical week for favorites. Perception says home teams are great in the playoffs, which generally is true, but in this opening round, I think there is a better chance for dogs to cover. (edit favs went 4-0 last year this week, and all by DD).

Lines sure are high.

I do think I like Tennessee. I can see ways Atlanta makes a game of it, but I think they are the weaker team, they just have that been-there experience. Can you really trust Jax to cover that many? But can you trust Buffalo to score much? Saints 2-0 vs Carolina this year with both wins being by double digits. For all the talk of 'it is hard to beat a team 3x in the same year', I heard a stat that said the team who won the first two are something like 65% in the 3rd game SU.

[Edited on 1/5/2018 by nebish]


oldcoot - 1/5/2018 at 04:21 PM

quote:
I would have to look, I do know last year favorites went 4-0 in this round, however I have always assosiated next week as a better historical week for favorites. Perception says home teams are great in the playoffs, which generally is true, but in this opening round, I think there is a better chance for dogs to cover. (edit favs went 4-0 last year this week, and all by DD).

Lines sure are high.

I do think I like Tennessee. I can see ways Atlanta makes a game of it, but I think they are the weaker team, they just have that been-there experience. Can you really trust Jax to cover that many? But can you trust Buffalo to score much? Saints 2-0 vs Carolina this year with both wins being by double digits. For all the talk of 'it is hard to beat a team 3x in the same year', I heard a stat that said the team who won the first two are something like 65% in the 3rd game SU.

[Edited on 1/5/2018 by nebish]



Two years ago, dogs went 4-0 in this round and neb is correct, favs went 4-0 last year.

I'm maybe looking at much at totals as teams. If McCoy is out for Buffalo, how do they score and Jax is a pretty poor offense too. Mariotta just isn't very good. More INTs than TDs in a passing oriented game. Still mulling things but I have a hunch Newton will make just enough plays that CAR can cover, but not win. Interested to see who ends up playing PHIL, there is more of a dropoff to Foles than I thought from Wentz. Philly could very well get beat next week no matter who they play.

Still rolling things around the old bean.


Lee - 1/5/2018 at 08:47 PM

Changes my mind on one of them. I like like Rams giving six. Just don't trust Matt Ryan. Atlanta seems to be all over the place.


porkchopbob - 1/5/2018 at 09:02 PM

I pick KC, ATL, JAX, and NO.

Slump Bowl. I don't trust Andy Reid teams in the playoffs, but the Titans are even luckier than the Chiefs are to still be playing.

I'd like to see the Rams get a win, but they are super young. Most likely upset.

I'd also like to see Buffalo get a win, but Jacksonville is surprisingly solid this season.

I'll be surprised if this isn't the closest game of the weekend - two teams that know each other well and are pretty evenly matched. But New Orleans has been better all season.


Lee - 1/5/2018 at 10:11 PM

It would be cool to see Buffalo win a game. I know I have posted this someplace on the site but Marv Levy lives right around the corner from here. Be nice to see him get to watch a win.


nebish - 1/6/2018 at 04:01 AM

OK, first round of the playoffs, how the dogs do?

2017 Favs 4-0 ats and su

2016 Favs 1-2-1 ats and 3-1 su (1 upset GB at Wash, Seattle was a road fav and won but did not cover, the push was Pit at Cin - the meltdown game by Bengals, my source showed line at 2 which is what Pitt won by and KC won big at Houston)

2015 Favs 2-2 ats 3-1 su (Balt won at Pitt as 3 pt dog, Det lost at Dal by 4 catching 6).

2014 Favs 0-3-1 ats, 1-3 su (SD won +6 at Cincy and KC was road fav and lost at Indy, think this was a big comeback game. Saints won at Phil in the upset and SF won at GB by 3, which my line shows 3 for the push. Road teams were 3-1 SU).

2013 Favs 4-0 ats and su (boring no dogs or upsets)

2012 Favs 3-1 ats and su (Pitt was upset at Denver which went to overtime - TEBOW!)

2011 Favs 1-3 ats and su (Beastmode upset the Saints and Jets won at Indy, GB won at Philly as a small dog, Balt won as a road fav at KC. Road teams were 3-1 SU).

2010 Favs 1-3 ats and su (Balt won at NE and Zona beat GB at home for Sunday upsets, Jets also won on the road for 3 road dog upsets!)


[Edited on 1/6/2018 by nebish]


nebish - 1/6/2018 at 04:08 AM

Murray is out for Tennessee...does that matter, isn't Henry maybe better? Some say is pass protection is lacking, I don't know.

The Mariotta issue, I've heard many blame the play calling for his lackluster play at times...he needs to use the legs! He was hurt midseason and it seemed to be lingering a bit when he came back. Heard a Titan player say something to the effect of "Marcus overcame the play calling today to get this win"...interesting.


Lee - 1/6/2018 at 12:52 PM

Rams...


oldcoot - 1/6/2018 at 04:51 PM

quote:
Murray is out for Tennessee...does that matter, isn't Henry maybe better? Some say is pass protection is lacking, I don't know.

The Mariotta issue, I've heard many blame the play calling for his lackluster play at times...he needs to use the legs! He was hurt midseason and it seemed to be lingering a bit when he came back. Heard a Titan player say something to the effect of "Marcus overcame the play calling today to get this win"...interesting.



Henry is a capable back, I don't think they lose anything with Murray out other than bringing in a fresh back from time to time. I like a play on the total there. Have been listening to quite a few shows with commentary, maybe it's the KC as a "local" team influence, but my line is -9 1/2, which is above the national spread. I would lean toward TN if I had to pick a team, and will definitely take them if it touches 10.

I like Atl +6 1/2, Jax no matter what (will have my biggest wager of the weekend on the under there) and still trying to decide on CAR/NO. Currently, that one is NO -7 on my sheet.


BIGV - 1/6/2018 at 05:58 PM

Panthers/Saints will go to the last possession and I am nervous as hell.


oldcoot - 1/7/2018 at 01:01 AM

quote:
Boy are the Patriots a good soap opera story. Who leaves Beantown first?



Belichick


oldcoot - 1/7/2018 at 01:03 AM

Over comes in on game one.


Let's go Falcons!


Lee - 1/7/2018 at 11:20 AM

Guess I was right on the dogs. Didn't even need the points. Glad I didn't pull the trigger on the Rams though.

Can't believe the Chefs getting cooked in the second half.


Lee - 1/7/2018 at 01:30 PM

Not sure about the Buf / Jack game but I should probably put something on it. I kind of hope Buf can do something. Hell, it's been so long...


nebish - 1/7/2018 at 02:15 PM

I split with Ten and Rams. Fell asleep in 2nd half of Rams game, didn't miss much. Not ready for primetime. Special teams mistakes hurt which is strange because special teams has been such a big part of their success this year. I was hoping Goff would throw it all around, but he wasn't really sharp.

Tennessee was a fun game, as long as you weren't a Chiefs fan. Have to think that TE Kelsey going out played a big role, but still, one of your weapons shouldn't hamstring you like that. I thought they were forcing the ball too much to Hill to hope he would break something.


oldcoot - 1/7/2018 at 04:00 PM

Atlanta an early 3 point fav at Philly.


oldcoot - 1/7/2018 at 07:46 PM

Under on Jax/Buff looking like the mortal lock I figured it would be. At least it isn't the college overtime rule where they can keep punching touchdowns in during multiple OTs.


Going to have CAR +7 in the late game. Hope it's more exciting than the first half of game one has been.


jszfunk - 1/7/2018 at 09:29 PM

Tough brake for the Bills.


Lee - 1/7/2018 at 10:09 PM

quote:
Atlanta an early 3 point fav at Philly.


I'll take Philly and a field goal at home. Don't care who the QB is.


porkchopbob - 1/8/2018 at 03:30 PM

No real surprises this weekend. I picked 3 out of 4, the 4th just proved that the Chiefs and Titans are each equally mediocre.

The New Orleans is going to have another tough game this weekend, but Keenum (who didn't face the Saints in the regular season) is bound to trip up. I'm picking Philly, New England, Pittsburgh, New Orleans.


porkchopbob - 1/8/2018 at 05:20 PM

Speaking of Andy Reid's mediocrity, the Bears have hired their latest future ex-coach, Chiefs' OC Matt Nagy.


Lee - 1/12/2018 at 09:22 PM

Came in third in my pick 'em league. Won about $200. Was also the weekly winner twice so overall I won about $500 less the $150 to get in so I got $350 for the season. Not bad, fun season.

Last year I won almost $1,000 coming in first.

On to some better playoff picks!


Lee - 1/12/2018 at 09:30 PM

Lots of fun prop bets for the weekend. A lot of weird ones. I think my favorite is will there be an onside kick in the four games. "No" is the underdog, +170. That one surprised me.


Lee - 1/12/2018 at 10:26 PM

Oh wait, there's a better one: How many times will Carson Wentz' name be mentioned in the Eagles game? The over/under is 2.5

Halftime doesn't count.

I wonder whose job it is to keep track of that. Be a fun gig!


oldcoot - 1/13/2018 at 05:48 PM

quote:
Oh wait, there's a better one: How many times will Carson Wentz' name be mentioned in the Eagles game? The over/under is 2.5

Halftime doesn't count.

I wonder whose job it is to keep track of that. Be a fun gig!



My guy doesn't offer money lines, prop bets etc, just straight action.

On the Wentz prop, I wonder if once the coverage starts, but before the game starts, if those mentions would count? Even if it's just during the actual game, my guess is it would be more than 2.5 times.


Lee - 1/13/2018 at 06:32 PM

There are parameters. Whistle to whistle I guess you would say. Other than halftime as I mentioned. It's 5 to 1 on the over under. I can't believe there is anyway in the world his name won't be mentioned 3 times.


oldcoot - 1/13/2018 at 08:59 PM

On Atlanta -2 1/2, thinking their recent playoff experience will help, plus if it comes down to a FG attempt, Bryant is damn good.


oldcoot - 1/13/2018 at 09:05 PM

quote:
Came in third in my pick 'em league. Won about $200. Was also the weekly winner twice so overall I won about $500 less the $150 to get in so I got $350 for the season. Not bad, fun season.

Last year I won almost $1,000 coming in first.

On to some better playoff picks!





Nice!


Lee - 1/13/2018 at 09:20 PM

Thanks! Yeah, not bad. Plowed most of it back into the playoffs. Hope I don't lose my shirt!


nebish - 1/13/2018 at 09:28 PM

No idea in this first game. Hoping Tennessee can pull a shocker in the second.


oldcoot - 1/14/2018 at 12:11 AM

quote:
There are parameters. Whistle to whistle I guess you would say. Other than halftime as I mentioned. It's 5 to 1 on the over under. I can't believe there is anyway in the world his name won't be mentioned 3 times.


Casually listening Iíve heard Wentz three times. Sometimes only Wentz, did it have to be the full name?


oldcoot - 1/14/2018 at 12:46 AM

Nice game by Philly.

Onto the Evil Empire.


Lee - 1/14/2018 at 02:02 AM

quote:
quote:
There are parameters. Whistle to whistle I guess you would say. Other than halftime as I mentioned. It's 5 to 1 on the over under. I can't believe there is anyway in the world his name won't be mentioned 3 times.


Casually listening Iíve heard Wentz three times. Sometimes only Wentz, did it have to be the full name?


I wondered about that too. I heard it a few times but it still hasn't posted. Who knows.


Lee - 1/14/2018 at 04:36 PM

Still considered an "open bet". I know I heard his whole name twice in the first quarter (they showed him once) and I heard Carson once and Wentz once. I don't think lawyers need to get involved but maybe they should just call it a wash. I did put a fair amount of money it.

For me anyway.


oldcoot - 1/14/2018 at 06:33 PM

On Jax, got them yesterday at 7 1/2 when I heard Brown might not play, didnít want it to drop.

Put a bundle on NE last night and greased into the over too with the late touchdown and XP. Won by 1/2 point. Nice to win one like that instead of the other way around.

Everyone I know is on the Saints later, I took the Vikes giving 5. I think their D carries the day.

Jax off to a real good start.


jszfunk - 1/15/2018 at 03:30 PM

Wow! Vikings game was pretty special!

Starting qb's for the last four standing. Guess not who you would expect for the most part.


Case Keenum
Nick Foles
Blake Bortles
Tom Brady


oldcoot - 1/15/2018 at 04:13 PM

Can't believe how badly the DB whiffed on that last play.

Never so glad to get a push on the wager.

Early lines, NE by 9, Minn by 3.5


Lee - 1/15/2018 at 10:08 PM

quote:
Can't believe how badly the DB whiffed on that last play.

Never so glad to get a push on the wager.

Early lines, NE by 9, Minn by 3.5


Interesting how that played out. Line wise. If anyone thought they would try that extra point they were kidding themselves. Can't believe I won but I was only giving four. Figured I had lost.


emr - 1/15/2018 at 11:44 PM

quote:
quote:
Can't believe how badly the DB whiffed on that last play.

Never so glad to get a push on the wager.

Early lines, NE by 9, Minn by 3.5


Interesting how that played out. Line wise. If anyone thought they would try that extra point they were kidding themselves. Can't believe I won but I was only giving four. Figured I had lost.


I believe that unless the game was tied there is no option to go for the pat


emr - 1/16/2018 at 03:02 AM

quote:
quote:
quote:
Can't believe how badly the DB whiffed on that last play.

Never so glad to get a push on the wager.

Early lines, NE by 9, Minn by 3.5


Interesting how that played out. Line wise. If anyone thought they would try that extra point they were kidding themselves. Can't believe I won but I was only giving four. Figured I had lost.


I believe that unless the game was tied there is no option to go for the pat



Apparently I'm wrong. ?rationale is that points differential can determine playoff eligibility/position.
Also that a fumbled PAT could be returned for a score


Lee - 1/16/2018 at 12:46 PM

quote:


Apparently I'm wrong. ?rationale is that points differential can determine playoff eligibility/position.
Also that a fumbled PAT could be returned for a score


The teams were already seeded and their spots established. Points wouldn't have mattered here. Probably in a regular season game though, as you said.


I don't think it would have mattered had a missed PAT been returned. I could be wrong but I think it is only worth two points so it wouldn't have mattered in this case. I don't understand why they made them run that play; it couldn't have had any way to change the output of the game.

I can't understand why they made them run the play. If this same situation had occurred in overtime, they don't kick the PAT. Scoring team wins by six. (Well, now it could be three if the other team had already kicked a field goal). That's why an OT game can never end in a team winning by seven; they don't kick the PAT.

It was stupid. Heck, they had to get 11 guys out of the Saints locker room to line up for that meaningless "play".


emr - 1/16/2018 at 03:06 PM

quote:
quote:


Apparently I'm wrong. ?rationale is that points differential can determine playoff eligibility/position.
Also that a fumbled PAT could be returned for a score


The teams were already seeded and their spots established. Points wouldn't have mattered here. Probably in a regular season game though, as you said.


I don't think it would have mattered had a missed PAT been returned. I could be wrong but I think it is only worth two points so it wouldn't have mattered in this case. I don't understand why they made them run that play; it couldn't have had any way to change the output of the game.

I can't understand why they made them run the play. If this same situation had occurred in overtime, they don't kick the PAT. Scoring team wins by six. (Well, now it could be three if the other team had already kicked a field goal). That's why an OT game can never end in a team winning by seven; they don't kick the PAT.

It was stupid. Heck, they had to get 11 guys out of the Saints locker room to line up for that meaningless "play".


Yup. The playoff rule should be changed to game over


oldcoot - 1/18/2018 at 06:16 PM

Got my sheet (yours may vary), NE -9, Minn -3.

Total NE/Jax 46 1/2, Minn/Phil 39.

Okay those who will be wagering, who you got Sunday?


Lee - 1/20/2018 at 12:10 PM

The Pats line dropped to eight. Apparently everyone is on The Jags. Hate New England but it is tough to bet against them so I will lay the points.

On the other one, I like the Vikings. My line is three and a half. As I have mentioned before I can get it down to three if I buy that extra half point. It never, ever matters. Still, it's kind of a security blanket.


Lee - 1/20/2018 at 12:23 PM

A lot of fun prop bets tomorrow.

Will there be a safety? An onside kick? A TD overturned?

They pay out well.


Lee - 1/20/2018 at 12:29 PM

There's already one for The Super Bowl. How long will it take Pink to sing The National Anthem?

Over/Under: Two minutes.

Hell, it has to take longer than that!!


oldcoot - 1/20/2018 at 04:11 PM

quote:
The Pats line dropped to eight. Apparently everyone is on The Jags. Hate New England but it is tough to bet against them so I will lay the points.

On the other one, I like the Vikings. My line is three and a half. As I have mentioned before I can get it down to three if I buy that extra half point. It never, ever matters. Still, it's kind of a security blanket.



Probably a combination of folks that like Jax regardless and wanted the higher number plus Brady getting four stitches to the thumb knuckle of his throwing hand. Listed as questionable for the game but I'm not buying that. Line down to seven and o/u down to 45.

Second game, I may play the total rather than a team, haven't yet decided.


Lee - 1/20/2018 at 07:04 PM

Should have taken the over on the Picksburg game. last week Almost went to 100.


emr - 1/21/2018 at 04:09 PM

And when questioned about bradys hand injury belicheck denied that Brady has a hand


oldcoot - 1/21/2018 at 08:14 PM

Ended up on NE -8 and also some on the under.

Have under On game two, still mulling whether to have a team or not.


oldcoot - 1/21/2018 at 11:23 PM

Damn, really thought Jacksonville would slay the dragon.

On Vikings and the under. Seems to me, Minnesota can beat NE at home, Philly doesnít match up very well against the Patties.


jszfunk - 1/22/2018 at 12:15 PM

quote:
Damn, really thought Jacksonville would slay the dragon.




Yeah, me too.
They are probably gonna be sick watching that game film. Up 10 with 9mins left. I think they had about 98yrds in penalties.


porkchopbob - 1/22/2018 at 01:54 PM

As soon as Jacksonville started giving up yards from penalties, it felt over. The Pats never looked worried while Bortles couldn't get the ball down field in the 2nd half (Pats' corners had one of the best games I've seen from a secondary). I'm sure we all had deja vu - it's almost as if Belichek spots opponents a few just to make them feel comfortable. And it's not like the Jags didn't look good, they put up a pretty good fight.

And Philly - still surprised they were an underdog at home to Minnesota. The Vikings beat an ok Saints team at the buzzer, but Foles is a better QB than he is given credit.

Who would have thought 15 years after the Pats defeated the Donovan McNabb's Eagles in the Super Bowl that we'd have a rematch and Tom Brady would still be under center? I actually think Philly has a pretty good chance.


kevdab - 1/22/2018 at 02:39 PM

The dragon lives.
The advantage that the Patriots have every game is coaching. It's almost unfair. How prepared they are for every situation is unbelievable.
Brady is pretty good too!


pops42 - 1/22/2018 at 02:55 PM

quote:
The dragon lives.
The advantage that the Patriots have every game is coaching. It's almost unfair. How prepared they are for every situation is unbelievable.
Brady is pretty good too!
I have to give it to them for consistency. I think they should hold off on getting those Super Bowl shirts printed up.


jszfunk - 1/23/2018 at 12:38 PM

Eagles fan who ran into subway pole says he is OK

video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrB7aqfRzyE

PHILADELPHIA -- An Eagles fan whose attempt to rally subway passengers for a playoff game ended with him running into a concrete pole.

Jigar Desai said he is doing OK and his pain eased with the Eagles' 38-7 win over the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday night in the NFC Championship Game.


The mishap occurred while Desai was heading to the game. He had a few drinks while watching the New England Patriots defeat the Jacksonville Jaguars in the AFC Championship Game.

The 42-year-old Eagles season-ticket holder from suburban Philadelphia said he got pumped up watching a group of Eagles fans on a train heading in the opposite direction and wanted to get them excited. Thomas Emmet Ashton, who recorded a video of the incident, told the Philadelphia Inquirer that Desai, who was in a Brian Dawkins jersey, was running alongside the train while trying to rally passengers before he crashed into a pole.


Yeah, I hit the pole, but the passion is there," Desai said. "It reflects the passion of the entire city. We are good fans. Yeah, there are a couple of bad apples in the mix -- in any city you're going to find that. But I think as a whole we have supported this team for years and years and years. I think this city is ready to bring home the hardware."

The Eagles will face the Patriots, the reigning NFL champions, in Super Bowl LII on Feb. 4 in Minneapolis. It will be the 10th appearance in the Super Bowl for the Patriots but just the third for the Eagles, who've never won it. The Pats have five Vince Lombardi Trophies.

Desai, who described himself as a "10-pound baby from India" who moved to Pennsylvania when he was a child, said his postgame celebration was a lot tamer and that he went to his job at a pharmaceutical company on Monday, although he was a bit sore. He said he might go to the doctor on Tuesday.

The subway platform run was perhaps the most viral moment from Sunday's festivities in Philadelphia, which included videos of fans climbing light poles slicked with Crisco, Eagles fans throwing beer at Vikings fans and a fan arrested for punching a police horse.

"I'm not throwing bottles or punching horses," Desai said. "It was just running into a pole."


emr - 1/23/2018 at 02:17 PM

Our government is spending billions looking for a link between Russia/Putin and either Hillary/Trump. Everyone knows this is all fake; but Putin is the controlling force behind Billy B/Tom B. There is no other rational explanation.


oldcoot - 1/28/2018 at 06:57 PM

Line down to -4.5 for New England, O/U 48.

I would imagine that line bumps up if Gronkowski is cleared.

No strong feeling on the total, although weather will not be a factor and the game is on plastic grass.


fensranger - 1/29/2018 at 02:34 PM

sure would love to see what would happen in Philly if the Eagles win. I think everyone has Brady on such an incredible pedestal these days that he is larger than life and NFL history.
Difficult to believe that no one can solve Patriots or Belachek.

I would love to see Eagles win because nobody is that good for so long.


jszfunk - 1/29/2018 at 04:31 PM

quote:
sure would love to see what would happen in Philly if the Eagles win. I think everyone has Brady on such an incredible pedestal these days that he is larger than life and NFL history.
Difficult to believe that no one can solve Patriots or Belachek.

I would love to see Eagles win because nobody is that good for so long.


Nick Foles will need to come and play like he did in the NFC championship game and the "D" will have to be on point. Would love to see a Philly win.


nebish - 1/30/2018 at 12:51 AM

Does anyone have 4k TV service?

I was thinking Directv might offer the Super Bowl in 4k this year. NFL has recorded the Super Bowl in 4k for 2 years prior but it wasn;t distributed to my knowledge. I see Directv is offering some 4k content. Anyone know how much they charge to upgrade?


Lee - 1/30/2018 at 01:34 PM

quote:
Line down to -4.5 for New England, O/U 48.

I would imagine that line bumps up if Gronkowski is cleared.

No strong feeling on the total, although weather will not be a factor and the game is on plastic grass.


He is the third highest to win the Super Bowl MVP. Found that odd.


nebish - 1/30/2018 at 02:27 PM

Searched a bit. No 4k for SB. Directv is doing some NBA in 4K, but we donít get the channel. NBC will do the Olympics n 4K I read.

[Edited on 1/30/2018 by nebish]


Stephen - 1/31/2018 at 01:16 AM

Yeah they won it last year

it's the Lombardi trophy they're least proud of tho -- after all, one of if not the **** tiest halves of football they've ever played in the Belichick/Brady era was....yep, in SB 2017 (28-3)

it didn't get much better last week, when penalties as much as anything enabled them to advance

they know 3 times won't be a charm -- this Phila squad would see to that if handed a big lead

KC is getting a great coach -- the D will be dialed in to the nines to make his last game of a stellar six years w/Pats, a winning one

[Edited on 1/31/2018 by Stephen]


Stephen - 1/31/2018 at 03:15 PM

Wait that's not right -- thought this was his last year & that he was going to KC after initial reports said NYG -- but it was Lions, not KC -- & apparently no done deals -- yahoo

what they've done this year w/out Julian Edelman -- it's what they've done all along for most part -- heck even in 2008-09 when Brady was injured, they went 11-5

clinical, methodical, workmanlike -- not 'smashmouth', that went the way of the Big Tuna -- just 60 min of Pats football, & along-about 4th qtr on Sunday, anti-Toms will be breaking out ear muffies & into pouts as the chant of "Bra-dy, Bra-dy, Bra-dy" will be heard all the way back to Foxborough
....en route to final score of....28-10


[Edited on 1/31/2018 by Stephen]


porkchopbob - 1/31/2018 at 05:12 PM

Alex Smith traded to Washington. That means the Kirk Cousins era is over in DC. Really weird the way he was treated, for being a pretty decent QB he was never given much support. There is chatter that he might go to Minnesota, which would continue the Vikings' pattern of dismissing QBs that win games for them.

Meanwhile Smith goes to a mediocre 'Skins team that he can either resurrect or sink with as his career winds down. Is Smith a really good QB who never got a chance to finish a campaign or is he a mediocre QB who was ditched for an upgrade?


BoytonBrother - 1/31/2018 at 05:50 PM

Lifelong Eagles fan here. 2 of the Patriots superbowls are tainted from cheating: Ď04 v the Eagles with Spygate, and then deflate gate. The one last year v Atlanta was handed to them 800 times throughout the second half. It truly seemed like Atlanta didnít want the win, and wanted to give Brady a bunch of chances to come back. Only 2 of their Superbowls are legit. And if the spying and deflation had no affect, then why do it? Anyway, if the Eagles donít turn the ball over and if they donít drop passes, they win this game.


porkchopbob - 1/31/2018 at 06:36 PM

quote:
Lifelong Eagles fan here. 2 of the Patriots superbowls are tainted from cheating: Ď04 v the Eagles with Spygate, and then deflate gate. The one last year v Atlanta was handed to them 800 times throughout the second half. It truly seemed like Atlanta didnít want the win, and wanted to give Brady a bunch of chances to come back. Only 2 of their Superbowls are legit. And if the spying and deflation had no affect, then why do it? Anyway, if the Eagles donít turn the ball over and if they donít drop passes, they win this game.


What, no mention of the Tuck Rule in 2001?

I'm not a Pats fan, but I'm not buying this. The Pats have been dominant, Belicheck keeps winning games with different casts.

The Eagles have their work cut out for them, just depends on which Nick Foles shows up to play.


BoytonBrother - 1/31/2018 at 07:39 PM

I think they are dominant too. Best QB and coach for sure. But they arenít ď5 SuperbowlsĒ good.


porkchopbob - 1/31/2018 at 08:00 PM

quote:
But they arenít ď5 SuperbowlsĒ good.


Well, they won so...

quote:
Ď04 v the Eagles with Spygate...


"Spygate" was during the 2007 regular season, a year the Patriots lost the Super Bowl. Eagles lost in 2004 fair and square thanks to McNabb tossing an INT in the final minute.


BoytonBrother - 1/31/2018 at 08:27 PM

Spygate was discovered in 2007, and revealed that Bilichik was doing it improperly since 2000.

quote:
Well, they won so...


So.........what? They won 3 legitimately ( 2 if you count Atlanta playing like a little league team )


porkchopbob - 1/31/2018 at 08:34 PM

quote:
Spygate was discovered in 2007, and revealed that Bilichik was doing it improperly since 2000.

quote:
Well, they won so...


So.........what? They won 3 legitimately ( 2 if you count Atlanta playing like a little league team )


Dude, this is some pretty sour grapes. And it's not like New England didn't contribute anything to their win against Atlanta. You score more points before the buzzer, you win the game.


BoytonBrother - 1/31/2018 at 08:53 PM

Iím a Philly sports fan, what did you expect, lol. Iím confident though. Weíre all confident here about this game.


Wis608 - 2/1/2018 at 12:41 PM

Cant decide what team I want to win. Both fan bases are obnoxious to no end. I would say the only team below NE would be Philly.


Lee - 2/1/2018 at 01:26 PM

Saw this thing on the news that the city of Philadelphia has some new tricks up their sleeves regarding the greasing of the street posts downtown because obviously the Crisco didn't work. for The Championship Game.

So obviously the city knew something like this could happen. In all of the footage I saw there were very few cops. Pretty sad. What are they going to do if Philly wins Sunday?


Lee - 2/1/2018 at 01:36 PM

Regarding the game itself, tough to bet against The Pats but I kind of like getting Philly and 4.5. Maybe it'll be an entertaining game, 28-24 or something like that. Heck I never thought Philly was going to blow Minnesota out of the water so what do I know?

Going to start a big pot of chili in the slow cooker when I wake up Sunday. Might have a friend or two over.

Let's just be thankful we don't have to listen to Joe ****ing Buck.


oldcoot - 2/1/2018 at 04:22 PM

quote:
Regarding the game itself, tough to bet against The Pats but I kind of like getting Philly and 4.5. Maybe it'll be an entertaining game, 28-24 or something like that. Heck I never thought Philly was going to blow Minnesota out of the water so what do I know?

Going to start a big pot of chili in the slow cooker when I wake up Sunday. Might have a friend or two over.

Let's just be thankful we don't have to listen to Joe ****ing Buck.


My favorite sign ever, held by a fan at Wrigley during the Cubs World Series run:


"Joe Buck Yourself!"


kevdab - 2/4/2018 at 01:51 PM

Super Bowl Sunday
Go Pat's
For all of the people that are sick of the Patriots, too bad. It's a copy cat league. Why aren't there teams trying to do it he Patriot way. The AFC especially. Not the Patriots fault that they are good every year.
They've won five super bowls. All legitimate. None tainted. Even the two they lost to the Giants were great games.
I think the game will be close today, as usual. The Eagles are probably the best opponent this year. If they can keep Brady off the field they will have a chance.
Go Pat's... Do your job. Play sixty minutes.



dimplesjbc - 2/4/2018 at 04:45 PM

If Wentz was playing I would like the Eagles chances , but I have a hard time believing Nick Foles can beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl .


Lee - 2/4/2018 at 08:25 PM

quote:
Super Bowl Sunday
Go Pat's
For all of the people that are sick of the Patriots, too bad. It's a copy cat league. Why aren't there teams trying to do it he Patriot way. The AFC especially. Not the Patriots fault that they are good every year.
They've won five super bowls. All legitimate. None tainted. Even the two they lost to the Giants were great games.
I think the game will be close today, as usual. The Eagles are probably the best opponent this year. If they can keep Brady off the field they will have a chance.
Go Pat's... Do your job. Play sixty minutes.





Go Pat's what? And who is Pat? A friend of yours?


LeglizHemp - 2/4/2018 at 08:42 PM

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2018/02/04/suspected-drunken-driv er-kills-2-70/304726002/

Colts player Edwin Jackson, Avon man killed by suspected drunken driver on I-70
Justin L. Mack and Emma Kate Fittes, IndyStar Published 10:05 a.m. ET Feb. 4, 2018 | Updated 3:31 p.m. ET Feb. 4, 2018

Indianapolis Colts player Edwin Jackson was one of two people killed early Sunday after being struck by a suspected drunken driver along Interstate 70.

According to the Indiana State Police, the crash happened shortly before 4 a.m. Sunday along the westbound lanes of I-70, just west of Holt Road.

Police said Jackson and 54-year-old Jeffrey Monroe of Avon were standing near a stopped vehicle when a black Ford F-150 pickup truck drove onto the emergency shoulder and struck them both.

Investigators believe that Monroe was a ride sharing operator who pulled to the side of the road and got out of the car to assist Jackson, 26, who became ill.

"One of the people struck was thrown into the center lane of I-70," Sgt. John Perrine said in a statement. "Shortly after the crash, and before any 911 calls were received, Trooper Ty Mays was driving through the area and noticed a vehicle in front of him make an evasive maneuver to the left."

Perrine said Mays then spotted the crash along the right side of the road and activated his emergency lights.

"As he slowed to stop for the crash he struck the body of the victim in the center lane," Perrine said in a statement.

The driver of the pickup truck, identified as 37-year-old Alex Cabrera Gonsales of Indianapolis, tried to flee the scene on foot.

He was apprehended shortly after on the ramp to Holt Road by Mays, police said.

"It is believed Gonsales was intoxicated and was driving without a license," Perrine said in a statement. "He was transported to the Marion County Jail, the result of the test for intoxication is pending."

Jackson, an inside linebacker originally from Atlanta, was signed by the Colts in January 2016 after signing to the practice squad on Dec. 22, 2015. He was placed on injured reserve in September 2017.

Known by the nickname "Pound Cake," Jackson was a high school football star and state-championship-finalist wrestler in Atlanta. He attended Georgia Southern University and joined the football team as a walk on, and he previously played for the Arizona Cardinals.


gina - 2/4/2018 at 11:24 PM

Hope they check Brady's balls, just to make sure everything is on the up and up.


Lee - 2/4/2018 at 11:39 PM

quote:
Hope they check Brady's balls, just to make sure everything is on the up and up.



That's not the part of his genitalia that needs to be up.


Lee - 2/4/2018 at 11:48 PM

Gotta listen to Collinsworth. Might as well have thrown Phil Simms in there too.


kevdab - 2/5/2018 at 11:08 AM

Congrat's to the Eagles!
Good exciting game. No game changing calls from the ref's. I think they got all of the questionable calls right.
Pat's defense couldn't make any stops.
Eagles made more plays.


jszfunk - 2/5/2018 at 11:54 AM

Glad to see the Eagles win. Entertaining game. Philly did what they need to do is just keep the foot on the Pats neck and don't let up. Doug Pederson should be the MVP.

[Edited on 2/5/2018 by jszfunk]


Lee - 2/5/2018 at 12:49 PM

quote:
Congrat's to the Eagles!
Good exciting game. No game changing calls from the ref's. I think they got all of the questionable calls right.
Pat's defense couldn't make any stops.
Eagles made more plays.



Again, Pat's what?


Lee - 2/5/2018 at 01:06 PM

In all seriousness, what an entertaining game! Congrats to The Eagles and their city. Finally got one. And another good game from New England.

Wonderful day for the NFL.


porkchopbob - 2/5/2018 at 02:14 PM

Hell of a game. Both teams left everything on the table.

Should be interesting to see what happens with Nick Foles, can't imagine Philly will keep a Super Bowl MVP holding a clipboard.


fensranger - 2/5/2018 at 04:40 PM

was a great game to watch. what happened to defense i know both teams are strong but what a shambles as far as any defensive presence whatsoever. Giuys seemed to be open all over the place and was not too difficult to run either.

Anyhow, NFL has become a little too much offense, particularly with the top teams. They tend to almost be unstoppable these days.


Brendan - 2/5/2018 at 04:40 PM

Where's Mark (Piacere)???? Hope all's well with him these days, although I'm glad my Birds took one from his beloved Pats!!


PhotoRon286 - 2/5/2018 at 05:16 PM

quote:
If Wentz was playing I would like the Eagles chances , but I have a hard time believing Nick Foles can beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl .


And what do you say today?

I wish I could have enjoyed the game but I was sure the pats would find some cheap way to win it.


jszfunk - 2/5/2018 at 06:10 PM

quote:
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2018/02/04/suspected-drunke n-driver-kills-2-70/304726002/

Colts player Edwin Jackson, Avon man killed by suspected drunken driver on I-70
Justin L. Mack and Emma Kate Fittes, IndyStar Published 10:05 a.m. ET Feb. 4, 2018 | Updated 3:31 p.m. ET Feb. 4, 2018

Indianapolis Colts player Edwin Jackson was one of two people killed early Sunday after being struck by a suspected drunken driver along Interstate 70.

According to the Indiana State Police, the crash happened shortly before 4 a.m. Sunday along the westbound lanes of I-70, just west of Holt Road.

Police said Jackson and 54-year-old Jeffrey Monroe of Avon were standing near a stopped vehicle when a black Ford F-150 pickup truck drove onto the emergency shoulder and struck them both.

Investigators believe that Monroe was a ride sharing operator who pulled to the side of the road and got out of the car to assist Jackson, 26, who became ill.

"One of the people struck was thrown into the center lane of I-70," Sgt. John Perrine said in a statement. "Shortly after the crash, and before any 911 calls were received, Trooper Ty Mays was driving through the area and noticed a vehicle in front of him make an evasive maneuver to the left."

Perrine said Mays then spotted the crash along the right side of the road and activated his emergency lights.

"As he slowed to stop for the crash he struck the body of the victim in the center lane," Perrine said in a statement.

The driver of the pickup truck, identified as 37-year-old Alex Cabrera Gonsales of Indianapolis, tried to flee the scene on foot.

He was apprehended shortly after on the ramp to Holt Road by Mays, police said.

"It is believed Gonsales was intoxicated and was driving without a license," Perrine said in a statement. "He was transported to the Marion County Jail, the result of the test for intoxication is pending."

Jackson, an inside linebacker originally from Atlanta, was signed by the Colts in January 2016 after signing to the practice squad on Dec. 22, 2015. He was placed on injured reserve in September 2017.

Known by the nickname "Pound Cake," Jackson was a high school football star and state-championship-finalist wrestler in Atlanta. He attended Georgia Southern University and joined the football team as a walk on, and he previously played for the Arizona Cardinals.



https://www.wthr.com/article/police-man-that-struck-killed-colts-player-and -another-man-was-in-us-illegally
Police say 37-year-old Orrego-Savala is in the United States illegally and has previously been deported on two occasions, in 2007 and again in 2009.


I did not think he weas still on the team, but I guess he was on IR this season.
I liked him he previous season, he was oneof the young
ones showing potential at LB, which the Colts needs.

it's sad




jszfunk - 2/5/2018 at 06:11 PM

quote:
Hell of a game. Both teams left everything on the table.

Should be interesting to see what happens with Nick Foles, can't imagine Philly will keep a Super Bowl MVP holding a clipboard.


Thats what I was thinking. Some teams could use a QB, and there will be some money thrown around for him more than likely .


BoytonBrother - 2/5/2018 at 06:22 PM

quote:
If Wentz was playing I would like the Eagles chances , but I have a hard time believing Nick Foles can beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl .


The Eagles players didn't have a hard time believing it one bit. So many of them insisted they were going to win the SB back in training camp. Reporters laughed them off, but they never cracked a smile when saying it. As a fan, I laughed it off. I knew we were going to be good, but most likely lose in the 1st round of the playoffs with a young 2nd year QB. In the first couple weeks, Dougie P looked like a mini Andy Reid, making Wentz pass the ball over 45 times a game, with only 17 total rushing attempts, most of which came in the 1st half. We were worried. But then we started running the ball, Wentz emerged as the runaway MVP, and we started talking about the SB around week 12. Wentz goes down and the city mourns together. No offsense to Foles, but he just wouldn't be able to lead us the way Carson had. We see Foles win both our playoff games, while dismantling the #1 Minnesota defense like they were nothing. Even after winning the NFC Championship, even after having "the single greates performance ever by a Philadelphia athlete" (as some of our sports reporters argued), we all had doubt that he could do it again in the biggest game...versus the Goliath...the most revered franchise, coach, and QB in NFL history. It was too good to be true. Real life Rocky II, the rematch. Vegas made us the underdogs all postseason. Who will be the last man standing? The only ones who never had any doubt were the players and coaches of that team, who knew there was something special about them back in training camp. I've never been this humbled in my entire life. I just never expected Philadelphia to be so lucky as to find such a high level of character and talent. But it's legit. The Philadelphia Eagles are the gold standard in the NFL. Congratulations to everyone in that locker room who made it happen, and to all the fans who've been waiting their entire lives for this moment. Fly Eagles Fly! E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!

[Edited on 2/5/2018 by BoytonBrother]


Wis608 - 2/5/2018 at 07:17 PM

quote:
quote:
If Wentz was playing I would like the Eagles chances , but I have a hard time believing Nick Foles can beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl .


. I just never expected Philadelphia to be so lucky as to find such a high level of character and talent. But it's legit. The Philadelphia Eagles are the gold standard in the NFL.

[Edited on 2/5/2018 by BoytonBrother]



Now just get the Eagle fan base on board with "high character".
With this SB win its just gonna feed the fire for them.


Sang - 2/5/2018 at 07:36 PM

Well, the football pools are over (actually they've been over for a while......).

Wish we would have had more participation....

Straight up:

1 Sangsters of the Midway 170 170-83
2 DanB 166 166-87
3 neb 151 151-102
4 HAWKS FAN 86 86-165
5 CFLFAN 83 83-168
6 The A 32 32-219

Obviously the bottom 3 dropped out early - but at least I won!

With the Spread:

1 Coot's On The Money Picks 141 141-104
2 Sang 132 132-113
3 neb 126 126-119
4 danb 116 116-128
5 go blue lee 115 115-131
6 HAWKS FAN 71 71-173
7 CFLFANSPREAD 60 60-184

Unfortunately OldCoot won ----- but at least I beat DanB and Neb in both....


Brendan - 2/5/2018 at 07:49 PM

quote:
quote:
quote:
If Wentz was playing I would like the Eagles chances , but I have a hard time believing Nick Foles can beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl .


. I just never expected Philadelphia to be so lucky as to find such a high level of character and talent. But it's legit. The Philadelphia Eagles are the gold standard in the NFL.

[Edited on 2/5/2018 by BoytonBrother]



Now just get the Eagle fan base on board with "high character".
With this SB win its just gonna feed the fire for them.


It's a fun myth, but it's just a myth...
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/are-eagles-fans-really-worst-fans-nfl -not-long-shot-ncna844316


Lee - 2/5/2018 at 09:41 PM

Sang, next year we need to have something riding on it. Then I would probably pay more attention. Bragging rights with several people I don't know just isn't quite the same.

Just a thought.


dimplesjbc - 2/5/2018 at 09:44 PM

quote:
quote:
If Wentz was playing I would like the Eagles chances , but I have a hard time believing Nick Foles can beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl .


And what do you say today?

I wish I could have enjoyed the game but I was sure the pats would find some cheap way to win it.


What do I have to say today , congratulation to the Eagles , great win , I certainly wasn't guaranteeing a Pats win just thought they would .

[Edited on 2/5/2018 by dimplesjbc]

[Edited on 2/5/2018 by dimplesjbc]


dimplesjbc - 2/5/2018 at 11:46 PM

The Eagles O line played great , and without Jason Peters , they dominated.


kevdab - 2/6/2018 at 10:34 AM

It's Pat's Patriots

Let's go PATS

How's that!!!!


Stephen - 2/6/2018 at 05:24 PM

Only thing that amazed me was how Pats rolled up 506 yards -- they were playing uphill the whole game I thought, but mainly, wow -- all you can do is say watta game Nick Foles & Phila -- he was zipping passes right where they had to be -- Pats D got chewed up throughout, & the bettah team won
thought it was an overthrow to, not a drop by, Brady -- thought it was more uncatchable than catchable, but little mattah anyway, he's still the best ever & watta game, Phila


piacere - 2/6/2018 at 07:05 PM

quote:
Where's Mark (Piacere)???? Hope all's well with him these days, although I'm glad my Birds took one from his beloved Pats!!

Hey Brendan
I'm good, thanks. Pretty much done here but I've been in lurk mode past two weeks since Philly won NFC waiting for you to show up. Was going to do my annual trash shtick (glad I didn't). Pats days are numbered, Garapollo trade was a killer. Anyway, hope all's well with you too and congrats my man, that was one great game.


Sang - 2/6/2018 at 07:28 PM

Looks like you and your girlfriend have been busy posting today.....

Nice of you to stop by.........


Lee - 2/8/2018 at 11:26 AM

quote:
Well, the football pools are over (actually they've been over for a while......).

Wish we would have had more participation....

Straight up:

1 Sangsters of the Midway 170 170-83
2 DanB 166 166-87
3 neb 151 151-102
4 HAWKS FAN 86 86-165
5 CFLFAN 83 83-168
6 The A 32 32-219

Obviously the bottom 3 dropped out early - but at least I won!

With the Spread:

1 Coot's On The Money Picks 141 141-104
2 Sang 132 132-113
3 neb 126 126-119
4 danb 116 116-128
5 go blue lee 115 115-131
6 HAWKS FAN 71 71-173
7 CFLFANSPREAD 60 60-184

Unfortunately OldCoot won ----- but at least I beat DanB and Neb in both....




No idea who CFL is but he sucks against the spread. And Hawks Fan isn't much better.


Brendan - 2/11/2018 at 09:25 PM

quote:
quote:
Where's Mark (Piacere)???? Hope all's well with him these days, although I'm glad my Birds took one from his beloved Pats!!

Hey Brendan
I'm good, thanks. Pretty much done here but I've been in lurk mode past two weeks since Philly won NFC waiting for you to show up. Was going to do my annual trash shtick (glad I didn't). Pats days are numbered, Garapollo trade was a killer. Anyway, hope all's well with you too and congrats my man, that was one great game.

Good to hear form you Mark. Keep on, keepin' on, my friend.


Sang - 2/12/2018 at 05:02 AM

Eh..... if the Bears ever start winning again I might enjoy football .......


jszfunk - 2/12/2018 at 11:36 AM


Lee - 2/13/2018 at 10:55 AM

quote:
Eh..... if the Bears ever start winning again I might enjoy football .......


So I guess you will never enjoy football.


Lee - 4/26/2018 at 08:46 PM

Countdown to the draft. Who will make the first bad pick?


Lee - 4/27/2018 at 08:06 PM

So tonight the Browns have three picks in the second round. If they screw this up...


Lee - 6/4/2018 at 11:57 PM

R.I.P. Dwight Clark. Only 61 years old. WAY too young.

I didn't know he had been sick.


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